No game NEEDS an easy mode 

@@Mr_Skibz a) No, even in a from software game an easy mode would not make it more accessible, if you can't perform the basic actions of the game lowering enemy health won't make it more accessible b) One button combos in fighting games would make them more accessible, but that would completely shift the focus of the game from learning and executing the combos to matchups and footwork, mixups would just be erased from the game. Fighting games are just about something that some people are incapable of. It's no different from the fact that blind people can't enjoy those "spot the differences" pictures.

Thank you, I hate how nowadays people are getting angry and their pitchforks on behalf of others who are not angry. Whether it's about disability or calling jokes or whatever offensive/racist even though the group that's supposed to be offended isn't.

+hunted4blood but this arguement isn't about you, you're just an excuse that they're using to get what they want, you're just their slave pulling their arguement. ANd it's due to their respect for you that they treat you like you're nothing but an excuse, of course. If someone says this about disabled people, and they're not disabled, i just dismiss them. If I see a disabled person talking about this, cool, but you know what? I like this game called 7 days to die, and i've gone in and modded the game to be what I want it to be, rather then expecting the dev to do this. This maynot always be possible for the average user, but most games do have mods people build for them, and most modders accept requests, so it's not that hard to make a game what you want it to be.

@Sai Tama dk if what you said is supposed to oppose what hunted4blood said but just to make sure. Not everyone is disabled in the same way. Some people are dyslexic and have trouble understanding text or other fine details and other people have high functioning autism or tremors in their hands and body. The word "Disabled" covers a massive spectrum of hundreds of thousands of disabilities. Just because one person is disabled and can play street fighter doesn't mean every other disabled person can too.

@Sai Tama Oops sorry I thought I was talking to a normal human being. Didn't realize I was responding to a Manchild I'll let you get back to your building blocks.

Robert Fullchim Ik right. I look forward to the day when all of Earth is making games not just japan , us ,and sometimes china. Poland makes my fav games

when you complain it is what? whining too. you seem to whining too.

They might in the future if they are convinced that it will increase their revenue. Which is why we, the average players, need to make sure that they understand that the minority whining about game difficulty is just that; the minority, and that the rest of us will continue buying games that are challenging and unique.

@@1brushstudio You have that backwards. The majority of people only play very casual games. There is a reason why games have become increasingly casual over the years. When you appeal to the lowest common denominator, you get more sales, because for every hardcore fan that would have played 2000 hours you lose you gain 5 casual ones that will buy the game, play for 20-50 hours then lose interest. Since 5 sales makes more money than 1, gaming companies see what to do. We who want hard/deep/complex games are not in the majority, we are in the minority, and we are fighting an uphill battle.

@@bernardeugenio Your comment is a mess, try again.

@Simon Parnell I can kind of see where you are coming from, but sport is suppose to be exciting. The fun comes from being challenging. A movie is suppose to be relaxing, something you can come home to and watch after a long day of work. So by making people do there homework before watching, it makes the whole watching experience a lot less enjoyable.

@@shaunjimbangan1166 for me its the opposite, i like films that requires knowledge that i don't know so after im done watching it the first time, i would try to google things that i don't know from the movie, i might gain few knowledge about something new and then getting mind blown by it, it feels really good. Like interstellar, god that movie really provide lots of mind blowing moments.

I dont think it works because you can still watch a movie from beginning to end even if you dont understand it. Its not like you have to pass a quiz after every scene like fighting a video game boss.

@Simon Parnell "Making games hard is more akin to making an obstacle course so tough 99% fail. Exclusive not by its abstraction but by it's design." lol filtered

@Simon Parnell No, the obstacles are already the hard game, making a game easier is removing the obstacles. At that point it is not a obstacle run, it is a sprint to the end, completely different sport.

Yeah, when a grim and cruel world feels too much like a walk in the park with the enemies being mere annoyances like mosquitoes while in that park, it ruins the feel of it. Looking at dark souls, the early game enemies can put up a bit of a fight, though not that much, and coming back later, they seem to do almost nothing because of your stats and gear. I don't want that feeling to be the whole game, it would ruin the sense of accomplishment. I respect Midir in DS3 because of how much of a challenge he is for me. If flipping on an easy mode made me deal 3x the damage, my respect would fade quickly. I would also say that I've become a rather casual gamer over the years too because of everything I've got going on, but I love for a game to let me do my thing and learn from my mistakes. Instead of removing all mistakes entirely.

That’s the argument I always use. It’s the theme of the game, dark souls should be dark souls. Uncharted should not be dark souls. When the game is about a power fantasy, having crushing difficulty kills the narrative speed. As an aside I hate dark souls play style, the stamina meters and the forced style of combat, defensive. I don’t ant it in everything now. There is no more hack and slash games or gothic themed games. There is only dark souls.

Why would anyone want to play a game that is designed to piss people off? Stupid.

Oof

@Socialist Sylveon didn't black and white 2 have that?

@@zoesequeira5388 we need black and white 3!!!!

New Super Mario Bros

best comment making fun of this whole stupid easy vs hard difficulty nerd fight in social media

Whining about people voicing their concerns/criticisms/requests and calling it 'whining' is elitism, too. It can be spun both ways, unfortunately. :P

However, if a game has an easy mode or if someone expresses that they'd like an easy mode(of course without demanding etc), it is elitism to lambaste it. The only thing that should stop From Software from adding an easy mode is whether it is worth the investment to implement it, Sekiro would be downright better with an optional mode that doesn't affect people who only want the true experience, but implementing it requires time that From shouldn't feel obliged to take, and so it doesn't need an easy mode, but it doesn't need to be restrictive either. In my opinion I think that adding an easy mode is not worth it simply because the market won't be expanded to much.

@@theSato By your claim, you are also an elitist then...

@@Hero_Puddle A lot of time and money, if you don't want the easy mode to be just insulting. As was mentioned a good easy mode would involve rebalancing the entire game, or the lazy route is changing a couple variables, which is what is most often done. People are demanding a thing that would cost the studio months of development and millions of dollars, which really does sound like entitlement. If they only express that they'd like an easy mode, that really would be fine, and From could debate whether the time and investment would be worthwhile to try to capture a larger audience, but what's been going around is demands and attempts to shame and cajole them for not having had an easy mode over a flimsy accessibility argument that doesn't seem to be about the people they claim it is.

@@SkyeRequiem001Well yeah, that first part is just elaborating on what I said, There is a large difference between a demand and a request however. You cannot treat all these requests as a demand, actually I'd argue that you can treat barely any of them, a demand implies that they are under complete obligation and that hey shouldn't have released the game at all if it wasn't going to cater for them.

A top tier troll move

This is just God Hand

Faster Than Light?

Ironically Sekiro essentially does this. It does functionally have multiple difficulties, including one that is accessible outside of New Game+ from fairly early on (Demon Bell). It's just that the default/lowest difficulty is higher than than the hardest difficulty of most other AAA games. I guess just not actually calling it "Easy" was their only mistake.

Dungeon of the Endless sends their regards

Dark souls is understandable the game is for the best of the best and the difficulty is preset to normal

@DrkAsDeath Absolutely does, beautiful game man, one of the best experiences that year have to offer, videogame-wise that is

@@josegonzales9169 boring. Sekiro is better

@@TykoBrian7 I agree sekiro is better than the entire dark souls trilogy but the slower combat does not make it boring. Mastering the combat for both these games is super fun(yes ik sekiro did combat better) but still.

@@TykoBrian7 One word. Bloodborne. All it needs is a 60fps PC port and it's all set.

Or watching a walkthrough online lol

Tbh once you read the tutorial popups you can beat the game fair and square. After you read tutorials it's all about mastering the mechanics and learning boss patterns and how exactly to react to them. Many people don't do that and then they complain that the game is too hard and doesn't play like dark souls, even though you are actually told how to play to begin with. Game teaches you to block and parry as early as first tutorial area. And it only teaches you to DODGE when you finish the tutorial and are presented with the mini-boss that has a special mechanic that can be avoided only by dodging (aka grapple). But then even Pewdiepie in his recent vid plays the game like DS (heavily dodging and never blocking or parrying) as well as skipping all the tutorials up to the point when he doesn't even read the popup that tells him to HOLD THE FREAKING LOOT BUTTON TO SUCC THE GOLD/ LOOT.

Exactly! I was surprised by amount of people that just skip most of tutorials, item descriptions and conversations and then they ask themselves what were they supposed to do. For example there is obvious clue that all enemies with red eyes are weak to fire and Ogre is one of them. And so many people miss that and thats the main reason why Ogre is wrecking so many new players.

That final boss tho. Every other boss feels like a cake walk in comparison. Only boss I have ever fought that I felt like I had to be perfect to win but it does make beating him that much sweeter.

Dude, I already paid like 50 bucks for this game and now I need to pay attention too?

actually, there's a demon bell-thing that increase difficulty. Yeah, ez mode with a hard mode concealed somewhere

demon bell, giving kuro's charm to kuro (NG+)

imagine if enemies as insignificant as an Ashina footsoldier had 2 phases and 2 deathblow markers

This is some Mega Man 2 level of plot twist.

@Wil E and on the second phase, he pulls out a second sword, and completely changes his moveset

This is a really stupid analogy to makes, since adding an "easy mode" to a video game doesn't make the normal and hard difficulty modes suddenly evaporate into the ether never to be seen again. If you find it too tempting to take the "easy" way out when it's available then that's just something YOU need to "git gud" in resisting, isn't it?

kenised my point is that not all games should have easy mode. Some need them, others don’t. That’s where it ends

@@decepter5227 Not all people need easy modes. Games aren't people though and having multiple levels of difficulty only expands a potential audience for a game. And no matter what this nincompoop says, the existence of an easy mode never "fractured" a game fandom or affected the experience of some hardcore gamer in any way.

kenised Jedi fallen order has 4 difficulty modes. It’s unnecessary for a game like that, and it all boils down to parry timings and damage taken/dealt. Difficulty in that game shouldn’t have been included b/c it adds nothing to the core experience

@@decepter5227 Haven't played the game so I can't comment on its modes, but even if the modes were unneccessary, what's it to you? How does it affect you, the person playing on normal or hard mode or whatever, if there happens to be an easier difficulty level?

dude if theres normal and hard and extreme, then normal is the easy mode :P

and yeah you pointet that out as well.. im going to bed

Little late here, but in Final Fantasy XI, during the Chains of Promathia expansion, arguably one of the hardest expansions to clear with a group, our healer was a white mage who only had use of one hand due to a truck driving accident. He was the best damn white mage I ever played with and wouldn't trade him for the world. He rose to the occasion. Dude was chill and kept the people in line. Whenever I think that I can't do something, I think of him. He was a boss.

As a disabled gamer, I'll take the liberty to take the other turn. Easy modes are very necessary considering my physical limitations. A lot of time I really want to play an action/adventure game, but it is just too hard for me - so yeah, an alternative would be extremely welcome.

Right? I like video games because they are a good way to challenge myself in private, and it actually helped me to deal with my disabilities in some meaningful ways. If there had been a way to just avoid these challenges, I may have done so, because I am also prone to frustration. But I couldn't, so I didn't, and as a result I played around my weaknesses and to my strengths. And sure, there are games out there that I will simply always suck at, but hey the same is the case for everyone else. These people need to seriously go fuck themselves with this annoying attempt to use me as a fucking ball in their bullshit made up controversies that are nonexistent outside their own heads.

AHAHA

Don't insult disabled people like that ... No one deserves to be compared to DSP .

@@danialyousaf6456 He really seems disabled though. In what way ever, but all that he is can't just be an achievable mental illness, some of it must be some kind of disability. Maybe a Forrest Gump situation.

@@DerVasto forrest was at least likable.

@@danialyousaf6456 Shots fired lol

@Eevel Ewe I like it that way. Players SHOULD be incentivized to 100% the game and not just simply run past whatever they find difficult at first.

Yeah like my biggest mistake was using guides on dark souls and bloodborn I still feel bad to this day

I am on ultra hard mode: not having friends.

I thought the easy mode was using the Black Knight Halberd

DS1 is definitely easy with a high poise, turtling, circlestrafing build. Same goes for DS2 with a Rapier build and a 100 physical shield. Unless you count the optimal content that's balanced for coop (Blue Smelter, Horsefuck Valley), you'll breeze through the game. Bloodborne and Sekiro are the games where the turtling is made impossible and you actually need good reflexes and mechanics to beat them.

Preach.

You are right, but people can still criticize that choice with good reasons.

​@@DonDadda45that would be fine if they also didn't try to make everyone who does like that thing sound like terrible people.

game creator can do bad choice and we can tell to them that their choice are bad.

@@paulamblard3836 A player of a game can make bad criticism and people can call their criticism bad.

Yup, Bethesda games are a horrible mess in their “Hard Mode” in which boils down to, you do no damage your enemies ohko you and you need to grind for five months to be able to properly fight

so these games do really need easy/normal modes (which they have) ot basically any game that its appeal isnt based on combat or that it is very clunky and buggy

Yeah she it still makes a difference. Not the best way of handling it, but it creates a harder fight none the less.

Starfield. Bethesdas enemies haven’t changed since the 90s and even then other devs had better solutions. Todd Howard is still stuck in school chess club

Sageoftruth this is much more effective

I think Battle Field 4 had a colour blind adjuster. Thankfully some games audio options are very in depth.

It's hilarious, because people didn't bother to check.

Oh god, I joined the covenant of champions without knowing what it did during my first playthrough of DS2. Gave up on the game for about two weeks until I finally beat the boss I was stuck on. I was so full of adrenaline that the relieve almost made me cry XD

I think hardmode starts when you start playing charmless

@@DYNB Exactly the same as me....

@@DYNB oh shit I got the game a month ago , got to throne watcher and defender with the covenant of champions not knowing what it did and I still haven't picked it up since . I'll go back and give it another shot

Even though I hate the concept of an easy mode in Soulslike games, that system is good. It’s how the Etrian Odyssey games work. They have 4 difficulty options, but the hardest one literally says “This is exactly the same as option 3, except if you pick this one, you can’t change it”.

Yes but then people who get stuck will feel that they chose the wrong difficulty, be annoyed and quit, if there's only one difficulty setting you know that the issue wasn't your choice, it's just a matter of the game asking more of you and once you beat that stage you KNOW that you're better, stronger and more ready for the rest of the game. I think difficulty is important for the experience because of how god damn hard my first playthrough was, it took me nearly 70 hours and quitting completely twice but once I got it, I got it and 6 years later I'm still replaying every game in the series at least twice a year.

Yea I like a little sugar in my tea. I don’t like anymore than that that’s why I play on normal mode

@@j0nnyism and all the more power to you my friend, if it's what you enjoy.

@Siren Drake That's an absurd point to make. Some people being varied in skill doesn't disprove his claim. It simply means that people are unequal.

@Siren Drake It all boils down to a feeling of "If I can do it, so can you". If you wanna play a "hard" game in easy mode, then you go play "easy" games. I mean, I can look away at every jump scare in a movie or cover my face during buildups and still get to the end of a horror movie but did I really watch it? Did I get even half of the intended experience? And most people who want to control how you play your games really just wanna share the satisfaction of completing a challenge to those who think its impossible, to convert people to "hardcores", they just have no better ways of communicating this than imposing their view and a superficial account of their experience. In this age of idle clickers, candy crush and open-world sandbox galore, do you really blame them? Some people just don't understand that not everyone looks for the same things in gaming simply cause not everyone looks at video games in the same light. To some this is like watching netflix, to some this is a hobby, to some this is is an addiction but in the end we are all here to do the same thing at the end of the day and thats to play a good game no matter if it teaches us to surpass challenges or just lets us disconnect our minds. Theres something out there for everyone.

@Siren Drake well the majority of gamers aren't f*cking handicapped and are perfectly healthy, sorry but FromSoftware ain't putting in an easy mode, especially after the game awards

@Siren Drake As long as the difficulty is set at the start of the game and cant be changed during, ill accept multiple difficulties. There is nothing I hate more than the "win button" that alot of games have. A good example of a game that does this extremely poorly is Bethesda games. Where you encounter something difficult/impossible with the gear you have and you can easily get past it with the click of a button. At least for me, it makes those games unplayable.

@Siren Drake Game are harder for some than others huh? Yeah because some people suck and some people don't. I think it's time to get gud casul.

Indeed it would just prolong the characters death

I mean, there's the special xbox controller, if these journalists ever gave half a damn about disabled people, they would be pushing for better and cheaper versions of that controller.

Yeah i agree game journos push for easy modes because they think they would profit from it I wouldnt condem that thou trying to better your own situation is not immoral i simply dont think it is neseciary I mean one of them got the right idea if you dont want the challenge from the game remove it with mods and cheats its not rocket science

@@kunakos9062 Abled people trying to use disabled people as props to get things they want is nothing new. I side-eye anyone who says anything about easy modes giving accessibility to the disabled. That's not going to help a person who has epilepsy, color blindness, or one hand/arthritis/partial paralysis.

The disabled thing is a red herring. They are using the disabled as a bulwark to protect their own ego from having to learn to parry.

YES

This isn't the best way imo. Changing how the game plays basically tells players to relearn the game instead of being able to carry over experience from.other play throughs. Then again my friend who plays jedi survivor keeps tryna put his controls into ER every time he plays which is dumb

that would be hilarious :D

Perfect This is the only form i would tolerate an easy mode in Dark Souls

@Agent Deception Just because you have a different humor you dont need to be butthurt bout it :) its all just jokes

Just make it the full normal game, but you get the best shield and you are constantly blocking :D

Ein Typ in dark souls 2 it's always easy mode unless you join a certain covenant which makes the game harder.

Game journalists are god damn retards. Most of them are as much gamer as my 2 years Old niece....

@@riccomike What the hell has your two year old neice has done to wrong you so much to deserve this insult? learn to forgive, fuck. D:

Well another guy from Forbes also wrote an article that was the complete opposite

I just dont enjoy hard games, Thats why i play easy mode, Or normal because i want to get more story :)

Forbes is indeed a quite well known platform for journalists of all types, game journalists included. But as Josh043 P stated, there are MANY game journalists working for Forbes and thus there will be different opinions. My own brother writes for Forbes (Erik Kain), and the two examples used by the original poster here couldn't be further from the way my brother as well as many other of his "co-workers" feel on those two, aforementioned issues. Keep in mind subjectivity on a per person basis.

Wait until you hear about books my dude.

@@CarrotConsumer yeah books are fun but video games can tell a story differently with art and music and voice and even the controls.

Books are a story told to you. Games are a story told BY you.

My dude 🤔

@@CarrotConsumer books lack music, visuals and the experience of being the protagonist

I think that response depends mostly on how well the game is designed as opposed just the difficulty alone What I have most against isn't difficulty, but half assed difficulty. Like on easy mode they set the damage to do 2 times more against enemies and 2 times less against you, or make healing items more or more ammo pickups That's a really lazy way to implement difficulty If your gameplay is tight, then most players will still have a fun time even on easy mode. Then to add to replayability they could always bump up the difficulty My favorite example of difficulty that caters to various skills is Sunlust, a megawad for Doom 2. It doesn't just add more enemies at higher difficulties, but replaces lower tier enemies with higher ones. It also adds or removes items. It doesn't take away from the Sunlust experience, because you're still needing to use the same tactics mostly as you would on higher difficulties Other games like Thief the Dark Project do difficulty different. It's difficulty is objective based, like on higher difficulties, you need to steal a higher amount of loot, or keep the bodycount to a minimum. Custom difficulties are also fun as hell, it lets you tweak a lot of parameters for your difficulty to cater to what you want to turn off or on. Sniper Elite and Dishonored 2 comes to mind. Some easy difficulties are truly bad. Ninja Gaiden 3 RE's easiest difficulty is just insulting, these ones are worth complaining about but I'd argue most good games, even with the half assed difficulties I mentioned, won't receive many complaints about it being boring or too short. For rogue like games, I think it's more on perspective. It takes time to sink in that feeling that yes you are making progress, even if you're dying, you're just making progress in a different way. It's less a matter of difficulty.

Giving players the easy way out sucks, even without implementing difficulty modes. I played Horizon Zero Dawn recently and I got the shield-weaver armour. It was insanely overpowered. I was taking out the hardest machines in the game without so much as breaking a sweat. Fights lost all their thrill and meaning as I breezed through the hardest quests in the game. I genuinely wish I had never picked up that armour because it definitely lessened my enjoyment, though I didn't think so while playing it. Why didn't I just drop the armour or not use it? Because it was the best armour in the game! Why would I drop it? I obviously wanted to have something that made me stronger back then, and I didn't see how it made the game's well designed combat feel boring, but now that I've finished the game I look back fondly at the difficult fights I had before getting the armour and I realised I enjoyed them a lot more. By taking the easy way out I basically ruined the experience for myself and I truly regret that. (I'm gonna start a new game + on ultra hard mode and drop the armour when the memory of the game fades a bit)

@@phryg2035 its depends on the player not everyone has same as you...thats why many games have difficulty..if you want to challenge your self go to very hard if are cusual gamer go to easy mode simple as that..

That's exactly what would happen on Sifu. And guess what, the easy difficulty wasnt a thing on release, but the developers are working on it rn... just for more bucks I guess.

On one side i would love to experience stories of these games myself but on the other my hand coordination will never be up to for me to even make it though the first boss of these games so while i want to so badly to interact with this medium and experience the story i will never be able to cause these is no easy mode that might make it just a bit easier for me just because someone wants to preserve some sort of purity

For the most part I'd agree with you, but I have to say, the difference is one takes away from other's experiences and the other takes away from the individual player's. Now while no game *needs* an easy mode, I don't think there's a reason to attack people who use one. Take the Forza series for example, I know that on the regular difficulty setting there are alot of children who would try the game, give up and not like racing games anymore just because they're too hard. Adding a difficulty slider would allow them to play the game at an easier difficulty and then actually learn to play and enjoy a racing game like that. And would help introduce younger people into "proper" video gaming. Honestly, if it's a single player game, does it really make a difference if other people can make it easier for themselves?

@@justynpryce why should devs make an experience they dont care for just so someone that doesnt like the original can enjoy it. Not all games have to be for every single person out there. If the games too hard you have 2 options. Git Gud or simply accept its not for you and try something different.

@@fishnutz5196 I don't know if you read what I said, but I never said that devs *should* make an experience they don't want just so their games are accessible to everyone. I just said don't attack people who use difficulty sliders in games that have them. Games that have difficulty sliders have them for a reason, right? Not because the devs don't care for more options yet are forced to have them, but because they want a game that has varying difficulty, for whatever reason

@@justynpryce People who play easy mode are pussies that should have never survived the evolutionary struggle.

@@poisonsquid37 can't tell if this is a joke or not, but in the unlikely case that it isn't, so what you're saying is that a 7 year old who's never held a controller before and isn't good at forza on unbeatable difficulty deserves to die? Yes officer, this comment right here. . .

you can say that the pacifist route is the easy mode and the other is the hard mode

Well what about the neutral route

neutral is the easy one, pacifist is way harder because you die a lot faster from not getting that sweet LOVE

@@TheNewMaxico but in passive you can only win by dying soooooooooo

Again that makes no sense having a easy mode in undertale seeing its easy but you forget each route is basically difficulty picking pacifist being the easy mode and neutral being medium and genocide being hard or extreme so yeah undertale already has a easy mode and your basically saying "what if the hard mode had a easy mode" which doesn't make sense

I wouldn’t have either

And that’s fine. Those games are for you. From games aren’t.

The video title is very misleading from what the actual opinion of the creator is.

I'm in the other side of the spectrum, if skyrim hadn't put legendary difficulty, I would have stop caring in 30 hours max after starting it; can't play any halo games out of legendary; EDF 4 goes from easy to inferno, and I still feel like playing today. I lose interest if it not challenge my limits/potential.

kek

this i guess those kinds of games are not popular enough in demand to be complained about

This idea that Sekiro is any less accessible than other games is a farce. If you learn enemy attacks, you can beat this game without having to smash buttons rapidly or have quick reaction time. Meanwhile, platformers, shooters, racing games, and games like guitar hero (which you mentioned) require much more hand dexterity. Yet where was the outrage then?

@@theycallmeGUN This, here, is the problem: Those so-called "Games Journalists" do NOT want to learn. They just want to be done with it so they can make their half-assed review and get their money. For them, an easy mode would make their job easier, thus they complain using "accessibility" as a shield. If they really wanted accesibility, they would be advocating for new hardware specifically tailored for disabled gamers: Adapted gamepads for people with one/no hands (some play with their feet, believe it or not), more in-game options for color-blind people (there are many types), added subtitle options for deaf people (Left 4 Dead 2 has optional subtitles for important sound queus), etc...

@@theycallmeGUN the only "outrage" i see is from "gamers". it appears they enjoy much more gatekeeping than the game itself.

Bernard Da Costa you must be blind then lol

there are some sort of urnalism more for games, when u skipping any problems. Called "cash money"

no way man , journalist mode would only serve to be dis-services to the game since those journalist review will only talk about what in those mode and not what most of people who play the game experienced.

Yet they say people who don't want an easy mode are insecure, what a joke.

Enemies and bosses should just drop dead when you walk within a certain radius of them. They should just make it so easy that they'll complain about it being too easy.

@@Lunk42 also you can't die either

Having different difficultys in devil may cry for example makes sense bc you carry your progress from difficulty to difficulty and the game was made with that in mind. Also in sekiro and the soulsborne games you already have different difficultys: new game, new game + and so on.

@@akunoni8400 sekiro and dmc basically have the same difficulty system. You beat the game, you unlock the harder difficulty. Repeat.

I love more modern Resident evil difficulty system.

I had an idea that games could a demo mode where you get access up to a part of the game (probably determined by dev/publisher) where it's way easier. The mode could be renamed to "Journalist mode"

@@cameronwofford8709 Lol...rip Journalist credibility.

@@cameronwofford8709 Remember when games used to use colorful little jokes to name their difficulty levels, like "Baby mode" etc? We could go back to that, and journalism could be the "tell me a story" mode

@@potaterjim There have been a few games that were something like that. But they had enemies for you to kill. This is all I ask for: "Theatrical Cut: all the events are scripted, the enemies do the least amount of damage possible while you one shot everything. Everything looks like a cardboard cut out"

This is the journalist saying oh I have four days to review this is the game hard I hope there's an easy mode oh no there's no easy way out that means I actually have to play the game the horror

Kurigo I would just answer, I find watching others peoples playing videos games boring as hell. If I’m not engaged in that fight I can hardly care about it

@@oliviawilliams6204 i understand but the all inclusive mentality is even more boring just imagine hearts of iron 4 that plays like facebook farm sim....

@@Kurigo never even heard of Hearts of Iron serie so i can't imagine that. But my point is kinda is, that'S why difficulty options are there

That's also broke mode

@@oliviawilliams6204 It really depends on the game. Watching someone else play a video game is more of a social act. Or, watching someone else play said video game might give you ideas for how you'll go about a particular obstacle. Maybe even watching someone else play the game can give you some kind of teaching experience. Minecraft for example, you could watch a friend or youtuber play Minecraft, and then engage with them giving them ideas for a particular project. Or you could just play with your friends, initiate, plan, and make different projects together. You could inspire someone else, or someone else could inspire you. Years ago I watched the youtuber Thinknoodles, and enjoyed his Minecraft let's play because it inspired me to have a few different projects. I haven't came across many video game videos that do this, but there's been a few times where I was watching a video of someone playing a game and they had solved something a particular way which inspired me to do likewise. It wasn't like a tutorial or anything, just inspiration. And because of the social aspect, watching someone play the game, you can see it and hear it from someone else's perspective. They could just be ranting about something, but as you soak it in and criticize what needs to be criticize, you could learn more about something you hadn't before, and if it's a livestream and they're willing to listen to you, they could learn a lesson as well through interacting with you. Not that all games are viable to watch someone else play. I've tried to watch other people play chrono trigger and other such games before. It is, indeed, very boring. You're not engaging with the game, and you're usually not engaging with the player either. Although, if you have a hatred for games with high difficulty but enjoy great story writing, watching others is a viable "easy mode" as many people in the past have done so. Some people who realized a game they thought was difficult years ago might actually be good, would go back, play it, and have fun. Like the guy in the video said, not all games are for everyone. And neither should they be.

These games difficulty is designed around persistence, not twitch reflexes. Which is probably why a lot of the younger audience have trouble despite having good reflexes.

What country do you live in

Rsilverio75 amen to that!

Why play a game you can literally beat without any effort?? Difficulty is what make a game and keeps players coming back to get bettet

aclownofthorns what I’m pretty sure sekiro is designed around reflexs

Finally a reasonable comment. I'm playing DS for the atmosphere and story and I think it has just the right difficulty - BUT I can imagine how frustrated and even sad someone who really loves a game's content, but struggles with its difficulty could get, if he just can't succeed however hard he tries. And nothing speaks against a well integrated easy mode that locks the player from loot or specific additional content, if used, because it incentivises regular difficulty, while still enabling worse players to progress and appreciate the game. But of course "gamers" don't get this.

The point is that difficulty options in general can hurt a game's intended experience. and I seriously doubt that no souls game was ever difficult for you just because you played demon's souls first. It'd make sense if you said like, you played through all of demon's souls, dark souls 1 and 2, so dark souls 3 was no big deal. Difficulty settings in games do hurt the experience for me, and for many others, in several ways. Skyrim is a great example of bad implementation of difficulty. If you have trouble on a certain section, instead of finding a more effective solution, you can savescum, you can turn the difficulty to the minimum, or you can just grind levels for hours until the whole game becomes a cakewalk. Using your example of DOOM, I love the new ones, but I always felt like I had no idea what the intended experience was supposed to be. I knew it wasn't supposed to be easy, but how much am I meant to be challenged by it? I have no clue. Another example of difficulty settings hurting an experience is The Witcher 3. Over half the game's mechanics can be ignored on lower difficulty settings, making the game feel like you just spam attack to win. You've no need for alchemy, smithing, bombs, crafting, upgrading, even utilizing healing items, which are all part of the intended experience of feeling like a monster hunter, brewing potions and bombs and mutagens to prepare to fulfill your contract. Easier modes just have you go to the monster and spam the attack button. Don't have to cast spells or use blade oils or buff potions. some people like a challenge. As he said, it's not a tragedy that some games have difficulty settings. Some people like that. And that's fine. But not every game should be tailored to what one demographic wants. Multiple types of games exist because there are multiple demographics to please. I happen to like playing a game as it is, experiencing the world as it's meant to be. Regardless of if that makes it hard or easy. Some of my favorite games of all time are Hollow Knight and Kirby's Epic Yarn. The former because it gave me a beautiful yet brutal world to explore and eventually conquer, and the latter because it's a simple, relaxing jaunt through a fun world with a goofy art style and pretty music. Whether games are hard or not isn't the issue. It's the settings that can make a game unnecessarily hard, or unnecessarily easy.

@@Loafusbreadmyre when i read people complaining about a game having an easier option i just dont get it. How in the world could SOMEONE ELSEs decision to play something in the easiest mode possible somehow affect YOUR ability and option to play it on the hardest mode possible. There is still not one good reason why a game should not have an easier difficulty. Because remember: I am me and you are you. Whatever you do, DOES NOT change what i experience and want experience. So from the gamers perspective there is absolutly no valid reason why there shouldnt be an easy mode for someone who wants it. If any person has a problem with the fact that someone could have played and finished the game the easy way instead the way they did, then that person really has some mental issues.

So are you leaving the Rook Islands or nayy?

Souls also has one, it's called magic.

Conclusion: you want easy mode? Mods.

You were making a good point but then you swerved off the road there at the end.

@@tsukasa0802 Could you be more specific? (not trying to start an argument - just interested at which point you see things differently)

I agree here but, the thing is that finding your way out of dungeon is the whole point. Like in the video you feel like you did something and feel very happy, Sekiro is hard and that’s fine why? cause you feel very good when you beat a boss, I beat owl and guardian ape after a while and it felt so good, where I would do one of these too, 1) use cheats and change to easy mode or 2) just give up. Mods can do a bunch, like add extra things to do. I’m maybe trailing off here but I hope they make a Sekiro 2 or DLC to make the game harder, cause that’s what it means.

That story about Terry Pratchett was very sweet, actually made me tear up.

And every enemy says "git gud" when dying

I wish that was the case. It shouldn't take too much programmer time to just raise the player's health by an order of magnitude and give the enemies 1 HP.

Some reviews will find a way to die

Easier games are definitely more accessible to the mentally disabled and children.

Easy mode makes a game more accessible for people that are easily frustrated and don't find fun in overcoming challenges

True, but there are MANY games that are easy if that is what they want. They're just butt-hurt over the fact that SOME (quite few, really) games are made for a specific audience that they're not a part of. They sound, to me at least, like a teenager throwing temper-tantrum about how the world isn't fair.

@@AirNeat isnt this an 18 though

@@thebanable7721I'm not speaking only about Sekiro, some games should have an easy mode, I'm just stating a fact

Yeah I am fucking lazy when I'm playing games. Because they're for my entertainment. Real life is hard enough, I don't need a game that frustrates me because it's hard. It's supposed to be fun, and idk to me "putting in work" for a game is fucking dumb. I could spend hours doing the same thing on dark souls until I "git gud" but I'd rather spend that time playing something I actually enjoy or working towards something actually useful.

@@kingnate8974 It's not exactly rocket science. Do you feel proud and accomplished after finishing Kirby's Epic Yarn? No. People like overcoming challenges. Unless they're shit like you

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I thought it was good

Alien Soldier has 2 modes. Supereasy and Superhard. Supereasy is pretty damn hard. Superhard is the same as supereasy, except you get no continues

@@Flackon My McD also has 2 coke sizes, medium and large.

Jason Brody finally someone reasonable. I had an hour long debate with a guy more stubborn than a mule. And it was all in text. I wanted to debate him in a discord chat but he was like “ your argument holds no water you don’t deserve to be debated”

Raidon Sub It would be a nice challenge though. And winning would be so satisfying.

Why does it matter whether the developers are fine with it or not?

@You Are dear lord i want you to think about this for a second.

Exactly, if the easy mode fits into their vision of what the game should be, then that's absolutely fine I no problem with that. It's when people complain that it doesn't have an easy mode when having an easy mode would go against the vision of what the game should be. There is not a single game in the world that's meant to appeal to everyone.

The soul’s series has similarly been instrumental in dealing with my PTSD and anxiety.

If your answer for ANYTHING in life is GIT GUD, you can go fuck yourself.

@@BabysitterSky Life is harsh and it doesn't have any easy mode(unless your rich as heck). So yeah, GIT GUD.

@@dragonandavatarfan8865we use video games as an escape from life, not as a metaphor for it. You can go fuck yourself too.

I want a power fantasy in my video games

Zorada yeah, honestly the way forward is probably better controllers, not difficulty

This is the most disgusting thing, that journalists make You and people like You, who have some health issues, an arguement, without asking Your opinion. And in so doing they are trying miserably to hide the fact that it is them, who crave and cry for easy mode, not You, or others, who they use as a shield. I hope, that people can see through this lie and will catch those "journalists" where it hurts, because this is what they deserve for their manner of putting up the arguement about the problem, that concerns them, and not people who are they supposedly caring about.

@@ezergilechimekazikura6855 Spot on. One point 'I'll add.. Most games that are worth playing tend to have a learning curve. This is something most people with common sense understand. This translates in to reality as well. Most of what we do, we learn to do, and the more we do these things the better we may become at them. Not everyone is the same, especially in the ways we learn and approach things and situations. Most of these people complaining that "Sekiro" or any other "challenging game" trying to say that there should be an easy mode because of...disabled people... clearly have no leg of integrity to stand on. Many people with disabilities that I know are amazing at almost every video game they play. I've never heard them complain about how "Why isn't this easier?".. These "game journalists" are clearly inept at what they are getting paid to do and feel insecure about it, so they have to project this bullshit. It's really kind of sickening. Also Dark souls(all of them) have easy mode. Its called using a shield ;)

It's the excuse for non disabled players for a easy game

@@tylerking439 to be fair, the learning curve is particularly steep in Sekiro, but players who were actually waiting for the game expected that and wouldn't be happy with it being easier. A thing journalists, or those complaining in general need to understand: Not every game is intended for everyone. I'm not asking for a colorful bloodless version of shooters so I can play them with my 6 year old nephew, I have different games for that very purpose. And those journalists expect a different treatment just by hiding behind disabled people who disagree with them for the most part anyway? How comes that they didn't stand up so big when it came to Dark Souls or Bloodborne? Maybe because of the fact that they were way darker games in terms of design, while for Sekiro their inner weeb wants a piece of it?

death of the author boi

@@jimbogreen7029 death of the author refers to the meanings intended in story narratives, not how game mechanics function

@@uppsie why not both? There's no author around to dictate what is and ain't a valid interpretation. The only reason it only refers to narrative is because it was theorized around narrative mediums, but in games I would define it the players reaction being what gives the game meaning. And that isn't just limited to narrative.

@@jimbogreen7029 This discussion isn't about a player's interpretation of the games meaning, this discussion is about asking developers to change their work. This would be like demanding an author rewrite sections of their book because they don't like what's written.

@@uppsie no its not lol

I mean, to be fair this IS an accessibility issue. And one that is easily remedied with a visual indicator mode that could be modded into the game- without sacrificing the artistic intent as well, such as a subtle "flash of light" style feedback system. Accessibility is a good thing, its also a thing that can be made into a reality without sacrificing artistic intent. Creating a setting that is "yeah you dont have to worry about mechanics at all" is if anything offensive to disabled people. They feel the same desire for challenge, accomplishment, learning and overcoming that everyone else does. If ever there was a project to be kickstarted/funded through patreon, a group of programmers that goes in and mods specific fixes to accessibility problems without destroying the artistry that makes a game great is a good one.

So we should do nothing? Because of this SPECIFIC illness not being helped by an easy mode.

@@booradley6832 Are you suggesting transforming a a game into blinks of ligths? I WILL DEVELOP THE SMASS HIT OF 2021!

"Epileptic Seizure: Modern Warfare 5" Already presold 5 mil copies.

It's not, though. What about a person who can't stop shaking? If a platformer had a mode where they can't walk off of the edges, the game would become exponentially more enjoyable for them. Use your imagination; there are plenty of situations where disabled people would be drastically helped by an easy mode.

@@Jay_Sullivan Then the game isn't designed for them, in fact many games would be difficult for them to play if they had problems like that that would cause them to accidentally walk off a cliff. Even with an easy mode it wouldn't be easy and especially an action combat game. Not to mention that not every game has to be accessible for everyone, that's not how games have ever been. For example I fucking suck at EVE Online because I have dyslexia. It's complex and it's incredibly difficult to wrap my head around. Even after watching tutorials on how to play it, I still struggle to grasp it. But does that mean that the game should dumb down the learning curve completely based on my problem? No. The game was just not designed for me and that's fine.

@@roryos , there could be a difficulty designed for them; that's the whole point. I never said the game needs to be designed for everyone. The video was about singleplayer games. My point is that it's not an insulting argument, and it's actually a good argument.

@@Jay_Sullivan but it is insulting for many people who are disabled but don't want to have a game dumbed down for them against the original design the game was going for. For those people it's the bigotry of low expectations. People expect them to be bad because they're disabled and yet in many instances, that doesn't have anything to do with skill level. Again a quadriplegic man beat Sekiro, he has a major motor function disability and he's still massively better than most fully able gamers, even saying himself that he doesn't think the game needs an easy mode. There's a blind man who's a god at Mortal Kombat. If someone can't play a game at all based on it's difficulty because of their disability they would struggle regardless of having an easy mode or not. And remember that accessibility is not the same as an easy mode. You can still have accessibility options in a hard game to help people with disabilities, for example even Sekiro it's self has complete controller rebinding allowing disabled players to customise their control layout.

@@roryos These are some great points and I want to add on that there are already a plethora of ways to make games more accessible for people with disabilities. It's entirely possibly to build a custom rig tailored to your own specific disability if you really wanted to. Some dude beat Dark Souls using a bunch of bananas (seriously, look this up, it's so cool). Microsoft even has a controller catering to disabled gamers that lets you plug in any sort of input and map it to a button. There just isn't and weight to this whole "disabled gamers need an easy mode" argument.

There are good points made for Dark Souls specificly, but the video is lacking in seeing the greater picture, as in these games are not designed directly to tell a story they are about atmosphere, thrill of the fight and challenge. Games that have an amazing story to tell, implement easy difficulty to attract wider audience. For example i could spend 10 min fighting a mob of enemys in God of War or i can spend 5 min it all depends if i like the fighting part or the story part more of the game. So this Videoname should have been "no Darksouls-ish game needs an easy mode" and i would agree with this video. That aside while Sekiro is darksouls-ish it has better story, which attracted audiences that will buy the game for the story, but will not stay for the challenge and its exactly those people that are complaining right now. They hyjacked the disabled gamer point to get more attention. Its basically the Developers job to decide if they want their game to be seen by more people, but have people spend less time with their game or the opposite. They also have to consider that the longer people on average spend time with their game the bigger the community around the game will grow.

Zixiang Ma You can’t be a Game journalist if ur good at games duh

No, it's like saying every movie needs to be physically watchable by everyone

@@theiggliestbuff9925 easy mode wont make it playable by everyone , thats the point , if ur blind then more health and damage wont make it playable now would it ?

@@yahiaaymankamaly3518 i mean if you're blind then you're going to have a tough time experiencing any visual medium. and I'm not saying that it's possible to make movies that are physically watchable to people who are blind or a game that is playable to people who are blind. What I am saying is that the desire to include disabled people as well as people who are bad at games, children who don't have the best motor skills, and anyone else who for whatever reason can't complete a difficult game under normal circumstances, is absolutely NOT like saying every movie should please everyone. KUNOLEO's original comment is a horrible misrepresentation of the argument at hand. movie's and games are obviously highly subjective and it's moronic to expect every single person to like every single game. but that isn't what the conversation is about, it's about allowing people who can't just "git gud" to participate in something they otherwise wouldn't be able to. It's fine if you don't think an easy mode wont solve this issue, but DON'T pretend that saying you want more people to be able to play difficult games is the same as saying that a movie has to please everyone

@@theiggliestbuff9925 pretty much what I mean, thanks for making it easier for ppl to understand what I ment

@@theiggliestbuff9925 It is. Just like there are movies that aren't and shouldn't be accessible to children, there are games like that. The motor skills to play a game, can be a part of experiencing that game, just like having knowledge of certain philosophies, or historical events can be part of experiencing a movie. It's like with people who say modern art shouldn't be respected if you need to have extensive knowledge about art to understand it. Most art or movie or music critics understand that not all examples of the media they judge are for everyone. All of this talk about making content for minorities of this or that type, and yet it's supposed to be wrong, for some games to be made for a minority of gamers? If a game can be too hard for a person with disabilities to play, the need is not for the game to sacrifice it's integrity, but for a controller that would allow the person to play despite their disability. The conversation very much is, about making it so everyone can be pleased by games. It's a decade old discussion about how some people can't enjoy tough games. Now unrelated (and worth talking about) issue has been brought to the table, to support their claims. But again, it's not an issue of adding an easy mode to games that would suffer from it, but creating tools and different means by which different people could experience the game the way it is meant to be experienced. Adding an easy mode to any of the souls-likes (keeping to the Fromsoft titles), would be much like adding long pauses to a movie where someone provides exposition to you. (to expand on that one. There are showings of movies etc, where someone will explain them to you, with context and all that... there are also playthroughs of games. But those are additional things, and not the way you are meant to experience them) Where the conversation is about games having to please everyone, you picked out the new argument that talks about something entirely else.

Maybe they can add a boss skip button after you die 100 times on a certain boss so the player will still have to keep on finding and learning the bosses moveset in order to skip it, then theres a good chance theyll be able to beat the boss before they resort to using the skip button lol

Breath of the Wild is hard? Alrighty then. Could've used a hard mode. As to my take, an easy mode is good for games I'm not sure I'll find interest in. I got The Witcher 3 free with my GPU, and I was 100% expecting to most likely hate it (Based on previous RPG games), so I started it on easy just to get a sense for the story. Turns out I like The Witcher 3, and if the only option was basically Death March, no way in hell would I have played it, despite probably still being interested in the story. Does every game _need_ an easy mode? No, but I can also argue that a lot of games that only have one difficulty are also worse off. A big one for me was Metal Gear Solid 5. I would've loved a harder difficulty with more aware AI that might actually cause damage, instead of me being able to take out an entire village with reinforcements and a few Hind Ds with a M4. Or be able to use my binoculars without auto tagging enemies that never goes away and gives me the ability to see through walls. Or be able to mess around and die a few times without the game ostracizing me and trying to put a stupid chicken hat on me. Best I have is some PC mods. I will also 100% disagree that the argument of difficulty options fragments the community. I don't think anyone's even given a shit that most people don't play Halo on legendary, but they'll still talk about how cool the game is and how much they like the world and it's characters.

If you're good enough at games to take on Silver Lynels, you're more than ready to give Dark Souls a try. Just in case you think it isn't for you solely due to difficulty. Do note that Dark Souls is different from BoTW, though - there's a huge difficulty spike right when you start playing, but after that it doesn't actually get much harder. Personally, I highly recommend it. The story is my favorite of any fictional work.

Definitely but I remember playing Devil May Cry when I was like 13? Maybe younger? I turned 29 like two days ago so I’m not sure how old I was when Devil come out but I digress. From what I remember it didn’t have an easy mode until you kept dying over and over. Now as a young squire this happened to me during the Nightmare boss battle. As a result I took that option and over time I played the game over and over, each time moving up a difficulty. Same goes with like Hitman and stuff. I’ll play it normal then move on the Professional for example. Also as a dad with a 11 year old kid and 31 year old girlfriend and a full time job (Not to mention friends and pubs, gym, football matches, hangovers, come down that come with it) I simply don’t have the luxury of time and I imagine that’s the case for most adults. I only get to play games now if I’m off work during the school holidays or my daughters playing outside or she’s on her own console upstairs and my girlfriends still in work. I also go back to working your way up. I play games with my daughter but obviously I’ve got about 25 years experience she’s got like 6 so we’re at very different levels so it would be good to ease her into the game’s that are somewhat harder that I play. It’s like when I did my training for the parachute regiment for the British army. They don’t just start by throwing you out of aeroplanes day one. You do work your way up through P Company then it gets harder and harder with more people dropping out until you’re not a Joe anymore and you earn your beret then you move on to jump school for your wings. My point is I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing if you’re A. Not a lonely child rapist or B. A kid or C. Want to make the game last a bit longer by working your way up (think of it like training). I see the points of not having them in every game and I certainly agree. I see no reason for like likes of dark souls or bloodborne to have and I see no reason for every game to have them but I certainly see a case for it and that’s enough. It doesn’t make a difference to me. If I find a mode not challenging then I’ll move on up. It’s literally that simple but people may want training. Plus it’s bollocks because it’s the Internet age so most people can easily get guides up anyway. It’s not like back in the day when you had to spend a weekend trying to figure something out. In terms of accomplishment I’d just make it so you don’t get any achievements or rewards for the lower difficulty. So that’s my conclusion. I see no harm in them, they don’t make a difference to me because I probably wouldn’t use it unless I was short on time so the existence of such wouldn’t bother me. Like gay people. I’m not going to start letting people slam lengths up my arse so it doesn’t make a difference to my life if people want that for themselves, I’ll stick to licking my bird out.

"And if the game wasn't hard at first, that sense of accomplishment wouldn't be there." To you. But who are you to say that other people would feel the same? An easy mode would change nothing for you anyway. No one forces you to choose it and if you want difficulty you are free to play it the hard way.

dkc shouldn't have an easy mode either

I played contra when i was around 6 years old and battle toads and those were challenging games

And adults now complain that kids are playing m or r rated online games but that's the same gamer that plays adult rated game

I think when people cry about wanting an easy mode the devs should make it harder win win for all

@@markearl7172 or just add a higher difficulty and rename the pre-existing difficulty easy

Helps them make money, you mean. It kills artistic vision and player choice.

Dark souls also sold well, its difficulty also helped from soft

@@tuna5305 who wants to make a game that doesn't make profit

there are extremes in everything we do, an average disabled individual isnt going to be anywhere near tournament play. those people you are reffering to have dedicated countless hours of their lives to a singular goal of being great at one thing.

@@VoraciousHeart So if disabled people can do that, shouldn't that mean that people who aren't disabled can do it too? In reality, the difference is mentality. Bad players are bad, because they have weak mentalities (which is to say, they give up too easily and never improve as a result, they prefer their nice little comfort zones). Disabled people are actually better people than they are, because they often push themselves harder to compensate for their disabilities, and as a result have far stronger mentalities. As a result, they deserve respect, whereas the entitled losers deserve to be scorned and shamed. Bad players could learn a thing or two from disabled gamers.

@@zalamael do you play games for the challenge or to enjoy them? you can enjoy challenge but others will enjoy worlds, stories and lore. i enjoyed every part of sekiro until it came to boss fights. they ruined an otherwise enjoyable experience because of their stark contrast to the rest of the game ( that being the stealth shinobi capable of killing every enemy in 1 hit.) while i still played and eventually beat the game i ended up more frustrated overall than joyful. human being have spent their entire existance on this planet trying to be as comfortable as possible. imagine if the game started you on new game plus with a permanent demon bell active, would it be to hard then? what if every attack instantly killed you, too hard then? difficulty shouldnt ever be an exclusionary point for a game, that defeats the entire purpose of the medium. If you want to learn a sport you dont start in the pro league, but for whatever reason thats all their is for this game. you can keep telling yourself its because of weak mentalities, but its not (for the most part. their are some that give up WAY to easily) its about effort vs reward. if i put in more effort than the pay off im at a net loss.

@@VoraciousHeart Good question. I will say, I enjoy a challenge, because you have to work to get results. And when I first played Sekiro, I could die often to basic mobs if I didn't use stealth. But there comes a point where you figure the mechanics out, and realise, that the game is intentionally designed to punish bad and passive play. When a boss can 2 shot you, the natural tactic is to play hit and run, but that just doesn't work, because they deal posture damage to you, and can stun and hurt you badly. But when you play aggressively, you can stop them from attacking you, and damage their posture instead. So basically, playing aggressively and not letting them dictate the fight, is actually the best defense. Now, if the game was made easier, it would cripple that dynamic, because you could just button mash the attack button, and win every fight, without ever having to master the mechanics. I love that I can play Sekiro with a hangover, and I play badly (as in, my reaction time is slower, I get over-exited and button mash etc), and the game punishes me for it. But I also love, that when I am in 'the zone', I can concentrate and play well, and actually get results. I am not saying the game is perfect (the camera is horrible on occasion), but the combat is something I have been wanting to see implemented in a game since the 90s. And finally, someone has made a game where it actually feels like you are having a real fight, rather than just spamming attack and winning every fight without consequence.

@@zalamael and THERE is the misconception of an easy mode. its not a " i cant die and make the game a cakewalk" mode. just a slightly easier mode that normal. for people that want the game hard their is hard modes, even harder the "impossible" mode or some variant of the name (of which sekiro has) but an easy mode is a travesty. no one talks about the integrity of the expierience when you can increase the difficulty. the mechanics of the game will always be the same so bosses wont be THAT much easier regarless of how they change the difficulty.

HARD agree with this one.

It's called the Black Knight Halberd

@@chickenpermission323 zweihander havels armor

@@chickenpermission323 then Sorcery Build is very easy mode

Dark Souls was easy mode. So many ways to trivialize the game. Default strength knight was enough to beat the game for anyone with basic motor skills. High poise Havel armor build, black knight halberd, claymore quality build, sorcery, straight swords, pyromancy. The OG game was more of a role playing game than anything.

also blizzard doing a good job of visual cues

Thats so fucking hard. Absolute respect to the man

I can’t hear anyway with everyone constantly screaming in my ear. Maybe it’s easier?

There are still 500 OW players?

Youre lying

Adam Wilson I was never able to afford Xbox live so I had to beat those games solo. Now I’m on ng+7 and a badass at pve.

This debate is pretty retarded because easy mode isn't an objective quantifier. How easy is the easy mode? How certain playstyles, items and optimizations that make the game a lot easier? How about powerfarming? Easy mode in essence makes it so that you either receive less damage and/or you deal more damage to enemies. Somtimes it can change enemy behaviour but that's pretty rare in this diseased industry nowadays, developers just tune the stats. So in essence the Soulsborne games had an easy mode; using shields, powerfarming, copying the most optimal build from Reddit and so on. Admittedly BB removed shields so that's the first Soulsborne game where you're forced to have good reactions but even then, optimized builds and guides along with a bit of farming makes the game significantly easier. Sekiro shaked up the community because in general that's the first Fromsoft game without an easy mode. You need good reflexes. You need to learn the patterns. You cannot make a Havel-poise build or a RobFlynnStone build and kill every boss on the first try anymore. I couldn't give a shit about difficulty for the Soulsborne games, I always researched the most opmitized, efficient way to play the game and followed it to the letter. Aside from a couple of areas and bosses (cutting off tails in DS1, Horsefuck Valley in DS2, Orphan of Kos in BB) I didn't have that big of a problem. All in all, beating those games was definitely easier than the first general in Sekiro. This is the first Fromsoft game where difficulty is given, you don't have to actively nerf yourself or shy away from efficient builds, you can't level up your character, you need to level your own skills. So the whole debate is something new, because most games really do have difficulty options, they just hide them. Just because you can't select an easy mode in the menu doesn't mean you don't actually have ways to make the game significantly easier.

@@agostonbazmajer1100 If you know about powerfarming, playstyles, and build optimizations then you understand the kinds of things requires to be playing hard games like the SoulsBourneIro series. A lot of people do not and never will be willing to do those things in games. I am much more confident revisiting any boss in Sekiro than I am revisiting bosses in DarkSouls. In Sekiro you can be equal with anyone in combat. DS makes you feel weak, Sekiro gives you the tools to be an equal. Difficulty is subjective but FS has said they make games that grant a sense of accomplishment not for difficulty. I feel accomplishment so they did their jobs.

@@wisdumb47 'you understand the kinds of things requires to be playing hard games like the SoulsBourneIro series' We need to make a distinction here then. To keep it simple, things can be difficult at a mental level or a mechanical level. Beating the best chess player in your county or region is a very difficult task, but if Magnus Carlsen tells you every move on a hidden headset, then literally anyone can do it. Mental difficulty can be completely removed if you follow guides or people actively tell you what to do. And a huge part of difficulty in Soulsborne comes from this. Sekiro is different, you don't really need or even can optimize builds, sure you may find tricks, locations, routes and items that help a little but in the end, 95% of Sekiro's difficulty is mechanical. If you don't have the reflexes and skills to beat the boss, you can follow any guide or reddit post, you simply won't beat it until you improve. In the previous Soulsborne games this wasn't the case, if you had read every guide you could be a bad player but still beat the vast majority of bosses without much problems simply because mechanical difficulty could be mitigated with research. This is the difference and that's why a lot of people have extreme difficulty with Sekiro.

DS3 did have an easy mode though. It was summoning people into your game to help you win. Otherwise, you could invade other people's worlds and watch them play through a level and watch the traps and tricks that were there and get a layout of the level for yourself. Most times, they will die without you touching them and then you get revived and can summon again.

No. It starts hard, but you can make it HARDER.

Not quite true, as that's the bad kind of hard mode. The actual good kind of hard mode becomes available, once you beat the game and is henceforth an option.

The people crying have no understanding of the game. Likely no understanding of games in general.

That is not really true. The default difficulty is just that. Ringing the bell just activates a super-hard mode that increases loot. Dark Souls 2 had something similar in the Covenant of Champions.

@@MindinViolet we are talking about the same thing but disagree on the end result. You have the default (easier) and with the bell (harder). The game is by default on the easiest difficulty and it is up to the player to increase it.

Game Journalism is just a bad parody of itself at this point. It's ppl getting paid for something they dont have a backround in and they dont even want to do their jobs to justify their salaries. It's another comfy scam job that provides no value to anyone.

"One game writer said something I didn't like therefore all the hundreds and thousands of other writers are bad, too"

This but unironically "I beat Sekiro with cheats and feel fine" But replace "Sekiro" with every game I've ever played and "cheats" with my own custom made or configured mods/cheat tables.

Gatekeeping

But those are two different categories.

@@thebigx68 you like turn based rpg games, cool you don't like it when its hard? don't play Darkest Dungeon

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People over here talking for everyone in the community, I swear.

All From Software games are great examples of that. They're supposed to be difficult, it's part of the reality the developers wanted you to experience.

Then dark souls isn't for you. This doesn't mean dark souls should have an easy mode, it means you should play another game.

"I play games for relaxation and immersion" Good now go and play anything other than Fromsoft games and just play Stardew Valley or some shit

It's not offensive to acknowledge facts.. if a person's deformities prevent them from performing equally to an otherwise able bodied person there is no offense in acknowledging that fact. It's analogous to me as a Male being told I will never give birth .. I accept that because of my physiology. That is not to discount your disablity or diminish it.. but in many cases offense is taken, not given

@@geoffdb8118 It's much more likely that a disability will make someone unable to play (or enjoy) a game at any difficulty level than that it'll just make them need a lower difficulty level. If the lower difficulty level makes it possible to complete the game even if the player can't use skill to overcome its challenges--like, for example, easy modes where health regenerates after every fight--then it's no longer a game, so much as 'an interactive experience'. If the player isn't aware of that, they might enjoy it, but they're still being cheated.

@@amymason156 if a ramp makes it easier for a person to get into a building are they cheating ? No .. so why would a solution aimed at those intrinsically less capable due to unfortunate disability be cheating ? Is it better to exclude them outright ? 🤔

@@geoffdb8118 I didn't say anything about 'cheating'. If the challenge of a game has to be removed for a disabled person to play it, then they are being excluded outright, regardless. To be included they need to share the experience of playing the game, not just be along for the ride. You can't 'include' someone in a marathon just by transporting them from the start to the finish, or by letting them push a button to glide along. They have to be able to run. If they can't run on their own legs, then you have to give them legs they can use. If you still can't do that, then you should find something else to include them in.

@@amymason156 That marathon comparison is excellent. I shall appropriate it.

Lets be honest, a lot of us wouldnt have played it or enjoyed it nearly as much as we did if we played it on EZ mode.

@@SonGoku5363 No doubt, 100%

@@SonGoku5363 The game could've added easy mode, but with an option for players to permanently disable it, to avoid temptation. Just doing this for the sake of arguing, I am more or less neutral to the debate.

@@heimskr2881 I think temptation argument is still bullshit. All the Nuzlocke community proves people can in fact abide by self imposed challenges. I think we should focus more on the creative expression and shared experience arguments

@@SonGoku5363 That's because one of Dark Souls' merits was the high difficulty. If you know you'd enjoy it less on Easy mode, then why pick it? I _always_ pick normal mode (apart from when I was a child, which is who easy mode is really meant for)

@Decadent Descent woooosh xD

@Decadent Descent No worry dude sometimes its not easy to tell if a comment is serious or not ;)

Exactly! Dont you guys have money?

you are comparing apples and oranges.

Sometimes you can learn something about oranges from apples. The two mediums are similar and the logic of the argument can be applied to movies.

It's like saying every explicit song should have a clean version ...oh wait! Games are interactive, movies are not. Movies are an entirely visual medium, whereas often the easy mode in a game doesn't effect the themes at all, and only changes, well... the difficulty. Obviously the purpose of a horror movie is to be scary, so having a softer version would violate the movie's purpose. However, an easy mode doesn't violate the game's purpose unless the purpose of the game is to be difficult (as in Dark Souls).

@鬼斬Onigiri's Maow Their* Obviously it didn't increase your "brain level". Your grammar is terrible.

Editing a movie for kids and adding an easy mode are COMPLETELY different One takes away content, the other adds content

It's amazing how often people seem to miss this point.

Some ppl acting like its insulting that they dont and like they owe them one-easy mode defeats tha purpose of Soulsborne

The problem with this mentality has already been addressed. Adding an easy mode would ruin the essence of the game in itself as it's offering an easy way out of the challenges you're supposed to overcome. The temptation to lower the difficulty will always be there for someone seeking a challenge and is attempting to improve. Rather than getting better, they can simply cheat. This shouldn't be an option wherein the whole point of the game's difficulty is to force you to improve or die. This is like thinking there needs to be a hardcore, brutally violent, edgy mode for Animal Crossing to cater to people like myself who get bored of games with minimal challenge. That game is simply not for me. It's a laid back, calming experience, and I'm not the target demographic. I have no right to alter the artistic vision of this game simply because it's not suited to my abilities and/or tastes. Accessibility is not the point of the challenge. It's antithetical to it. Why does everyone want an option to make a game more accessible to them when the game isn't catering to them in the first place?

@@BigPuddin I mean, as someone who plays only Minecraft on hard-core, I am fully behind some hard-core animal crossing. I mean, if you would constantly be tempted to turn down the difficulty, that is a you problem. And Dark Souls already has an easy mode: offline. Iunno, I think this debate is pretty dead now. I just dont understand why it is such a big deal. We gamers constantly like to complain how we spend more money for less content these days. Now gamers seem to be defending another thing taken from us which used to be industry standard. I'll just reiterate what I said a year ago: I don't see a problem with easy modes. If someone wants to play a game on easy, that is their deal, not mine. If FromSoft never adds a legit easy mode, I don't care. I just find it weird that so many people seem to get so butt hurt by the idea of one existing. Like where is this "it is about the struggle" argument for games that have an easy mode? Shouldn't you start boycotting games like Doom, Minecraft, Dragon Age, etc.?

@@GOAToatoat An easy mode would compromise the vision of the fromsoft games and it is that vision that drew so many to love these games. To change said vision would be to change a part of why people liked the games in the first place and thus it makes complete sense that fromsoft game fans would not like this. "Shouldn't you start boycotting games like Doom, Minecraft, Dragon Age, etc.?" This is completely irrelevant. These games never established themselves as not having easy modes and have never made it a part of their creative visions. No vision is being asked to be compromised and no expectations are being asked to be betrayed. People are not asking that all games not have easy modes just that fromsoft be allowed to keep their games the way they are in peace.

So true! I played spiderman and star wars jedi fallen order in easy because I died a few times and thought, "I don't have time for this! This is supposed to be how I destress!" Yes, I enjoyed the characters and story in those games, but once I started really getting into bloodborne and playing the souls games, I learned what true stress relief is. Try worrying about work or anything else when venturing into blight town for the first time or stepping into an area that screams 'boss room'. You can't. 🤣

did you start summoning the first time you died?

yeah, check out the disabled Tekken player who plays using his mouth. "Disabled gamer broly"

these easy mode people just like bullying game developers cause it makes them feel better, it actually has nothing to do with easy mode. the game industry has adapted with mobile games, which are the most accessible type of game out there.