Good to know that Nissan is still innovating. Too bad that the company didn’t go bigger into EVs after they introduced the LEAF. I know they released an electric version of their small utility van but it did not come to North America. Hopefully they will be able to get into the EV sector before it is too late.
That EESM drivetrain was initially developped by Renault in the Zoe, the exact same powertrain is also used in the Renault Megane Etech. Cool thing it's that enables 22kW AC charging, they use the windings of the motor stator as chokes for AC/DC conversion
@@sajiantony7473 really? please explain? tesla is the world leader in EV's and no one is even close. Tesla will run away with the market. NO one has a chance. All cars sold in the western world will be Tesla inside just like Intel inside computers. Tesla has won the game already.
Guys I have to say driving a Tesla No buttons and knobs is luxury to me. Having it all in one place and with voice commands. The only thing i have to move is the drive selector. No start stop button, walk away lockup, camera security, best app software ever. I can find my car now every time. These are all luxury touches to me.
I agree as long as it's safe: the integrated turn-signal directional / indicators are still an issue for me. The concept of their operation seems half-baked and not as well thought out. If they intended its functionality to supplement their navigation workflow, such that the FSD package was informed of the driver's destination, they still should not have approved the change until after the level 5 FSD package was approved by regulators.
Only issue I have with buttons is the amount of wiring and parts it requires for just 1 button. Take about 6 wires that have to reach a controller and 3 pieces of plastic not counting the actual electrical portion of the button itself. All that just to "partially" turn off traction control. Multiply that by 5 to 10 buttons turns into spaghetti behind the dash
I love my Ariya (Platinum+). If I don't think about the price my biggest issue is the software. E-step is fine but the lack of true one pedal is a miss. Funny thing is that the vehicle will come to a complete stop & resume during adaptive cruise control. Great video!
Perhaps less "vertically-successful" but Jordan is an excellent orator, and that's what counts here. Thanks lots for the video, guys! Will we have an underside video?
I love Nissan products I've owned several Maxima's and recently acquired a 2000 Infiniti i30. Highly under rated in my opinion. Super reliable, durable and inexpensive repairs (which were few) I hope the Aryiya gets traction in the EV market.
It will for sure The cabin is nice and it is cheaper than Tesla. The tester said it is nice cabin to be in that says it all and it is front wheel drive which is very safe in winter snow/rain for daily driver
To my mind, Teslas aren't "simpler", they are Spartan. Nothing to get in the way to a driving experience besides a functional platform. Bling is extratranious. Dials and a multplicity of switches and knobs are not needed. There are many other cars inthe price point that offer those features, but they can't meet or match the efficiency and lower total cost of ownership and speed of charging that comes with a Tesla. Don't complain about the minimalist interior, embrace it. My one complaint, and it isn't just Tesla, is the use of "Piano Black" which is a fingerprint magnet.
While they did not mention it the EESM motor eliminates the rare earth neodymium magnets which is a big cost adder and as they mentioned a supply chain constraint
It depends if the cost of the additional battery capacity isn’t overshadowed by the rare earth costs. Neodymium motors are almost always more efficient, which translates to less battery needed for the same range.
Is this a model with the ProPilot 2.0 system? I haven’t seen anyone take a close look at the engineering of how they stuffed the self driving computer behind the rear seat, along with a 2nd, dedicated 12v battery for that computer in the back.
The single footwell in the front seems like a really bad idea. I don't think it is particularly uncommon for a driver to set things like shopping bags and purses on the passenger side floor. Doing so in this car could result in things rolling/sliding into the driver's side blocking pedal access.
@@MunroLive, I enjoy much of the information presented on this channel, but this habit/compulsion/characteristic of unnecessarily adding the word "right" is simply too distracting for me to be able to watch this entire video.
@@markplott4820 Depends on your perspective. If you're talking market share then maybe. But that doesn't make the Ariya a bad vehicle or a bad choice. Whilst I have nothing against Tesla as a company their cars are not for me. I want some physical buttons......I want indicator stalks. I also don't want to smack my knee on a central screen all the time. I wouldn't even consider trading my Ariya for a MY. Different cars for different tastes.
@@handsofdoubt31 - just makes the ARYIIA less SAFE than any TESLA , with POOR sales. the LACK of Intergration , speaks Volumes. the R/N/M alliance wont LAST , they will be Absorbed.
As long as the wheels stay on this time, I think many Nissan fans will be happy with this EV if they are brand conscious and brand loyal. If you look around though in this price and category... some will make a different choice. What is most important is that their is choice in the market and that Nissan has come to the party. I hope they will continue to improve and LISTEN to the feedback many customers and experts like this review has for them!
Correct but at this point that is the bar that Nissan has to out due when it comes to a Japanese automaker bringing an EV to market that has to compete with Tesla. @@StubbyStan28
Need to make the Sakura EV available in America to replace the Leaf model. Make it affordable at 18k to 22K and two body style. A mini people mover and a 2 doors extended cab mini pickup.
Taking a look at the Sakura which is a Japanese kei car but for such a low price with its major features. It would sell well here. Around $14,000 110 miles EPA, 80mph, its a four door people mover. Minimial styling in side but has what you need. Especially at the low price.
The software is a little hit and miss. The satnav is definitely a miss. It's TomTom and basically rubbish. But android auto/apple play takes care of that :)
Visually.. nice design.. bang for the buck in tech, performance and efficiency in everything else compared to a model Y.. a mess. You want to spend more to get some visual design you prefer.. but less of everything else lol.. go for it. Considering the actual sales of these vs model Y.. I think most people prefer Tesla's approach of more for less. Yeah.. it comes with some sacrifices imbedded with simplicity for production.. but it comes with a LOT of better tech, efficiency in everything and performance. An EV of this size to have less space and no frunk vs the Y AND still cost more, is just inexcusable poor design.. way to go with the HVAC design though.. but why is everything else taking up so much more room than other vehicles? Tesla has frunks.. Ford has frunks.. even KIa and Hyundai have small frunks.. why does Nissan and so many others have 0 space? lol. Bad engineering. And being a front wheel drive EV.. bleh.. terrible idea.
MODEL Y is a Better vehicle w/ MORE use cases than ARIYA. Model Y is more Efficient , LIGHTER weight , Longer Range . at least the ARIYA uses CCS , instead of DEAD Chademo , but Does not use Superior NACS.
At the price the Ariya e4orce 87 kWh costs in Switzerland I rather buy a Tesla Model Y or similar and also more advanced 800 Volts E-GMP cars from Koreans. Renault and Nissan are similar to the iD of Volkswagen, Skoda, Cupra and Audi - besides of the eTron GT costing three times as much - already outdated EV. BMW and Mercedes only partially competitive also costing double or triple the price with all in my Kia EV6 AWD has. Performance is great and I drive with an average of 16,7 kWh per 100 km since May 2022 when the Ariya should have been delivered. Communication with Nissan was very poor and the company seems to have big problems also for VIP customers owning a GTR - for electronics we had to go to a Hong Kong startup for some updated version in a 150‘000 USD car. So we do not think anymore that Nissan could survive with too expensive and mediocre products. Don’t get me wrong the Ariya is not a bad car if price would be down by 20‘000 USD😂
Wrong, there crates and box test on the Model Y and Ariya and they're pretty in line with the same cargo capacity, even with some box sizes the Ariya is capable of more cargo only with his trunk than a Model Y with trunk and frunk. So...
@@Cosmycal - Aryia is LESS Efficient than model Y , and cant TOW 3500 lbs. Aryia is too HEAVY and has LESS range w/ Full Passengers + Cargo. TESLA model Y LR still BEST option.
I like this car. Some good points, some strange - a lot of wasted space in the front cabin, for sure. Looking at the "office", those "buttons" - when will manufacturers get it into their thick heads that physical buttons are really, really good?. When you're driving, especially at night, the last thing you need to be doing is checking which "tactile" piece of flat plastic you've hit. The location and/or feel of physical buttons is quickly learned and they then can be accessed accurately and without looking. Unless they're going to put more buttons on the steering wheel (as if the amount there already isn't confusing enough) this is a definite problem. Glad Walker brought up the brake light issue on my car I'm never 100% sure on regen whether or not the brake lights are on! Can be scary.
For me, if it's not rubber, cloth, leather, wood or metal: then It's plastic. :) You can get into all the science of different materials, G10, carbon fiber, fiber glass, polycarbonate, resins, etc. but it's all essentially the same to me. So I always find it funny when people talk trash about "plastic", yet they can talk favorably about similar materials that are supposed to somehow be "premium", like carbon fiber. The subjective realm of aesthetics just gets kinda silly to me.
Hey 'kids" of this video[and out there} this writer and others can remember when the blower motor was in the engine bay till circa the 1970s. Then the car makers stuck it, no, make that buried it, under the dash. The reason, more money to repair the ^%$$@ thing when it failed. Even more money to repair if it leaked into the cabin. Its past time to put it where the Aryia has it.
When does a module become a monument? Does it require height? We have a large number of monuments under the hood. Automotive terminology surely is creative.
I like the full frame doors which make for much better wind noise avoidance...something Tesla should have done. Also it's a simpler design which I'm surprised that tesla ignored in this case
Please tell more about the motor. I've heard MB also developed a new generation of EV motor not using rare Earth magnets. We don't know what China could decide in the future - controlling most of magnets supply.
I know it’s not the newest sexiest technology, but we love our frugal 2022 Nissan Leaf SV plus. It has a solid metal (no glass) roof, frame doors, blind spot monitor, real buttons, surround view camera, heat pump, one pedal drive and more. That and our 2023 Subaru Outback together cost about $63 K.
It's great to see the marketing department participating in the development of these vehicles, and adding valuable features like the bootup jingle with their slogan and animation. Fast forward a couple more years and we'll get those backlit logos on the side of these cars like we have all been asking for.
The externally excitable magnetic is far from an energy efficient design. It could theoretically generate more flux than a Tesla motor of the same size if they can manage the thermals.
I did a quick search and the closest inventory to me (Houston area), none had an MSRP of even $50K. They were all in the 40's. So I don't know if I would peg these as $60k
@@cyclopsvision6370 My car has a frunk, I personally don't find it very useful. If others want it that's their business, I'd rather something where the front is smaller like Nissan did here so more space inside can be available.
you guy's mentioned that the Nissan had more head room than the VW id4 go and check it out the rear leg room and cargo space is larger on the VW plus the heating system VW came out with that first on the ID3 open the hood on a id4 and you will see that the fan and cabin filter is under the hood but it might not be used as a crush component like the NISSAN plus the id4 is rear wheel drive when it has a single motor.
I like the underhood packing concept even though the systems packaging is far more crude than Teslas. HVAC all together is good. inverters separated from motors which saves on casing. Inverter and motor can be upgraded separately. Could have two electronics packages HV and LV. The brakes could be bought inboard and mounted to the motor. There is less happening at the wheels and could have aero-covers both sides of the wheel.
Bjørn Nyland did all kinds of testing and reviews. He found it to be an ok EV. The basic version did around 11 hours on the 1,000 km Challenge. The Toyota bZ4x took 14 hours.
Nice to see Nissan innovations. Get tired of always hearing about Tesla this, Tesla that.... Also, switches and instrument panels are not "legacy" usage when they are intended to improve the driver experience and are more user friendly. Just because some designs are easier to build, doesn't mean they improve the driving experience.
It's funny, I have 2 EV's in my family and plenty of friends with model 3's/ Y's, and other than storing charging cables no-one uses their frunk. That said if you bought a truck EV I think you'd use it all the time for shopping, travel bags etc vs the bed
"Externally excited" or "electrically excited", whatever you call it, it is one of the earliest AC motor designs used in the industry, starting from the late 19th century. You can find many examples of these motors on the youtube (ie ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fNuI6keQXYA.html). The advantage over PM AC (they are both synchronous machines), beside lower cost, is that the field can be modified depending on the working condition yielding better characteristics in some working conditions, but it has lower maximum efficiency since you need to apply some small power to generate the field.
Nissan and Renault are in an alliance so no surprise that you see this on Renault Zoe and Smart for 2 since Smart is done now also by Renault on Twingo platform
@@markplott4820 While that is of course true, it hurts anyone that might use this vehicle for trips. This was Nissan's first shot to redeem themselves from the mess that is the Leaf. And while they did ok, it has some noteworthy shortcomings and certainly isn't worth the price being asked.
@@markplott4820 At that cost it should do everything. Charge fast for trips, don't you want to take your EV on a trip? Accelerate quick at all speeds. 0 to 60 included. Front wheel drive, being pulled, in an EV feels wrong. RWD in an EV, being pushed, feels right. We have not even got into battery preconditioning, trip planning and all the stuff needed for an EV to be a great machine. Nisan be the one most aware of all of this making the Leaf years ago. Then there is the cost.. Its too steep.
I thought that the most efficient heat pump designs were of the split type. Would Nissan's HVAC design imply a more severe range reduction when this car is operating in more extreme climates?
The buttons seem too small and close together on the bezel. Functionally grouping the buttons would be better instead of spreading them uniformly. I wonder what the body wind resistance is since that's such an important factor for an EV. A manual hood strut seems cheap for this trim level. Brake light indicator is a nice feature. I know it's a Press vehicle but missed the undercarriage view. Is no frunk important to EV buyers ? Overall good review, thank you for your time.
hope they get rid of the CHAdeMO connector, to let you know of how useless it is in Australia. looking at data, out of 83,000 EV's in Australia about 2150 are Nissan, so you can Imagin the unnecessary cost outside of tesla super charges that every charge point has a CHAdeMO connector included just in case a Nissan needs charging.
Since there is no frunk, and no Engine oil to check, there is no reason to open the hood, except refilling the washer fluid. It's reasonable cost cutting to not use gas struts
Kill two birds with one stone? What do you have against birds? Having a Tesla approach is fine but what about cost of repair? I don't own electric but have wondered about the brake light situation. It used to be if you didn't want to show brake lights you could downshift or even use emergency brakes. We may need three lights for accelerate, coast and brake.
EESM reduce drag by their capability to control the field weakening effect on will, thus it can provide a bit more of efficiency on AWD drivetrains but only on that aspect, the passive physical drag like axle shafts and so on is the same as other electric motors.
