Thank you Vaughan for your steadfast stand for biblical orthodoxy - we pray for you regularly, not least because we have a family member attending St Ebbes.
There's more to faithful Christianity than biblical orthodoxy. There are two ways to sin against God - to welcome his word without welcoming his Spirit (Pharisaism - John 5:39) and to welcome God's Spirit without welcoming his word (liberalism - John 14:15). You must raise your standard - you must require this channel and the presenter - and Sydney Anglicans - and the Church of England - to not just welcome God's word but also welcome God's Spirit - or otherwise be guilty of Pharisaism.
@@philipbenjamin4720, don’t know what you mean. Where are you coming from? ? Same sex is an abomination. One man , one woman ,Marriage - all else is sin.
I am going to say something that will probably get me strung up on the nearest lamp post: Why is it that when women take over the leadership of churches, the theology goes awry? I have seen this happen in the Methodist church, and now in the Church of England. It is something I have observed in my lifetime - and I am a woman.
As a fellow woman I agree with you! It’s a complicated issue and probably depends on the level of leadership. For instance, consider such eminent women in the past as Hildegard of Bingen who successfully headed a convent of women. People call for Welby’s resignation but without realising that the next Archbishop could be worse! Probably a woman also. God save us all!!
I have observed the same thing, and my take on this is this is what 1 Tim 2 is designed to prevent. Eve was deceived when Adam wasn't. I don't think this means Christian women are intrinsically more likely to be deceived than men, I have known women with tremendous amounts of discernment. It becomes a problem when combined with exercising authority. This does seem to make women more vulnerable to spiritual attack and deception, and it often occurs when men have abdicated responsibility as Adam did. Going by experience when you have Mrs Vicar or Pastor you can be pretty certain that sooner or later you will find false teaching being given. It may or may not occur with men - I certainly don't want to imply men are exempt from this.
For example: I have been given a ministry from God but it is a discernment ministry to help people out of cults and false teaching but I cannot teach the Bible as a whole as I haven't got that spiritual gift as a woman. The Holy Spirit can only work with your spiritual gifts and cannot if you are in rebellion against God (quenching the Spirit)
Isaiah 5:20 (KJV) Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
I left the CoE the day after Synod approved the unholiness into the church earlier this year. Since then, I have been attending christ centred church that aligns with the word of God.
Very sad. The Church of England now cannot be described as anything but an Apostate Church. The Lord’s people, those who love and obey Jesus, need to come out of Her and join with other groups of genuine followers of the Lord Jesus.
The female‘bishop’ of London said “It’s not a creedal issue” Seriously? It is actually a scriptural issue, and therefore by default most definitely should be a creedal issue
Scripture is absolutely clear on this subject: IT should never have even come up for discussion because there is nothing to discuss. The Church of England is no longer a church as it leads people down the garden path.
It has become a daughter of the Mother. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. {2 Peter 2:22}
Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues; for her sins are heaped high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Rev 18:2b.3
If I were a member of the Church of England, I would now be certain that it is not - if it ever was - part of the one holy catholic and apostolic Church professed in the Creed.
Amen. I have indeed left the cult of England, now looking for a Solid, Bible Believing, Male Teachers only, Unrepentant Abomination Forbidding , Anglo-Presbyterian (Reformed (Five Points of Grace, Five Solas and holding to One of the Reformed Confessions as well as Several the Reformed Creeds) or Bust!) COFEC or Evangelical Connexion Church instead.
A great video on a very sad topic. How can these bishops truly believe that they can commend prayers and services for what God has called sin, then preach about repentance and turning from sin? They lost their spiritual authority to minister to the flock when they compromised with the world. They have given no thought to the faithful who struggle with same sex attraction and are celibate. What an utter punch in the stomach that is for them.
That's a bit like the Musilms say, "Tell where in the Bible Jesus says, 'I'm God, worship me!' He doesn't say these precise words but his teaching is clear nonetheless. I would encourage you to reread the Bible, without blinkers and pray about it too ... LOTS!
Tragic. Disastrous and also gross heresy. This is Matthew 24. False prophets and teachers infiltrated the church and now Christianity suffers the lack of discernment that is so prolific now. Forgive us please Lord.
The Bridegroom is coming for a Bride without spot, stain or blemish.May the goodness and kindness of God lead these errant bishops to true repentance. If they will not repent, let another take their place. For those who are suffering, as Vaughan said, 'no crumbs of comfort,' may the Lord Jesus grant them the knowing Him in the fellowship of His sufferings. "And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good, for those who are called according to His purpose."esv
God bless you Vaughan and Ed, praying hard for you. God bless also the Most Rev Dr Laurent Mbanda for his wonderful statement on the Synod's decision of 15.11.
The Bishop off London seemed to be smug and boastful in comparing her position to support these blessings as if it were the same as Jesus having dinner with the tax collector. But she is wrong. The church has always reached out to the gay community and there is no need to bring in these new same sex blessings. The Church is under attack from the far left to try and change it into a secular religion and so remove the truth of Jesus and his Sovereignty. May God have mercy of the CodE leadership.
There is *No such thing* as a woman bishop! A woman "pastor" even, let alone a woman bishop, is *Unbiblical* , it is *utter Defiance* against God to allow a woman to teach in church or hold a position of authority over a man! for it is a Defiance of 1st Corinthians Chapter 14 and 1st Timothy Chapter 2. That means she is a *Heretic* in holding a Position that is *not permitted for her* , and a Heretic can only teach Heresy! I know this quote is from a Confessional Reformed Baptist, but, given Archbishop J.C. Ryle deeply admired another Confessional Reformed Baptist of his Day for his Christian verity (I refer to Charles Haddon Spurgeon, the "Prince of Preachers") , it should be ok to use.. "if your church has a woman pastor, then you have neither a pastor nor a church" -John. F. MacArthur. Same as there is *no such thing* as a "Gay Christian", Christians who *were* Gay (but are now Celibate in Christ) before they were Saved, and that Sin was washed away with all the others, past, present, and future, in the Holy, Divine, Innocent, Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ, the God-Man, our Lord and only Saviour, shed upon the Cross to Purchase the Eternal Salvation of His Elect, Yes, most assuredly! , but *No* "Gay Christians", for how can we who are Dead to Sin wear Sin as an Identity? it means they are Unrepentant, and thus *Unsaved* ! Do I Despise them?, No, I have a friend who is "pan" and I have begged with many Tears in Prayer, that, if it be His will, God will draw her to Christ, Deliver her from that Sin, and Save her Eternally with the Precious Blood of Christ Crucified and Risen. That is Love.... but I also know God will only do so, if He elected to draw her to Christ before the Foundation of the world. But I would not welcome her into my church until she had repented, believed the Gospel, and become Eternally Saved, proven by her becoming Separate and Celibate.
As a UK Baptist Church member and a millennial, I am saddened by what we’re seeing and very much am inspired by the likes of Vaughan and Ed Shaw. What they say is true and right to what the Bible says. I have researched, read, heard different perspectives but still cannot reconcile same sex marriage with God’s word. I hold on knowing that God is sovereign in all of this.
"Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the LORD's vengeance; he will pay her what she deserves.
I find it hard to understand how anyone can speak of 'staying with integrity' in a Church whose senior leadership have so clearly lost their way. Even if provision is made for orthodox priests/parishes to operate under the oversight of an orthodox bishop, who oversees the bishop? One of the two clearly apostate archbishops. And there is also the issue of the 'optics'. However orthodox a priest may be he and his parish will still be part of a national church that has surrendered to the woke culture. Outsiders will not easily see, let alone understand, the differences. For the sake of the Gospel outreach of the Church there needs to be VERY clear water between truth and heresy.
Mathew 23 vs 13 then JESUS said "woe unto you,scribes and pharisees, you hold the keys to the kingdom of heaven, but because you cannot enter, neither suffer them that are entering to go in, come out from among them my people, and do not share in the bowls of GODS WRATH BEING PREPARED FOR THE UNGODLY, AMEN
Thank you for this post; I deeply empathize with you in the agony of your struggle. I was a devoted and contented Anglo-Catholic ("High Church Anglican") here in the United States (Pennsylvania) when the Episcopal Church USA went through this exercise of trashing itself in the 1980s. Our parish, the Cathedral parish of the diocese, had it all: historic building, great endowment, its own school, outstanding music program, an international congregation, and Dean and two Priests. And then they shot themselves in the foot with the homosexual agenda. We were raising three boys at the time and did not want them around that rot, so we fled and cancelled our pledge. Thank goodness, there was an Orthodox church available (this one happened to be a mission parish of the Orthodox Church of America, rather than one of the several Orthodox jurisdictions allegiant to a foreign administration,) and we nested there. We were received with open arms (the congregation was 75% comprised of souls who had fled their former churches because of craziness, e.g. the Roman Catholic Church,) although I was unaware of the close relationship which had existed between the Anglicans and the immigrant Orthodox dispora which had come to America a century and a half ago. I still offer as part of my daily orations many prayers learned from the BCP decades ago. My advice to anyone caught in this soul-destroying malestrom is: Just get out and do not subject your soul and your psyche to the abject, destructive misery which this experience will bring upon you. The inner struggle will destroy you. (The destruction of good people is always the intent of the Evil One, is it not...?) May God have Mercy upon us all as we seek to do what is right and find peace with our Creator. +
This is one thing that draws me to Orthodoxy. It will be a cold day in hell before the Patriarchs allow blatant, unrepentant sexual immorality in their church.
I genuinely feel sorry for you guys. Trying to be Christian in what is obviously a non-christian institution. The C of E is frankly an embarrassment. I thank God daily that I dumped this phoney church many years ago and that He lead me into the fullness of the Christian faith and the true church… The Holy Orthodox Church. You know, that Church which wrote the Bible, compiled the Bible, formulated the creeds, realised the truth the trinity and holds fast to the apostolic faith. ☦️
So obeying God’s word is clearly not important. This is what happens when you make compromises with the truth . The fact she is considered clergy was a step in this direction.
Vaughan, Ben John during his short speech mentioned the ministry of XOutLoud, a group of previously same-sex attracted people who have found FREEDOM in establishing their total identity in Christ. It might be something for you to look into.
I am a 72 year old male, and I am old enough to remember when there were specific roles by which men and women lived their lives. It was called ' normal ' Unfortunately ' normal ' has always been attacked and redefined over many decades. There once was a time when ' absolutes ' were accepted as normal. Today, the majority of people do not accept that there are absolutes. Today, the majority of people decide within themselves what is normal or absolute. The bible says that a time will come when people decide what is right and what is wrong. As far as absolutes are concerned, we can look no further that what the 10 commandments say. Thy shall not.....is an absolute. God's word, the bible knows nothing about compromise. As Genesis says, both male and female did God create. They were created to complete one another. They were created to fit together for the purpose of pro-creation. This is marriage. Same-sex relationships, by nature cannot fit together. This is not marriage, however you believe. Worldly humanism has infiltrated the church, and it has seduced believers into thinking that it is biblical. It is not. Those who reject God's word must by nature of the case also reject Christ. The Gospel of John chapter 1 we read that " the word has become flesh " To reject the word is to reject Christ. These so called Christians are not Christians as defined biblically. At best they are " nominal christians " Christians in name only, putting on an worldly outward display, that confuses unbelievers. Yes, there is a ' normal ' and there are ' absolutes '. You will find them in true Christians, not nominal christians. The former are the sheep. The latter are the goats. That is an absolute.
This is incredible! Dearest Jesus have MERCY on the whole world! Just awful... as a Catholic we who are active are also facing a ' Synod on Synodality' which is an oxymoran in and of itself! The mushy middle is sick. Its more and more obvious that the WORLD IS IN END times . This IS NOT CHRITIANITY!!!!!!!! it is SIN
I think you're being incredibly gracious in your approach towards what is an affront against God. I've seen Justin Welby's stance on this whilst also observing him celebrating Diwali which is also entirely counter scripture. I look at the Apostle Paul and his approach. This is a different gospel and Justin Welby and those following his lead will stand before God with this.. The CofE has been steadily eroding the clear, simple (but challenging) gospel for many years now but there has been a noticeable 'acceleration' in recent years away from orthodoxy. Whatever we do, we must put God's holy word 1st and all worldly concerns / considerations second.
Very sorry to see my brothers and sisters in Christ have to experience this heartbreak. Once we've turned our backs upon God's word/Holy Scriptures, haven't we turned our backs as well to God the Father and spat upon the perfect sacrifice of His Son? If we don't believe His word, then spiritually there's nothing left to reject. May the Lord help us all. May you all find a church home that honors the inerrancy of God's divinely-inspired Holy Scriptures.
I was raised in the Canadian Anglican church. At Confirmation they taught the theory of the gospel but failed to mention that I needed to repent and trust in Jesus as my personal Saviour. No one is saved by going to a church. This church went off the rails with social justice and rejecting the Bible, including female pastors teaching men, many decades ago. I am female. Also, the church was founded in fornication and adultery so it's back to its origins endorsing sexual sin. Sola scriptura!!
While agreeing with the views of VR and of this channel, I am concerned about something. Given what is going on around us, with overt anti-Semitism erupting in most Western societies, there are powerful spiritual forces battling. I've been reading about Germany during the 1930s. From what I've read, about two-thirds of society were in Protestant denominations, church-goers, divided into three main 'streams' (denominational groupings). Many viewed church and state as interlinked. While so much was rapidly going wrong, leading to WW2 and the genocide against the Jews, the church leaders seem to have been asleep or entirely distracted by their internal arguments about issues of morality and the role of the state in their churches. They completely missed the big picture, it seems, being obsessed with matters within their own denominations. I don't want to belittle what is going on inside the CofE, but am concerned about this parallel, at such a time as this.
Recently I read an article about the Bible. " Is the Bible Literal or Literature?" By Literature it seems they meant Myth. There is a wide gulf between CHRISTianity and CHURCHianity. The former holds to the Gospel once given, and the latter changes the belief system according to the World's latest trend.
The british Royal Family should abandon the Church of England. Bring in a new set of leaders who just preach and teach great doctrines of the Christian faith
POIGNANT NOTES: 1. If you are a seriously committed believer in Christ and His follower, you just cannot remain in the Church of England, which is a mixed bag and apostate. You must follow Christ and not a doctrinally compromised Church 2. The idea of being Christian and gay is an abomination. To even say things like being attracted to the opposite sex is against Scripture. I am kind of not comfortable with this Vaughan Roberts guy and his admission of being attracted to the opposite sex. This is alien to biblical teaching. The Bible does not support such nonsense 3. The few Bible believers in the Church of England should obey the Lord Jesus Christ and leave the apostate Church of England 4. How long more will those few Christians in the Church of England continue to tolerate the downgrade. They have allowed women to be ordained pastors and priests and bishops. Abomination. 5. The problem I see is these Bible believers in the Church of England are afraid of losing the benefits they are enjoying presently in the Church of England if they leave and this is what is holding them back, they are walking by sight and not by faith. I left the Church of England about 10 years ago and thank God I followed Christ and not man. Leave the apostate Church if you really believe in Christ
The Consequences of EVERY Choice - WILL be Eternal! Jesus IS separating the “Sheep from the goats’! To The Glory of God and our Risen Messiah and King - Jesus Christ!!
I looked up what the Orthodox Churches think of marriage.... It is between a man and a woman for the setting up of a family and has nothing to do with romantic love. When you look back through history that is what it always was... indeed the bride in many cultures had no say in who she would be married to, she would just be married off to a suitable man who could keep her and whose children she was expected to bear. So whether these couples are in love enough to want to live together is outside of that view of marriage. and so it is the Church view. . So don't get all Romantic. remember what Marriage is about!
4 Therefore, since through God’s mercy we have this ministry, we do not lose heart. 2 Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. 3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 5 For what we preach is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”[a] made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God’s glory displayed in the face of Christ.
We will see if thoes bishops who voted against, will go along with the decision or choose to leave the Church of England. A testing of their trust in the Word of God.
I think it is drawing toward the time where as in 1 John 3 we start asking the difficult questions. " This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are - anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God". Bear in mind that the in context of the letter we also read that if we say we are without sin we decide ourselves and the truth is not in us -;it would seem it's not talking about slips and trips for which we confess to one another and in all humility repent and receive forgiveness. No. These are people who keep on sinning, or live a life of sin, who continue in sin without remorse or repentance. The Church of England's general synod seems to have far too many like this. Weeds in the wheat.
You have all shied away from the difficult questions which is: How can I treat someone with same sex attraction differently, and deny them rights and privileges I take for granted. Hmmm?
@@ThePastorsHeart I understand that. But it would be some kind of fallacy to argue that the Church's stance on same sex attraction is ok because someone with same sex attraction somehow endorses it. In the same way, we don't give weight to a woman who might tell other women to stay at home. My simply point is that to discriminate on the grounds of sexuality is simply a moral failure - the church does this on the basis of dogma and tradition, dogma that is not supported by scripture in my view- arguments from absense, misreadings and imposing meaning. The church is guilty of harm to gay people over centuries and actually should be appologising, not entrenching. I don't expect to change your mind - I just felt someone had to say it.
@@StudentDad-mc3pu all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God including us - we don't challenge the benefit defrauders, tax evaders, prostitutes, murderers at our doors
Thank you both. Will we stand upon God's Word ? Will we obey Scripture? Will we critically address contrary teachings and ideologies which have made incursions against plain exegesis and a Biblical hermeneutic and homiletics? Feminist and neo-Marxist influences have gained ground. We need revival to come and for that we must repent and believe the Gospel, knowing to the point of despairing of ourselves, that apart from the Lord we can do nothing.(John 15:5). I agree with Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones that too many novices have been promoted over time, too much dependence upon human efforts, human campaigns and programmes. In 1959 Billy Graham pointed out that the need was for more God fearing ordinary Bible believing Christians. What would happen if we were humbled, and in contrition of soul asked for a high view of Scripture and pulpit ministry to be restored to us and that we treasure our meetings, committees and organisation somewhat less. Who has first place in our affections?
The Church of England needs to get off its secular path and return to reading and taking seriously the Bible and what God actually says. I left this mess decades ago for a Bible centred Christian fellowship and have never looked back.
The "crumbs of comfort" won't come from the Bishops or any other clergy or Church leader. The comfort comes only from trusting God's word, repenting and knowing He will show you grace. Stay living in the Word, Ed Shaw, know that God loves you and wants the best for you. The Bishops of the C of E are lost. The watering down of truth given to us by Jesus to appeal to a secular world is not leading people to salvation. Jesus said to take up your cross and follow Him, not put it down and follow the Church.
Not all the bishops are apostate. People like Andrew Watson and Jill Duff have both spoken against the heretical proposals of their fellow bishops and voted against them. They were two of the original 4 who voted against the proposals in February. Now there are 10. At this rate of change, there may soon be a majority against the Archbishops and their nonsense.
@@andysmith4158 I am Sorry, but Jill Duff is *not Permitted* to preach, let alone be a Bishop, the Bible *forbids* it! A woman *cannot* even be a lay reader, let alone a Bishop! women are *forbidden by God* from teaching men and having authority over men! Egalitarianism is *Heresy!* The women are to be *silent* in Church outside of communal prayer, hymns and psalmody, or communion vows, and they are to submit to their Husbands, or the eldest Bible believing man! They are *not* to preach or have authority! The Bible is clear on this! Only the *Reformed* (The Five Points of Grace and the Five Solas! As Commanded by the 1619 Canons of Dort!) Bible Believing *man* may Preach! As stated in the Holy Scriptures (1st Timothy Chapter 2 and 1st Corinthians Chapter 14 in Particular!), by the early founders such as st. Augustine of Hippo, in the 1646 Westminster Confession of Faith (and the 90% Identical 1689 Second London Confession of Faith for my Brothers and Sisters in the Lord who are Confessional Reformed Baptist rather than Reformed Anglican/Reformed Episcolian or Conservative Presbyterian) , and in the Reformed (95 Theses, Calvin's Institutes, 39 Articles 1571, Heidelberg, 1619 Canons, 1647 Shorter and Longer Westminster, and, either (as they are in conflict) the 1648 Westminster Standards or 1662 Book of Common Prayer) Catechisms! Which of course, Disqualifies most of the male leadership in the cult of England as well anyway as they not only permit *Abomination* in utter Defiance of the Bible, but also hold to the *damnable Heresies* of Wesleyan-Arminian-Papacist- Pelagianism and Ecumenialism in abject defiance of the 1646 Westminster Confession/1689 Second London Confession, and the Reformed Catechisms! Meaning they are, at best, *Unqualified* for Ministry, and at worst are *Unbelievers* ! We really do need another Cromwell to sort the Church and the Government back out again!
Protestantism began with some sensible criticisms of some Catholic doctrines such as indulgences and well meaning attempts to help people understand how to live lives faithful to God. At what point have Protestantism's "reforms" to traditional Christianity gone so off track that they are worse than the old church that they broke away from?
The Church of England began so that a king (Henry 8th) could marry, divorce and murder whoever he wanted. The whole Anglican Church was founded upon sins of the flesh. And yet the Church continues to moralise about sex !! Hilarious!!
It seems to me that for along time now the Church has been enveloped in a spiritual fog. God has abandoned much of the modern church and this is shown by it's decline in numbers and influence. My experience is that the growing Churches adhere to the Bible. Arch Bishop Welby is master of a sinking ship. Regards Mark
The Magical Power of Gods Pure Love through Jesus, can carry on very nicely without the leaders and this wicked doctrine, coming out of the Church Of England, these leaders should themselves know that.. evil doctrine vs the Divine and Humanity, their is only ever one outcome.. if they don't l hope this message has helped them..
The Christian Life is struggle against pride and the need for constant repentance. Do what you can to love God and your neighbor as yourself. Trust the Lord Jesus. We cannot control what others say and do. Be at peace.
Get out, be separate and repent for procrastination! The bar is so very low; the LORD is worthy of our very lives not this endless conversation. "Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, ACT LIKE MEN, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love." (1 Corinthians 16:13)
AMEN…I TREMBLE NOW FOR MYSELF…I HAVE BEEN DECEIVED IN SO MANY AREAS!!!!!!! I LONG FOR TOTAL RESTORATION FROM HORRIBLE SINS …THE EFFECTS ARE REAL…… FOLLOW THE WORD GRACE MERCY PEACE…FIXED ON JESUS
Celibacy is a vocation in and of itself, regardless of a person's sexual orientation. If a SSA person feels a call to celibacy, fine. If a hetero person feels a call to celibacy, fine. But a SSA person who "accepts" celibacy because the church says that's what they are to do is -- how to put it gently -- being too trusting. Think for yourself!
In Australia, so many Anglican priests have been unbelievers for so long that this doesn't come as a surprise. 40 years ago in our country town, the Anglican vicar said openly that Jesus wasn't God and the Devil wasn't real. He was followed by 2 others equally steeped in unbelief , especially with regard to the Bible. Denied the 1st several chapters as myth and one told me that the Muslims had their own " means of grace" and just as good as Christians. He was furious when the other local Ministers refused to have the Imam at their monthly meetings. He a.so told me that when ordained as an Anglo-Catholic he refused to sign the Articles of Faith as he didn't believe most of them. I left and joined the Baptists.
Do we need "to be gracious and full of love" in relation to leadership that is going to bless sin.? This is serious. When Jesus had told his disciples that he would be going to the cross, Peter strenuously tried to prevent him to which Jesus replied in no uncertain terms "Get behind me Satan, you are a hindrance to me, your mind is not set on the things of God but on the things of men" There are a number of instances when Jesus spoke very strongly against sin and of course there was the turning over of the money lenders' tables. Likewise Paul and John the Baptist at times spoke firmly and authoritatively There is a time to "shake off the dust from your feet" and that would be a physical action which in that day would have been seen as a strong rebuke and an act of disassociation. Being "loving and gracious" can at times not be being loving and gracious. This does not apply to those who are not as yet believers and don"t as yet believe and profess faith.
The Gospel is for all men regardless of sexuality and first and foremost the homosexual needs to hear God’s Word that A man shall not lie with another man as with a woman it is an abomination Leviticus 18:22, For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations to those who are contrary to nature. And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and one another. Men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. Romans 1:26-27. God’s wrath on unrighteousness. The Gospel clearly points out they can be forgiven as Jesus words from the cross “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.” Repentance and belief in God’s mercy and forgiveness is at the centre of the Gospel.
As a lifelong Traditional Catholic I sympathise with you, faithful followers of CofE. We Catholics are suffering great pain at the hand of the very man sitting on the Chair of Peter. Please God the day will come when the One Church, founded by Jesus Christ, will once again be One Church united in Him and following His teachings. Joyfully.
Dear friend, have you heard of Richard Bennett’s ministry the Berean Beacon? He was a Dominican priest, now with the Lord, for 20 years and was then saved by the gospel, Ephesians 2:8-9. I too was a Roman Catholic and was saved by the blood of Jesus. I would appreciate if you looked up the ministry and be challenged and blessed by it and read Ephesians 2:8-9. God bless you.
I was once a Catholic too. You can pray to Jesus directly and have a direct relationship with him by being born again. Jesus loves Catholics and doesn't want them to be deceived by men. Jesus wants a relationship with you without being mediated by man. Pray and He will lead you to all truth.
@@lastthingsministryWell said Child of God. may He bless you and keep you. God is shaking all that is not of Him in preparation for the return of His Son in spirit. These have joined the Mother Harlot Church. They shout for unity, but not unity under the Christ. Woe to them.😢
"No one comes to the Son, less the Father draw them nigh". The Father knows who his children are and who will accept the Gospel. The Scriptures tell us that in the last days, there will be a great falling away. Those who are drawn to the Son will find their way, but it is essential to preach the Gospel as it was delivered to our ancestors. The Anglican Church that holds fast to the Faith as it was delivered is worldwide and offers a home to new Christians that are the result of the Great Revival that will take place. We must make people understand that we are not part of the apostate Anglican Church aka the C of E and the Episcopal Church, USA, or any of the other Anglican churches that take their direction from these apostate leaders. I live in a small town area with three Anglican churches, two Episcopal and one ACNA, but the average person or new believer has no idea there is a difference. If a newly converted believer begins going to one of the apostate churches the result can be very negative. I find it helpful to describe myself as being an orthodox Anglican, but not Anglican Orthodox because some Eastern Orthodox believers seem to take great umbrage at my use of the word orthodox. I explain that I'm using it as an adjective, but they don't really understand.
The bible insists that we depart from the unrepentant. The bishops cannot be regarded as leaders, and as they cannot be removed then believers must leave. It is no good standing for biblical views on sex and marriage and disregarding the bible when it declares separate from the ungodly, from darkness.
The Sacramental Legacy of Matrimony in the English Church. Whatever we experience of Christian marriage with all its struggles and blessings, for better or for worse, even with its evolution over millennia, after a lifetime of the contemplation of Holy Scripture, reflecting an history far older than its settled literary Canon, a parson sees absolutely nothing that conforms with the views of 44 mitred apostates present at last week’s General Synod. Pray for the 12 Faithful Bishops at Synod! It is very curious that fusty looking prelates push such a dated liberalism upon the apostolic Church in England, whereas over 120 young ordinands, about to offer 40 years service to the Church as clergy, refuse to accept the decayed views of the aging apostates. Indeed on-line, it is curious indeed that it is young men and women of the Church that are against the unwise motion to push the Church towards changing the very nature of marriage. After a lifetime of reading the ante-Nicene and post-Nicene Fathers of the Church with most of the history of the Church from the Ecumenical Councils, up to the living Reformation of the Church, there is nothing whatsoever in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church’s teaching or customs to which we adhere that points towards the opinion of the Apostates at General Synod - other than that their opinion and votes are simply a secular and vain waywardness. Faithful Christians have no intention of handing the great Navis of the Church over to this divisive storm-tossed nonsense. We certainly will not do the apostates the satisfaction of throwing our hands up in the air and exiting the side stage of history. The United teaching and venerable custom of the Church is summed up by the Church of England as follows - in complete conformity with catholic truth and sacramental custom as handed to us from the ages, right through the Reformation and the settled living truth of the Church. DEARLY beloved, we are gathered together here in the sight of God, and in the face of this Congregation, to join together this man and this woman in holy Matrimony; which is an honourable estate, instituted of God in the time of man's innocency, signifying unto us the mystical union that is betwixt Christ and his Church; which holy estate Christ adorned and beautified with his presence, and first miracle that he wrought, in Cana of Galilee; and is commended of Saint Paul to be honourable among all men: and therefore is not by any to be enterprised, nor taken in hand, unadvisedly, lightly, or wantonly, to satisfy men's carnal lusts and appetites, like brute beasts that have no understanding; but reverently, discreetly, advisedly, soberly, and in the fear of God; duly considering the causes for which Matrimony was ordained. First, It was ordained for the procreation of children, to be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord, and to the praise of his holy Name. Secondly, It was ordained for a remedy against sin, and to avoid fornication; that such persons as have not the gift of continency might marry, and keep themselves undefiled members of Christ's body. Thirdly, It was ordained for the mutual society, help, and comfort, that the one ought to have of the other, both in prosperity and adversity. Into which holy estate these two persons present come now to be joined. Therefore if any man can shew any just cause, why they may not lawfully be joined together, let him now speak, or else hereafter for ever hold his peace.
It is important where the church come from. It has been good. The problems that face the current decade can be measured, can be discussed and moral attitudes taken. This is how Christians keep the faith. Once the church bring the background, from all over a overall mentality about such a matter can be detected. How many are scared these days, should the church change radically, would the people not shout and say, this is a false church. Best to start with their traditional and then go forward.
