NIK NOCTURNAL: Reddit haters, Sleep Token, the future of metal & more (Punk Rock MBA Podcast)

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Nik Nocturnal joins to talk about Sleep Token, Reddit haters, his role in popularizing bands like Lorna Shore and Electric Callboy, the deathcore scene, reaction channels and more. Nik Nocturnal interview.
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00:00:00 - Being metal's biggest influencer
00:02:41 - The Power of Viral Content on Social Media Platforms
00:08:04 - The Saturation of Reacting to Music and Changing the Mindset of Providing Value
00:10:52 - The Pressure to be the First and Building a Loyal Audience
00:13:30 - Balancing Organic Content and Sponsorship Demands
00:16:03 - Finding Value and Fulfillment in RU-vid Content Creation
00:18:37 - Viral Content and the Illusion of Numbers
00:21:22 - The Power of Short Form Content in Building a Fan Base
00:23:54 - Increasing Industry Cred Through Monthly Listeners
00:26:19 - Bands' Resistance to Creating Content
00:28:50 - Short Form Content and Providing Value
00:31:38 - The Importance of Contrast in Metal Music
00:34:17 - The fusion of genres in metal and the importance of bands that push boundaries
00:37:06 - The Combination of Metal and Alternative Music Cultures
00:39:46 - Making Anything Metal: Inspiration and Music Theory
00:42:25 - Having Fun and Providing Value in Music Reaction Videos
00:44:53 - The dangers of over-saturating the Deathcore scene
00:47:33 - The Importance of Pushing Boundaries in Deathcore and Metalcore
00:50:10 - The Evolution of Modern Metal and Discussing Boundaries as a Public Figure
00:52:50 - Separating Personal Life from RU-vid and Escapism
00:55:31 - Balancing Personal Struggles with Entertaining Viewers
00:58:12 - Navigating Vulnerability and Parasocial Relationships in Content Creation
01:00:45 - Setting Boundaries with Fans as a RU-vidr or Musician

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11 июл 2024

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@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

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@NikNocturnal Год назад

Thanks for having me dude! Was a pleasure chatting

@chernobylcoleslaw6698 Год назад

You're welcome, come back anytime.

@HealthyGuitarPlayer Год назад

Coleslaw is a great host

@joeschmoe5009 Год назад

I see staalrs is back as of today! They just uploaded 2 new songs

@Dab_Marino Год назад

Algorithm going crazy 4 ya. Dope AF channel man

@zsnowbarger Год назад

As an aging emo/core kid, living vicariously through watching Nik over the years is so much fun. Thanks for the enjoyment of music you provide bro.

@Hunac-Ceel Год назад

So nice to see mum and dad getting along ❤

@twitchypaper1391 Год назад

Which is which tho

@hypeman133 Год назад

Finn is clearly the mum

@eternallife9786 Год назад

@@hypeman133 I don't know, I see Nik more as the cool mom

@bloodymothcurse Год назад

I don’t believe this actually happened, this is most definitley AI

@kevinsmith7-7-7 Год назад

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Bleep boop

@Noah-lj4rz Год назад

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA 😊😊😊

@EnvisionedBlindness Год назад

Nik doesn’t talk to other humans. This is 100% a deep fake

@DoiInthanon1897 Год назад

*cyborg sounds incoming*

@KeyOfGeebz Год назад

Every content creator, no matter be it in music or not, should watch this. great thoughts on Sleep Token!! so well done, guys.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Much appreciated! 🙏

@Aleblood Год назад

GEEBZ! Good to see you here!

@KeyOfGeebz Год назад

@@Aleblood AWWWRIGHT!!

@Nestorglass Год назад

Ofc I watch a podcast of two of my favorite creators in the scene and they're already starting with feet.

@D_McGeezacks Год назад

As expected XD

@Nestorglass Год назад

@@D_McGeezacks the core scene showcasing their degeneracy once again

@Ultravioleth Год назад

7:55

@tman8713 Год назад

and if course it was finn who initiated it lmao

@oopsydaizi3s824 Год назад

Shout out Roanoke gaming

@mattsolegod Год назад

Nik is the man. Was amazing to work with him after being a fan of his for years. 🔥

@Dylan-ym2fc 9 месяцев назад

Nik is the reason I listen to Spiritbox, Lorna Shore, Sleep Token, Ice Nine Kills and Electric Callboy. All of those bands are on my list to go and see when they tour nearby and there's very little chance I'd have discovered them without Nik's reactions. Such a great creator who is helping to push metal to a wider audience 🤘

@jtomi003 Год назад

Seeing Nik's take on Knocked Loose at Coachella made me instantly think "this is a Finn take." Loving the interaction between creators, and cant wait the future of hardcore and metal (read music) with both of you breaking things down so the rest of us metalheads (read closed minded idiots) can understand.

@bolillo5013 Год назад

Same here lol

@batman-sr2px Год назад

ah yes those who actually like metal and don't put much value on radio play and playing coachella are idiots.

@hypeman133 Год назад

I dont know how many bands this random 29 yo dude from Spain like me has discovered thanks to both of you ❤

@brewsaughmighty7024 Год назад

This is golden. Two of my favorite music creators in one vid. Super solid.

@IWearShaqs Год назад

Finn knows Nic is deathly allergic to sunlight. That's why he'd never ask him to do the interview in person. Good job looking out for your boy Finn!

@metalshark41 Год назад

Haha! It definitely has to be the eyes 😆

@taylorlo4542 Год назад

@@metalshark41 That Emma Chamberlin eyeshadow... or poor guy needs to get some sleep.

@jovialpunch Год назад

How does Nik with his aversion to sunlight look more tanned than Finn then 🤣🤣

@loganpriest6029 Год назад

Only time he goes out in the sun is when he's channeling his inner crab chakra.

@taylorlo4542 Год назад

@@loganpriest6029 There's only so many colored rooms and abandoned warehouses to djent in. Might as well bring back the grassy fields like it's 2010!

@gkezele Год назад

2 of my 4 favorite music youtubers! (shoutout to Jared Dines and Stevie T as well) Thanks for having Nik on Finn!

@UToobSteak Год назад

Nik is like having a cool younger brother, who's better at guitar than I'll ever be. Finn is like my slightly younger brother, who's still better at guitar than me.

@__zzz___ Год назад

nik introduced so many bands to me, i owe him half my current music taste lol

@lout9231 Год назад

the cross over we didn't deserve. Legends.

@psychobetha Год назад

Finn and Nik together again? 😃 this is awesome, thank you! edited to add: i really appreciate the discussion about maintaining your privacy while being a public figure. maybe it’s just my age (being firmly genX) but we used to have to seek out magazines and mtv and shit to learn anything about people in the public sphere. now everything is so instant and pervasive that people expect you to share everything, and that’s not healthy or safe for y’all. i choose to not seek out the minutia, and i’m 100% okay with y’all not sharing shit that should be for you and yours alone. if people want to share, ok then. but there shouldn’t be pressure to do so. stalkers and haters exist and your mental health is important. i’d rather have my favorite youtubers safe and happy 🤷🏼‍♀️

@Quicklost182 Год назад

Timing couldn’t be more perfect Finn. Got a 2 hour ride for work. 😭😭😭 Thank you bud!

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Thank you for watching!

@ThatOGOne Год назад

Really the only 2 content creators I pay any attention to in the punk/metal world so this is awesome

@GregNoblin Год назад

Hey, thanks guys. How to say this without sounding like a dbag, I don't think it's possible... I've been a gallery represented fine artist for just over 13 years. I've always been interested in the creative process in creators of any kind. I love hearing the different approaches people in differing mediums have. It was fascinating hearing that fine line between being relevant, as creating and original while balancing keeping the lights on and bills paid. I think the coolest part is even with the stress, the self created deadlines, the work load, the successes and failures, the struggle of every aspect of everything in being a creator, you're still compelled to create and find a way to continue creating. It's hard for me to really express in words, but it was awesome hearing and connecting on a professional level in an odd way.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Thanks man I appreciate that!

@dastardlygonzo Год назад

Love Nik. He helped me get excited about metal again.

@larchiek6878 Год назад

I love Nik!! His guitar content has been so helpful over the years for me and so many others!

@fedmcglowie7240 Год назад

@40:55 hit the nail on the head. You can feed any genre through the medium of metal once you have a good enough grasp of what the real essence of that particular genre is.

@UsefulIdiot77 Год назад

You both are my favorite music related creators this is sick!

@jjharmon8075 Год назад

I have learned lot from Nik Nocturnal and I have been with his channel for a while. I really love watching him .

@SternoCleidoMastoid666 Год назад

Hell yea. My two favorite RU-vidrs coming together ! Finn you rock and Nik you kick ass too this is a great collab that I’ve been waiting for a long time! Keep it up boys 🤘🏼😜🤘🏼

@treewisemenllc7281 Год назад

Two of my favorite creators in the same video, hell yeah brother!!

@oldpunker885 Год назад

This is amazing. Two of my fave music content creators. Finn youve gotten some great guests lately.

@edshanks2189 Год назад

Love both of you guys! Great chat!

@jrayne93 Год назад

One of my favorite podcasts. Love both of yall. Dont stop being you. Much love

@rebekahcarter8120 Год назад

I think y'all made some great points about having fun while still having an emotional connection. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. I wish more metalheads would realize that. "A good song is a good song. The genre is just the coat of paint you put on it." So, so true!!

@davida1310 Год назад

Been watching Nik for awhile and have recently started binge watching your videos so was nice to see a crossover.

@bobbydrex5268 Год назад

Can confirm for myself at least that Nik's reaction video to Hypa Hypa got me into Electric Callboy. Never heard of them before and now I love em.

@theangelbelow88 Год назад

Great podcast, love Nik, such a chill and down to earth guy

@katherinej51679 Год назад

I think I’ve been watching Nik around a year (I may be way off but it hasn’t been a super long time) and I JUST found out he played guitar a few days ago.

@DoNotLookDown Год назад

I've absolutely heard a ton of new music from reaction channels and Mr. Nocturnal is one of the goats.

@KevinSheldrick Год назад

I didn’t even get passed the ad before I liked the video lol I watch both of you guys daily. Love the content! Always entertaining….PS “hypa hypa you’re pretty and I like ya”

@whitepony7864 Год назад

love the harmony of the shirts colours and the backgrounds

@Luka_Griffin 9 месяцев назад

This interview has so much great advice on content and music creation. Thank you Finn and Nik!

@Tempo1337 Год назад

I was hesitant to check out Nik for a long time because I assumed/was afraid that he was just another Metal Bro elitist dickhead. There are a LOT of those guys (it's always guys) on RU-vid and just couldn't bear another one. Then I took the plunge and delightfully discovered that he's just a chill, positive dude who just likes good shit and doesn't feel the need to dump on stuff, metal or not. Love Nik.

@bazamere Год назад

Two of my favorite youtube music content creators in the same podcast ❤ though I will admit I only just came across Nik recently which is weird. I wonder if the reaction channel thing is actually going to make its own genre of metal. Ive noticed the same bands and songs getting reacted to over and over. Also as a consumer of this sort of content Im 100% guilty of also using it as a sort of "friend simulator" lol but I dont have any expectations of reciprocation, mostly I started commenting on youtube videos because I heard comments help a channels algorithm and now its just where I come to pretend I can actually socialize 😂.

@aenema133 Год назад

My two favorite music RU-vidrs having a discussion about music. I can die happy.

@Mass-produced Год назад

Two of my favorites 😍

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Shoutout to Norwood

@Konfide4043 Год назад

These guys are definetely sisters.

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

💅🏼

@Konfide4043 Год назад

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA damn right I'll take sparkles plz

@anoxia999 Год назад

I’m a day old subscriber to your channel, your video which mentions Burzum was recommended by the algo and it is probably because I was talking s**t about Burzum this very week😂The comments on your channel are just as gold, you seem to have as awesome followers as content. Even if people don’t always agree, it seems you have genuine, earnest and authentic conversations which generates likewise comments. And anyway with social media content, agreement is far less valuable than understanding. Who cares if someone agrees or disagrees in such a context lol what would be the point of that unless you hop online to stroke some wounded ego. Some people never realize this, like, ok-someone agrees with you online…now what…it’s so inconsequential, unfulfilling, scratches a superficial surface of signaling polite niceties, and lacking impact. Most people don’t even understand what they agree with😂I appreciate your contributions to the interwebs space, sir. It’s nice to see two creators I appreciate conversing.

@F2t0ny Год назад

I started watching his content recently and checked to see if you had done a podcast with him and BAM here it is.

@tyschoneman1389 Год назад

Two great gentlemen. 🎉

@sillysiji5257 Год назад

Definitely agree with Nik in regards to Sleep Token. Sleep Token does the diversity of music like the funk or electronic styles with purpose and not for Irony. Whereas other bands failed due to doing these things not for musical purpose but, out of sarcasm or irony.

@kollinrose Год назад

Nik noc's how to metalcore, deathcore etc. Are amazing 👏 🔥🤘

@DannySlept Год назад

i'm graceful with nik that guy make me like metal sm!

@jsan2548 Год назад

Great interview as always.

@ghost_to_a_ghost Год назад

Unexpected and super rad interview 😎👍

@pologashima Год назад

best crossover ever

@F2t0ny Год назад

Nik makes metal fun

@CharlieViking95 Год назад

What a collab!

@aimeeaztec4601 Год назад

Great interview thanks Finn - have loved nik for ages and he’s such an articulate cool guy! Top stuff!

@brandonabiggs 6 месяцев назад

Two of the best streamin dudes on teh interwebz in one vid? Ferkyeeeerrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤘🤘

@ryanrowe1975 Год назад

Nik is a legend!

@adambenjamin2692 Год назад

I really appreciate how Nik is focusing on turning views & number into revenue. However, I think he undervalued it a bit - those "numbers" he gets (follower/subscribers/views for algo) from short-form viral content all translate into more streams, merch buys, and other avenues. If you bridge those two things, THAT IS THE WAY.

@jc91797 Год назад

my two fav metal content creators

@coreyw5981 Год назад

Haha i love how finn throws in "sleep token" in the title out of everything they talk about. I cant even find it in the time stamps. Trying to get the extra views😂 im glad youre starting to see how big theyre getting since you had your doubts even early this year Found it though and i love what you guys had to say about them

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

Its about 25% of the way into the podcast I think. The timestamps are autogenerated

@CaseyHayesVocals Год назад

Nik on prmba? Hell yeah brother

@leisenlol3091 Год назад

My two favorite channels in one video, thought it would never happen to be honest

@tjh5716 Год назад

The irony of the discussion of monitization. I have never watched a RU-vid video with more ads than this one. Damn.

@adamstelzer4436 Год назад

Now only if Alex Hefner was here we would complete the trinity.

@caffeinatedinsanity2324 Год назад

Shouldn't it be Jared Dines instead?

@Konfide4043 Год назад

I'd rather have Alex's dad Hugh on

@roflc0re Год назад

Don't forget A&P-react aswell

@CaseyHayesVocals Год назад

If we're talking metal commentary RU-vidrs, Jared dines or jarrod alonge seem appropriate though both aren't very active lately

@JT-ne8du Год назад

Hefner sucks. Brings less than nothing to the table

@Sirriffsalot Год назад

Nik is awesome!

@orry.420 Год назад

Nik and fin. 😭🙏 Thank you lord

@maximedube-limon5632 Год назад

My two men!! Niiice that was hard metal cool!

@hishamhilal8332 Год назад

Finally this combo

@coltennial9513 Год назад

Finn if you lean just a bit more forward you can smell the cologne Nik wears on the back of his neck.

@tricksonafixed Год назад

It would be awesome to see Scott Carstairs get an interview. I know his band isn’t the talk of the town but he is such an underrated artist.

@KageyVision Год назад

This was a really cool interview. As a creator, you have both made me think a little bit more about creating RU-vid shorts too 🤟🏾

@MrTJeffords Год назад

This is the most color I have ever seen in Nik's face

@stzsurge2250 Год назад

49:29 I see stars are actually coming back this year lmao

@_tavomaciel Год назад

Wait... For real?

@robur1981 Год назад

My two favourites in on video.

@xezmakorewarriah Год назад

nik is so sunburnt his skin tone almost blends with his hoodie lmao

@thermalxx99 Год назад

2 of my favs

@mjothman Год назад

Nik's an absolute genius

@theredpanda522 Год назад

RU-vidrs can be musicians the drummer for counterparts Kyle Brownlee made rock band drum videos back in the day

@Cr0wsMurd3r 7 месяцев назад

Dammit Finn... I never noticed that you blink alot, now I am totally gonna think about that all the damn time 🤣

@sasquanchsmoove3685 Год назад

As an artist on Spotify, I feel it when he said he would make a penny per billion views on there.

@jasonconklin6702 Год назад

Good collab! Fuck the haters! Ya'll Rock!

@FlyForAWhiteTy Год назад

Finn we can get you a keyboard to play along to reactions with

@daviduliasz2437 Год назад

Greatest collab in metal history

@MacPNW Год назад

Awe, you coordinated outfits

@chrisnorman1902 Год назад

Both in pink! Cute!

@Seven7Pain1 Год назад

Two Biggest Posers in metal and punk , im #3 😂 love both your channels but couldnt pass up chance to say that 🤙🤘🏼

@fredbergeron2193 Год назад

Thats what i like with the Alt scene is loving each other not like the metal scene

@Roguenjosh Год назад

good dudes

@Remorse9.9.91 Год назад

Man theres so much Finn could learn from Nik on how to be likeable 😆

@FinnMckentyPRMBA Год назад

I know!! It sucks

@mutantdog. Год назад

Both rocking the pink getup I see. 😉

@SBridge11100 Год назад

yo Finn will you ever do a video on Nightwish and/or Sabatons?

@MikeDunne 11 месяцев назад

you should do a interview with jared dines or stevie t.

@jacksdad734 Год назад

Cool

@NeXaSLvL Год назад

there will always be periods of innovation and saturation, that's how innovations become cemented

@ryanportino9857 Год назад

jimmy & timmy power hour IRL

@Swollen_Goat Год назад

Mr. Nocturnal is my favorite!

@rossmusic25 Год назад

IT FINALLY HAPPENED

@dissonantgrooves Год назад

ah snap, my two favorite music youtubers in one video

@erika3174 Год назад

Omg, I love you both! I mean.. not in a para-social way.. of course...