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How mods drive innovation in gaming

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An examination of the role mods have played in shaping and changing the gaming industry.
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Atomic LAN Party circa 2000 • Atomic LAN Party circa...
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Unreal Tournament 99 Deathmatch! • Unreal Tournament 99 D...
Evolution of 2fort map in mods and games • Video
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Quake 1: USA vs Europe Deathrow vs Clan 9 on DM3 • Quake 1: USA vs Europe...
Half life Scripted Sequences and Sentences Tutorial • Half life Scripted Seq...
Day of Defeat - A retrospective tribute to Half Life modding • Day of Defeat Retrospe...
Counter-Strike 1.0v (Half-Life Mod) • Video
Aeon of Strife 2 Zeriercahl PoV • Video
HOW TO CREATE A CS 1.6 MAP WITH WORLDCRAFT • Video
LoL Gameplay - Nasus Top [Ranked] • LoL Gameplay - Nasus T...
DOTA 1 : Drow Ranger - Traxex BEYOND GODLIKE • DOTA 1 : Drow Ranger -...
BATTLE ROYALE! - Arma 2: DayZ Mod - Ep.39 • BATTLE ROYALE! - Arma ...
Minecraft The Hunger Games Mod Showcase (And Gameplay) • Video
BATTLE ROYALE! - Arma 3 • BATTLE ROYALE! - Arma 3
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DOTA UNDERLORDS: A Tutorial for Complete Beginners • DOTA UNDERLORDS: A Tut...
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LoL Custom Game #1 - ARAM Inhouse • LoL Custom Game #1 - A...
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@TheFanoren 4 года назад

Listening to this reminds me a lot of the development of a little thing called Dungeons and Dragons. Which started off as a modified ruleset of a nopleonic wargame systen so it could take place in a medieval fantasy world. And someone got bored of just playing that one day, and set up a scenario for his friends where they were heroes in a siege with their own personal objectives. Then he added in improvisation on a whim because one character in the game was OP, so he had a monk pull out a blaster and shoot him. Gary Gygax, the man who largely made D&D what it is, was a player in one of these hero centered wargame things, and decided to make rules for the game because up until then it was completely improvised, and would playtest it with his children. Not only did this lead to Dungeons and Dragons, a game ive been playing for more than half my life, but every other tabletop RPG, and arguably the entire RPG genre in video games. (The creators of fallout credited a lot of their inspiration to tabletop RPGs they played, and unless im mistaken, The Polish Localization of Balder's Gate is what earned CD Projekt the money to make the Witcher 1, just to name a few examples). Its really amazing when you think about it, how one person deciding they want to play a favorite game in a different way can shape an entire industry like this

@FlameStormer2000V2 5 лет назад

One thing I'm surprised wasn't mentioned. Real Time Settler for Fallout 3 was a contributing factor in how settlement building became such a focus for the series.

@S2Tubes 5 лет назад

The video was about multiplayer.

@valdimardotof930 3 года назад

no, its minecraft.

@blub232324 5 лет назад

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@vexing1000 5 лет назад

What you've forgotten to mention here is that for every successful mod which spawned a wave of new games modeled after it, there are a thousand more that failed miserably, and therein lies the real problems with Game developers trying new things - nobody wants to take the risk. If a dev wanted to take the risk then their manager wouldn't, if a manager wanted to take the risk then the company wouldn't, if the company wanted to take the risk then you can bet the shareholders wouldn't dare to do anything that might impact their profits. Why take the risk of creating a brand new idea when taking an existing idea and improving it would be so easy and basically gauranteed profit? There's a reason why hardly anyone plays Team fortress classic, Dota on WC3 or CS 1.6 anymore. The big game devs took that idea, polished and improved it and stole all their playerbase because of course a big game company with lots of funding and full time professional developers can outdo a group or even a single modder. And that is probably key to where the next innovative MP game idea is going to come from, the place the AAA industry can steal their next idea. Maybe five years ago I could have answered you with either Roblox or maybe Minecraft but the former has devolved into a minature version of the games industry while competitive multiplayer modding in the later has somewhat stagnated and whilst minecraft still has some potential neither game seems to be an ideal breeding ground for new ideas given how the majority of the playerbase tends to stick to one gamemode or mod in particular (see DarkRP). If anything I believe we should be looking at the indie games industry for the next major idea as game development gets easier. Even if indie devs don't innovate as much as modders do, many indie games DO support modding and can develop modding communities themselves.

@XristoferLee 5 лет назад

Yet Doom is still getting mods made for it to this day. And maps. A game 26 years old and still hasn't died. Sometimes simple is better

@raifthemad 4 года назад

That sheer amount of mods that don't make it was exactly the point I was going to make.

@Shushkin 4 года назад

There usually is a good reason or many reasons why those mods don't take off.

@LeKain08 4 года назад

"What you've forgotten to mention [...] the real problems with Game developers trying new things - nobody wants to take the risk" .... He literally mentionned this reason, mister I-wanna-sound-smartass... I won't take the time needed to pinpoint the exact moment he said it on the video, because I really don't have time to give to pretentious people who want to sounds interesting or more knowledged than the video creator by adressing a point the creator mention themselves (all while pretending they didn't...)

@kurtzman1883 3 года назад

But this comment acknowledged that along with successful mods there are numerous failures which was not addressed in the video

@allenwold4097 3 года назад

There is so much history of gaming. My first experience with a computer game was "Lunar Lander." Basically, there was a number, which was the the height of the lander above the moon's surface, and another number which was the thrust affecting the speed of the lander's descent or ascent, which you could control, trying to land without crashing. Getting it exactly right was, shall I say, not easy. From that to here today. So much history.

@TheSham1337 5 лет назад

I recently saw your Fallout Analysis and subscribed, I have to tell you that your videos are excellent and I love watching them. Continue making more, they're fantastic.

@pedrobeard7816 5 лет назад

Rebelsize the lead developer of Skyblivion mod for Skyrim said it best, "its a labor of love not of money" or something like that. Great video though :)

@mdd4296 5 лет назад

@@SimonWoodburyForget To add to that we have seen truly free games (no revenue whatsoever for the devs) on offer, but they are a minority by far. And they are a really "focus" experience that doesnt provide modders with much things to work with. They also have really long dev time, which let interests in them die and with it: the modding scene.

@pedrobeard7816 5 лет назад

while loss of interest might be a factor for the decline in innovations and quality of a game especially for a project that spans years in development I believe it's not the only reason for instance games that tries to capture as much players as possible for revenue purposes will surely lead to watering down of some features however indie games and mods don't have that restraint in fact they mostly thrive when made for a specific and often niche audience for instance games such as Celeste and Shovel Knight might not sell as much as a triple A title but it doesn't have to. Similar to modding in particular for example mods such as Inigo and Fallout Sim Settlements projects that are just the author believed could improve the experience or even add an experience to a game itself or even like the mod projects that adds features so ludacrous it might as well be an official content or better a game of its own. Like the the mod Forgotten City in Skyrim

@ezj8262 5 лет назад

Skyblivion... is that like the Skywind mod? www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=_sFIXfSiM5Cq_Qb3v6HIBQ&q=skyrim+mod+skywind&oq=skyrim+mod+skywind&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30l2.1913.12923..13101...1.0..1.410.3735.1j8j6j2j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i131j0i10.69ADd9Q6VYo&ved=0ahUKEwj0mYuR9-zjAhUQVd8KHfdfCFkQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

@mrhoapro1 4 года назад

@@ezj8262 yes, but for Oblivion instead

@SpunkyMcGoo 5 лет назад

REALLY good video. I hope you get your big hit soon, you deserve to be up there with Joe and Mandalore 1+2. Also, Hytale is looking like it's trying to be the next big ultra-moddable game. We'll see if it succeeds.

@SariusxX 3 года назад

It looked like it, but now that they are published by Riot... we will see.

@TheOrian34 5 месяцев назад

5 years later, hytale might happen one day.

@this.is.spencer 5 лет назад

It's funny I've been thinking about this and discussing it with friends a lot recently. I was even about to write a post for r/truegaming or somewhere with a lot of these ideas (not that I could recreate your thoughtful research and delivery!). I think your guess for the lack of innovation from industry (AAA studios being risk averse) is on point, but I'd throw out that this is so much the case that I'd say its unlikely that even the genres that aren't that divergent (battle royales; class-based, objective-focused shooters) are very unlikely to come to the industry. Now that the industry has grown enough to have attracted serious investors, it's no longer about making games that are profitable. It's about making THE game that is THE MOST profitable. And the surest way to do that is to just take game ideas that have been shown to work ("survival", "RPG elements", "open world", etc.) and mix them together in different configurations. I think the most obvious example is the Ubisoft IPs that used to have something original and have increasingly bled into each other to form a single game: the looter-shooter, gear-score based game with an open world revealed by climbing towers, dotted with repeatable activities to grind out money and experience (of course you can skip on all that if you buy into the premium currency and XP boosts!). The irony of it all is that the bland mishmash of genres the AAA studio makes can only continue with regular injections of new innovations from indie games and mods. That's not to say they add nothing, obviously they polish the innovations and iterate on them (eventually to death). I just find it sad that these days the gaming industry has to outsource passion.

@the11382 3 года назад

I would say that AAA companies want innovation on their terms. Which means slower innovation(Innovation costs money and may reduce profit for other IPs), marketable(some games are just more fun to play than to watch), monetizable(MOBAs are not as easily monetizable as say, RPGs) and researchable(such that companies can market research the genre).

@dg19de 5 лет назад

I have watched all of your videos now. Man, you are good. Your analysis is spot on, indepth and smart. Good work and keep on making those great videos! I love your take on both Divinity Original Sin games especially.

@StarsAndSticks 5 лет назад

Great video NKB. I absolutely adore these 30+ minute projects of yours. Can really tell your production skills are increasing as well. Bravo

@Watchmen07 5 лет назад

Great video mate, keep it up :)

@hunterwolf9591 5 лет назад

You're gonna get big my dude, keep it up. I believe in you. Good, good, GOOD shit as usual.

@rorydonaldson2794 5 лет назад

Seeing HoTs at 6:56 pulled at my heart strings. That game was my high school years. Rip HoTs.

@serpentscorpio9893 4 года назад

The modding community have also kept some games alive throughout the years. One of them was Vampire: the masquerade-bloodlines. It failed commercially when it was originally released, but due to the love of the modding community, it slowly became an RPG classic and is now getting a sequel :)

@florenceforbush63 4 года назад

The online servers for Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2 really made those games for me, without the custom worlds and stories and those communities I never would’ve put more than 5 hours in those games. They still have strong communities to this day! That would’ve never been possible without the mod tools the devs put out

@androsh9039 4 года назад

Great video! The irony of mod-made games not allowing modding is so big that I feel silly for not noticing it on my own.

@Mementomori292 5 лет назад

Great Great video! Truly fascinating ! Keep doing this. Spot on editing, commentary and actual substance . Great work!

@Iranite 5 лет назад

I kind of miss a mention of how modded Minecraft spawned the genre of factory automation and logistic engineering games like Factorio, Fortresscraft: Evolved and Satisfactory. Maybe it's just too much of a niche genre. Nonetheless: Great video!

@vizthex 2 года назад

i love factory games like that, but i can never get past the mid-game. I just lose interest after a bit.... still got 500+ hours on Factorio though.

@shade0636 12 дней назад

This video is criminally underviewed. Interesting stuff.

@Nearsification 3 года назад

This is a very important video for the history of video games. You should try just flat out making a documentary style movie.

@StachMan 5 лет назад

Great video man this should be seen by everyone... I played cs 1.6 for 15 years... lol

@TaintedM4rth 4 года назад

I think the reason for why modders can do what big companies can't is that they are actually gamers who build what they think would be fun.

@miles2354 5 лет назад

Stumbled across this vid and its an instant subscribe from me, excellent work!

@jankoncsol6457 4 года назад

What a phenomenal deep dive and nuanced, yet through analysis. Your work is outstanding my friend, please give us much much more in the future! :)

@NeverKnowsBest 4 года назад

thanks Jan

@HardenedMetapod 4 года назад

A couple of less important, but interesting games that have their roots in mods: Mordhau is a spiritual successor to Age of Chivalry, a mod for Half-Life 2. Rising Storm 2 has it's lineage in the Red Orchestra mod for Unreal Tournament 2004 (although this one is slightly different since it's still Tripwire at the helm, but I'd argue that Red Orchestra also helped inspire Hell Let Loose and Post Scriptum.)

@Marcelo_M.M. 5 лет назад

When I discovered I could create not only the main character, but the whole party in Baldur's Gate, I never could play a game difficult to mod. That sensation of be playing my own adventure, with my own characters, with my own sub-plot... priceless...

@fluffygutts2240 5 лет назад

I miss the good old days when PC game's came in a big box with a dev's tools disk with all the shit you needed to start modding. People would buy games just for the mods, I still want buy any Bethesda games till the mods and patches come out lol

@maegnificant 4 года назад

Not many games ever did this

@motenai82 4 года назад

Just found your channel and i'm loving your content, keep up the good work! Hail to mods, only god knows how much time i played on the original DoD for HL1, that was the golden age of mods imho.

@zomeraktiven 4 года назад

One add to why I think modders are able to create successful game modes is that they are not influenced by what several co-workers and bosses think. They just go for it without their vision warped by other sources. I Can't help but think of when I was a kid and merged different outdoor games with others, introduces new mechanics, rules and stakes. E.g. taking hide and seek, merging it with capture the flag and introducing treasure hunt mechanics; Making my made-up game the favoured one between friends. Just something I found fun, without the influence of others, resulted in other people liking it too.

@coreyheron813 3 года назад

I love listening to someone that does analysis on anything game related with such passion. Never stop doing what you love man, this content is amazing!

@racypies 5 лет назад

VIDEO GAME DEVS: "we want microtransactions in order to extend the lifespan of the games." VG PLAYERS "If that's so, then release mod tools and make the game moddable like Skyrim, 10+ years and still going strong." DEVELOPERS *Crickets*

@classicdoomguy3356 5 лет назад

Skyrim is getting close to 8 years old , it's not 10 yet

@sosvaneey993 5 лет назад

wc3 is almost old enough to drive

@CDBURN 2 года назад

This video really got me thinkning, when you mentioned that Auto Chess couldn't really be easily compared to something existing, my brain immediately went: "But it's just PvP Legion TD, or Blood Tournament", both of which are fairly successful Warcraft 3 custom maps. I had always assumed that those were the primary inspiration for Auto Chess since they were so similar, but hearing mention of Mahjong as the basis got me to think, is this a case of convergent evolution? It would be really interesting to me if, with a timegap of some 10-15 years, two developers accidentally came up the the "same" idea but without knowing about eachother first. But then again, Auto Chess might be very similar to Legion TD, but it's also generally adjacent to the whole Tug of War genre, which is big enough to have its own tab in the official Starcraft II mod browser. Castle Fight, Desert Strike, you name it. There's tons of these really similar games that have went unnoticed by the larger public for decades, yet after playing Auto Chess, I still can't tell you what sets it apart from the rest, what makes it rise above to such great success. I think it's interesting to observe these kinds of things, and I'm always excited to see which new subgenre is going to spawn from a mod that hits the zeitgeist just right.

@NTeKLullaby 5 лет назад

Damn making me cry with that Dawngate trailer (At least the Shrine of Imanna project is coming along well). Great video. I'll stay for a while and subscribe :)

@Talon3000 Год назад

Also never underestimate how many mods there are out there, and most of them don't get played. It's also sheer numbers of trying stuff.

@vcrbetamax 5 лет назад

Open source game development is the new modding circle. Check out the "Godot" engine, "Blender", and "Krita". Make something, create something. It will help you to stay sane and not kill yourself. That's the reason most people do it at least. Hope to see your content.

@brucedobiecki7254 5 лет назад

AAA dev did basically invent Battle Royale via Konami and Kojima Productions back in 2008. Metal Gear Online 2 (MGS4's online) had a mode called Stealth Deathmatch that dropped players randomly on a map with no respawning and it even has a circle closing down the level forcing players closer together.

@tigerfestivals5137 5 лет назад

That's pretty crazy.

@jerryturgin6583 4 года назад

Of note, I LOVE ARAM. As someone who grinds ranked, after a bad game and a hard loss or as a warmup it is amazing to have a mode were you know it doesn't matter as much and it is quick fun. If something goes wrong, you aren't stuck in that game for 30 min to an hour, and the mode means that it rapidly swings back and forth for both teams. While I would never JUST play aram, as I love the extended depth and skill expression more commonly found in the rift game mode, it complements the experience.

@spragon6940 5 лет назад

mathewmatosis that uploads more. Joking aside,this video was top tier,i knew that modding was large for single and multiplayer games but I never knew it was *this* gigantic for multiplayer. I wish you touched on monetization of mods a bit more.

@decree72 6 месяцев назад

whole half life and quake community got more refreshing with such modifications, tfc sure the more famous

@haulperrel2547 5 лет назад

I can't watch now but excited to watch when I get home!

@TheManWithTheFryingPan 5 лет назад

This man has big brain I could probably be more verbose, but that is always the thought I am left with after one of these videos. It's rare that I pause and think as often as I do when I watch a video from this channel

@skeletonmeatphantasylibrary 3 года назад

8:26 damn that dude's portrait is groovin to the BGM, I don't blame him

@CatDribble 3 года назад

Mods allow anyone to inivate on a base with assets already set up for them, taking away all the extra time that would need to be spent working on assets for a game, it gives them a set of game mechanics already implemented and allows them to experiment with different ideas based off of them, what happens if I speed everyone up by 300% etc, when most big studios are focused on making a game they think would sell they aren't so focused on just fucking about with what they have and what might be possible, they already tend to have a goal in mind for what they want and have to build, when mods allow people to take the built stuff and add, remove and mess around with what could be possible. Instead of leaving the game design to 10 - 20 people you allow millions the ability to do there own game design, and only one of them needs to make something different and slightly new to revitalise that game or create something people love

@grandotaku2501 5 лет назад

The game industry hasn't matured, its been diluted.

@holythirteenx1 5 лет назад

Diluted? How can you dilute a septic tank?

@grandotaku2501 5 лет назад

@@holythirteenx1 you keep making the tank bigger obviously.

@tigerfestivals5137 5 лет назад

Which is what happens when people mature.

@jibb1451 5 лет назад

It has matured. It's far more calculated and consistent (for better or worse). Games now make as much if not more money than theatre. They have solidified themselves as an entire entertainment industry, and not a Carny act. Although admittedly, where there is money, there is greed, and the line between love of making games, and making games for money, starts to bend.

@thatundeadlegacy2985 3 года назад

What happens to everything that goes mainstream, anime will die next.

@TimmacTR 5 лет назад

Is that the vid YOU wanted to make too? ;) I bet that's why it's so good.. ;)

@KiazaKadaj 2 года назад

god the DayZ Mod, WC3 Mods, Diablo 2 etc funnest times in gaming i’ve had

@alternative4314 5 лет назад

Very good video! But I think you missed the biggest point for the success of these multiplayer mods. For every PUBG or Dota there are 1000 other maps/game mods ideas etc. that don't make it. That are simply not good enough or interesting enough. Even if the idea for the game mode is good there is terribly much stacked against it. You're suck inside another game, struggling to be seen by people, the technical implementation is probably poor, you're not paid for your work and so on... So even the good ideas don't make it, only the outstanding ideas do make it and manage to find recognition. Their concept is so good, that it alone is powerful enough to overcome all the difficulties. If the concept is then picked up by a company and made by professionals you got the next LOL, Counter Strike or Fortnight.

@mh1593 5 лет назад

An exploration of Steam will show that there are often thousands of mass-popular rated mods on games that accept modding on them; For example Skyrim, while old, has at least 3,000 mods with over 1k favourites. There are 28k mods on Skyrim, on Steam alone. I believe the video was about what makes just one of those (for example) stand out and get noticed outside the mod- or game- immediate community. I reference Skyrim for ease but the same applies to any Moddable game, and on Steam the statistics can be reasearched via the Steam Workshop.

@yuriythebest 5 лет назад

I was about to mention this - you are exactly right. mods / simple games made by 1 person are the thing that streamlines the evolution of the "big" games, since basically they can be considered prototypes

@prettyshortshorts Год назад

Fun fact - ARAM was not a new mode to LoL. It is a combination of the DOTA (mod) map modes -ar (all random) and -am (all mid), which could be applied separately, the usual one was -ap (all pick), also -sd (single draft), -cd (captains draft), -wtf (no mana cost and spell cooldowns , aka URF in LoL). In the older versions of DOTA (mod) there was also -fun (fun tavern), which added extra characters, very stupid and broken characters. There are probably other ones, I don't remember.

@juliofoolio2982 2 года назад

You have convinced me that we desperately need a mature, cerebral online games publication. You have so many truly insightful things to say. As you say them they become obvious, but were not obvious (at least to me) before you said them. You are an important voice that needs a greater audience. You need to be heard. Please don’t burn out.

@miguelmartins5184 3 года назад

Dude, love your videos. The mindset of a true scientist and researcher applied to videogames. That said, I've got a request: could you please make a retrospective/critique Europa Universalis? It would be really great. Thank you for the awesome content. Keep going!

@TOGS355 3 года назад

This channel is criminally under-viewed.

@zlodrim9284 5 лет назад

I was just looking at Bunny's video about mods yesteday and here you are today uploading one of your own on the topic. What a funny coincidence. Anyway, loved the video and your other shit is top notch, especially that Planescape vid, so keep at it.

@joel6376 3 года назад

Mods can take risks and also have playerbases from the main game to draw on. Many of the games these hang off are(were?) very popular.

@no_nameyouknow 4 месяца назад

Multiplayer mods can also benefit from the rapid fire prototyping and stress testing ideas. If enough people are creating and playing mods then the best ones will rise to the top and get more attention and thus more people potentially helping or forking the idea into something new. And so it goes. It's a great breeding ground for ideas because you don't need to make a game from whole cloth, you just have to come up with ideas that fit into the game you are modding. Obviously it's still a lot of work, but it's nothing compared to making an entire game of comparable quality.

@whocansay2215 5 лет назад

Really hope you get the views you deserve for your fantastic videos

@bunicatata123 5 лет назад

I wish there was more videos like these Keep it up g

@LuckyLucyHi 7 месяцев назад

Sole trader devs is the future. Phasmophobia and Lethal Company are both one-man band games.

@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 5 лет назад

Not only do people often not know what they want (only which of the stuff that already exists they liked), they may not even accurately _tell_ you what they like. Because it may not fit their self-image or how they want to be perceived. For example you'll get, on average, very different answers from teenage boys if you ask them what they value in a game when their friends are around vs. when they're alone with you. They think they _ought_ to like violent fast-paced action games or whatever, so that's what they'll say. Even if they actually prefer The Sims. This is one reason why (poorly designed) focus group testing tends to produce the most boring, stereotypical, homogenized media. You get groupthink answers, not honest individual ones.

@MistorDi 3 года назад

And this “people” includes developers.

@Urre5 5 лет назад

Superb video! Trust me though, as a game dev myself I know the reasoning behind not allowing modding is all reason #2, not hacking. Your example with Auto Chess is a modern case of modding being allowed in a highly popular competetive multiplayer game.

@Urre5 5 лет назад

The thinking is, they don't "need" mods like they used to to stay relevant for longer if they just employ enough people to crank out content they can sell instead, meaning the game both gets the added content but they also benefit financially beyond the sale of the game itself like a game with a popular mod simply would. So it's just money really. Modding hurts the business model.

@beddyboy 5 лет назад

Never does know best. other great upload, well done. Please keep 'em coming.

@mbe102 5 лет назад

Wouldn't be a PC Gamer if it weren't for Battlefield 1942 and Desert Combat Mod. And then there was no looking back.

@goncaloferreira6429 4 года назад

A video like this about skyrim and dark souls is what i want to see.

@michelemichienzi934 3 года назад

And here it is another video reminding me that dominion existed just as I was done coping for the loss of the best thing lol ever had

@bogdanshymanovski 4 года назад

its crazy how a mod for quake made team fortress which then made half life which then made counter strike

@qihaoliu3631 4 года назад

Project M is honestly the best Super Smash Bro imo -- and despite Nintendo trying to kill the mod, we now have P+

@lounowell4171 4 года назад

battle royale games have literally been inevitable since the blueprint was already laid out in the film 'battle royale', we were just waiting on the technology when hunger games took off with kids, it somehow became even more inevitable but yeah, mods are dope

@samueljansen6372 5 лет назад

Awesome video, liked and subbed. I play so many Doom mods, but never play normal Doom. Just mods.

@paulstaker8861 4 года назад

Mods are like free beta tests for big publishers to clone and profit off of. They don't have to waste time and money to R&D themselves, and can still profit. It's safe and profitable, the cornerstone of modern business.

@thatundeadlegacy2985 3 года назад

I remember taking an hour to download the new Dota Map on dial up.

@Nathaivel 5 лет назад

I really love the clear voice and polish this video shows, I’ll definitely subscribe for more. However, I think your technical description of modding is slightly inaccurate. Games like Warcraft 3 avoided the ‘modding as hacking’ trap by ensuring each player was using the same custom map (basically a self-contained mod package). It’s important to distinguish asset swapping and ‘health=9999’ style hacks from mods that use original content and scripting within the game’s engine to present a wholly new gameplay mode.

@joel6376 3 года назад

During highschool my circle of friends lanned regularly, starting with doom. From the get go "it would be nice to be able to play on a map like school/bobs house/etc" and "it would be good if this was more realistic, maybe with M16s" were regular comments. CS was going to happen in one form or another and they have held their first mover advantage for a long time.

@Rantig 5 лет назад

Great video! Can't wait for your next upload

@nordfreiheit 5 лет назад

I used to spend hours and days making Starcraft mods. I loved tower defense and story-based games and made a bunch of them.

@N3LI415 5 лет назад

Wonderful analysis as ever, thank you!

@hampuslarsson8761 4 года назад

The lack of profit motive in the modding scene puts creativity over return on investment, and encourages risk.

@rhythmmandal3377 4 года назад

I'm surprise Antoin Greizmann wasn't in the Fortnight dace section.

@danielhathaway1498 2 года назад

Something about the way you emphasize and.......shape the word "genre" is pure audio heroin, bro...

@vizthex 4 года назад

I love game mods, especially since a lot of them fix bad QoL in the regular game. I never understood why some people are always elitist about how you have to "keep the game pure" and shit. If for some weird reason you don't want some QoL and/or more content, just don't use it.

@DonnyKirkMusic 4 года назад

I love STALKER mods. Playing them is like playing a somewhat-different game entirely. I say somewhat because GSC really did lay the foundation but modders built upon that and more.

@sosvaneey993 5 лет назад

7:53 and thats what we need, not only in games. but in everything edit: dominon when they FINNALY added balance per map was great.

@LivingxPrime 5 лет назад

Mods move the bar forward simply by looking at the numbers. There are typically far more players than devs, and core game development time is vastly lower than said game's accrued exposure time. You're unlikely to have a good development team of a million, but a million players are a million opportunities to implement ideas in some fashion. When these ideas gain traction, a dedicated individual or commonly group therof can work to flesh it out, in this example being the impetus of a core game. Mods are essential in that they are practical surveys aiding rapid progression in this industry. Without them we just progress/change slower - what someone tells you they want isn't always what they're really looking for, but they'll gravitate to what they enjoy more organically than not.

@aliciaaltair 4 года назад

This was fascinating, thank you!

@trinalgalaxy5943 4 года назад

Ive sais it once and I will never stop saying it. A developer can make a good game, the players make it great, but modders? modders make a game stand the test of time and become legend.

@Chrissyeah 5 лет назад

I left a nasty comment on one of your previous videos. But this content is still top notch. You sir deserve many more subs.

@thewingedpotato6463 5 лет назад

Mods? Mods. MODS! MMMMOOOOOOOOODDDSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

@roastpork5437 5 лет назад

Unreal Tournament 1 was da bomb!

@Label07 5 лет назад

Steam Workshop ftw! So much extra content from people that don't get a dime. Just another reason why I want their launcher to be my default for all PC games (not that I don't want competition, their price cut needs a second look and audit as well)

@XristoferLee 5 лет назад

I am surprised you didn't mention the game that is the Father of mod. Doom. You have to admit for a game that came out in 93 and was officially supported for mods in 97 it is still very active in the modding community.

@Flippo___ 4 года назад

omg, I just realised something: replace games with movies and the inspirations that aren't games with comics in the conclusion, and it works out perfectly

@Smumbo 3 года назад

This video made me realize how much untapped potential many of the custom games of Halo could have on the gaming industry at large. I know I've certainly played and created a few custom games that could become robust game genres all on their own.

@MassiveGhost- 2 года назад

Look at Skyrim 10 years

@Iristhornz 5 лет назад

me an amateur developer hoping my quirky multiplayer acid trip inspired story/adventure game idea could be in a video like this in 10 years.

@Deathelement53 4 года назад

any game with micro transactions will never have official mod support

@hideakiakio6698 5 лет назад

I still remember when BioWare was going to release modding tools for Dragon Age 2 and then on the day they were supposed to be released the release date was pushed back and then on that date they said "we don't know what you're talkin about we were never going to release modding tools we have never supported modding" even though they released modding tools for Dragon Age Origins.

@barbyfn 4 года назад

Since I've started modding Sacred 2 (my first big game), I never could play again a game in which I can't change anything, even in WoW I'm addicted to customize with addons.