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Nikola Jokic's BOGUS MVP Blows Up Gil's Arena 

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Nikola Jokic's BOGUS MVP Blows Up Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew battle over who they think deserved the NBA MVP Award between Jokic & Shai Gilgeous Alexander and debate if Shai carrying the young Oklahoma City Thunder to the #1 Seed should've been enough to take down Jokic and his Denver Nuggets after taking a step back this season.
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@Shlki_thmpsn19
@Shlki_thmpsn19 10 дней назад
Kenyon: “you’re contradicting yourself” McCants: “ I can do that “
@Quinto_
@Quinto_ 10 дней назад
😭😭😭
@Dipset415
@Dipset415 10 дней назад
😭😭
@taylormadealpha
@taylormadealpha 10 дней назад
He has to do this stuff on purpose to piss everyone off. He's playing a role, right? He can't be serious with some of this stuff...😅😂
@user-xh1wt7kr5l
@user-xh1wt7kr5l 10 дней назад
@@taylormadealpha it’s crazy tho because at the end they all agreed with what he said tho
@jasonmorgan6970
@jasonmorgan6970 10 дней назад
Rashad don't get debo'ed by Kmart we will call the ambulance 💯💯💯💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@realakestate
@realakestate 6 дней назад
Saying Anthony Edwards is the best player in the league right now over someone like Luka who gets 34/9/9 is insane!!! Jennings is a clown for that statement.
@robscotty4902
@robscotty4902 5 дней назад
Luka chokes every playoffs but it’s never his fault
@cravenmoorehead6265
@cravenmoorehead6265 5 дней назад
Yapping at its finest😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Where was this narrative against the Clippers or Phoenix Suns in 2022
@crisdorcas4655
@crisdorcas4655 4 дня назад
Luka stats don't transcend to wins tho
@crisdorcas4655
@crisdorcas4655 4 дня назад
They act like ja don't play no more
@realakestate
@realakestate 4 дня назад
@@robscotty4902 how was going to the Western Conference final two years ago choking when they ultimately lost to the team that won it all. He's not Booker
@econometrics469
@econometrics469 8 дней назад
This pod is unbelievable. Near triple-double, tied for first, no all-stars on his team, his right-hand man out a significant portion of the year, his efficiency stats leading the NBA by a mile, and it's a "bogus" win??
@almighty.J6
@almighty.J6 8 дней назад
exactly but nobody wanna hear it, all people looking at basic stats
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 8 дней назад
@@almighty.J6They don’t wanna look at the top 10 in points, rebounds and assists
@sidsid3645
@sidsid3645 8 дней назад
Giannis should've got it if you ask me 30pts (2nd )11.5 rebs (6th) 6 ast(14th) 61.1 % fg (7th) #414LOVE
@econometrics469
@econometrics469 8 дней назад
@@sidsid3645 Nahhh no way. He had a great year, but the Bucks were tied for the 9th best record in the league. Luka had a better record in a better division, ~4 more points, ~3 more assists, only ~2.5-3 less rebounds, and played without Kyrie, Lively, Exum, and others for long stretches. He was my MVP with a comfortable lead, Giannis was probably 3rd or 4th. Solid regular season to add to his HoF resume though. He's going to be underrated asf when he retires.
@not-much-but-enough
@not-much-but-enough 8 дней назад
It's because he is Serbian and that's why the white media hate him and the blacks hate him because he is white and has Serbian orthodox values that are the opposite of American individualistic, Instagram, brand advertising, boasting values. When these guys see Jokic dominatijg all the black players they can't help but hate him. When you are raised and told that your automatically better then someone else in basketball and sports in general because of the skin colour you have than we get issues like this. Racism amongst the blacks is rampant and needs to be put on check.
@satyamthakuri2044
@satyamthakuri2044 8 дней назад
Jokic deserved the MVP. They all just being bias. He is one of the greatest centres of all time. They just don't want to recognise him that way.
@FirstHorizon388
@FirstHorizon388 4 дня назад
What is their bias?
@doublen6054
@doublen6054 4 дня назад
​@@FirstHorizon388 Stop.
@57harrierstrikes
@57harrierstrikes 4 дня назад
@@FirstHorizon388 It's obvious, he's white lmao.
@ThaTruth223
@ThaTruth223 3 дня назад
@@doublen6054what’s their bias, and before you say stop actually answer the question
@doublen6054
@doublen6054 3 дня назад
@@ThaTruth223 No.
@c-meezy765
@c-meezy765 10 дней назад
Jokic was without Murray for 23 games and still had the same record as the Thunder.
@abigailmcdonald9133
@abigailmcdonald9133 9 дней назад
Except that at the beginning of the season, OKC wasn't even projected to make the playoffs, let alone be the number 1 team.
@miloslazarski9140
@miloslazarski9140 9 дней назад
@@abigailmcdonald9133 Then Jokic should have gotten an MVP back in 2018-19 because Nuggets weren't expected to be a second seed in the West?
@abigailmcdonald9133
@abigailmcdonald9133 9 дней назад
​@@miloslazarski9140 That year it went to the best player on the best team in the league, Giannis. Compare Giannis' stats to Jokic stats that year and there's absolutely no comparison.
@abigailmcdonald9133
@abigailmcdonald9133 9 дней назад
My point is, there's a heavy price to pay for greatness.You are giving the defending champion credit for missing a key player and still keeping afloat. Heck, you are not even giving the team credit, you are giving one player credit only, Jokic. Forget Porter, Gordon, or KCP. This is the defending champions with their primary core in tact.
@miloslazarski9140
@miloslazarski9140 9 дней назад
@@abigailmcdonald9133 Well Shai stats arn't better than Jokic's stats this year while they have the same record. On the other hand Jokic has better record than Luka's team (best of both worlds basically). Imo if Jokic wasn't going to get it it should have been Luka. Jokic should have been MVP last year, Luka or Shai this year. As for Embiid, 0 MVPs so far, sorry.
@_saucegod
@_saucegod 10 дней назад
At this point McCants just know how to get under y’all skin 😭😭😭
@grantwilson3219
@grantwilson3219 10 дней назад
Professionally 😂
@Ross601MS
@Ross601MS 10 дней назад
Nah. When u was a below average NBA player trolling is the only thing that gets you by.
@kalicomusic8594
@kalicomusic8594 10 дней назад
… McCants is on the spectrum. His social skills are mute. Even his championship teammates don’t fw him; Gil a good friend to him.
@isaiahgriffin9166
@isaiahgriffin9166 10 дней назад
And he the biggest there💪... they not gonna try him forreal😂😭
@monsieurimhim6147
@monsieurimhim6147 10 дней назад
Mcants the only that be 🍆 riding , he got a mind of own and his takes be on point .
@meshell70
@meshell70 8 дней назад
Joker's 2023-2024 season: PPG - 26.4 12TH, RPG - 12.4 4TH, APG-9 4TH, SPG -1.4 1ST AMONG CENTERS, FG%-58.3% 10TH, USG%- 28.8% 24TH, TOTAL DEFLECTION 5TH, PER-31 1ST, WS-17 1ST, OWS-12 1ST, DWS-5.1 2ND, BPM-13.2 1ST, DD -68 2ND, TD-25 2ND. Joker has the highest PER in NBA history. This doesn't include all of the records he has broken or set this season. Jamal out for over 20 games, and he has carried the Nuggets to the playoffs once again. SGA's resume is nowhere near this. 51 30+ point games, and leading a young team doesn't qualify you for MVP. SGA: 30.1 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 6.2 APG, FG% 54. Why do you always have to discredit someone? Worst MVP in over 40 years? Nice try. 🤡 Haters.
@SaySpawn
@SaySpawn 4 дня назад
Jokic is such a great two way player. All the players laud his Incredible defense and have been for the last 9 years.😂
@Goldenj360
@Goldenj360 11 часов назад
@@SaySpawnwhen did SGA become a defender?
@luisasigala9494
@luisasigala9494 5 дней назад
All three have great seasons however if you line up Jokic, Luka and SGA, SGA gets pick last
@elesaslounge733
@elesaslounge733 5 дней назад
Looking for this comment
@prfinest9810
@prfinest9810 9 дней назад
These guys are proof that just because you play NBA doesn't mean you know basketball lol. Lets talk about their SGA got robbed stuff. Jokic was top 10 in scoring, top 5 in Rebs and top 3 in asst, He was more efficient than SGA, they finished with the same record despite Murray missing 30 games. Jokic was number 1 in damn near every ADV stat which usually dictates whats an MVP, plus minus, VORP, PER,TS% etc he was number 1. Denver differential when Jokic is on the floor and off the floor is also larger than SGA with OKC. Last point on the SGA stuff, he put up very similar great numbers last year but they were 9th, this year they are 1st... Go look at SGA's stats last year its almost identical but there is a big jump in record and seeding, why is that? could it be because Chet finally played? Jwill went from 14 a game to almost 20 a game? Not taking anything away from SGA, I think he is the best SG in bball, I had him 3rd in my MVP after jokic and luka, hell of a player but to say he got robbed because he lost to Jokic is absurd and just straight up hating on Jokic.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 9 дней назад
Very objective and everything you said is completely correct. Anyone who validates an opinion by saying ‘well players say so’ show their own idiocy.
@torreywallace1494
@torreywallace1494 8 дней назад
Facts.
@tafaritaylor19
@tafaritaylor19 8 дней назад
🤓
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 8 дней назад
@@tafaritaylor19 What you denying about the post?
@doughknight3730
@doughknight3730 8 дней назад
Facts!! I hate that they played in the NBA crap they always try to pull on everybody. That doesn’t mean your word is law. Mccants made the most sense out of them all here and they try to discredit him just because of his NBA career. That stuff is so lame
@brycemontano7786
@brycemontano7786 9 дней назад
He didn't contradict himself, he was proving that by Kmarts standards it should have been Nash. But then Kmart contradicts himself by arguing.
@louiev1833
@louiev1833 8 дней назад
Can't believe I had to scroll down this far to find someone who pointed this out. Everyone just automatically gets on Mccants case without listening to what his full point just because it's the popular thing to do
@user-lt1fx2he5s
@user-lt1fx2he5s 8 дней назад
@@louiev1833They’re not looking at the keyword in MVP “Valuable” that means making your teammates around you better sacrificing shots so MPJ, Aaron Gordon and KCP can average double digit points
@genosmith-cb6vq
@genosmith-cb6vq 8 дней назад
He contradicted himself cause he brought up Nash and Nash won cause he had the best record that's a contradiction🤦🏿‍♂️. SAG did the same thing and he didn't win it but then u have 23 goofy's agreeing with u like what u said made sense when that was CLEARLY a contradiction 😂😂
@bryanfox6726
@bryanfox6726 8 дней назад
@@genosmith-cb6vq Denver 57-25 ... OKC 57-25 ... records are a wash ... the better player Nikola Jokic and it is in no way close.
@ray_9211
@ray_9211 7 дней назад
@@genosmith-cb6vqthats not what he said, you dingus. He said Boston had the best record, so why didnt someone from them win? By their criteria it should have been Tatum, that‘s what he is saying. By their criteria, Nash‘s MVP was completely justified.
@deelak2329
@deelak2329 9 дней назад
If Jokic's MVP is Bogus than everybody on this panel's careers are Bogus. None of them have done ANYTHING. ANYTHING.
@frescolive
@frescolive 7 дней назад
Jokic aint never drop 60 on Kobe. 😂🤷🏿‍♂️
@buttons__6046
@buttons__6046 6 дней назад
​@@frescoliveFacts!
@matthewweiss8579
@matthewweiss8579 6 дней назад
@@frescolivein a regular season game that was meaningless in the long run lol. Gilbert was always losing in the first round of the playoffs, even when he had 3 other all stars on his team. Jokic has never played with an all star.
@frescolive
@frescolive 6 дней назад
@@buttons__6046 Embiid dropped 40 PLUS POINTS ON JOKIC THOUGH!! 🤣🤣🤣
@AngelopolusBolanis
@AngelopolusBolanis 6 дней назад
Facts!!!!!
@Blesss007
@Blesss007 7 дней назад
I am starting to think if Jokic was black then this conversation would be different
@haroldbrown6173
@haroldbrown6173 6 дней назад
Somebody else made this comment, find it but how does the black thing work because embid won it and we all though jokic should've won it and it's crazy because he already won 3 times and we agreed he earned it so I missing this black thing
@jesterchesterfield2374
@jesterchesterfield2374 4 дня назад
@@haroldbrown6173because last year Kendrick Perkins turned the nba voters against Jokic because they were on the verge of being labeled racist for giving a white guy 3 straight MVPs, and Jordan didn’t even do that. If Jokic was black, Perks argument would not have existed. So yes, 💯 it’s because of the color of jokic’s skin.
@haroldbrown6173
@haroldbrown6173 4 дня назад
@@jesterchesterfield2374 I can respect that.. but clearly he dont speak for those who know... I had no problem with him winning...jokic is really that dude.. white or black
@wilcoxcmc
@wilcoxcmc 4 дня назад
I'm black and I agree
@sarumane5380
@sarumane5380 3 дня назад
@@haroldbrown6173 Those who don't know are in the minority, but they are loud and speak to a lot of insecurities. People that are at peace with themselves don't resonate with those voices, but they also less loud.
@AP-ov9px
@AP-ov9px 10 дней назад
I love when he asked them 'Who's the best player?' Silence mode, their faces PRICELESS! 😂😂😂
@Brazillianboi69
@Brazillianboi69 10 дней назад
They didn’t wanna say Jokic lmao
@rodricousarrington8480
@rodricousarrington8480 10 дней назад
No it’s was a lot of cats hooping but hands down embiid was hooping on another level he doesn’t get hurt that man is mvp again
@AP-ov9px
@AP-ov9px 10 дней назад
@@rodricousarrington8480 But how do you know that if he's not playing? Fortune teller?
@Sagpio75
@Sagpio75 10 дней назад
Joel was the best player in the league last year. LeBron was cheated out of at least 2 league MVP's...simple
@chay770
@chay770 9 дней назад
@@Sagpio75even they said jokic was the bst player last month. Now they switch up for their arguments fake ass
@dabigaLbowski
@dabigaLbowski 10 дней назад
Kmart said it. It's the voters and their "criteria" for mvp. None of the players are to blame for how the award is voted on, which is what the media continues to do.
@deloreswilliams1027
@deloreswilliams1027 10 дней назад
He definitely deserved it last year Kendrick Perkins sabotaged last year with race bs
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 10 дней назад
And most of us know corporate media has an agenda.
@tgreg9542
@tgreg9542 10 дней назад
KMart a idiot🤦🏾‍♂️ he need to be fired🤦🏾‍♂️
@taqiyyaconcarne6908
@taqiyyaconcarne6908 10 дней назад
Gotta pump racism into the headlines to sell subscriptions.
@sabatech.8025
@sabatech.8025 10 дней назад
Yep imagine getting criticized and hated on for something you have no control over.
@rorydougherty
@rorydougherty 8 дней назад
Jokic should have won 4 MVP’s in a row. He’s in the midst of one of the greatest 4 year runs in NBA history. Fu@& what the clowns on this show say
@sucramgoodwin2550
@sucramgoodwin2550 5 дней назад
U a fan tho
@DrugzMunny
@DrugzMunny 5 дней назад
Arguably his first MVP may have been a robbery of Giannis, though. But then, last year, Embiid may have robbed Jokic. But this year, Embiid would've won it if he played a few more games.
@user-vq3xf4bf9q
@user-vq3xf4bf9q 5 дней назад
You don't watch much basketball. He did good but there are way more greater 4 year stretches than this. Russ averaged a triple double for 4 seasons straight. Coming close to it is not that great. He plays subpar defense. He's a great scorer and passer but nth we haven't seen before
@enoFTTV
@enoFTTV 5 дней назад
@@user-vq3xf4bf9q You're mentally challenged for typing that out lmfao. Complete dumbass
@doublen6054
@doublen6054 4 дня назад
​@@user-vq3xf4bf9qThere's a DPOTY award for a reason. Stop coping.
@ntnnot
@ntnnot 5 дней назад
Fellas... Game 5: Jokic 40 pts 7 reb 13 ast 2 stl 1 blk... ... ...0 turnovers
@CHANNEL_HH
@CHANNEL_HH 5 дней назад
The lord works in mysterious ways
@TJinoue
@TJinoue 10 дней назад
Why they sit them 2 men next to each other 😂
@Joshdifferent
@Joshdifferent 10 дней назад
😂
@quentttinnn
@quentttinnn 10 дней назад
this been building for a while they hate each other
@TreeEl-gp2tx
@TreeEl-gp2tx 10 дней назад
Makes for great entertainment 😆
@sheikhqh716
@sheikhqh716 10 дней назад
Maybe they are gays , this is one explanation😂😂😂.
@El_Fonzo
@El_Fonzo 10 дней назад
Does that make you uncomfortable?
@_viewsfromthed
@_viewsfromthed 10 дней назад
For long time viewers: This Kmart & Mccants thing is a major moment in this show. We’ve seen the body language and non verbal disgusts Kmart has for Rashad. But he finally expressed how he feels about Rashad and it’s not good at all. We’re gonna see more heated moments between the two.
@RealParadox85
@RealParadox85 10 дней назад
Not good? This is GREAT. Gonna be like when Shannon and Skip got into it. Love it. He called McCants a child LMAOO
@Christo_Trismegistus
@Christo_Trismegistus 10 дней назад
Kmart is boring as hell and has some weird takes. McCants way more entertaining and important to the show
@carbon.the.christ5626
@carbon.the.christ5626 10 дней назад
Miko found out whos opinion was more valuable to the show😅
@Jussomebread
@Jussomebread 10 дней назад
@@Christo_Trismegistus you must be a dumbahhh to that’s jus like drama…go watch BET
@elhadjndiaye8031
@elhadjndiaye8031 10 дней назад
Facts, all he do is argue and never has good points. That one Allstar he made going over his head.​@@Christo_Trismegistus
@fredbird7257
@fredbird7257 8 дней назад
If you care about advanced stats theres no debate. Jokic is the most valuable.
@icjet1ks
@icjet1ks 8 дней назад
wtf "IF" of course you care about advanced stats when comparing players, unless you're a member of the media who dont give a huge f
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤥
@davidramirez578
@davidramirez578 6 дней назад
The dude in the black w cap is the only one keeping it real
@donteashley-newman5910
@donteashley-newman5910 10 дней назад
I think Rashad is the hidden gem 🥸
@jaybriggs2430
@jaybriggs2430 10 дней назад
He low-key is lol
@nathaniveyshow
@nathaniveyshow 10 дней назад
They all are, Gil, Kmart, Rashad, thats the core
@Kieso904
@Kieso904 9 дней назад
Hell no, Mccants thinks he’s always right even when he contradicts himself. That’s a hidden gem to you?
@torreywallace1494
@torreywallace1494 8 дней назад
Rashad might be the realest on the show ​@@Kieso904 gilbert kenyon ND bj are walking contradictions. You letting your Fandom blow smoke u ya rear. Just pass episode they said Jokic was the best Player in the NBA. Now Joel is the best in the NBA to these ppl. It's crazy.
@TheRafaelBond
@TheRafaelBond 8 дней назад
@@Kieso904 where did he contradict himself? He literally made them eat their words.
@f.o.cc.a9590
@f.o.cc.a9590 9 дней назад
It's not easy averaging 30 points congratulations to Shai for being a contender but it's called Most Valuable Player. The Joker averages 26 12 and 9. That's crazy for anybody
@not-much-but-enough
@not-much-but-enough 8 дней назад
Doncic is much more better and valuable than shai. Doncic has consistently been dominant since he had arrived in the NBA and is on a different level. If doncic had black skin then these guys would be calling him the next MJ or Kobe.
@josenunez611
@josenunez611 7 дней назад
It is easy to average 30
@f.o.cc.a9590
@f.o.cc.a9590 7 дней назад
@@not-much-but-enough don't use black skin as a reference to what we are talking about. It has nothing to do with skin.Nikola Jokic has how many MVP's. I'll wait
@f.o.cc.a9590
@f.o.cc.a9590 7 дней назад
@@josenunez611 you don't know basketball my friend
@josenunez611
@josenunez611 7 дней назад
@@f.o.cc.a9590 you acting like these stats are crazy 🤣 you probably barley started watching basketball
@PartyFighter123
@PartyFighter123 7 дней назад
When Rashad asked them WHO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA, that silence told us everything you need to know
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤔
@hotgrease
@hotgrease 9 дней назад
I like how the argument for Shai is that “it’ll be hard to get it next year.” Shai had an amazing year. Focus on what he accomplished vs how “unfair” it is that he has to compete with Antman next year.
@bryanfox6726
@bryanfox6726 8 дней назад
It's absolutely insane ... tuggin' at our heart-strings ...
@lilpoppa2k
@lilpoppa2k 10 дней назад
McCants is 2010 randy orton level heel LMAO
@paulbrown2135
@paulbrown2135 10 дней назад
FACTS 😂😂😂
@SasukesSharingan.
@SasukesSharingan. 10 дней назад
That's disrespectful to randy.. mccants don't got the career or game to be compared to a great... lol
@awptsm
@awptsm 10 дней назад
How many of those voters were white vs black I would wonder. Old vs young. Played vs didn't play. Need the dynamics
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 10 дней назад
​@@awptsmhow many of them voted Embiid over Jokic.
@dashontutt1969
@dashontutt1969 9 дней назад
I love this comment 😂
@thicksmoke779
@thicksmoke779 10 дней назад
To title this video Nikola Jokic’s “BOGUS” MVP is crazy
@AllThingsKen
@AllThingsKen 10 дней назад
it fits
@chay770
@chay770 10 дней назад
@@AllThingsKen hell no. nuggets missed murray for 30 games funny how they never mention that? they also still have same record as OKC. If you want to go points its luka if you want to go seeding its tatum. shai has no case for mvp
@benjaminireland7096
@benjaminireland7096 10 дней назад
clickbait
@III15CRiMEY
@III15CRiMEY 10 дней назад
_--i DiDN'T WATCH THE NBA ThiS Season .. BUT HOW DiD OKC (((definition of trash))) GET THE #1 SEED ..iN THE West🤯?? .. THAT'S NOT A Playoff-Level Team , LAST i ReMeMBeR L😭L!!-_-
@TiredofTomfoolery7
@TiredofTomfoolery7 10 дней назад
​@chay770 If Murray didn't come back last year, then they go gome in the first round. Who put them over against the Lakers? That sloppy boy isn't shit and his quick reign is over.
@elinikola5816
@elinikola5816 5 дней назад
Nahhh they are mad. They just don’t want a guy like Nikola being the best player in the league. He’s a big tall , white, YMCA looking player who’s destroying these nba players. Plus a European is the best player in an American league. Just bitter people.
@robp9746
@robp9746 5 дней назад
Hit the nail on the head.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🙄
@MikeChamp
@MikeChamp 5 дней назад
Jokic making anyone still complaining look embarrassing.
@robp9746
@robp9746 5 дней назад
Funny as hell ain’t it?
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🙄
@helbingstein8429
@helbingstein8429 10 дней назад
He led the NBA in PER (Player Efficiency Rating), finished 2nd in total assists (3rd in APG), 3rd in total rebounds (4th in RPG), 5th in total points (10th in PPG), 8th in total steals (20th in SPG) and 10th in field goal percentage. Jokić also led the league in Win Shares (17.0), Offensive Win Shares (12.0), Box Plus/Minus (13.2), Offensive Box Plus/Minus (9.0), Defensive Box Plus/Minus (4.2) and Value Over Replacement Player (10.6). Additionally, Joker led the Nuggets in total points, rebounds, and assists for the seventh consecutive season, becoming the first player in NBA history to accomplish this feat (no one had done this in four straight seasons prior to Nikola in 2020-21).
@brandoblack7318
@brandoblack7318 10 дней назад
If you have to write all that , to persuade people he should be mvp . Thats how you know he shouldnt have won mvp!
@chay770
@chay770 10 дней назад
@@brandoblack7318 hell no. nuggets missed murray for 30 games funny how they never mention that? they also still have same record as OKC. If you want to go points its luka if you want to go seeding its tatum. shai has no case for mvp
@dre27321
@dre27321 10 дней назад
@@chay770 they did mention that. funny how you didn't watch the video or didn't comprehend it and came to your own conclusions about what they were saying. They said why Shai has a case for mvp: best player on best team in a CLEARLY BETTER conference who wasnt even projected to be anywhere close as to high as they are before the season started
@chay770
@chay770 9 дней назад
@@dre27321 Thats some lazy analysis and when everytime gil mention jokic he never mentions that on nightcap he said “ i think he was 3rd on the west” so stop lying. Gil also mention the overall seed when mentioning jokers mvp.. 10th seed ,6th seed” but when he talks about shai he’s 1 seed lmao. Yall just don’t like this euro guy is killing the nba. You can see when rashad asked them who the best nba player was they was silent for 10 secs cause they know who they were just petty. They all said a month ago jokic was the best player btw, if you take your takes from gil then u a dumbo
@mirali7488
@mirali7488 9 дней назад
@@brandoblack7318 That makes zero sense.
@browneyez8600
@browneyez8600 10 дней назад
Personally I'd rather have jokic than embids and fact is jokic plays more games every yr whether there a 65 game minimum or not
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 10 дней назад
If you want to get past the first round in the playoffs, you better have Jokic.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤦🏿‍♂️
@yeheheyee9998
@yeheheyee9998 День назад
@@THEREALLORDJif you rather have embiid over jokic you don’t know anything about basketball
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ День назад
@@yeheheyee9998 WELL IF EMBIID WAS JUST A ALL-STAR LEVEL PLAYER I'D SEE YOUR POINT BUT ON TALENT ALONE AND THE FACT HE ROUTINELY OUTPLAYS JOKIC, JUST LEAVES YOU WITH AN ARGUEMENT OF AVAILABILITY!!!
@drkirbkennethkirby7634
@drkirbkennethkirby7634 9 дней назад
Jokic owned every advanced statistic and a lot of the basic ones. He was ARGUABLY the best player of the year, and on the basis of "How good is the team without him?" argument, the Nuggets would be a lottery team without Jokic there. The man is literally the most efficient player of all time, and has no real weakness to his game. His defense aint great, but it ain't bad either. He's also insanely consistent, and shows up every game, which is something Embiid can't claim, and neither can Giannis this year. The only other competitor was Luka. People are saying Shai, but him and Luka basically do the same things in different ways, but Luka does them better. They're both PPG and playmaker players, and Luka wins both of those categories with arguably a worse team. OKC is stacked with young, great talent, when you got Chet as your third option, your team is badass. I usually stan for Gil and agree with him on a lot of his controversial opinions, but this doesn't sit right with me. Just feels like hate for the white boy.
@justinangelbeck6330
@justinangelbeck6330 8 дней назад
That's all it is. He wants to ban Euro players.
@Shmokedoggg
@Shmokedoggg 8 дней назад
I usually don't like wut Gil say but I agree wit em on this 1
@chillekojhurst2169
@chillekojhurst2169 7 дней назад
LIES
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🙄
@harderway8568
@harderway8568 5 дней назад
I just love how Jokic decided to make all those so called analysts look like complete idiots.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤥
@michaelvl494
@michaelvl494 9 дней назад
Jokic met all the criteria. His numbers aren't empty because the team needs everyone one of those rebounds, points, and assists to win and have one of the best records in the league. Jokic is their entire system of success. You can replace Jamal Murray on the Nuggets, you can't replace Jokic.
@douglaswilburn9278
@douglaswilburn9278 6 дней назад
You saying he met all the criteria but there is no official criteria when voting for the MVP that’s what the whole segment was about they give to whom ever the want year by year
@ajmorgan3439
@ajmorgan3439 5 дней назад
I hear you, SGA is not replaceable for OKC
@johnsonnguyen3114
@johnsonnguyen3114 4 дня назад
Facts!!!
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 10 дней назад
Whenever Jokic wins MVP, they cry about how someone else should have won it. Joker didn't do enough in the postseason so he shouldn't win MVP. Remember that? But SGA who doesn't have any postseason experience except for this year, should win MVP over Jokic who is a proven winner. FOH with the double standards! SGA is putting up the same numbers he did last season when OKC won 40 games and missed the playoffs. OKC got Chet Holmgren this year and Jalen Williams took a leap offensively. That's why the Thunder got better. Denver's roster got worse this season and they still won more games than last year, while the Western conference got tougher!
@brandonbarnswell8059
@brandonbarnswell8059 10 дней назад
Never looked at it this way. Solid argument.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🥱
@junu0507
@junu0507 8 дней назад
Mccants is the most reasonable one here.
@colen4222
@colen4222 7 дней назад
By far
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤥
@richuk69
@richuk69 7 дней назад
Jokic became just the second player to finish with more than 2,000 points, 900 rebounds and 700 assists in a regular season in history SGA was not robbed
@fitt1930
@fitt1930 4 дня назад
These guys are big ass race est clowns. They just can’t stand a white boy punking the brothers
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤔
@reachllnx3954
@reachllnx3954 10 дней назад
Fun fact Rashad mccants dropped his career high in the league on Kenyon 😂
@mblu3tees552
@mblu3tees552 10 дней назад
2 different positions 🤦‍♂️
@reachllnx3954
@reachllnx3954 10 дней назад
@@mblu3tees552 oh the films on RU-vid Kenyon was guarding him
@Lyvette2000
@Lyvette2000 10 дней назад
No one remember him like they did Keyon don’t get it twisted!!
@suave6600
@suave6600 10 дней назад
@@reachllnx3954 lol i’m sure he was sum plays on a switch off or something lol but they’re literally two different positions dosent even make sense
@yeahriightt24
@yeahriightt24 10 дней назад
He had a good game out of how many years. Lol
@geraldorivera5442
@geraldorivera5442 10 дней назад
The difference between 1st and 2nd was NOTHING !!! 57-25… what are yall talking bout.
@johnnypayn3414
@johnnypayn3414 10 дней назад
What’s the head to head? What determined them being #1? Has to be something
@chuckEdopemoves
@chuckEdopemoves 10 дней назад
Ok so why was Tatum basically not even mentioned in the discussion! They literally gave Steve Nash a MVP for this exact reason. Being the best player on the team wit the best record. They changed the narrative so they could give it to the player they wanted to have it
@tgtwane125
@tgtwane125 10 дней назад
@@johnnypayn3414OKC won 3 out 4
@brlnhplto
@brlnhplto 10 дней назад
@@chuckEdopemoves yeah, so inconsistent with the voting. voters should be 50% HallofFamers and 50% ex nba players. this media narrative voters fucked up a lot of players.
@johnnybuchananjr9344
@johnnybuchananjr9344 10 дней назад
True ​@@chuckEdopemoves
@DJKHOTTA
@DJKHOTTA 8 дней назад
You can't make an argument for Shai and mention his scoring, when Luka scored way more, assisted more, and was overall a highly productive player. There is no real criteria to actually weigh on favor of Shai when considering numbers, it's either a case for Luka or Jokic, the only difference is that Shai is black.
@antuanleach6762
@antuanleach6762 7 дней назад
SGA a better defender than Joker and Luka...so there's that. But I guess when we judge how valuable a player is, we gotta forget about defense.😂
@imaginethat3026
@imaginethat3026 7 дней назад
​@@antuanleach6762Its funny how these same people complain about lack of defense in today's league yet will turnaround and throw that aspect out the window to claim their favorite Euro player is better😂😂
@antuanleach6762
@antuanleach6762 7 дней назад
@imaginethat3026 right. SGA mess around and make all nba and an all defense team. But somehow, two guys who will never sniff an all defense team is better.
@DJKHOTTA
@DJKHOTTA 7 дней назад
@@imaginethat3026 I wouldn't say that defense is not important, Jokic is more important than Shai for different reasons, but i agree that defense should be weighed with more importance because caring only about scoring is deceiving.
@DJKHOTTA
@DJKHOTTA 7 дней назад
@@antuanleach6762 Jokic is not completely useless in defense like let's say, a Tray Young, he will actually try to box out with the other team's big man, but of course, he is slower than most, i would agree that defense is an aspect in which Shai is objectively better than Jokic, just like Jokic is a way better rebounder and passer than Shai, and like in every advanced statistic, he is more valuable, but I'd agree that Shai is a better defender.
@slowroc
@slowroc 8 дней назад
How does Jokic not get a MVP after winning the championship last year. The judging mindset is you’re winning too much or something?
@RickRijuanaPro
@RickRijuanaPro 10 дней назад
One thing I've noticed about this show is they don't respect McCants opinion because he was never a star player in the league.
@obeewon1598
@obeewon1598 10 дней назад
Nah its cuz he's mentally retarded.
@Chasingdreams008
@Chasingdreams008 10 дней назад
Why would they lol?
@aesondadon2063
@aesondadon2063 10 дней назад
Plus because he’s always hating 🤦🏾‍♂️
@corb0239
@corb0239 10 дней назад
I agree. I feel like they just threw him on here bc he’s not afraid to go against the common takes & he’s good at stirring shit up😂 regardless tho he’s getting a bag so he’ll take the hate & be fine.
@RickRijuanaPro
@RickRijuanaPro 10 дней назад
@@Chasingdreams008 🤣🤣
@slobodanstojanovic8125
@slobodanstojanovic8125 10 дней назад
Gil saying Murray aint playing is irrelavant for Jokers MVP but then saying Brunson leading his team without some players is important, interesting...
@earlkapri9624
@earlkapri9624 9 дней назад
I agree wit you but then it’s like Denver really do got the more solid pieces compared to Knicks but you def are right that is interesting …
@kaelinjefferies9267
@kaelinjefferies9267 9 дней назад
He was saying that joker and Brunson are in similar situations so why wasn’t Brunson in the conversation.
@Yodell223
@Yodell223 9 дней назад
Then they also don’t add in the fact Murray are mostly no shows during the beginning of games
@slobodanstojanovic8125
@slobodanstojanovic8125 9 дней назад
@@kaelinjefferies9267 They are trying so hard to discredit Jokic that is sad, like Gil saying take assist from Jokic and his double doubles are like every big in the league lol how many bigs make 26,27 ppg and 12,13 rbs? why take anything, thats like me saying take points from the Shail or Luka and their numbers are like any guard in the league, or him saying Nobody ever said Jokic dominated end of the game or being clutch lol its always Murray for him, he literally saw this 2 games vs Lakers where Murray made buzzers and if you see Jokic video of his clutch finishes you would see atleast 4,5 game winning blocks, then so many game winning pts both 2's and 3's and game winning assists and action was set for him...If you come from good heart here you would say i think Shai was more deserved MVP cos of this and that and Jokic is also deserving of the award cos he does this and that and not be so emotional and HATEFUL tbh against Jokic and try to bash him with stupid takes...
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 8 дней назад
Any mental gymnastic to get out of admitting Joker is HIM
@travisbatts1662
@travisbatts1662 4 дня назад
Gilbert is a fool, Jokic was putting up great numbers in the 4th quarter, in that Lakers series.
@robp9746
@robp9746 5 дней назад
Robbed?? This didn’t age well. After Joker dropped 40 on the DPOY, it’s obvious the only one robbed was him when they gave the MVP to Embiid last year.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤭
@StuntmanBeatz313
@StuntmanBeatz313 10 дней назад
Rashad made the biggest point when he asked if it’s the best player on the best team… another reason is Boston is 7 games clear of OKC & their win margin was historical… penalizing them for their conference is the same criteria shifting you are accusing the media of…
@dustintapp5230
@dustintapp5230 9 дней назад
That and the west isn't top heavy like the easy
@Stretch79
@Stretch79 9 дней назад
I think it's also because they have like 4 Allstars, and 3 #1 type options on their squad. So when you add that all up in the regular season, that doesn't add up too much of a case for anybody on the Celtics unfortunately. They should do the awards right after the regular season and have a MVP and a Most Outstanding Player award
@SmokiiMoc
@SmokiiMoc 8 дней назад
rashad is becoming great with his takes. Uses your logic against you since mfs wanna act like he always trippen. He does have that nah move tf around opinion sometime typa opinion but its not a lie most of the time. Speaks a harsh reality that 2024 nba has moved away from
@lejonsifford3493
@lejonsifford3493 8 дней назад
That was how it used to be
@MARS-qm9qt
@MARS-qm9qt 8 дней назад
If Boston played in the west the be a 4 seed
@mi.tsiklauri
@mi.tsiklauri 9 дней назад
for Americans, Nicola's only minus is, that he is white and not even American.
@srisavvyofficial8974
@srisavvyofficial8974 5 дней назад
Cap
@kenseaco
@kenseaco 5 дней назад
LMMFAO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING
@jesterchesterfield2374
@jesterchesterfield2374 4 дня назад
⁠@@kenseaconow you see how the majority of the public feels when anything about racism against African Americans come up, It’s horseshit.
@trueroman6775
@trueroman6775 4 дня назад
@@kenseacoKendrick Perkins and many others seem to disagree, you’d think people wouldn’t stoop to something so trivial in a sport of all things…
@57harrierstrikes
@57harrierstrikes 4 дня назад
Nah I'm a white American so I like him
@BirdLives7
@BirdLives7 5 дней назад
"Who's the best player in the NBA, right now? 🦗 🦗 🦗 These guys will do anything to not give Joker his flowers. Embarrassing!
@horacelilbigbrother9215
@horacelilbigbrother9215 8 дней назад
Lmao 😆 This was a great basketball conversation man! K-Mart keeps checking Richard's cup man ,😂😂😂
@ZeroG
@ZeroG 10 дней назад
If Joker was Black we wouldn't be hearing this wingeing
@rods7028
@rods7028 10 дней назад
I thought this
@obeewon1598
@obeewon1598 10 дней назад
Exactly, because he wouldn't have gotten it lol.
@adarkwind4712
@adarkwind4712 10 дней назад
​@@obeewon1598 you can take that sh-t and walk especially after last year.
@mozzie7899
@mozzie7899 10 дней назад
damn right!
@reemoe9374
@reemoe9374 10 дней назад
@@obeewon1598facts
@LANCEp12
@LANCEp12 10 дней назад
Told that man you ain’t in competition in life 😭😭
@Pleasebringwatersllc
@Pleasebringwatersllc 10 дней назад
Mannn 😅
@theonlykingA
@theonlykingA 10 дней назад
He was about to go off, that’s why he said change the subject 😂
@jonesDeshaun
@jonesDeshaun 10 дней назад
EVER IN LIFE! that shit had anger behind it lmao
@Riley_rolo
@Riley_rolo 10 дней назад
Kmart crying cause he knows he wrong. Kmart and gil are extremely bias its staggering. Mvp vote was not even close hes shattering records.
@1BCHRIS
@1BCHRIS 10 дней назад
THAT WAS CRAZY😂😂😭😭
@davidm5646
@davidm5646 5 дней назад
How them words taste Gil after Jokic made you eat them. All these cowards with their stupid takes got lured out by Denver starting 0-2 and now they're on apology or double down mode.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🙄
@jasonelkins6879
@jasonelkins6879 5 дней назад
McCant has a lot of “factual opinions” for someone who was out the league in 4 years
@thomaskell1920
@thomaskell1920 10 дней назад
They all acting like they haven’t said within a month that Jokic was the best player in the league.
@smidrin
@smidrin 10 дней назад
Bruh it’s wild lol, everyone agrees Jokic is the best player in the world but for the sake of their argument they go say embiid.. the guy that was ducking him for 2 seasons lmaooo
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 10 дней назад
Debatable he’s best player. Def NOT the MVP tho
@smidrin
@smidrin 10 дней назад
@@newagain9964 how is 26-12-9 with 58 percent from the field with a team record of 57-25 not MVP bro?
@realtalkfbs
@realtalkfbs 10 дней назад
I caught that too LOL
@isrealdeshield7906
@isrealdeshield7906 10 дней назад
Best player in the league and MVP is two different thing 🤦‍♂️. SGA should have won. Your forget what it means. It not about Stat. He led them in the west of all place. He should have got it
@userx6561
@userx6561 9 дней назад
McCants seems to be at peace with what his career was and what his life is. It seems petty and personal to keep throwing that in his face. The disrespect is unnecessary.
@larryjordan23
@larryjordan23 9 дней назад
Facts
@xia0411
@xia0411 9 дней назад
i actually like McCants and what he has to say, i think he's actually respect his opinion more than more of the guys on this show.
@dapoint841
@dapoint841 8 дней назад
True Story that shit ain't cool.
@punaforager
@punaforager 8 дней назад
McCants is a valuable character on gils arena, please be more respectful of his flavor.
@manisthemeasure2205
@manisthemeasure2205 7 дней назад
The problem arises when people treat opinions as facts. They’re not. There are no objective criteria to for MVP. It’s always based on someone’s subjective opinion, and reasonable people can always disagree.
@Milan1988Z
@Milan1988Z 5 дней назад
The best thing is that Joker doesn't even care. He's just casually going to have one of the best careers in histroy of NBA and these clowns will never get over it while he'll be chilling with his horses.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🥱
@KingBerry23
@KingBerry23 8 дней назад
Brandon started dancing…even he got nervous 😂😂
@cactusjack2264
@cactusjack2264 10 дней назад
The moment Rashad and KMart fight gonna be the day Gil’s Arena gonna reach Club Shay Shay numbers lol
@clutchspace4217
@clutchspace4217 9 дней назад
I’m taking Rashad in an upset
@cactusjack2264
@cactusjack2264 9 дней назад
@@clutchspace4217 idk, Rashad look like he scared of Kmart tbh, bro be mad quiet when Kmart around lol 🤦‍♂️
@Gaindalf93
@Gaindalf93 9 дней назад
@@cactusjack2264his biceps is double the size of kmarts mccants would destroy him, skinny wanna be tough guy
@cactusjack2264
@cactusjack2264 9 дней назад
@@Gaindalf93 size don’t mean nothing tbh, biggest mfs can get folded
@Gaindalf93
@Gaindalf93 9 дней назад
@@cactusjack2264 it does mean something, we know nothing about their fighting skills and in a fight where neither is an actual fighter the bigger one wins 95% of the time, like I highly highly doubt he’s actually scared of the guy, I wouldn’t be either
@justrichxx
@justrichxx 10 дней назад
He took them glasses off i swear he was about to cry😭😭 McCants know how to play the fool
@chazhopkins4686
@chazhopkins4686 10 дней назад
He’s not playing.
@thefreakyrobber0
@thefreakyrobber0 10 дней назад
Cap
@Riley_rolo
@Riley_rolo 10 дней назад
Any idiot who thinks shai is a more valuable player then jokic simply is either being extremely bias or have no clue about basketball.
@clausbacher
@clausbacher 10 дней назад
@@Riley_roloIts slight racist undertones…..I heard that more often.
@MichaelJwolf1984
@MichaelJwolf1984 10 дней назад
@@Riley_rolo or that,Jokic is more valuable than LUKA is as well. Look how exposed Minnesota is making Jokic look. Luka under rated hated and the NBA doesn’t want another European non American winning MVP with Jokic it’s not another it’s just adding to the same guy. America doesn’t like its game being dominated by non Americans. Giannis, Embid,Jokic, heaven forbid add Luka. They want ANT or SGA somebody black and American
@JDeanBeats-nr3bs
@JDeanBeats-nr3bs 5 дней назад
The "Euro boys" are kicking your ass, never saw so much pain and dissapointment in so called sport commentators. Just watch what Jokic did yesterday and you will know why he is the MVP.
@horacelilbigbrother9215
@horacelilbigbrother9215 8 дней назад
People forget how Jason Kidd was robbed too when he led that NJ Nets team to the Finals in his 1st season there
@brianerisca6822
@brianerisca6822 10 дней назад
Something about this show irritates me but I can't stop watching these clowns so I guess I'm the clown 😭
@sirrogerisme
@sirrogerisme 10 дней назад
Lmao that’s how I feel about a lot of stuff sometimes
@throbbn
@throbbn 10 дней назад
Bruh, same.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤭
@MasterSlime03
@MasterSlime03 9 дней назад
Kenyon kills me wit that tough stuff like somebody supposed to be scared of him
@TiredofTomfoolery7
@TiredofTomfoolery7 9 дней назад
I bet you wouldn't run up on him. While you bumping on your keyboard
@alexanderadonyae7937
@alexanderadonyae7937 9 дней назад
Kenyon put hands on grown men back then💥 he even knocked T mac upside his head.. Kenyon Martin was a certified goon back in the 2000's
@Daevon-ph6it
@Daevon-ph6it 9 дней назад
A basketball debate and that was your take from all this ? 😂😂
@larryjordan23
@larryjordan23 9 дней назад
He didn’t want smoke with Tim Thomas
@MasterSlime03
@MasterSlime03 9 дней назад
@@TiredofTomfoolery7no I wouldn’t run up on him I’m not out just looking for fights but I wouldn’t back down from him goofy
@WhatSmada
@WhatSmada 4 дня назад
when apparent clickbait is actually just a self-report of ignorance
@robertcurington3657
@robertcurington3657 5 дней назад
Kenyon and McCants gon throw hands on the pod one day 😂😂😂
@Ballad2Grave
@Ballad2Grave 10 дней назад
12:49 They all know it's Joker that's why so quiet in a room... xD
@chay770
@chay770 10 дней назад
they said he’s the best player like a month ago lol
@versax
@versax 10 дней назад
The pause from everyone when the question was asked “Who’s the best player in the NBA,” should say everything it needs too about the argument.
@shara-la8629
@shara-la8629 10 дней назад
It says: Shameful bunch!!!
@BigPlay_Trey
@BigPlay_Trey 10 дней назад
That doesn’t mean you should just win mvp 😂😂😂 by your logic, in 77 years we should only have about 10-15 recipients.
@Coachjay778
@Coachjay778 10 дней назад
When Derrick Rose won MVP, was he the MVP? No, Lebron was. Mvp doesn’t mean best player in the league
@mikewill4839
@mikewill4839 10 дней назад
Bron Mj Shaq and Kobe would have way more if this was how it went
@dhaitimd1541
@dhaitimd1541 10 дней назад
@@Coachjay778 🌹youngest player carried that bulls team to the number one record with no other all star while LeBron had all stars Bosh and Wade contributing to their team success
@dejanlazickd
@dejanlazickd 4 дня назад
Jokic elevated team from the bottom to the champions. Man does it all, rebounds, assist, 3 point , made whole his team better.
@dusica1904
@dusica1904 8 дней назад
People are DEEEELUDEEEED for thinkin anyone else deserve this award rather then JOkic....Inorant and deluded.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🤥
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe 10 дней назад
In 87-88 Mike’s first MVP 35-5-5 BULLS won 50 games Larry Bird 29-9-6 CELTICS won 57 games 🤷‍♂️
@kirbyaugustine761
@kirbyaugustine761 10 дней назад
Maybe it was because Larry was playing with a roster of future hall of Famers
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe 10 дней назад
@@kirbyaugustine761 that’s precisely my point, it’s based on narrative surrounding a player and team and whatever is the thinking among the actual voters…the Lakers actually had the best record that year 😂 but Magic had a team full of HOFers too…this idea that it’s only a regular season award is laughable as well because we always come into the next year giving preferential treatment to the Finals MVP and guys that had tea deep playoff runs…if Ant or SGA or Tatum or Brunson win it this year , they will undoubtedly be the MVP favorites next year
@kareempusey5032
@kareempusey5032 10 дней назад
Your talking about a time when they actually watched the game and not stat watched
@SullyAfgarshe
@SullyAfgarshe 10 дней назад
@@kareempusey5032 they watch games now too but that doesn’t make a difference now, nor did it then because the only way we can quantify the eye test is through stats, and wins…but the voters are more swayed by whatever narrative is attractive to them, which could be a bunch of different factors, which we won’t know without interviewing each voter
@mj23goat3
@mj23goat3 10 дней назад
Larry wasn't even on any of the All-Defensive teams that year whereas MJ was 1st team while also becoming the only man to win a scoring title and DPOY in the same season, along with winning the first of his 3 steals titles.
@richiy11
@richiy11 10 дней назад
Few weeks ago during the conversation about weakest MVP, Gil said Jokic deserves MVP this year. Now he’s flip flopping
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 10 дней назад
I recall Gil having SGA as his MVP around a few weeks ago.
@christopherchilton8931
@christopherchilton8931 10 дней назад
I thought I saw a segment where Gilbrick was pumping SGA. Honestly, I think he deserves it. No one saw this coming from OKC and his numbers are banging
@MrDiMES123
@MrDiMES123 9 дней назад
He said SGA
@geoffreyandrews7607
@geoffreyandrews7607 8 дней назад
In the game 5 close out game of last years NBA Finals, Jokic shot 12/16, had 28 points and 16 rebounds. Murray had 14 points on 6/15 shooting. The hate on Jokic not being a closer is WILD. He did it to seal a championship on the highest level. Something that none of these dudes ever did in any of their careers!
@dtcharo
@dtcharo 5 дней назад
McCants turned those clowns into mimes with a simple question. That silence spoke volumes.
@THEREALLORDJ
@THEREALLORDJ 2 дня назад
🙄
@Movincool54
@Movincool54 10 дней назад
Bro Joker damn near avg a triple double over 79 games! Cmon son
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 9 дней назад
If you go across sports media every person of a specific skin color is saying SGA got robbed. And then they mention Nash. It's interesting how whenever a white player wins the MVP there is a controversy. In 40+ yrs the only white guy that have won it where there was no controversy is Bird. Even when Dirk won it there was controversy. I guess white players are not allowed to be the best player and win the MVP.
@okirrama3587
@okirrama3587 9 дней назад
We all know why they hate him?....cuz he's white as a snow
@bowtiebann9630
@bowtiebann9630 9 дней назад
​@roboninja3194 he didn't have best season this year... so far he got 2 MVPs that should've went to someone else... they only riding his pipe because he can pass the ball..
@mohondjouha2564
@mohondjouha2564 9 дней назад
@@roboninja3194not true cuz literally last year people believed Embiid was the wrong choice 💀
@ssminowjohnson9687
@ssminowjohnson9687 8 дней назад
@@roboninja3194Stop with your MAYO grievance. That seems to be the only reason you snowflakes are even interested in the conversation. SGA had a better season than the GWH go cry about it snowflake
@the_zarn8423
@the_zarn8423 10 дней назад
All these dudes are just hating man 😂😂 except for swole homie in black
@jdsirrom4314
@jdsirrom4314 10 дней назад
Naw, they really believe what they are arguing.
@chuckEdopemoves
@chuckEdopemoves 10 дней назад
They not hating, he had a better case of winning it last year than this year . They just clearly didn't want him to win 3 in a row. The media proved to be bias or have agendas cus it's no way he won over SGA or why Tatum was basically a footnote
@CheekzAhoy
@CheekzAhoy 8 дней назад
​@@jdsirrom4314 still some hating ass shit..
@JayRandomness-zw3zz
@JayRandomness-zw3zz 7 дней назад
Joker not only scores , he gets blocks, assists, rebounds. Dude is always like 1 Ast shy of Triple double. He's all around. It was such race bias Joker didn't win it last year, be real and trying to argue the 3rd best player was better than Joker. It doesn't go to the best team w/ best player. It goes to the best player by numbers and his team being good has helped win it. We've seen how everyone's true colors come out now that Caitlin Clark beat all collegiate records and Joker has dominated NBA for years. We see the True Bias come out in front of our eyes. I have much respect to those who see common sense clearly like some of the guys here, but the others, cmon man.
@emoney824
@emoney824 5 дней назад
Man he called that man a child!!!
@derricklattimore7400
@derricklattimore7400 10 дней назад
I feel like everytime Kenyon says “real hoopers that play the game” that’s his nice way to exclude McCants😂
@htownblack9184
@htownblack9184 9 дней назад
The shade of it all lol
@1212rusty
@1212rusty 9 дней назад
He was talking about media. Shad played the game. He can't say that even if he wanted to
@derricklattimore7400
@derricklattimore7400 9 дней назад
@@1212rusty idk who he’s talking to because he didn’t specify but you could be right just like I could be. Just opinions
@LostboyXx11
@LostboyXx11 9 дней назад
MVP is not just based of PPG. It's all the intangibles. The players overall value.
@Kieso904
@Kieso904 9 дней назад
Taking your team from the bottom to the top is why SGA should be MVP.
@MDB465
@MDB465 9 дней назад
If that’s the metric luka deserves it
@bmitch3137
@bmitch3137 9 дней назад
​@@MDB465 Luka has kyrie
@MDB465
@MDB465 9 дней назад
@@bmitch3137 Was out 25/30 games
@Lister-gf3hi
@Lister-gf3hi 9 дней назад
Jokic 26/9/12 10th FG 58% 2 seed Record 57-25 10th points 3rd assists 4th rebounds 13th steals 38th blocks 3 pointers (not top 100) 2nd triple doubles (25) SGA 30/6/5 25th FG 53% 1 seed Record 57-25 3rd points 19th assists 58th rebounds 2nd steals 35th blocks 3 pointers (not top 100) Triple doubles 0 Luka 33/9/9 57th FG 48% 5 seed Record 52-32 1st points 2nd assists 15th rebounds 8th steals 94th blocks 2nd 3 pointers 3rd triple doubles (21) Jokic 1 in all these advanced stats PER rating Win shares Offensive win shares Win shares per 48 minutes Box plus/minus Defensive box plus/minus Offensive box plus/minus Value over replacement player Usage rates 1 Luka 2 Giannis 3 SGA 5 Ant 12 Tatum 17 Jokic
@devonfurgess1719
@devonfurgess1719 6 дней назад
They talking like OKC and Denver didnt have the same record when the season ended🤣🤣🤣
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 8 дней назад
Only the dude in the black cap uses his head and not his heart in this convo. If joker was black, dude would be everyones #1 with zero questions.
@roscoeorginal
@roscoeorginal 10 дней назад
You know the Thunder and Nuggets tied in wins, so why does standings matter
@michaelallen8112
@michaelallen8112 10 дней назад
Cuz one had the tied breaker & other wasn't even on the radar to be top 3 let alone top 8? Stop fam
@cp3190
@cp3190 10 дней назад
​@@michaelallen8112that one person did the same thing he did last year what did Shai do better this year? it's his team that improved
@accordingtodrew7302
@accordingtodrew7302 10 дней назад
@@cp3190if you look at jokic stats compared to last year, they’re damn near identical, so how did he improve? Shai efficiency and defense improved greatly. Add on the fact Shai is doing this with a young group of guys with little to no experience of winning in the nba
@emil2683
@emil2683 10 дней назад
​​@@accordingtodrew7302 He didn't need to improve. He was MVP finalist last year and kept playing like an mvp this year. Was top 5 in points,rebounds and assists,8th in steals. Led the league in PER,box plus minus and win shares and his team was tied for the best record in the west with Murray missing 1/3 of the season.
@roscoeorginal
@roscoeorginal 9 дней назад
@@michaelallen8112 what are you talking about, everyone thought that the Thunder would take a leap. I thought they’d be at worst a 5th seed and at best 3rd or even 2nd. All those players on the roster were young and talented, obviously each of their were going to improve and by proxy their team as a whole improve.
@ffreshtadeff
@ffreshtadeff 10 дней назад
Lmao Rashad’s question who is the best, we all know it’s fucking joker.
@SoulVernacular23
@SoulVernacular23 10 дней назад
I think he’s a great offensive threat but there’s more to the game and on that other end he can’t stop shit
@splashbros-yc9lk
@splashbros-yc9lk 10 дней назад
The way they took forever to answer him like they ain’t know what the question was 🤦🏽‍♂️ Jokic the best player they just don’t like how his game looks
@shaqgotthejuice3
@shaqgotthejuice3 10 дней назад
Joel play both of sides of the ball , as you can see the wolves series they can’t stop nobody in the paint
@davidboyd3000
@davidboyd3000 10 дней назад
How ? If Murray doesn't play how good are the Nuggets? Some players don't have a number 2 and still win series SGA, Brunson... To the point they can't afford to suspend Murray, throw him out or even give a tech... Wolves showing everyone how good the Joker is... Enjoy 🍿. .
@splashbros-yc9lk
@splashbros-yc9lk 10 дней назад
@@shaqgotthejuice3 cap hartenstein was killing him last series. He’s a liability in pick and roll just like Jokic y’all just get fooled cause he can block a shot here and there
@sebastiancalmet-medone8856
@sebastiancalmet-medone8856 7 дней назад
16:45 there’s a huge difference in Westbrook and joker, one of their teams was in finals and winning a title and the other was barley an 8th seed, only one of there “patted stats” lead to winning
@REVIEWSWITJAY
@REVIEWSWITJAY 10 дней назад
Rashad play the hell out of the role don’t he 😂😂😂
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 10 дней назад
He knows what's up. Can't say I'm too sure anybody else on the show knows how debate panel shows work.
@Ptsd360
@Ptsd360 10 дней назад
Rashad should’ve broke down what a “heel” is and what role it plays in a debate show. He would’ve ethered Kmart.
@user-ht9mh4cm3f
@user-ht9mh4cm3f 10 дней назад
Kenyon need to calm down with the personal shit. Hypocritical to call someone else a child while acting like an infant yourself
@fendlygislain2665
@fendlygislain2665 10 дней назад
Glad I wasn’t the only one
@theseoulgoode
@theseoulgoode 10 дней назад
Yeah we can't be cool after that. The low blows, calling the man a child, etc. Nah we're good bro. Lets do these segments and keep it moving. KMart has no respect for McCants. None.
@00700556
@00700556 10 дней назад
It’s not that deep. Lol
@thetruthiam-vy8le
@thetruthiam-vy8le 10 дней назад
@@00700556 🤡
@bandheadrob
@bandheadrob 10 дней назад
If I was mcccant I’d bat tf outta Kenyon. You ain’t the only one bout it bout it G.
@xFrankNitti
@xFrankNitti 5 дней назад
Luka should've won it over everyone. Been snubbed every year
@DLo_MD
@DLo_MD 7 дней назад
Exactly what Kmart said. SGA: An efficient 2-way player, who brought an inexperienced non-playoff team to the top of the West.
@c.l.s5445
@c.l.s5445 10 дней назад
Y’all talk like the Thunder cleared the 1 seed by 20 games. Shit was tied, and Jokic had the same record as the #1 seed with his 2nd best player missing 30 games. It’s all good to think SGA is MVP, he had a MVP season. To say Jokic got some fan vote, is pure salt. A little something else too. Smh
@moneyball647
@moneyball647 10 дней назад
Yep, these guys are idiots. lol. They are just hating on Jokic for the last 4-5 years.
@anthonyjackson7210
@anthonyjackson7210 10 дней назад
17 game win improvement
@accordingtodrew7302
@accordingtodrew7302 10 дней назад
At the beginning of the season, if I told you the thunder would tie the nuggets with the best record in the west, you would laughed it off. That’s shai mvp argument right there. Nobody expected them to be in this position. The second youngest team in the league is top 5 in offense and defense
@bigsamkay
@bigsamkay 10 дней назад
​@anthonyjackson7210 so maybe Chet is the MVP then? Cos he wasn't there? Cos Gilbert is penalising Jokic for needing Murray
@jmrayos9930
@jmrayos9930 10 дней назад
​@@bigsamkayproblem with jokic is he won mvp being a 6th seed. i think someone else should have won that year. so jokic winning this year wouldnt even be a debate.
@rjb1987xx
@rjb1987xx 10 дней назад
Mccants be pissing Kenyon off but Kmart to old to be tying to bully people even if mccants be saying some dumb shit Kmart tripping it ain’t that serious 😂😂😂😂
@DC4L1991
@DC4L1991 10 дней назад
It ain’t that serious to be honest, Kenyon be talking like he was Tim Duncan or some shit 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️.
@yeahriightt24
@yeahriightt24 10 дней назад
Hell naw you can’t sit there and let McCants get away with crazy takes. If someone contradicts themselves and says “I can do that” they don’t need to be talking.
@chuckgamble5696
@chuckgamble5696 10 дней назад
​@@DC4L1991Brrrrruh I swear to god. Bruh swear he was an enforcer 😂
@TreeEl-gp2tx
@TreeEl-gp2tx 10 дней назад
​@@chuckgamble5696He definitely was an enforcer. He's a remembered player in the league. Can't say that for most 💯
@eliazerperez9240
@eliazerperez9240 10 дней назад
15 yrs ago Kmart would have put hands on him 😂
@julsc2106
@julsc2106 4 дня назад
If joker was black I don't think this would be an issue
@reidmediaproductionsllc4044
@reidmediaproductionsllc4044 7 дней назад
Love this show! All my favorite villains form the 90s and early 2000s NBA.
@buddylee5712
@buddylee5712 10 дней назад
Jokic numbers are historic. He basically averaged a 26-point triple double on a crazy 58%. He's also the ONLY all-star caliber player on his team who's 2nd leading scorer (Murray) missing 23 games. Joker does more with less, and the Nuggets are a lottery team without him.
@kyleclark4650
@kyleclark4650 10 дней назад
He didnt even average a triple double tho. Cant almost win a game you either do or dont. He didnt. Westbrook actually averaged a triple double 4 seasons and won it once....
@lake49
@lake49 10 дней назад
​@@kyleclark46501 assist away from a triple double is just as impressive, that was a dumb statement!
@Money5ettinIt
@Money5ettinIt 10 дней назад
​@@lake49LMAO you a clown so you saying not averaging a triple double is better then averaging a triple double opinion isn't valid
@frederickharrison6195
@frederickharrison6195 10 дней назад
Sga did with less
@Noggindoing
@Noggindoing 10 дней назад
Denver has also lost 14 of their last 14 games and counting vs West playoff teams not named LAL/NOP dating back to November when their opponents played all their stars. His defense sucks and DEN straight up hasn’t competed with the better teams in the west’s best the entire year. What MVP loses 14 of 14.
@jaybriggs2430
@jaybriggs2430 10 дней назад
Rashad was making a valid point but they didn't comprehend because they thought he was arguing with his own point with tatum after saying congratulations to joker
@monsieurimhim6147
@monsieurimhim6147 10 дней назад
Mcants the most accurate one up there , he just to real so they can't argue his points cause they actually make since
@kadeemanderson2606
@kadeemanderson2606 10 дней назад
I thought I was the only one. It's the clicks Rashad is an easy target because he doesn't fit in.. Deep down they know Rashad was like that haven't figured out why they want to argue everything he says. Kenyon knew what he was talking about when he said y'all gotta stop that.
@michaeljohnson2000
@michaeljohnson2000 10 дней назад
He completely wrong
@joebucketsTV
@joebucketsTV 9 дней назад
Nah, he had no point honestly. Gil debunked everything he said. Rashad was TRYING to say they're being consistent, but they aren't: Russ got got one MVP from averaging a triple-double (out of 3 seasons) and his team was bad all 3 times...meanwhile Joker has won 3 MVPs for ALMOST averaging a triple double while his team wasn't the best team in the league. Gil was saying Russ should've won them in the same fashion but he didn't, because it's the EXACT same situation. Rashad was having issues seeing that because he doesn't have the capacity to listen objectively.
@monsieurimhim6147
@monsieurimhim6147 9 дней назад
@@joebucketsTV once he asked who the best player ...he proved his point They didnt wanna say jokic for 💩 start talking about if everybody healthy, this & that but took forever to provide a name
@KendanAdams
@KendanAdams 7 часов назад
Saying:”what has The joker done individually”??? Sounds crazy to me! He obviously forgot to look at the stats of each and every game. The Joker has been consistent in putting up double figures in points, rebounds or assists.
@mj8607
@mj8607 4 дня назад
Jokic doesn't flop.
@lilyuumo
@lilyuumo 10 дней назад
"Nobody cares about Joker on the court, everyone is worried about Murray" - Gil Good lord he has to be trolling
@vdf27
@vdf27 10 дней назад
its true. you dont understand the game man. casuals get hyped up about watered down triple doubles. You notice how the Nugs are about to get swept because Murray isn't playing well? Your MVP is about to lose in the 2nd round man. That enough should teach you something.
@lifeofagony1535
@lifeofagony1535 10 дней назад
​@vdf27 stfu, every coach in the league has been trying to stop him for the last 4 years. The man who built the nuggets literally built Minnesota to beat the nuggets. So, in the last 4 years a team needed to be built to stop him.
@LumenOw
@LumenOw 10 дней назад
⁠@@vdf27😂 about to get swept indeed
@ibelmao4176
@ibelmao4176 10 дней назад
Exactly jokic is the offense they act like what he does on the court isn’t impactful like it’s just empty stats. Murray been terrible this postseason aside from the few moments he’s had. If jokic didn’t do all he does they would’ve been out in the first round
@Vichinsky-ox8px
@Vichinsky-ox8px 10 дней назад
​@@vdf27LeBron got swept
@MJisGoat797
@MJisGoat797 9 дней назад
SGA with Similar stats last year didn't make the playoffs. Chet came in and played all 82 games. So to quote Gil but replacing Murray's name with Chets..."If you needed [Chet] to help you get first why are we awarding you?" Good point Gil...
@kaptainkool408
@kaptainkool408 9 дней назад
Good point @MJisGoat797
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 8 дней назад
He averages a point less too😂
@DavidGonzalez-ml4nv
@DavidGonzalez-ml4nv 5 дней назад
Jokic is a one of one player. No one else has even come close to what he brings to the table. Ant, SGA, Luka and many others will be forgotten or lost with many other Shooting guards. There is simply no one else I’m taking as the MVP for his regular season team. Nuggets without Jokic don’t even end up top 6 in the west, can’t say the same for all others.
@fakerhasbulaten
@fakerhasbulaten 5 дней назад
This is podcast of scrubs
@WalkingUpsideDown
@WalkingUpsideDown 10 дней назад
Y’all callin it a BOGUS & Gil going on Nightcap calling Shaq a hater for doing the same thing is hilarious
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