No, There Will Never Be a Genshin Killer | Asmongold Reacts 

Like most rational people probably already know, the only killer to Genshin is itself.

I spent more money on WoW buying the expansions and subscriptions then i've spent in Genshin Impact in a 3 year period. Genshin does not force you to spend. Decided to put 5 dollars per month to the game since i'm not forced to do so, and its a way of thanks to the developer for making a good game.

The Genshin killer is the never ending grind for artifact RNG

Calling anime style open world games "Genshin killer" is like calling Saints Row games "GTA killer", see how that one turned out

Genshin characters are just too outstanding. Even if you quit the game, there is that one moment that you might want to play Genshin Impact again.

The standard reaction to the first few hours in Genshin is invariably "Wait... This game is actually good. I wasn't expecting that". It's a bit of an unsolvable conundrum. The game is so engaging that you end up lamenting the fact that it's a Gacha game (i.e: you're missing part of it if you're not whaling). But at the same time, you have to acknowledge that the game's unparalleled production value is supported by... the gacha.

This man will never understand the appeal of genshin impact until he actually play it which he will not

Genshin devs actually tried raising difficulty (like fighting three maguu kenki at once with insane debuffs) from time to times, but the community didn't really give much positive feedback for it, so here we are. Maybe the target audience of the game mostly just want a world to enjoy running around and get to know the lore.

calling a game the 'genshin killer' is like a curse... lost ark, tower of fantasy, and blue potocol were all so hyped-up as the 'genshin killer', and look where those games are now 😅

Biggest selling for genshin in my opinion is the storytelling and lore structure. Every item in genshin has a lore behind it and interestingly most of the item's lore are linked together with other story mode. For example, the one of the artifact set have connections to one of the bosses

the thing thats still keeping me in the game and is the lore and story and exploration, i am genuinly so curious about this world called teyvat and i want to explore more, i wanna learn more, theres so much lore going on and its incredibly deep, and often takes inspiration from real world facts and religious storires, (for example - paimon being names after king paimon, etc)

It is always amusing to see Asmon being so uninformed but still so convinced about his opinion.

Seeing Dragalia Lost even being referenced is saddening. That game had the most potential because instead of just collecting game art, you collected chibi player controlled ARPG characters that you would do raid battles and boss hunts. The game director did not want to alienate both the young players who couldn't afford gacha and the veteran players while also delivering on every occasion what he promised... all while choosing to not monetize the new systems he put in place. The game was so consumer friendly, after the first year, I never had to pay for any character ever (granted I paid like 300 dollars the first year for literally every character and dragon you could get). The game also did not try to capitalize on sexualization, nor did it have those cringey bullshit advertisements you had seen plastered everywhere. The only place it was every showcased was on the official Nintendo Mobile channel, and even then, it was never the forefront because Nintendo liked to play favoritism to Fire Emblem. The artist for the game was the guy who got his channel taken down by Google a couple months back, and his artwork alongside the comic artist for the game (the artist who does Hololive ID's Anya Melfissa"s art) were so charming and wholesome.

That guy so sounds like he just lost everything in his life

I'm excited to see Asmon play this game in 2029

Genshin is not only a good gatcha game... It's a great game overall. I spent 8 months in it without spending a dime. I don't really care if I get the limited five star on the banner. It doesn't matter to me because the game itself is easy and I don't need it. Meanwhile the world itself is amazing. The story after Monstadt is pretty good and it's becoming absolutely amazing in The Chasm and onwards. Exploration is incredible. Every time I search some hidden ruins and it turns out to be a maaaassive hidden location under the ground that spans for eternity with awesome lore and secrets I'm just at awe with this game. Combat is smooth as hell and enjoyable. Some quests and storyline are childish and boring, I admit, but some are absolutelly amazing and reaching the peaks of fantasy. This game is amazing and as a former WoW player I have to say... IT IS WAY LESS PAY 2 WIN AND WAY MORE F2P FRIENDLY THAN WOW HAS BEEN FOR YEARS.

Quality of the games aside, Genshin or Hoyoverse games in general are "great" especially because how much Hoyoverse enables its players outside of the game. Concerts and a multitude of other IRL events just gives people opportunities to connect and yes, even weebs want that. The fact that none of their content is copyright creates massive a symbiotic relationship with content creators.

The Genshin is pay to win argument falls short once you realize one thing: the game is to easy to be pay to win. Sure, some characters can clear content faster and even faster if you spend enough money but that's mostly really just overkill. It's pay to waifu at best

Honestly, bloat is like the best thing about genshin. I started when Necrit made his video about it and it having been constantly updated for three years, before my stepping in just made the world really large and exploring all that content was great.

That Brontosaurus comparison had me spitting my drink LMAO

asmon is actually preety brilliant, he has garnered an entire audience of players for a game he dosent play, i gotta admire that

I don't mind having a secondary gacha game like Reverse 1999 to play during Genshin downtimes. It's perfectly ok not to have a Genshin killer, just another game to play.

Crazy how Asmon has never played genshin yet he watches all these genshin videos

FGO is made in 2015 that’s why is has a really outdated “card” gameplay. It’s still going on strong to this day tho which is impressive.

I don’t get the obsession with “Genshin Killers” two games can be very successful at once. PGR is an amazing game, WW will be amazing in the end product I’m sure, Kuro do a great job but it doesn’t have to kill off another game to be a success. Remember, WW is not in its end product, Genshin and Honkai are both finished and flushed out products so we can’t really say if it’s trash or not. Also Kuro seem to enjoy the whole post apocalyptic style, which I do too. They take inspiration from Neir

The Genshin killer will be Genshin, just like WoW is the WoW killer and Pokemon is the Pokemon killer. Some games or franchises get so significant that they'll have to collapse from within before another game or franchise can overtake them.

excited to see asmon finally play genshin when the heavenly principles boss fight drops

there is too much people who play genshin impact that refuse to play another damn game like they are already so accustomed to playing the same game all the time that they just do not want to play a new game

Genshin didn't normalize pay to win in the west, it normalized pay to simp. Pay to win was always normal in the west.

As someone who plays FGO, I personally don't think it's a "bad game". Sure if it's not your cup of tea then it's just not your cup of tea. One thing I'm curious about though is: How do you define a "pay to win" game? Because I've heard that term be used too often over the years that I've started to think that it's a term that is used loosely nowadays. I dont consider Genshin to be a "pay to win" type of game became you don't actually have to pay a single cent to play it and experience the entire world of Teyvat and all that comes with it. When I think of an example of a "pay to win" game I immediately think of things like Destiny 2, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Halo 5, etc.

To be fair, Genshin's made the perfect formula to earning millions. The cycle of money is just perfect, the whales spend, and that money is being put back into the production value of the game. It justifies spending for whales unconsciously, sure they spend to get that character, but they justify spending so much since they know it'll probably come back to them in the form of better content.

I'm more curious about Genshin's future after Snezhnaya. After Celestia. Will there even be a bigger story after that? If not, will I even bother staying because of some weird sense of investment I might possibly have with the game? Maybe the opposite happens and I decide that I've already had my fill. Who knows.

You can have a game look gritty or dark but you still have to put some elements of life and beauty to show the contrast, you can't have all the characters have an Ayanami Rei personality with big weapons and grayscales or angry/tragic past dudes looking for vengeance with shades of gray, blue and red, at some point you ask what's the point? this world is doomed as it is, everyone looks so done.

Genshin Impact has a 10-year roadmap, so we'll have to wait until 2030+ for a Genshin Killer.

Its like LOL its worst enemy is itself

So did he finally explain why he decides to play every single genshin wannabe but refuses to play genshin itself?

Im a huge souls fan, huge gamer in general. Have been since about 6 years old, so 27 years and ill say this, genshin is fun af and the the fontaine update is the best one yet IMO.

God I'm addicted to these asmongold+genshin videos!

Genshin's world building, its characters, its atmosphere, and its combat hold up very well. It's plotline can vary between people, but you cant take any of those away. You could have better combat, but everything else will probably end up suffering. Despite it being a Chinese mobile gacha game, I'm still surprised by the amount of passion put into it. And the only people who will tell you that it's otherwise, are people who either have never played Genshin, people who are chronically on Genshin, or people who got a taste for it and wasnt their type of game. The improvement and active adjustment of overall game design throughout the exploration, throughout the questing, all of it has seen tremendous improvements over the years. It's actually astonishing how much the feedback in the surveys ends up reaching the game. The only exception being quality of life features which were funneled into Star Rail instead, because of it being their new game. Though now it's steadily making its way into Genshin.

so early nobody will see I put my milk in before my cereal

a really good thing i feel hoyoverse is trying at least is to not have their games overlap with each other they space out releases between honkai impact, honkai star rail and genshin impact so people can actually interact with all the games and the perfect of example of them wanting you to do this is how if you make an account on 1 of these 3 games the other 2 will recognize that account if you try to log into them

The real reason is that Mihoyo is a freaking beast of a company, they won't let this or Honkai to die, they can advertise it everywhere, starting in China because you have Genshin characters almost everywhere. Also even my local newspaper in my country covered Genshin when never did something like this for any game. It's kinda crazy.

I think people underestimate how damn hard it was to even make GI, to the point where the devs said "if they knew, they would NOT make the game." So before you kill GI, try to make a good Genshin clone first 😮

This guy sounds like he has been unironically hoping for a genshin killer and just finally gave up.

Asmon literally contradicts himself trying to paint Genshin as a Pay 2 win game, then immediately followed by saying it's a baby easy game, and people can beat everything if you're just decent at it. Haters gonna hate i suppose.

FGO is popular for it’s story & unique illustration from different artist. That’s why fgo survive for so long. It’s basically can co-exist with any gacha games in the market. Nothing to rush in FGO cause the damn story update every 4 months. Unlike new gacha game story, where as the devs need to push new content every 2 weeks. Which cause many story issues imo. Genshin 2.1, 2.2, Star rail 1.3, 1.4…. The stories are just inconsistent.

Genshin could take a 50% annual revenue drop and it would still be massively profitable. Eventually the game will see a slow down but it'll be years at the earliest. By then Hoyoverse will likely have more games of a similar style ready to go. Maybe even a spin off (like HSR) or a direct sequel like they are making for HI3.

Okay. This might be a long one. Bear with me. 1) I agreed with most of what Asmon said but this will be the first time I will have to disagree a bit with his take regarding _"Wuthering Waves."_ The game was in Beta, it wasn't finished. Sure a lot of stuff wasn't introduced yet, the characters weren't voiced fully etc. but calling it outright 'Garbage' is a bit of an understatement. Also, the 'Depressing vibe' is the main theme of a post-apocalyptic world. Knowing PGR (Punishing Gray Ravens) that game is built on depression. So it fits quite well with where they are going. The Beta looked 'Stale' but not garbage. No, No. Absolutely false. 2) Regarding the bosses. I remember clearly as day when Asmon played the beta and fought _'The Crownless'_ boss and he lost to it. It was a tutorial boss because he couldn't Parry correctly. It looked like a skill issue to me. :-D It could be challenging but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Also, this game has a high focus on Combat. Those who have played PGR will know. The game is not for pussy. Overall, I mostly agree with the rest. WW won't kill Genshin but a good competition for sure. I feel that WW will take a niche place between Tryhards and Casuals while Genshin is catered for mostly casuals. P.S. Project Mugen vs WW? Nah dawg, that's bullshit.

Genshin story and lore are just 😚👌. And genshin are perfect for casual gamers who like story, exploring and a little bit of action

a Genshin killer is like a COD killer, there won't be, you can coexist but you won't replace it because the phenomenon took over in the right moment with the "right" formula

People do not understand how good most Genshin's story is. The Fontaine main questline just wrapped up and my fiance was on the verge of tears next to me while I was just glued to the screen for no less than three straight hours. This team writes an _incredible_ story. This game is, on it's absolute worst day, a playable TV series with too many filler episodes, and on it's best day, it's one of the most charming, detailed, beautiful pieces of artwork the games industry has ever produced. This game is pay to win done right, resources used well. They take that good will and pour it right back into the game.

The term "Genshin Killer" appeared when ToF marketing decided to call itself that. And everyone who seem to think that going against mainstream is cool now uses that term as a throw in to every Open World Anime game, which is insulting to both Genshin and the game they are using the term in.

You need to have lovable characters that would make you want to play with them. You can’t have just good play mechanics and expect a game to be good. Best things that Genshin has going on for it that I keeps me hooked is the story and the soundtracks and characters. Gameplay is not one of the most important things that kept me in the game

Just like World of Warcraft and League of Legends, you can't 'kill' a popular game, the game can only remove itself from popularity and eventually die, but cannot be replaced simply because another similar game is there.

When a ex-player of a game wants the game to die is the same as breaking up with someone and hoping the rest of their life sucks.

Genshin Impact player here. we don't pay to win, we pay to simp...

I think that the music, lore and characters alone can carry this game

The game runs just soo good and there is soo much content and engagement. I'm still amazed how beautiful the game is. There are a lot of eye-opening moments when you reach almost every major city and important structure. Its hard to fault them for the gacha when its the ONLY reason the game looks this good and still gives us more content regularly than any other game out there.

I'm one of those burned out genshin players, got really tired of login in, doing dailies/weeklies, getting out and from time to time doing the Abyss, that was getting more and more annoying than really difficult... And yeah man, i really wanted another game with a similar combat system... The elemental system on Genshin is so cool 👌

3:48 Rofl gonna be hard to rework the game when Kuro fired like hundred of people after they were done working on most of the thing 4:40 flashy is just tastless however.

Nothing about Wuthering Waves has me excited to play it, and I'm a huge fan of PGR. I don't think it would succeed even if Genshin didn't exist.

In FGO's defense, the game came out a lot earlier than Genshin and I don't think fully 3D gacha game was a thing when it came out. Only thing that came to mind was Shironeko project and that was chibi 3d. And as far as 2D graphic goes FGO is actually pretty up there.

It would've been nice if Asmon watched Genshin Abyss playthrough by a pro

WW will not kill Genshin... but I do believe it will give healthy competition. Kuro has masterfully handled PGR over time, and listens to feedback. If you look at CN now it's actually insane. I am really looking forward to WW. A lot of the criticisms are valid though.

Genshin has 2 good things that keep me playing. 1. Neuvilette. 2. Neuvilette's story quest.

I still play Genshin and if you could say that to Wuthering Waves, then you'll definitely burn-out fast in Genshin. I'm only sticking with Genshin for the story and lore. But at this point I treat it more like a playable anime than an action game. Challenge is literally 30 mins a month with every dprial abyss resets and some events. The only problem I currently see with WW is their similar systems and mechanics with Genshin. I have no glaring issue with the art direction and character designs. Also, art direction is so subjective. I for one prefer the dark and gloomy tone and the yoji shinkawa tech wear minimalist character designs than the ubiquitous colorful designs of literally all of gacha games. It's like saying Souls games slare trash because they're all gooomy and dark. If you play a lot of gacha, you'll be bombarded by similar colorful art style and character designs. That's why characters from HI3, HSR, Aether Gazer, ToF, Higan could all fit in a single game universe exactly because their designs are so similar to each other. That is colorful and busy. Meanwhile, the likes of PGR and WW, maybe even some characters from Path to nowhere and arknights will stand out ironically because they are brave enough to go minimalist a la nier or MGS. From the looks of it, Asmon prefers the safer approach catered for the majority of consumers, that is bright and saturated colorful designs. Even color theory "proves" that. Being said, Punishing Gray Raven is all I need. Wuthering Waves being successful will just be very welcome extra. 😂

Kind of confused why Asmon hates FGO that much lol. Doesn't even seem like it bit him in the wallet or whatever

The only thing that could kill genshin is mihoyo themself

The funny thing is developer make games for casual now so there will be really few games that can even make it to a genshin killer. Also they would need huge founding for good quality and life service.

I haven't spent a single dollar in this game and i have Eight 5 star characters and innumerable number of 4 stars and just about to get another five star. And that too all my favourite ones just for in-game gameplay. I dont think any other game gives u this much opportunity to get cosmetics let alone 5 star characters.

Genshin was supposed to be a 5 year game, but due to how popular it was at launch, Hoyo decided to expand it into a 10 year plan, which you can kinda see with each nation lasting for almost a year now and being much larger than the first two.

The one true Genshin killer game will be the game that has a skip button for dialogue

Genshin is actually pretty good at handling bloating. They just don't add too much permanent content in the game

The only thing that can "kill" Genshin is itself... So far, I don't think that there are anything close to it.(Music, Environment and stuffs)

asmon is gonna be that 1 guy that played every genshin killer, every genshin clone, any other new game from genshins developer, but he will never play genshin itself

I think something a lot of these kind of videos and even Asmond misses is that a lot of children plays Genshin Impact, and I mean A LOT, huge amounts. And games like Tower of Phantasy or Wuthering Waves are not gonna take that teenage public because they have more hardcore gameplay plus hardcore systems.

Genshin is somewhat similar to Blizzard in the sense that it's too massive to collapse suddenly, but rather, it might experience small hiccups over an extended period of time for it to eventually fall. Although they might not be perfect, they at least have good games for the fans to enjoy.

FGO is still the only gacha I'll ever play.

13:34 Ain't no way someone said Genshin is VASTLY superior to Zelda. 💀

Genshin as a game itself has already killed itself for like 2 years ago. Its a game for only new players not for veterans. They killed the game by making the game only be relevant in Story and map exploration.

16:42 Yeah Genshin is not Pay to Win at all The reason people pay is just because they like the characters. No Genshin player is spending that much money because they NEED it to Beat the Game. They don't need to at all I can just say "Bennett, Xiangling, Xingqiu(and others)" and any Genshin player would know these day one 4 stars are so strong they're part of Genshin's top Characters to this day, and 1 of them is unlockable without even doing the Gacha

Genshin is like pokemon. Basically impossible to coexist with it without being seen as a killer type of game.

9:19 bruh, Genshin's lore isn't just surface-level. I mean the main story can be understood at the surface level becauae it has to be accessible to casuals too, but for lore enthusiasts, Genshin lore is a treasure trove. And even if you just read about the lore on a wiki instead of trying to dig it in-game, you'll find a lot of history and other interesting stuff about characters. There's a reason why there are a lot of Genshin lore content creators and enjoyers.

Can’t wait for Asmon to finally play this game a week before the servers go down.

Genshin isn't pay to win, there's basically no competition against real people.

People don't understand that you should take breaks playing gacha games. I quit genshin after summeru patch 3.0 and return to complete quest at 3.3 and had blast.

Genshin is pay to beat a boss in 5 seconds instead of 15 second.

This reminds me of when people make Destiny2 killer videos and in the end the real destiny2 killer was bungie. 😢

i'd argue that the reason why there's a demand for a genshin killer is actually due to genshin fans themselves. there's two major factions in the fandom, people who heavily criticize the game and want more challenging content vs. people who don't really care and find the game's difficulty and QoL fine as it is. obviously, the critical fans are the ones who desire a 'genshin killer', so that hoyoverse can finally get some competition. it's indisputable that genshin is the top gacha game right now, but say another one to come up and do what genshin does but better... wouldn't that light a fire under hyv's ass to actually improve the game? hence why you see a lot of genshin fans themselves actually discuss the idea of a 'genshin killer' (tectone, for instance) and how they're going to switch games constantly.

Genshin can only slow down when the game ends, it actually won't die

The deadpan delivery on heepers voice was AWESOME, though I think it's even easier to make the case for Genshin Impact if you were to make a historical case for it based on COVID. It struck gold when everyone was looking for something to do and something to spend money on while stuck inside. And then Hoyoverse MASSIVELY re-invested that into the game and the music and the VAs, sparing no expense to drive out the best game the Unity engine can even support. And they put it all on a CRAZY release schedule. We're talking 4-6 weeks between major patches with new characters, new regions, new puzzles, new events, new quests, new music. I really can't understate how insanely productive Hoyoverse has been to keep up with that schedule, but it's certainly helped with their popularity by always releasing something new and exciting.

This reminds me of the countless wow killers... and in the end it was suicide that brought the giant down. Hopefully people take notes

Even tho it has allot of flaws it is way to polished and high quality for any other game at the time to compete.

Genshin is already a dead game, you cannot kill it twice.

What if the real genshin killer was the friends we made on the way

Ironically being labed as breath of the wild copy is the one of the reason why the game got popular back in the day😅

hey guys, im from 2027 i managed a way to comment in the past. So, tsaritsa's second rerun comes out next week. and asmon said he will play genshin next week. super excited to see his reaction.

FGO is superior by default since it gives you the option to skip dialogues unlike Genshin where you sit through hours of pieces of shit villagers talking about their meaningless bullshit.

It's weird how Asmon thinks Genshin is p2w but also acknowledges that the hardest content in the game is super easy. To be honest, considering powercreeping in these service games, if a f2p player can eventually beat the game, the game is being really f2p friendly. People pay in this game mostly because they like the characher, yes, simping basically.

It's a weird expression the something-killer. Even something considerably better doesn't "kill" its predecessor. To "kill" something, you'd be talking about making something completely obsolete. Like, the computer and keyboard killed the typewriter.