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Nightmare Consumer Unit Change... Electrician Life
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@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Get 5% Discount across all consumer units and circuit breakers at www.consumerunitworld.co.uk using my discount code ART1S259

@ryanatkins3013 3 года назад

Not Bundy 10 then lol

@maggiejones7809 3 года назад

5% Discount .... really? Much prefer the Bundy 10 as per Ryans reply ... lol.

@schwarzenegger1983 3 года назад

So many times I've done a job thinking that part should take about 20 min, 3 hours later, wish I just cut a hole in the wall and filled it 😂

@wyndavies5044 3 года назад

Should have just moved the main switch to the left side of the board 😃

@obi_the_president 2 года назад

I have noticed they mostly have the main switch to the right. Is it standard in UK? In Sweden we always have it to the left as first switch

@wyndavies5044 2 года назад

@@obi_the_president different brands have different way of doing it. But you coild easily move stuff about if needed.

@scotty2hottyltd 2 года назад

Don’t think you can with this due to the live terminal being on the left on the DP isolator

@wyndavies5044 2 года назад

@@scotty2hottyltd does it actually matter, both terminals are rated to 100a.

@guymartin7757 3 года назад

I always tell a customer you can pay for an EICR or you can pay £65 per hour for fault finding if you don’t. I’m not on site to rectify your problems for free because your to tight to pay for an EICR beforehand.

@guymartin7757 3 года назад

Ellis The DJ then do the EICR & you will have the ability to see what work is required & the cost involved to rectify any faults. My point is if you don’t want to pay for a test and you have been warned of the cost fault finding. Then you choose to go ahead & take punt that all will be good, then on your head be it. Don’t for a second think I’m going to suffer the cost of your short sightedness.

@asef698 3 года назад

Spot on pal

@guymartin7757 3 года назад

Ellis The DJ you seem to be missing the point. Your budget is your problem not mine ,we don’t work for free. If your new ccu has half it’s circuits isolated because they have faults in them what then!. Are you expecting someone to spend hours free of charge sorting out your dodgy diy wiring. Pay for an EICR or suffer the consequences of the cost implications that a faulty installation will incur. We are businesses not charity for the tight of fist or short of sight.

@paulcockcroft8920 3 года назад

When an EICR is requested, which is now my bread and butter lately because of the new landlord legislation introduced, I will always check if the CU has full RCD protection and has a non-combustible enclosure. Good selling points. Also check smoke/heat alarms for compliance/sell by date. Will always offer to sort these things out first before doing the EICR to prevent having to charge the customer twice for doing the testing

@davidb3537 3 года назад

@Ellis The DJ The installation requires testing and inspecting at some point during this work so it makes sense to carryout prior to riping everything out as Jordan has bravely demonstrated.

@pauljones914 3 года назад

I'm not an Electrician but I can see you have put the time and effort into this job. Well done.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks

@stephenpower9572 3 года назад

Well done Jordan for showing when it doesn’t go to plan. I feel your pain. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing your experience.

@shinyslowbro1612 3 года назад

Great video! Massive respect for sticking with it and trying to get to the best solution for the customer with the tails rather than just telling them it couldn't be done not a lot of electricians would have.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks 😊

@wigwamer 3 года назад

That feeling you get when you pull the old board to bits then think why did i say I'd do the job

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

wigwamer 😂

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

That's why by regulation you always 100 % inspect and test installation first, only a fool goes in blind(unless you have quoted their inheritance)

@garethblake3941 3 года назад

Hi, been there, l know not good but at least you have the satisfaction of leaving the installation in a safe condition. Keep up the good work and stay safe.

@stuartandrews4344 3 года назад

If you have sds plus drill with hammer only, then use a mortar rake to cut out a brick to give access to the cavity,sometimes it is the easiest & only way to pull awkward tails through,seen them snagged on wall tie,then it's a easy job to replace brick afterwards.

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

BS7671 no cables to be run down the cavity of a building

@paulhayles6947 3 года назад

Hi Jordan, a very quick test I always do before I change a board is an earth leakage test on the tails with the Amcal tester. If the reading is off the scale I don’t take on the job as you don’t know what you’re getting into. I’m aware it’s not a foolproof method but it’s cut my headaches down massively. Also to do an EICR before a fuseboard change is a good idea but in my opinion I don’t know how many customers will be prepared to pay for it.

@MrSJT 3 года назад

We should at least do a risk assessment the on cert covers board change only and on comments recommend an EICR for the rest of the installation

@mirnelzahirovic782 3 года назад

I felt foryouon this one, definitely know how this feels. I had a few late ones doing CU changes myself. RESPECT for not giving up. Good work

@TeamSimpsonRacing 3 года назад

I felt your pain watching this video! I've also learnt the hard way doing board changes and this is why I do it in two stages which is explained clearly to the customer. Doing it this way has saved me tons and tons of hassle.

@mikekirwin3720 3 года назад

Hi Jordan, just read the huge amount of comments saying all the different options that you should have done, however, your no.1 priority was to please the customer (regarding the tails) and for that I salute you. Most would of given up, but you continued with this in mind. A truly helpful channel for which I enjoy your delivery and content. As for the main switch, it's easy to criticise afterwards, however, you solved the problem on the day and we are ALL learning something new, irrespective of years on the tools.

@Daniells1982 3 года назад

To be fair, you've done the right thing with the tails. Tails through a cavity these days with the potential of existing thermal insulation or thermal insulation being added later is always a concern. Turned out a good job and you're a trooper hanging back to sort the fault finding etc.

@simonc772 3 года назад

well done that man! Testing the electrician to the max, I agreed about doing an EICR first before going into the board change, nowadays you can't get away with just changing a fuse board, things have moved on..

@fearghalwade8925 3 года назад

Aw Jordan, we all get those days, at least you made the effort and made sure it was done right, fair play! These are the days that remind you how lucky you are on the days things actually go to plan! Keep up the good work!

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

So true! Thanks

@wayneroddis-clarke7659 3 года назад

I did similar once with the tails and main switch, from then on I always picked a board that had the switch on what ever side it was on the existing board. But then always carried Tri rated cables and cord end so i could switch it around if needed. most guys these days don't use the labels that come with the boards anyway. most print there own. so no really issue. It was a good effort tho. Defo Eicr before a board change tho. The problem is you try to be competitive with the price and do an Eicr first. But Mr cheap and cheerful from the Pub comes in under cuts you and you lose out. Then the works done, not tested no cert. And all because its down to price and not the standard of the work.

@JasonJones-ep7xs 3 года назад

Good lesson learned. I’m at the start of my training and having material like this to watch is brilliant and provides helpful advice.

@ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад

I really felt for you Jordan... An EICR beforehand is definitely the way to go from now on mate.

@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 3 года назад

An eicr wouldnt of established that he couldnt pull new tails in

@ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад

@@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 I was more thinking about the high end to end resding on the ring and the short circuit fault on the lighting circuit to name a few.

@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 3 года назад

Ashman Electrical Services An eicr isnt needed before a board change in my opinion,even if he did an eicr then he would of put the high end to end in his report so still would have to rectify it at board change stage !! It was the 4 hours on the tails that killed the job

@neil6438 3 года назад

No an experienced electrician would tell you that.

@MathewLiamHowarth 3 года назад

What was the IR tester you were using Jordan?

@jonathanstephens7804 3 года назад

well done Jordon these jobs crop up and test you from time to time! EICR 1st is always a great step but doesn't always work out, tidy job mate

@benhayes5096 3 года назад

M8, what a day that was! I've had a few days like that myself. Keep trying to explain to my boss that sometimes things don't always go to plan

@Grumpyowd2hat 3 года назад

And thats why sparks are "King Of Trades" 1st in last out and get the most sh*t. Love the vids. a+++++

@tcpnetworks 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure plumbers get the most shit...

@thomasphipps5133 3 года назад

Another top video.. Nice to see you sharing the issue with eicr before a board change.. I keep saying the same thing.. Absolute nightmare board changes 👍

@jmohammad3762 3 года назад

Good job Jordon. I know the feeling of taking down an old consumer and then getting stuck when circuits start to trip. Agree with your comments always good to do EICR before hand to determine faults. Anyway keep up the good workmanship. 👍👍👍

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks!

@stevejudd7777 3 года назад

Nice Job. I used to always continue the trunking to the floor, makes it nicer on the eye and over time blends in.

@FunLoadGamer 3 года назад

Unlucky mate, just one of those days unfortunately, but you dug deep and pulled through. Good job 👍🏻

@Mecelectonics 3 года назад

I completely felt in your late working ours. My situation yesterday was also the same. I changed old mcb board and it looked like an easy job. Customer is about to get new meter box, solar panels etc. So the board upgrade was neccessary. I only got problem after problem finally finished the job on Sunday 2:00 AM because it was to far to drive on another day plus the custumer wpuld be left without electricity for whole sunday. I was 18 hours on my feet on this job but the end effect was perfect. Good job !

@iancarbin567 3 года назад

Good effort mate, hope the customer appreciated your extra diligence

@richardsheppard5881 3 года назад

Great thanks. I think your excellent and the videos are great. Please keep them coming

@MrKnatterton 3 года назад

when i see your videos i am glad that i live in germany with a 3 phase system and new distribution according to current standard. great videos, thanks for that!

@carlrobson5745 3 года назад

Good upload Sharing the worst outcome of a job that would normally be straightforward lesson learnt for sure there.

@richardwhitear1570 3 года назад

Cracking video, and nice to see you tried to accommodate the clients needs, rather than going for the easier option.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks!

@amarcy5369 3 года назад

Hi Jordan well done , it’s never an easy task changing the meter tails. So you’re use of trunking was the best way to go. Pulling and tugging on cables can cause damage to them which can’t be seen inside the cavity . Hind sight is a wonderful thing, anyone watching this video who is an electrical contractor will have spent time in a similar fashion. The main thing is you succeeded, and got the supply back on . There’s plenty of so-called electricians that come 5 would have said , sorry mate I’m off now see you tomorrow. 😂 Best wishes from Mike in the U.K. 👍

@moonshinepz 3 года назад

Hide it in the ceiling 👍 yesssssss. I am learning so much from these videos. I'm not an electrician but I'll be able to spot a half arsed job when I hire one now. Thank you! Also starting to appreciate the skill in the trade a lot more.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Wow thanks glad you're enjoying the vids!

@stuzero17 3 года назад

Great work I so wish that I had a boss like you. I was expected to change a 14 way board upgrade the bonding test everything and fix all the faults all by myself in 8 hours. No time for breaks sometimes working 14 hours with one half hour break. No wonder I had a break down from stress related work .

@ratchriat1716 3 года назад

that's the trouble when you the job you never know how will take you over all good work fantastic finish.

@duncangray6786 3 года назад

it's a small point, but I'm glad you installed a consumer unit where the cover flap opens upwards; as soon as I saw the original unit, I had visions of the door slamming and breaking the cover because it swung down into the arc of the door

@ianbird6997 3 года назад

Job well done mate always the way, nice and safe now 😃👍

@leeedwards3783 3 года назад

Shame man. I feel for you. I am a plumber and have been in this situation plenty of times. Great videos. Keep em coming

@petertallowin6406 3 года назад

Ahh the law of the sod.... Good job for sticking it out dude. Probably a good thing the tails wouldn't pull through, not sure they are allowed to flap about in the cavity. :) I'm sure I read somewhere about flappy cables in cavity walls. I could be wrong. Stirling effort Jordan.

@tanveerkhan9221 3 года назад

Nice job I always like to use bootlace ferrules on all my consumer units adds a bit of glamour LOL

@robinmyman 3 года назад

You sorted it Jordan...good man! 👍

@JohnOfChernarus 2 года назад

You are a perfectionist and thats rare these days in trades, i would happily pay over the odds to have someone who wont cut corners, nice work!

@supersparks9466 3 года назад

Nice job at the end after all that hassle, I get pissed off if Im on-site after 3

@brianwood5220 3 года назад

This used to happen to me too. You never know what you're going to come across. Great work though Jordan 👍

@giuseppe9145 10 месяцев назад

Great job well done..

@trainsinkansas576 3 года назад

I hate it when a plan doesn't come together. It is what it is. Been there done that. Way to hang in there. Nice job.

@philipshaw8180 3 года назад

well done you are an unsung heroe!! , and ive just subscribed so have a good rest and I will see you on the next one

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks!

@derekhealey4743 Год назад

Well done 👏 been on a few jobs like that myself because I never like to be beaten, keep up the good work you do, to many tradesmen have no pride in their work.

@riopropertiesbg 3 года назад

A good honest review.

@ggbalze06 3 года назад

On the bright side the spark who does the condenser is going to love that trunking

@johnspallen3132 2 года назад

Tidy spark pure art from artisan team again 👏

@NapierNimbus 3 года назад

Deffo agree, do full test first, never know who has been messing, better to find any issues first so forewarned. Wonder if inner wall either chopped out to install the tails then made good or completed after tails were installed. Nice neat finish.

@andyhill242 3 года назад

A mare of the night indeed, it always causes me severe anxiety when things overrun!

@rouman7 3 года назад

It’s why you get work and customers call u back , most would tell them you need a eicr first at cost ..but you have gone ahead. Hoping it would be ok and it has not been but you showed the customer that whatever the problem you can solve it . And I bet he was happy and he will use you again I learned that lesson years ago sometimes you have to give a little to gain a lot ...

@johnfenlon458 3 года назад

Great job You did it and replaced the new panel. Very good professional! You found the ceiling fault. it will always be the last fitting when you find the fault. Time you go home before you get a McDonalds. Very funny BIG Thumb up! Cheer!

@jasonelson7238 3 года назад

Couldn't see the surprise on your face with that mask when you took the cover off and seen the neat job but I senced it😂😂

@garrygriffithselectricalse843 3 года назад

Definitely agree. I won't replace a fuse board unless EICR done first 👍

@johnwaby4321 3 года назад

Nice work .. we all get jobs like that . Nicely sorted .

@dixon9 3 года назад

Good video as usual. I'd have been tempted to go out and get a CU with the isolator on the left-hand-side...

@nickcollins7568 3 года назад

Couldn't one just slide the main switch to the other end of the din rail so the existing tails would reach and fit the breakers from the other end

@Fountainwell49man 3 года назад

Live would then be on the wrong side for the bus bar connection.

@grahamlush7140 3 года назад

I’m so glad you use Hager boards and MCB’s etc, great gear! 👍Some of the muck that other lads use on the other You tube vids amaze me! No wonder they get them for free! Great videos keep it up.

@rhysbarber6750 3 года назад

What other chaps that

@grahamlush7140 3 года назад

Rhys Barber have a look on You tube, some shite boards being used, I’ll say no more. You won’t have to look far.

@kingfisherengineers8837 3 года назад

Did you stop for lunch? Those jobs are my worst nightmare too. I have used a arbasaw to cut a brick out to access the wall cavity. Total ballache. How come you weren't spitting with fury by the end of that and still filming! Unbelievable patience.

@callumburgess3177 3 года назад

A quick continuity test between CPC and neutral will quickly identify if there is going to be a problem when introducing an RCD to the circuit. Also, MK for main switches on the left and pretty much everything else for main switch on the right. It's not just the tails you need to extent but also the CPC's and neutrals if they don't have much slack.

@charliechimples 3 года назад

Hindsight is a wonderful thing! Nightmare. Thanks for sharing Jordan. 🐵

@garethg2501 3 года назад

I have a very similar board change to do soon, the tails take a similar route. I was thinking when spec'ing it up its going to be a problem getting new tails in, I have no idea how to get around it. Didn't think we were allowed to enter the outside supply boxes from any other angle than the right hand side? Do the Hager boards still not have overcurrent protection for the SPD?

@sparkey1958 3 года назад

if the mainswitch can not be moved to the left , some can some cant...i used to crimp on extra length using 25mm through crimps and heatshrink them...if asked to do a consumer unit change, i always used to, when going to have a look for the estimate, shove my megger on the old one, to make sure no Lto E and Nto E faults...as otherwise you can be there for double the time tracing faults...i used to price for the board change only, then hourly rate for tracing faults....otherwise you can be well out of pocket.

@anthonybragg 3 года назад

Jordan, You could have moved the SPD & main switch to the left the only problem is the length of the neutral to the main bar from the load side of the main switch ( which Hager sells separately), I don't know how flexible the links are compared to the flexible tails you had as you could if practicable used a bit of that if pushed. Sometimes it is best to purse and rethink. IAs Hager is your go-to consumer unit It might be worth a chat with them as this predicament will come upon another C.U. change

@leeburnside735 3 года назад

defo EICR every time before board change or walk away from it you just never know !! good effort on toughing it out.

@kevinpoore5626 3 года назад

I know your pain on that I do a lot of repose with minimum damage in really old antique houses in the US sometimes you just got to cut and then people scream and run easy to complain but either way Keep On Keepin On lol :-) :-) :-(

@ahmadhafiz8595 3 года назад

Good job!!

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks

@glennrogers6650 3 года назад

A bad day. Unfortunately there are elements of the unknown with some jobs. But you over come them, well done sir.

@maydayelectricalsolutionsl7601 3 года назад

good job Jordan, in the world before multi tools it could have been more of a pain

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

So true

@davidb3537 3 года назад

EICR prior to carrying out CU change is a must, as you've just proved. Apart from highlighting the faults and non- conformities it would have given you more time to assess the installation and work out a solution for the new tails install. As I'm sure we all know, try to cut corners and at some point it will bite you!! Well done for showing the necessity of prior planning a lesson for us all👍

@dextergodfrey7086 3 года назад

Literally had the same nightmare today. Unfortunately had to extend all the circuits using two adaptable boxes. Only one circuit tripping the rcd.....However I did carryout an EICR before hand? 10AM till 8pm....on a Saturday. Few beers!!!!

@marcwilliams3921 3 года назад

Jordan what a nightmare of a job, hate jobs like that, my head would start going. Hope u had a nice beer after when u got home

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Yeah I had McDonalds on the way home and a whiskey before bed! 👌

@yourrightimsooosorry884 3 года назад

@Ellis The DJ no no no he had whiskey ¡

@patrickchambers5999 3 года назад

Funny how the problem is always found at the last place you check.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Yep 🤦‍♂️

@patrickchambers5999 3 года назад

R.D. That's why you stop, you found it! Therefore the problem is always found at the last place you look.

@EMEL-hr4ut 3 года назад

I think sods law in this context means that it is the last conceivable or most difficult place you could have looked is where you find the fault (after having tried the easier and more obvious places first)

@andrekidd6871 3 года назад

I would have got a cu with the tails on the same side as original one ? Maybe something to think about in the future ? Not feeling the conduit ,sorry

@PJB71 3 года назад

What a nightmare, I’ve always done an EICR prior to a board change. It can save you a load of grief.👍🏼

@paul65ad 3 года назад

Thru crimp tails and cover with heat shrink. Always check continuity n-e on the lighting as that's a like place for faults stopping RCBO's from setting.

@johndufton9686 3 года назад

Always do EICR before board change that way you know problems like tails on wrong side. How about moving main switch to the left?

@imtrue2132 3 года назад

What about extending the tails and potty the connection and be done with it? That way you would avoid the need of visible trunking.

@havocgeneral 3 года назад

Great job getting it sorted. Not sure if it’s happened before but what would be the plan if you’re doing a consumer unit change on an occupied property and you cannot complete it the same day? Would you have to leave it without any power? I assume you do everything to avoid that situation but there must be times when it happens.

@e5Group 3 года назад

SPDs law something crops up into what could and should be a relatively nice job. Don’t miss staying in someone’s house till 10pm having to sort issues I didn’t cause. Great video J.

@williamsdaduk 3 года назад

I had this trying to run tails to a new recessed meter box i ended up taking out a couple of external bricks using an sds and mortar rake and found the blockage was a wall tie with a load of crap on top.

@simondeeley9413 3 года назад

Do the house test first before changing the board. If you have issues you can then come back another day . I also brought my boards to suit the position of the main tails. Pre site surveys are Essential.

@snakah 3 года назад

Good Job

@louiesalter7138 3 года назад

Haha you learnt a valuable lesson there ⚡️👍

@djmattc1978 3 года назад

Hi Jordan, which tool bag do you recommend? Your ToolBox playlist on your other channel says the video is private.

@cjkokay 3 года назад

Did you try dropped to pulling one by one so they were inline instead of as a group.

@nigellewis4686 3 года назад

Could you have used 25mm swa and routed the cable out side the property i have some 8 m i will never use

@Jay369 3 года назад

Could you not put the SPD and main isolator for the board on the left? Or is it a reg that it has to be on the right?

@alexZWL 3 года назад

Knowing our "meterkast" metercloset in the Netherlands I am shocked every time a UK consumer unit is randomly found in the house wherever the installer thought it looked nice. Distance from the front door Measurements Water on the bottom Gas in the middle Electric on top

@marijn100 3 года назад

The same thing I was thinking! Don't forget Coax, Telephone and Fiber in newer houses. Older houses have them on a random place in the living room. Also, the use of PVC-pipes makes changing wires a lot easier.

@nicholaslott1992 3 года назад

great video

@martinwragg8246 3 года назад

Would pulling the new cable in from the other end have been easier?

@vjaceslavprants6258 Год назад

Always useful to check the side of the mains switch, before buying a consumer unit. Wouldnt need to run new tails at all then.

@rhysbarber6750 3 года назад

I’m sure you tried your best, I think sometimes the customer wants it one way and therefore your brain goes into being narrow minded without realising, hence cutting the ceiling out to try and get the cables through. Was there the option there for you to mount the trunking or conduit externally and then straight down into the meter box?

@jonroswell 3 года назад

Jordan great vid shame you could have the chat we all had Take care dude and keep practising.

@artisanelectrics 3 года назад

Thanks!

@jordonrichardson7608 3 года назад

Great work mate, just a quick question I’m booked in for my testing 2391-52 in January, and I’ve always been told on the test sheets you should never put down the main fuse rating unless you can actually confirm the fuse rating is actually what is says on the case because someone could of either down rated the fuse or even up- rated it, so do you put limitation or just pull the fuse to see ?