NO, AI Does NOT Democratize Art (And That's a Dumb Defense) || SPEEDPAINT + COMMENTARY 

Art is already "democratized". It's called practicing.

"Now everyone can do art!" This always grinds my gears. Everyone can ALREADY do art, the people that think AI lets others do art just didn't want to learn how to draw.

Tbh people are too obsessive with AI art, and few even bash artists, saying that AI is better, and generates images in a few minutes. What they don't take into consideration is that actual artists' work is how AI art even exists and looks good. I honestly don't get it. (This comment was made before watching the entire video...) edit: THE LIKES- edit 2: y'alls replies are longer than my actual comment 😅

What's even funnier is a lot of AI platforms are starting to charge for their prompting services. So much for democratizing lol.

I’ve said this in another comment section, and I’ll say it again: Honestly what I think we should do w/ ai art is have the generators put the generator watermark ALL OVER the image. Low opacity, 8-15 watermarks. They’d be transparent enough so you could still see the image, but they’re still noticeable enough that you would immediately know it’s ai. Artists could use it as inspiration, and other people can’t pass off the AI as their own work, and corporations can’t really use it for commercial gain. And removing it wouldn’t be an option. No paying for it or editing it out, otherwise there would be consequences.

Between programs such as Krita & Blender, the tutorials here on RU-vid & Skillshare and the low cost drawing tablets from brands such as Huion & XP-Pen, art was already well & truly democratised. Just combine all those with your imagination and boom! You have art.

This is an Art Thieves heaven. AI art goes way too far, and I swear art critics will take the AI and use that as a reason to say “DiGiTaL aRt iS nOt ReAl ArT” which is so dumb.

To people who think AI is democratizing art: Do you think AI companies intend to let you access their tech for free for forever? Social media that is free to use will use all the information it gets against you. Their business models rely on using others labor and information for nefarious uses. For AI companies to make their business model credible, they rely on using copyrighted material, but that is not the only cost.

I think a good use of AI is applying it for very tiring, repetitive, boring, frustrating jobs that bring no value to the human experience. In an ideal world, this would mean an increased productivity done by the robots and shared among all the humans, who would have more free time to dedicate to their favourite activities. Unfortunatly in our capitalist system, robots (and the value they produce) are mostly privately owned by few emplyers, who not only don't share the increased value produced, but also fire actual humans that, even without enjoying the boring job, need its salary. Hopefully this system will crumble quickly when it tends too closely to a situation when a bunch of people own all the robots doing all the jobs and gaining all the money, but nobody can buy their products because nobody has a paid job. A sentence I heard often about Ai and art, and which summarises perfectly my first thoughts about this, is "I wish AI could carry out the job in my place so that I can dedicate to art more, not that AI makes art in my place while I work at my job".

"It makes me both sad and afraid to think of how many young aspiring artists look at AI Generated art and feel like there's no point in learning how to draw because they'll never be able to achieve those results". I know I'm just one person, but for what its worth, the influx of AI users and defenders has actually made me _more_ determined to learn how to draw, to prove that I can and that its still a skill worth learning. I've been working at Creative Writing for some years, but I've always wanted to learn how to draw, and with everything that's happening right now, I feel more inclined than ever to start practising. Even if it doesn't go anywhere on a professional level, at least I might be able to help show solidarity with painters and sketch artists. I know your fears certainly aren't unfounded. There will definitely be people discouraged from trying by AI. But I'm sure I can't be the only one being spurred into learning the actual skills by all this.

AI art is just the same as a translator or a calculator. You can use it to quickly translate a word in another language or to solve an equation, but you're not gonna learn the language or the process to solve that operation.

The fact that I saw someone basically use "robots are humans too" reason for supporting AI images being claimed as art. This really is the beginning of the end of humanity

This is why I refuse to use ai to make art. I'm not good at drawing but I'd rather make it myself or commission someone to draw it rather than using a soulless machine that will make some rip off of someone's work

That "anybody can do it", is a massive dramatic exaggerated statement and easily a brand new modern myth..considering the subject.

Here, take a clear difference between artists and AI: Did you knew that the Anime we all know nowadays , was a japanese reinterpretation of disney designs? That's what happens when you feed humans with art, that's inspiration, But what happens when you feed AI with those disney pictures? It will give to you more disney pictures, That's why AI promotes stagnation, because in a world where there's no more artists putting their own visions on how to ilustrate something, AI will have less and less data to be trained on, so it will stagnate eventually, You don't see people using the models of AI we had a few months ago, because people just gets bored , it looses the magic on the oversaturation... They need something fresh, And i don't know if they would like a reality without new beautiful ways to illustrate something

I draw since almost 10 years. I've grown my community, I've started a Patreon right before AI came out to destroy everything it touches, I am glad my patrons still follow me for (their own statement) their interest into supporting me because they want art made by me. I feel bad immediately as I imagine kids today interested into learning to draw instead of go out and play football, usually the introvert, the "loser that likes to draw" (sorry for the term but that's exactly what I faced when I was in secondary school). Nowadays you'll get the bullies showing up with their smartphone and pull out an AI image generator. Underline how "useless" what you're doing is. That it is pointless to learn to make art because AI can do it "so much better and in seconds". Wouldn't be surprised if next generation will grow with barely anyone interested into making art, because "AI". Art saved me from depression 10 years ago, just few years after I entered the adult world. AI is giving people yet another reason to think artists are just "losers that couldn't find a better job". While simoultaneously thinking that artists are also "Self entitled rich people that wants to gatekeep art". Art exists since humans begun to live in caves. We had to invent the tool meant to bring it to its extinction this precise age, doesn't it? AI represents the very culmination of the depressing society we live into. No matter your interests, your hobbies, your passions, everything must be turned into mass produced fast food to generate profits for the big companies.

See, this proves our society is lazy as hell and we just don't care. We rely on robots for everything and it's starting to show. It was happening 10 years ago when Siri and all these assistants were introduced. Sure, it wasn't as extreme as today, but it really does show.

Uggghhh so true… i am tired of trying to explain it to people who try to convince me to “try it” but my hands work great, I still have eyes and ears. My brain is not a pile of mush and I won’t die the second I step into the woods. I am not glued to my office chair. while I do have Aphantasia which is a struggle I face in my work- it’s nowhere near enough to convince me to have an ai generate a shitty digital collage of stolen art from my favourite artists and artist friends. And even if I was paralyzed, brain dead, etc. i’d like to think I’d have enough morality to not use ai for art anyway. I get irrationality angry of course with this topic so i tend to avoid it, but we were all making swords out of paper towel rolls when we were kids, surely there are so many easy and free methods to learn, grow and experience life to input into art without being an asshole and just ripping from people without consent or payment.

Writer here and solidarity with the artists fighting these so-called "AI" image generators is my top priority. We have seen plenty of proof that that same automation is going to target us next, and it's better to fight it together now than kneecap each other and both get rolled over by the machine.

The argument that AI art somehow democratizes art is an insult to everyone's intelligence. Democratize doesn't mean giving everyone the false ability to do something with no work or learning of skills. You cannot democratize reading and writing by taking the need and means to learn reading and writing away from people. Similarly with art, which isn't just about producing images, but is literally a form of visual communication. Removing the need to learn the principles and fundamentals of illustration doesn't democratize art, it makes art less accessible. AI will only make it harder and harder for new budding artists to learn how to make the art they want to make, feeling like their work will never live up to the predetermined standards set by AI's trends, and will never be seen or recognized amongst the ocean of AI generated garbage filling up the internet. Even more insulting, is the arguement this democratization will make art more accessible to those with disabilities, as well as to marginalized groups. This shows a complete lack of knowledge or care about the issue. These AI evangalists don't get a shit about disabled people. Disabled people and their caretakers have invented many ways allow them to make their art. AI was never and will never be one of these methods, as you can't make art with AI.

Ai really is just imitating real art.

adding onto the argument of ai taking over other positions, if ai takes over medical fields such as neurologists (i think) that diagnosis people with things such as but not limited to bpd, autism, adhd, did, ect, there could be so many inaccurate diagnosis’ because ai’s wouldnt be able to comprehend and understand what those people are going through. whereas a real person would either be able to relate or not. and a real person would help a person get to fully understand what they are going through. An ai cannot go through an experience as a person due to so many factors, and feelings humans go through.

The biggest issue as you mentioned, is that artists and general creatives are the 1st ones to be targeted, they always were the 1st people to be targeted later on it will be everybody else and thats when people realise the issue and realise "Oh crap it was right there". Also the general devaluation of art helps promote the idea that ai is better.For example, in 2022 my country, Greece, decided that art degrees, music, drawing, theatre, etc, were all lower value or similar value to a hs diploma. I see a lot of Greeks stating that "Oh ai is better artists are useless etc" which sucks. Not because the degrees are now useless but also because it discourages creativity, thinking outside the box, making something, expressing yourself. Idk what the future hold but I'm scared that I will never see my dreams become a reality :(

If AI was only limited as a tool, that's one thing. But if people want to replace actual artist how worked for many years on their skills, craft, etc. good luck having a TV show/movie/commercial with the most unholiest visuals you will ever seen.

Ai art is completely banned at my school. It's considered plagiarism and if you get caught plagiarizing, you WILL be expelled.

As a young artist im agreed with you

Great video! AI only gives access to those priviliged with affordability to have access to subscriptions and/or high-end computer hardware. Creative democratization is a pencil and paper.

Fuck AI. I refuse to use it. also the mention of 'wild thunder last night', as someone who lives in the same city, I know what thunder you're talking about and damn, that thunder was wild.

The foundational point of copyright is to make sure those who do work have priority to economic reward for the work they do, to reward and encourage hard work creativity and ingenuity. AI art takes other people's work and uses it in a way that it threatens to destroy that reward for the original creators' work and rewards other people for those original creators' hard work instead. That's the opposite of democracy and the opposite of fair use. Eventually AI will get better and be able to do this to anyone's work. Either we decide it's theft or we throw away copyright laws entirely since AI will eventually backdoor it into being entirely pointless.

I think we should call it AI imagery. It is an image. Not art.

What really bothers me is that none of the AI Simps are actually having any remote thoughts about what the end game of this great automation is. What do we do in a world where everything is done by machines? If it's okay to replace artists because they "dOnT mAtTeR aNyWaYs", none of us matters in the long run and that is pretty depressing imo.

I don’t want to live in a world where everything is done by AI. It sounds cold and depressing as fuck.

If people don't want to learn anything or have any real talent or skills in anything, I say leave them be and let life screw them over.

Engineers and doctors make our lives easier and longer, but artists make our lives more enjoyable. Think about this every time you listen to your fav song, watch a good movie, an awesome anime, read a great book, play a video game...

after all the movies abt ai taking over we STILL do this?! like omg.

The music business has a similar problem with autotune, and it might be even worse because pitch correction to a perfect tone takes away the human feel of a performance in a noticeable way.

You know it's a good day when a duchess Celestia video drops

"Ai lets everyone do art!" Everyone could already do art to begin with??? All you have to do is draw something. It doesn't have to be a masterpiece, you just have to make it. It's still art either way.

Call me a boomer but I miss when we worried about AI taking repetitive jobs like factory machinery and running stores. But of all things to aim for, why the arts? Why the things that historically have required the most "human" touch?

I do hate that AI had to start out so strong with smearing art value. Why couldn't AI open up with something... helpful... not faux creative?

Did you watch wall e? The facts that humans are gonna be more chubby and lazier because they rely on robots. We are gonna be wall e irl.

It's so strange how us humans are ruining our own future. We've advanced so far in technology that we might all end up jobless eventually. It's pretty scary.

We're seeing it with the writers and actors strikes, people don't care about art because to them, it's a HOBBY. They indulge in art, movies, shows, books, in their downtime from their day job. They enjoy the final product and judge how easy it was to create because it was so easy to consume, and therfore, they feel entitled to art "the artist would just be making anyway".

I really hope we just stop with AI

[⚠️TW: talk of unaliving.⚠️]. I seriously feel that if the world is taken over by AI as in it taking all our jobs I would just kms. Like what would my purpose even be any more? Why should I be a writer singer and artist if people don’t value it enough to pay me fair wages and would rather have AI do it?

Even with ai art I believe that human made art will still hold some value, simply because it was made by a human with a passion for creating art.

I strongly agree everything they said in the video. This needs to stop.

What is you guys' opinion on animation studios possibly using ai to create the in-betweens of their animation to speed up their process? 🤔(I am an AI hater, but I do like it for making some processes just a bit easier rather than fully taking it over)

i've been drawing for 7 years now and just this year i've gotten to the level where i'm happy with my art and AI art just pisses me off i hate AI with a burning passion i learned how to draw because of my friends they inspired me and with AI ppl can't be inspired or want to learn art

So many of these arguments are also used to justify piracy. I am a writer and draw for a hobby. People have said to me it is okay for them to download e-books for free because they wouldn't have purchased them anyways. But they still feel entitled to have them. I used to say "then you shouldn't have it" but I your point why is really good tbh

I plan to go back to 1993, when art was art. 30 years ago. 😎💜

Minor addendum: I disagree that the immorality stems *_entirely_* from the non-compensation of living artists; arguably, if the same AI was the result of training it entirely on non-surviving, non-contemporary artists, and it still produced the same kind of results, it would still really be depriving artists of the capacity to find a niche in the market. The immorality exists *_even in absentia_* of what's basically art theft, it's just that the latter made it so much worse.

Art gets democratized every day and has been for maybe a hundred years or so. Art has been democratized ever since everyone could afford a box of pencils and a stack of papers. Yet still, it gets MORE democratized. We now have digital completely free and accessible ways to paint paintings, make animations, or even render 3D models. Or even better, we now have an infinite depth of resources on HOW to learn how to do any of these things. Anybody of any social status or background can get into art if they so choose, and more complex things will become democratized. AI isn't that. Simply because you're not making the drawing. The AI is making the drawing. "AI artist" is an oxymoronic name, and real artists will always have their place. Well, let's just hope the employers can agree with that, which they won't.

This isn't relevant to the topic at hand, but I wanted to say that your art is always improving and this image especially is stunning. Keep making gorgeous art!

:p ai sucks, yeah

Well-said, and you laid out a lot of excellent points about people devaluing art/artists tying into why they're okay with grabbing whatever AI generates instead. I wanted to share my idea for why that "democratizing art" defense is, in my humble opinion, about neither art as a skill OR art as a product, but about art as a TALENT. In my several decades as an artist, I've realized that there are two kinds of people: ones who have some idea how to make art/have educated themselves a bit, and ones who cannot wrap their heads around it and think artists just make beautiful work appear like magic. The latter type of person tends to think of art not as a skill that can be learned, but as a talent, one that some people just have and some people do not. 100% of the people I've met who think artistic skill = inherent talent so far are people who are not artists, themselves, and who think that art is "easy" for people like me. They don't seem to acknowledge the decades of work I've done to get to where drawing looks "easy." Anyway, I think these are the sorts of people who think AI image generation is making art "accessible" to all, because they see being born with artistic talent as some innate ability that they were skipped over for, and being able to AI generate images makes them feel like an unfair situation where they were denied something artists got at birth has been equalized. Like artists have a privilege over them because they were born talented. This same attitude could explain why many people who can't make art don't want to pay anything for it, either-they think the innately talented artists can just whip up an art piece with ease and no work, so why should they pay much when it was so easy for the artist? I've absolutely seen the attitude that charging a lot for your art is arrogant, because you're somebody who can easily create artwork and you're holding that over the heads of people who were unfortunate enough not to be "born with art talent", so it makes you the bad guy for wanting to be paid decently since they genuinely do not believe that YOU had to work for that art ability. They think you just have it, not that it's a skill you worked your butt off for. I'm not saying this is all people who think AI image generation = "making art accessible to all", but I've met this sort of person time and again throughout my life, and it sure lines up with the attitudes I'm seeing about AI. It may also provide a reason why AI fans can also think it's no big deal to scrape billions of art pieces to train the AI generators, because they might secretly think artists are getting a "taste of their own medicine" by having others suddenly be able to "easily make art" like these people think artists have always been able to as an innate talent. Sorry for the essay, thanks for the video!

“now everyone can do art”. no. everyone CAN. ALREADY do art. What these people really mean is “lazy people can now conjure up the type of art profit-chasers consider sellable and algorithm pleasing without years of actually BEING an ARTIST and honing skill”.

AI has not democratized art, it has comodified it.

As someone with very limited artistic ability, I will always appreciate actual human art more than machine generated images. The effort and passion that go into art is what makes it impressive to me. It's the same way I respect professional chess champions for being as good as they are at chess, despite almost all of them losing to computers.

But anyone can do art! Literally, just read Making Comics by Lynda Barry. Your drawings don't need to be 'good' to be art!

okay but I came here to comment on the thumbnail and title cause??? Everyone could make art if they wanted to anyway wtf is the comment talking about, how can you democratise smth that's already available to literally everyone, even cavemen could draw

The entitlement bit really got to me. You explained something I’ve been trying to process for a while, but couldn’t find the words for. Why do people feel no shame in just stepping over each other to get what they want? Art, Education, Politics, you name it. No one cares about the consequences their actions have on others, so long as it furthers their own life. And then when those consequences inevitably happen, no one knows why. I see people complaining about how trashy movies and shows are getting now, but then get hyped over AI. Why can’t they connect the dots?

Imagine walking up to a barista at Starbucks and saying you want a Frappuccino even though you have no money. You’d be laughed out of the store. And we can and should start laughing and shaming people who are pro ai

I just hope the whole ai art thing is just a trend and hope that these people will get bored and move onto the next trending thing like the nft stuff. But then again they are two different things so who know at this point

To all the ai bros in the comments... What do you think will happen when AI is used to replace designer and cars are gonna have wheels on the roof? Art is not something unnecessary, who do you think is designing cars? Houses? Computers design? Artists

This video is great. Furthermore, artists are behind much of the media people consume DAILY. Feeling entitled to art but not willing to value it means people dont deserve entertainment either. They fail to realize that.

Here’s the thing with AI, they can only predict the predictable and and are programmed to react to predictable events. But an AI unlike a human are never programmed to handle the unpredictable. Say you have an AI flying a plane, they can only react to emergencies that are common and known how to handle. But say something like the Reeve Aleutian Airways Flight 8 incident happens where the propeller flies off and slices the belly of the plane and the flight controls, would an AI know how to react in that specific situation? Or like the AI surgeon, what if during a surgery it is discovered that the patient has a rare disorder that completely changes the entire way the procedure needs to be done? Would an AI know how to act in that very specific situation that they were not programmed to do? No, only a human would be able to know exactly what needs to be done in that specific scenario because they as a human actually knows what is going on, and what needs to be done. Hopefully this makes sense

I blame a part of this ai problem is the unstable mess of the economy and inflation. Like if the economy is good and fair, people will pay artist more for art.

calling someone’s argument “non biodegradable” is so funny lol. It’s like saying that bad take is going to stick with them forever and it’s never going away

Ai art is bad

So I don't know what exactly that "Democratize" means in this context, so I don't have an opinion about AI art calling it that BUT lots of your arguments seem really flawed to me (in the sense that they are hypocritical/double standard-y) If I understood correctly,, "democratize" means to make available/accessible for the general public, and for example tutorials (video/website/etc) already does that. But, only because on thing is doing it, doesn't mean the other thing is also doing the same? (not saying it is, just questioning it) 5:26 agree, ppl who don't do art are not artists. So if the AI does art, the AI is an artist. (not the person giving the commission/idea (aka prompts)) 5:55 I'd argue there are a lot more jobs that are not (at least in the near future) automatable. Only because those task might include things as plumbers and the ppl that change a light bulb on a tower that signal to planes, and those tend to be the "not so desirable jobs" doesn't mean there are none. Also, it doesn't take away from anyone to be able to learn or do art. You can still do it. Or what? Are you now getting lazy because you might not be able to do it for money? 6:34 yea it might be. probably also was when the "industrial revolution" happened. ppl adapted and kept living tho. im not sure if you are talking about "art as an artist" or "art as a worker(job)". 6:55 disagree. The aai is only the tool to do what ever idea (creativity?) the one putting in the prompt has. Skill, technique, knowledge etc has nothing to do with creativity. 7:07 disagree, there is no need for creativity to create art. (tho might be a question of the definition of art). 8:32 thin line with that "entitlement" topic. first of all, I agree younger generation feel entitled to have everything available for free. (which was not your point/waht u said, just sayin'). BUT I am asking you, how many "free" things do you actually use without paying or working FOR it? RU-vid maybe? did you ever use google? alt he information you find on the internet? Did u ever go out and learn all those things? research them? made physics or chemical experiments to get "basic information"? or do you exclusively use paid services to get any information at all. Even like, weather forecast?. Entitlement is also, feeling entitled to make money off of a skill you have learned (aka art in this case). Even if there is AI, noone is stopping you from doing art. If you are good enough in art(and marketing probably?), you may even continue to make money with it. If not, I guess time to "not be lazy" and learn something new, to make money in another way. 8:57 by that logic, if I have a nail that needs hammering in, but i don't have a hammer at hand. Instead of using the next best object in range to hammer it in, i should go through the the trouble of going out, spending money on a hammer, going back and using the hammer instead (instead of being creative and using something available to me). 9:50 with that logic: if you are unable to (aka to lazy to learn) all the necessary skills to make all the tech required and code all the code required, to create a video hosting platform (including internet, servers, hardware, software, etc.) then whatever you have to say/show, should not be on the internet at all. Since you are to lazy to learn all the tech stuff, the best you might be able to do, is go to your local market place and shout what ever you have to say in public. Maybe take a bell with you, if you have learned how to make one, so you are qualified to use it to garner attention. 9:37 I rly find it harsh that use "aren't willing" and "lazy". there are tons of reasons why something CANNOT be done or learned. but I guess I shouldn't be talking, I'm also harsh x: 11:47 agree, if u want a service, u have to pay for that service accordingly. But you can also chose who you want to the service from. If one prefers AI X art over your art, then that's that. If my budget only allows AI X art and now urs, than thats that. If whatever fits my needs better than your service, then I will chose the other one. If I want to drink I quick coffee, I will gladly chose the one gotten by clicking on a button, than one where a woman first has to do the beans, and boil the water, and let it drip and what not, until i get my coffee. So if you don't want to be replaced by automation, than whatever you offer needs to be better (can be quality, can be price/quality ration, whatever it is) more attractive, than whatever AIs can do. If not, u might need to learn new, different skills. Ya know, similar to, how the ppl who got replaced by machines in factories, are now the ones repairing the machines, or so. 12:34 this sounds super salty in my opinion. but lets compare. so, are you not using a plane, but swimming to the other side of the earth instead, because you did not do anything to learn about planes and flying and everything needed? or is the argument "well i paid for the ticket". So if someone pays for an AI art gen subscription, they also pay for it, no? or heck, if they pay someone for AI art on fiverr, they also bought it no? 12:56 u mean the team of animators that is generally underpaid/overworked and drops dead? 13:53 so TLTW, you don't feel needed anymore? 14:03 By that logic: artists within for example anime and game studios are required to draw in a certain style and draw pre determined things, that has nothing to do with creativity and "what is what a human artist is" nothing more than "factory" work in the end. also commissions make u also not an artist anymore, as someone else tells u what to draw 14:21 even if 2 ppl with the same skills and experience see the same thing, they won't necessarily see the same thing. And considering such a 100% matchup isn't possible anyways, so that doesn't exist in the first place. Also an artists "intention" and whatever they wanna express and what not doesn't mean shit to the general public/layman anyways. even before AI art, who cared about the purpose of that sunflower of van gogh? almost noone. Majority of ppl are only interested in the end product. Is it aesthetically pleasing? useful for whatever they need it for? affordable? etc. TLDR: Entitlement goes both ways and I prefer applying the same rules equaly. So I disagree with a lot things you said, purely on a logical basis.

One good thing AI art is doing: with how much "aesthetic" art it is churning out, our drive to consume less traditional creations will grow. Being that art is not about how good it looks, realistically, but about how it resonates with people. People will adopt less "pretty" styles soon enough, and have a better grasp of protection over web scraping before that even, and a new movement will fill in the gaps where AI art will no longer be able to plunder. Adversity has always had this effect on art. We haven't given up on it for the entire time humanity has existed, and I don't think anyone will stop now.

studying art and learning to draw has changed the way I look at things, I look for vanishing points now, before knowing what they even were, I didn't pay attention to a horizon, it was just part of the picture, and the more I look the more details I can see, AI art would not give you that knowledge, it would just give you the answer to a match question because its a computer program, it thinks with numbers and ratios, not with shapes and colors. You can kind of learn from ai art only if you understand the fundamentals of art and know that it was taking other artists' skills into its creation Also yeah, nobody cares about creatives, they never have and never will, only when the elites pay big money and show a product people only care about the product.

Anyone can already make art. That's the beauty of art. If you made something, even a stick figure, it's good art because it's yours. You made it. That's a lot more rewarding than watching an AI spit out a result in 20 seconds.

Would you play an AI generated game? Probably not. Would you watch an AI generated movie? Fuck no, I bet. Why is drawn art any different? Say no to the machines!

Artists have been screwed for centuries, it's nothing i'm not used to.

I couldn't agree more. I've been drawing since I was a child, art was always democratized, everyone has a paper and a pencil at home, if those AI bros weren't lazy they could've just went get a pencil and watched a video and they would've learned! I recently entered an art college and before entrance I was so fucking scared that I would feel remorce and end up without a job because of what's happening with AI, I can't say that this feeling haven't gone away but, being surrounded with other artists and seeing how hard we work everyday made me more motivated to keep on creating. Even if everyone ends up using AI, I as an artist will always keep on making art even if it means I'm the only one making it Thank you for sharing your opinion so openly, it really helps to see other people fight against AI

If somebody went to an artist and said “hey i have __ idea!” and the artist draws it, does that make the person with the idea art? no! Also also whats happening with jobs is like this quote: First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out-because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. -Martin Niemöller

I think the fundamental problem with automating everything using AI is that when there's less jobs lest for people to do, the only way to make money is to already have things. But you also can't run an economy on just owning things, as this would lead to a severe imbalances between rich and poor that's not possible to overcome without some sort of interference, whether by government or other means. You can already see this gap widening and at some point the economy is going to fall into that hole. The question is just when it'll finally happen.

problem with ai art is how it usually takes artist's art without consent, or is posted without the mention of it being ai. ai art can be genuinely helpful with the PROCESS of creation (getting an idea of what something could look like, general inspiration, among others) but a lot of times, people will just post it and claim it is theirs also- art doesn't need to be "democratized", art isn't an object for the elite, you just have to try, even if it's bad. if you aren't satisfied, the only thing you can do is keep learning. it's the same as any skill personally, i'll always prefer human services over robots. it may not be as fast, or efficient, but if, per say, i commission something from an artist, i'll feel more happiness from the fact that someone personally took time out of their life to do it, while a robot will just do it, there's no soul to it

Art was already democratized when tutorials, art tips and etc were made free for everyone to use. Democracy means to give power to the people. When art lessons became free for everyone to use, we ordinary people now have the power to make art and improve it. Artists are people who make art and anyone can make art by learning.

i am not skilled at drawing but i am learning, not because i think that i will be able to create art faster, or better than ai, but because i feel like it and i want to be able to have absolute control of the art that i create, not just a few words, that are then interprited by a stastical machine

weird how people enjoyed artists work for centuries and now they are turning back and even insulting them sometimes

The most disgusting thing I see with the popularization of ai image generators is the decay of culture. It's replacing artists, it's replacing voice actors (taking a valuable part of their identity, their voice), it's replacing writers, actors, coders, heck it's even starting to replace lawyers who specialize in contracts where they're being hired to write contracts to feed the machine that is supposed to take their job. And worst of all it's literally weakening culture. The basis of human cultural development has ALWAYS been through telling stories, something that most people aren't doing anymore. It's essentially programing younger generations to stop using critical thinking. And that's a dangerous and depressing concept to think about. All for the sake of a corporate tech bubble to line the pockets of shareholders. What a world.

I actually have a character in a set for a series who developed an thereapy AI of sorts, but ultimately decided against distributing it to the public out of remembering that human psychology isn't as straightforward or simple as an AI could end up thinking it to be. While he didn't scrap the AI he had created, he just kept it around to help him with his daily life(reminders of meetings, when people should be visiting and why, and general daily stuff to list some things).

I think at ai is a tool that should exist if its ethical there is nothing wrong with that accept its isn't ethical right now I don't say we as artists should get replaced but with new jobs taken there's always others created I am mainly mad on people who are just too lazy to fucking learn

AI is so infuriating, and it's especially annoying how people seem to get so big-headed about it. It's fun to mess with, don't get me wrong, and good for art studies, but it honestly sucks if you're trying to get into the creative industry. Also, great video Glue Best Filibuster!

Its really weird and kinda ironic how in the past everyone thought ai and robots would replace all the blue collar workers and arts would never be capable of being touched cuz people couldnt imagine machines ever doing art. Yet here we are, and art is the first industry facing the actual threar of being replaced. Because like you said, people dont really see art as something important enough to protect. Bc yeah, most people really do care more about the end product more than the process.

I'ma be honest, a big part of me wants the acceleration to not slow down or halt, it wants it to reach it's logical conclusion in the fastest span possible, even better if it's within a year, so the consequences of the actions that the ideallistic techbros are trying to achieve are met with the reality that utopia can NEVER be achieved, no matter the model they use because of human nature, they're way too blindsided by both greed and lack of foresight to see the bigger picture. I'm just...tired of everything happening, that's just all.

Artists aren't the first people to be targeted with loss of job from automation. Engineers have massively lost jobs from other people reverse engineering their design and selling it, but Engineers are also given additional work being the ones who automate. I don't think fighting against automation is a battle worth fighting, you'll just lose. It's better to learn to use automation to your advantage even if you don't like it, it's here. You will only win if you learn to adapt to the new environment and use automation yourself. As a mechanical designer with a BS degree in Industrial Technology, I've always hated that I'm expected to only make minor improvements on existing designs instead of being allowed to produce my own designs, but when working for other people, If I expect to get paid, I have to give them what they want.

I swear AI art makes me wanna quit just as much as my own parents

I wish both side can stop making effort arguments and focus on other points. Low effort >>>> high effort is pretty much an objective fact.

This is why SAG/AFTRA and WG are striking too. With you all the way, and you are an eloquent speaker! My first RU-vid of yours, definitely won’t be my last!

AI "art" has really been a blow to my creative side. Many many times I just wonder what's the point anymore and I've been drawing for all my life. I loved it, but every time I go online to see what other people have made, I see so much AI garbage and I feel my chest tighten and all motivation to improve just goes out the window. I hate it so much. Art is supposed to be something that cultures share with one another, it's supposed to be something to bring people together with their interests. But AI is hollow...and makes me lose more hope in the future of humanity. Artists are going to lose their jobs because businesses are going to want to use cheaper methods, and what's cheaper than AI? And art is only the surface, machines are taking over the job force and there's no way to stop it. I can only imagine that in the future the only jobs humans are going to be able to have are jobs that involve repairing robots or AI, which could eventually be self-sufficient. I realize this is a huge "conspiracy theory" crap thing. But it just seems more and more plausible with how much we're replacing the things that humans love to do..

The people promoting this stuff have absolutely 0 foresight. You’re dead right about losing human connection in the modern world.. it’s a sad situation.

I totally agree. You're preaching to the choir. This whole AI situation poses a frightening precedent for the future...

It's so frustrating, it feels kind of impossible to do anything about it too which is horrible. People are pretty heartless towards eachother they just don't care until it affects them. It bothers me that art is not valued they say it's talent and ignore the practice. I've had people say, Oh I wish I had time for that. When they go out drinking, go on dates, watch netflix and have extra work shifts to pay for brand name products. If you dropped a few of those things you'd have time for it too... I just choose to prioritise different things. Everyone always just expects you to draw stuff for them too and have no idea the effort that actually goes into it..😓

I don't really agree with the entitlement argument. If something is given or sold to you, you are entitled to it. Full stop. The problem is that the ai creator doesn't have the right to sell or give ai art to you, because they stole the art the ai was trained on.

I feel like the reason people turn to AI is the bullying of online spaces has gotten worse. They believe artists are evil and just trying to drag them down instead of uplift them since that's how some spaces are (TikTok, I'm looking at you-). But really, what we need to encourage is allowing people to make mistakes in art, and that even little doodles and even stick figures are art, while showing them things they can implement to slowly improve over time. Really, it is just that: making art "unattainable" because of ageism and "skill issue" mentality. It sucks its come to this. I even stopped drawing for the longest time cause no one irl and online seemed to care, until I found the fun in it again.

I don’t comment much but I feel you, I am young and I aspire to be an artist I wanted to be an animator so much I know I’ll never make it due to AI, everything will be AI when I get old enough I assume and I think it will ruin everyone I agree fully with you and hate how people say such things, I personally changed my art style to a simpler one that I can do faster purely so I have a unique style from AI I also kinda feel like it should start to normalize simpler art just so we artists don’t get confused for AI