Ninja Turtles Co-Creator Kevin Eastman: How to Lose $14 Million in Indie Comics 

Good. Edgy garbage died in the 90s where it belonged

@NDHFilms You say that like it hasn't ping-ponged back and forth with a lot of the material that's come out since then, especially the tv shows. "Same As It Never Was", anyone?

@@bryanc7094 Cringe comment.

It's a really strange journey. It's super interesting me to that it started as a parody or a jab at pulpy bubblegum comics (Daredevil) of the time, taking anthropomorphic turtles and giving them a super serious 90's edge. Then it evolved to juxtapose ITSELF. Goofy, pizza loving non-violent turtles are beloved compared to the original murderous ones.

@@bryanc7094 1) You cant substitute "Gritty" with "Edgy". Edgy is quite literally defined as something that tries too hard to be dark and gritty. 2) Edginess did not die in the nineties. The mid 2000s were filled to the brim with edgy shlock as well. 3) U implying the OG tmnt was garbage? SMH

Jack Hinich that’s exactly what I was going to say!

I wouldn't say it's his best, but it's good.

I was going to say the same thing

Dunno man, that one where Chris is "dying" still number one for me.

Jack Hinich yeah And I often grown whenever they're don Well I gotta say, props; that was fantastic

@Dalek SupremeIntroducing the Leonardo Who Shredds.

@Dalek Supreme Enter the Turtleverse

Ninjas where everywhere in the 80's.

"so, your suppose to be us, from other worlds? i don't see it..." "what's with the multi colored headbands?" "heh, Sellouts!"

How old was this person?

@@danielg.w5733 I don't remember, but I believe he was in his twenties.

To be honest, for a time I thought hey were Italians simply because all the ninjas had Italian names😂😊

Hate is a strong word to use for Peter though. I disliked alot of the early changes but realised he could keep his comics and still have franchise do other things. He headed a bunch of those multicolored headband turtle shows. Kevin on the otherhand seemed to have thought the tmnt was a stepping stone to other things, after a while he seamed tired of it and wanted to try other things but like the prodigal son he realised the grass isnt always greener and came back home.

It's the 89 arcade game. Turtles in Time has a different title screen and uses a different font for its notification to advance to the next screen.

@@daegan_ftw doesnt matter. still GLORIOUS!!! lol

Half the time of this review I was distracted by the arcade masine

@@daegan_ftw Looks like the Arcade1up cabinet. That one has both the 89 arcade and the arcade version of Turtles in Time.

That's not turtles in time dude.

CT is pretty good though I think a bit naive. He's missing a really obvious piece of the puzzle. I will hopefully offer a more complete story on how TMNT happened.

@@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 with a comment this bold i'd like to see what you have to say that he's allegedly missed

@@thomasmuandersontheneousul41841 year later and you have not clarified what he allegedly missed. 🐔 bock bock

A fellow man of culture, I see.

When they announced season 3 of that series, that was the episode I was looking forward to the most.

@@Thrawns_Office It's the one episode I watch over & over.

Marvel Legends better be there, at least the Toybiz ones.

There's a documentary called "Turtle Power" that's even better.

i was thinking the same thing

Same here. Heavy Metal is treasure trove of brilliant creators and stories. It also the best "mature" comics magazine.

Tales from the crypt too!

Did you do any of the covers?

dude yes I had a magazine of that

Well it was just Peter’s house. They grew out of it as they got bigger. No fire I’m aware of.

didnt expect to see you here

Costumes lol. When i was 5 i wanted to be a ninja turtle for halloween so bad, but the costumes were sold out. So my mom got some green clothes from a thrift store and made front and back turtle shell out of poster board, a bandana, got face paint and all. Then my dad (who ran a K-mart store back then) had gotten a costume shipped from another store to his and took it home to me and totally stole my mom's thunder. 30 years later, i still feel guilty about not wearing mom's costume

You should’ve looked for a toysize human in a flashers coat and hat. They blend in with people the second they leave the sewer. Hopefully somebody lost a Ralph to take care of him and tell him what to do to get pizza as he needs leadership.

sup splash!

He’s like the John Romero of comics! Lol I just realized the pictures were taped like last week when somebody pointed it out lol

His heart is why he’s in this predicament!!

Right I had guess it was like 25-50 split, with at least half going to running the company or setting up a cushion. Only 20 for the company is pretty crazy even to someone who doesn't know anything about business. Like even a household couldn't run on only that much. People spend more of their paycheck on basic stuff.

@@DSan-kl2yc really FN generous of a publisher, especially from a business stand point. I gotta respect the man for trying. If He just hired a business consultant, he could've pulled it off. Then again, his uncle kind of was his business consultant. If he'd just listened, he could've pulled it off.

agreed. eastman was "good ideas, poorly handled" and makes you wonder the other side of the coin of the TMNT creators

You pretty much got the full Peter Laird story in this video.

Peter Laird's entire personality seems to be complaining about the cartoon. He hated Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, the Shredder, Mona Lisa, every character anyone would ever write in asking when they would appear in Mirage Vol IV (The one he had sole 'custody' on) would be accompanied by a paragraph or two of him complaining about how emotionally bankrupt the idea was, or something. It was wild. It was a self published comic, he didn't even need to print letters at all-- in fact, this was post 2000 when most comics had stopped doing this because they had let internet forums take over. But he just had to post "These are the types of letters you turds are sending in, and this is why you're stupid!" or something. Actually, I'd like to see an episode on him just in case there's some other way to interpret those letters that I've missed. He also really hated the different colored masks... like to an absurd degree. He never explained why, he just did. When they first announced the new 2003 reboot, I was genuinely worried that they'd all have red masks; or even worse the studio would have demanded they be different colors, and he chose _new_ different colors out of spite. Thankfully that didn't happen...

But then you run into the problem of people TRYING to make a thing happen as opposed to it just happening organically. That’s why the comic market is absolutely flooded with things attempting to be a franchise and it goes nowhere. Tmnt just had the most absolute dumb luck of being at the right place at the right time and even then it should not have worked but it did

Word! The costumes are amazing and the fact that they did all those fight scenes in those costumes is even more awe-inspiring! All without CGI, because back then we didn't have CGI worth shit lol!

​@@Galvion1980 Word. I was just thinking at the end of the video that Mikey's nunchaku skills look pretty damn top-notch despite being done by someone in what was probably a heavy and hot rubber suit. Way better than either of the Bay Turtles.

Definitely ! Lots more love in these old movies than in the Bay version. But to each their own...

I just rewatched it after probably twenty years (im 33) and damn, it held up incredibly well in every facet of its production. It was beautiful and touching, funny, shot well, had incredible puppetry and suitmation. It was incredible.

19:15 is that Julie Strain? 😮😮😮😮

They split in 2007.

@@IrishMorgenstern I know. But he still landed her for 10 years.

I have seen his new wife. He's better off now

Julie Strain is attractive but girls like her are a dime a dozen now

@giftofgab247 he wasn't with her in the 80s he was with her in the late 90s early 2000 they only broke up less than 15 years ago

TMNT is NOT the same as Star Wars.

@@schweitzer-man6227 Disney has greatly diminished the value of Star Wars since, but, yeah, Star Wars was more valuable when they bought it.

@@schweitzer-man6227 yeah, i love TMNT but it does not have the cultural cache, the ubiquity of a Star Wars. TMNT had captured a generation, but Star Wars captured multiple. And TMNT was not riding high when nickelodeon made the offer. An equivalent offer in 1993/94 might've been laughable. In the 2000's not so much

With the exception of the very late 80s and early 90s, Star Wars had always been bigger than TMNT. You also have to consider that when the acquisition was being made, there wasn't much of anything going on with the Turtles. The 2003 series was wrapping up meaning that there was no cartoon anymore. There hadn't been much in terms of video games since the PS2 era. There was no movie in active development. This also meant that there would be no new toy line based on anything. All Viacom was buying at that point were what had already existed. Any movie, cartoon or anything would have to be created from scratch. It's true they could make money off of what had already been created but that content would never produce as much money as it did when it was originally created. So $60 million for what could be considered a dormant franchise isn't that bad.

@@KasumiKenshirou Can you people go away already?

Same here, as far as how I learned about the TMNT and opinion on the 4Kids series. I read that the Archie comics stopped adapting cartoon episodes because it turned out that they weren't legally allowed to do so.

I had liked the first film but the next two were a bit weird in focusing on the past and the protector seemed like a better sequel to ong bak. I'd have to check out Ong Bak The New Generation.

who watche ANY Tony Jaa movie for the story?

Kung fu movies have stories??? That's like saying porn movies have stories.

That’s not from ong bak bro

@@LogicbyDesign Thanks for the heads up, though I was half right. I just should have double checked. The *German* title is "Ong Bak: The New Generation". Yah...all English words for the German title and entirely made up by the distributors to fool customers. I edited my comment with the original title.

Yeah that was an insane claim to make.

Yes ecspecially their Aliens/Predator/AVP comics

Jack of All Claws Hard agree, just started reading them and it's hard to put them down.

Oddly enough his face looks like a Doonesbury character there

edison Oh my gosh!! You’re SO right! I can’t believe I didn’t see that. Peak 90’s!!

Já peguei na pré venda

Pipoca&Nanquim né? Tbm achei coincidência...

But with the availability of profits in the markets like stocks and housing, and with the increase in inflation and living cost, that $14 million during that time may have amounted to $40 million today.

Terr Cain Yeah, but that had to hurt at the time. Plus, there was no way to know if he would recover. Most who lose that much money never get it back.

@@truefanforum3273 agreed. at least eastman is stable.

Ian R. Nava Huber I don't know much about either Eastman or Laird so I can't speak on that.

@@FoxUnitNell Yes, because there's a difference between never having to work again rich, and so filthy rich you don't know what to do with yourself. Sarcasm really seems to be lacking in people's comprehension. *Rolls Eyes*

Right?

Yes, it surprises me too, he looks way younger.

if he's in his mid-40's, that would be about right.

I discovered that series back in 2013/2014. I can't remember the last time I was buying TPBs so quickly. It's a great series that I would LOVE to see it get adapted into an animated series. I even got Kevin Eastman to autograph the first volume for me.