Yea, this is really cool detail. ONI Sword Base is my favourite mission and whenever I hear, "Thank you, Lieutenant. You have been cleared for access!" I thought it meant it recognised Noble Six as just a Spartan, but now you've confirmed the meaning behind it
And I wouldn't say it's not the same when they got the same if not harsher and deadlier training considering they were disposable compared to the spartan 2s
@@space_racc lmao what? That doesn't even make sense. It's like saying conscript battalions get better and harsher training cause they're disposable. The whole point of disposables is they're cheap and worse in quality; that's what Spartan IIIs are compared to the Spartan IIs.
@@australianword3812 they're cheap only because they don't get mjolnir and the augmentations were made more efficient. If they'd been given the same armor as a 2 they'd perform just as well. we've seen with noble team that a spartan 3 can do the same things a 2 can, to the same effectiveness. They were the same quality of the 2s, ONI was just given the green light to make so many of them to throw at suicide ops because the 2s proved their worth and ONI was growing more desperate. If you swapped the situations of the 2s and 3s, with the same numbers, the outcomes wouldn't have been much different aside from plot armor related instances.
@@space_racc yes, they are the exact same quality. These carefully chosen soldiers, the cream of humanity, further augmented (chemically and surgically) to be the creme de la creme are of equal quality to orphans from war-torned homes simply given the juices and training of a Spartan II and none of the parts (+roids) P.S. Efficiency ≠ Quality
@@space_racctheyre far from the same. spartan 2s are genetically perfect and most died due to the augments. the ones that survive are the pinnacle of humanity, BEFORE the suits. spartan 3s are orphans that oni could take without anyone caring, and theyre given cheap, less effective but less risky procedures. a spartan 3 in mjolnir is not equal to a 2 in mjolnir. the only reason noble team is any good is because itd be stupid for the game to suddenly make you weak. its like how in odst the rookie is still way stronger than odsts canonically are
"Volunteer" is basically semantics for being conscripted. Most or all Spartan IIIs were targeted because they were Orphaned by the Covenant at extremely young ages. More or less the same age as the IIs were when they were conscripted. ONI approached the S-III candidates and basically asked these traumatized, vulnerable, orphaned and, in some cases, totally homeless children if they wanted revenge. Of course they'd say yes. So yes they volunteered, but they were already hyper-vulnerable to being taken advantage of and manipulated.
Except they weren't the same age and even the augments weren't the same because ONI couldn't replicate Halsey's formulas. Halsey looks down on every generation past II for a reason.
@@user-ko3sd9qj2h Yet those augments had the same general effects, unbreakable bones, increased strength capable of flipping cars, speed that can match a car, and reaction speed that borders on precognition. 90% of all Spartan-IIIs died at the age of 12 because all of them were thrown into a single suicide mission IMMEDIATELY after they got augmented, unlike the IIs who got time to acclimate to their augments and didn't see combat until 14. It should also be noted that their trainer, Kurt, a Spartan-II, and Chief Mendez, the same guy who trained the Spartans, outright stated that the IIIs got better training than the IIs. Even if, *IF,* their augments were the slightest bit worse, their training would make up for it.
@@starhammer5247 it's not the slightest bit worse. They are worse. Full stop. And the II's weren't trained to fight the covenant, and they weren't trained by a spartan that survived the war with the covenant either. So, of course, they got better training. II's were trained to slaughter humans. All surviving Spartan II's reign supreme. With one or two exceptions among each generation such as Noble 6 or Lock
Weren’t the SII’s chosen for very good genetics or something. I remember seeing that each of the 75 were chosen specifically for their genes or compatibility or something like that
Agree big time, idk what and why he seemed to have something against the chief. The face (ironically) of the entire halo franchise and super bad ass He’s the master chief for a reason
Master Chief is a Legend Among the UNSC to the point where he is a myth. Noble 6 was so valuable to ONI that no one even knew about him to create myths.
It's incomparable in my opinion. They did different things. Chief was on the front lines fighting with Marines and ODSTs whereas 6 was kinda doing his own shit till Halo Reach. Everyone knows Audie Murphy, but without looking it up, I assume you don't know a single member of the Seal Team that killed Bin Laden. See how it's different? 6 was kept for secret missions where Chief was a front line soldier.
It wasn't that it was "luck". It's that he always seemed to know the answer, even though there was no logic as to how he could have. His intuition was so great it looked like magic to everyone and they dismissed it at luck because there is no word for it.
The events of halo 1 would have turned out differently I'd say at least one of em prolly noble would have been on protect Keyes duty with cheif on cortana duty. I could even see cheif on the ground doing the ring stuff while noble is in space messing with arbys fleet
Halo reach is honestly the best game the first time I played really gave me tears and the Elite Marshal that hunted down noble team I didn't notice at first but when I played the game again I only noticed that Elite group hunt all of noble team down and great vid by the way
They called all Spartans demons, because they were convinced they weren’t humans. Which is actually why when Atriox rips one of red teams helmets away from him he says “they aren’t demons, just humans… in suits” to prove to the others why they shouldn’t be afraid of Spartans
Make sure not to forget all the surgery and death the spartan 2’s had to endure. If I remember correctly, only about 20 of the original 75 Spartans survived, including the chief himself. Also, speaking about his lethal skills, slightly after his augmentation, described in the book, he accidentally killed a number of experienced ODST’s in a ring fight, their limbs bent in wrong ways and many broken bones. So, don’t mess with the chief! 😂
also before 6 was moved from ONI to Noble team, the handler for 6 was reluctant to authorise the transfer and referred to 6 as being his own personal grim reaper.
Says that Spartan 3s and 4s look cooler than Spartan 2s, but realizes that he just pissed off the most fashionable Spartan in existence... Sargeant Johnson (SPARTAN 1)!
@titanlordoggaming4840 Johnson was part of the Orion (I think that's what it was called) project, which led to nearly all participants dying, or going insane from their injections. He was one of the only survivors (it also made him resistant to flood infection, but that's honestly some weird bs they just made up). The reason there are no Spartan 1's was to pay respect to everyone that died in the Orion Project.
Spartan III: "but we look cooler then Chief anyway so suck on that-" Master Chief: *teleports behind you* "I heard you were talking shit about my drip." Spartan III: *high pitch scream*
They called all the Spartans demons, they viewed humans as heratics and felt that Spartans mightve been something else, something supernatural since they were so much larger, stronger, and covered in armor. Considering that one alone could turn the tide of battle and had much better armor than themselves, on top of that face coverings were a sign of dishonor to the covenant and didn't do it unless necessary such as pilots or spec ops(which was made with the intent of inducing fear). Chief really only predominantly took the title after he blew up installation 04 which was a covenant holy site. The arbiter fought a spartan before he became ship master, before reach I believe, and recalled being terrified when he looked into his face(visor) and all he saw was his own reflection
@@urielbanuelos150 i believe it's towards the end of the Cole Protocol book when he faces Jai who had come back to get the ODST he killed. Jail was giving him a very hard fight but when he noticed the man he came back for was dead he simply left without a single word spoken. The stoic silence and the ferocity of the Spartan utterly terrified Thel in that moment.
Locke - “Your people used to call him demon.. was that an insult, or a compliment?” Arbiter - “An insult to be sure, but one with a modicum of respect. He was indeed my enemy, but in time I named him ally, even friend. I really don’t think they called all Spartans demons, I think they called John “the demon” and then his clan (the Spartans) were then demons because they were “related” to him.
Elites have similar armor to Spartans just not as much special training. But for the most part they’re supposed to be the formidable opponents against Spartans.
Technically, spartan 3s were orphans that were pretty much given the opportunity to seek revenge, and seeing an oni rep called him his personal grim reaper. I think he would hold his own before ultimately losing to master chief
They were both the only ones with the Hyper-Lethal rating among Spartans, so it will be a close fight, but sadly, the inferior augmentations of the Spartan 3 program are juat going to be too short to beat Master Chief's Spartan 2 augmentations. They're both legends that would have been an amazing duo, but in a fight against each other, it will come down to the augmentations.
@@silentkhaos1176this argument keeps getting thrown around but no the augments for 3s were in no way “inferior” than the 2s, instead it was in a way refined as instead of being surgically grafted it was chemically done through drugs, installation 00 did a really nice job explaining this. I think the whole inferior thing comes from the books and as far as I can tell, the game lore > novels as what the creators said.
Hed hold his own against a young john from cole protocol era. He wouldnt hold his own against a shadows of reach MC. People dont read the books nor realize the truth strength that MC has. Hes generally undersold especially by reach fans.
@rushpatriot2866 Yes, and no, that's the biggest issue since Noble 6 didn't have a lot of lore. Besides, he worked with oni and was the only other hyper lethal and labeled as a personal grim reaper. If he was anything like the head hunters, his skills alone would put him equal to a spartan. 2. But noble 6 would hold his own, and John would be impressed that a spartan 3 could stand toe to toe to a spartan 2, but he would always lose no matter what. And let's be honest, being able to stand against John for 10 mins or less is impressive alone
Ok, Master Chief vs Noble 6 with the Spartan IV treatment. And let's be real, they wouldn't fight each other, they'd team up and proceed to out and out annihilate the enemies of peace.
It isnt about them teaming up, it is about who would win also S4 < S3. S4 isnt a spartan 3 getting an upgrade. S4 program is adult unaugmented becoming a spartan. The S4's are weaker than an S3 but they are close when in armor.
Six was inducted into the Spartan-III program at the same age the Chief did, the only difference was that Six volunteered to join in order to get revenge against the Covenant. In terms of Size, it's only an inch or so difference. Training was extremely different as Chief was trained by normal humans while Six was trained by Kurt (a Spartan-II) who admitted the 3's got better training than he did as well as the washouts from Alpha company. All Spartan-IIIs joined the war at 12 years old. Spartan-IIs joined at 14.
@@stepanklym3463 It's in a book, and it's all canon. Not quite sure which book, but it heavily featured Kurt, and I think Blue Team popped in for a quick second where we got an idea of where they all stand.
Also, heads up, noble 6, as a lone wolf, crippled hundreds of covenant ships and killed thousands of elites. There is more as well, but that's a couple things I wanted to mention
Where did you get this info? The only record about Six is that he was a Lone Wolf and counter-terrorist operator before Noble. Also he was a Sabre test pilot at one time.
Masterchief is a line breaker. He is the lord of the battlefield, unmatched head to head. Noble six is a black operator. (Head hunters were the UNSC's assassins.) Assuming he has time to set up, he has the best chance out of anyone to beat masterchief. Head on, and Noble six will be as soundly beaten as Locke SHOULD have been.
This is spot on. I really don’t see 6 taking out Chief in any way 1 v 1. There’s not an attribute he’s better at aside from stealth. Important, but with Chief having Cortana, he’s pretty much aware of his surroundings almost all the time.
@@darkesthourstudios nice try buddy. The covenant was gonna glass reach whether Six existed or not. Six was just there as another Spartan to try and stop the covies. Trying to claim that as a feat for Noble 6 is absurd.
@@Marcello2005 Dude he lasted WEEKS fighting them. WEEKS. He was a unit who took multiple energy sword hits and kept fighting. AND If noble 6 never existed the likelihood Chief would ever have been as good as he is is so extremely low it’s not funny. The second to final mission in reach noble 6 delivers Cortana to the pillar of autumn before the final stand against the covenant begins. Six stands a chance and’ll give chief a hard fought victory, but with Cortana chief would win.
@@darkesthourstudios noble 6 delivering Cortana has nothing to do with who would win a fight between him and chief. And yes, 6 took on a lot of enemies for an extended period of time, but it’s nothing Chief hasn’t done before.
Spartan 3s were also taken at a a young age, and raised to be a super soldier. So they are actually on a much more even ground than you would think. Also They didn’t call Chief demon because of his deadliness but because his armor was the most common, so whenever the covenant killed a spartan wearing that armor, another one just like him would appear later. The covenant thought this warrior was unkillable, thus the name Demon.
There's also the fact that even though ONI is totally fucked up they are incredibly helpful, they started the "Spartans Never Die" propaganda, and stuff not only to increase moral for the losing humans but to put fear into the winning covenant.
@@Wyrm7774 originally the spartans all had the same armour. When the covenant killed one and a different spartan showed up the next day looking exactly like the other ones, they started calling them demons. thats why chief is known as demon
@@FUSION865 Honestly pretty fitting in their situation. Imagine killing a dude wearing some spunky armor. Going to your ship/camp to rest for the night, then running into battle, and seeing the *_EXACT_* same armored being running at you. I would start calling them demons too if aliens did that.
I think that Chief would probably be more likely to win, it seems like he’d be more physically capable overall, but 6 is probably the most credible threat to chief in the series considering his record and similar knack for surviving impossible things and doing so with basically just his armor. Given a natural situation, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a draw, or chief winning on a technicality cause he was mortally wounded and bled out not long after
I cannot agree, chief is simply more skilled, stronger, faster and more experienced if we are using the two at their same exact points in their timeline (reach vs CE chief) If we are talking about current chief, it's not even close. 6 is getting his ass handed to him like he's a blow up doll. Chief is borderline invincible at that point, as in his shields can take energy sword hits at that point. Something strong enough to Pierce 6's shield and kill him. He is unbelievably faster and strong enough to punch atriox hard enough that atriox was forced to react, something that other Spartan IIs were completely incapable of. His experience is undeniably higher and due to his wider range of everything by that point he's definitely also more skilled. CE chief vs 6 is a fair fight where chief wins, but Infinite Chief vs 6 is a thrashing. I highly doubt that 6 could actually mortally wound Chief at all, but saying he couldn't hurt CE chief is just disingenuous.
@@tasonjodd5151 Well i agree with you , but we also need to consider that noble 6 would also go in missions during the time chief was in the halos etc. So noble would also adquire new skill sets and abilities to use and also more expirience, which could lead not also to maybe noble 6 outcome chief , or maybe get even worse. We will never know, the good thing is that we can still imagine this stuff which makes halo universe even more beautifull, and also knowing theres another spartan that was as fcking strong as chief is impressive. Plus imagine if noble 6 was a spartan in the same program as chief. Holy crap that would be so fcking op having them both fighting by theire side. Covenant who? xD
I feel like the fact that John was a Spartan every day of his life is the only thing making it so sure a fight. Learning to live and grow up with that mentality and living as an enhanced human most of his life. Closes any gap left in equipment, training, and reaction times.
@@yorhano.2typeb141 Because he’s a Jack of all trades. He’s the second or third in all categories except bravery and luck. He has extremely high amounts of bravery and luck which makes him do things no master of one category could do. That’s hyper lethal
@@yorhano.2typeb141 Every spartan is the second or third best in all categories and has extremely high amounts of luck and bravery who can go toe to toe with the entire covenant multiple times, dismantling their fleets and destroying halos almost single handedly? Interesting logic
Wasn't there also that scene in 4 where Chief was aged to peak humanity by that space wizard lady? You know that long cutscene where it's just dialogue in the clouds.
We see him getting stabbed by HOW MANY Sangheli? He's dead, he died a Lone wolf protecting the Cargo that would go on to save all of the Halo Verse at least 5 times
Bro he’s stuck in a planet that has no resources necessary for living (water and food) and no way out. If he survived that encounter with those elites he would still be wounded and have nowhere to recover, he’s dead, it’s sad but true.
Dude, Spartan III's were orphans who were inducted into the program between the ages of four to six. Spartan III's were trained by a Spartan II (Kurt-051). The Spartan III's were put into the field far younger than the Spartan II's and were put into some of the worst situations imaginable. If a Spartan III survived the suicide mission they were sent on, they were pulled and put into CAT-2 Spartan III special forces. They were either outfitted in Mjolnir, or if they were Headhunters, they'd be given armor that's more tactically efficient than SPI Armor. Spartan III's were an absolute force to reconned with. Chief would beat Spartan B-312, but Chief would be beaten damned near to death by the time the fight ended.
Yes! Someone who has done the required reading, thank you every just thinks that because chief is a Spartan II it's an automatic win but the III's are terrifying when you actually read their lore and how they where brought into the program.
Spartan 3 didnt have advanced armor (they wore SPI armor), they didn't have advanced AI assistance, and they were made for suicide mission just to slow down the covenant. You can not compare them to Spartan 2's. They were made for different reasons. Its like comparing hypercars to sports car. But noble team pulled off the impossible though, being hunted by Zealots, and still completing the missions (winter contingency) and delivering the package.
No no no see when Spartan III's were made, 3 companies were made, alpha, beta, and gamma. Now almost all of the Spartan III's from every company died,But secretly, ONI held back some Spartans from each company as part of the headhunters initiative and these Spartans had the superior mjolnir armour. And it just so happens that NOBLE team was one of the most renowned teams that were part of the headhunters initiative
Noble 6 was so deadly. ONI used to drop him off on covenant captured planets to assassinate some HVT. And he would return successfully. His skills were terrifying that he had got the name as the 'grim reaper' spartan. He technically could have used those same stealth assassin skills to somehow hijack small slipspace drive covenant transport and get off reach but he didn't want to. He must had grown really close to team noble and thought that its his time now as well. Or he was really mad like doomslayer and just wanted to kill as many covies until his last breath to avenge reach.
Had six made it off of reach on the pillar of autumn, the covenant would’ve been completely fucked. Chief and Six together would’ve been unstoppable. Add the arbiter in there and then just now way.
He would make a 20 yr old MC work for it halo infinite MC doesn't break a sweat. A weaker kelly with worse armor man handled a spartan 3 in ghost of onxy. The 3 had spi but even with power armor the outcome wouldnt be too different. Kelly being thr fastest human in existence. Notice how all the spartan 2s hold the records not the 3s
@rushpatriot2866 not comparable. Noble 6 isn't the same as any other s3. They were classed a personal reaper and a hyper lethal before the revisions of lethality back when ONLY MC and 6 were hyper lethal. 6 has a 50/50 they can kill S2s they killed entire armadas of covies solo NO ai where as chief needed help and AI and luck.
No. Hyper lethal was created for marketing and S2 outmatch an S3 almost always. The cheif isnt the best at anything. He was a jack of all trades. There are multiple S2 that would be close.
@@Sentient-Noodlei think alot of s2 would be close but i dont think any could acc beat him. Those that are stronger are worse in other categories eg slower or not as good a shot, this applies to those that are faster, more accurate ect.
@@thestormthatisapproaching1872 yeah but a lot of S2s are still going to be very good at their entire purpose. They'd then use their strength to their advantage because that's what you fuckin do. Many S2s could and would be around the same.
He could activate a “super super soldier mode” that makes him strong enough to break mjolnir IV armor while sacrificing his rational thinking abilities
Noble Six has one joker to play in a fight. If his meds run out. Spartan III's have a special implant that is kept in suspension via special meds. If they run out like in a prolonged combat situation that is outside their mission scope, the implant kicks off and removes the biological limiter humans have at the cost of a lot of higher brain function. In ghosts of onyx it was noted that a Spartan III becomes strong enough to dent Mk V Mjolnir
The augment was for a specific company of 3s if I recall correctly, noble 6 not being a part of that company so he didn't get this augmentation, but if he had, who knows?
At just 22 years of age, Noble Six was the only other Spartan aside from the masterchief rated as "hyper-lethal" which is impressive for a Spartan-III and basically says all you need to know about him.
@@Sentient-Noodle Oh sorry, you're talking about that bullshit fanfiction made up by the wannabe studio who ruined Halo. My bad. I don't consider anything beyond Halo 3 canon. It's easier that way.
If they got noble 6 to survive (i know he's dead in lore) but if they did they could have had him chase down Chief in Halo 5. It would have been so much better. Because think about it. He's is a Spartain we have played an entire game with and developed Some sort of relationship with. Locke just seemed like he was pulled out of thin air and tried taking over lol.
Noble six has a higher kill count. He was ONIs assassin. The lone wolf mission alone by lore he killed hundreds before he was taken out, before that he destroyed entire armys alone.. alone that is not a feet to be taken lightly theres a reason hes the only spartan 3 to be hyperlethal, ONIs personal assassin, headhunter, and so on. Chief works in teams he is a jack of trades master of none yes he has luck on his side but thatll only get you so far. Reguardless who wins this both are going to damn near kill each other.
Noble 6 does not have a kill count in the billions. You beed to stop underestimating chief, he didn’t survive all that time on blind luck. He know’s how to capitalize on opportunities when they present themselves. Since when is being ONIs lapdog an indication of him having a higher kill count then chief.
Fun fact the gen 1 armor enhances the user's capabilities without restraint where were Gen 2 has a limitations. Spartan 4s in gen2 mjolnir powered assault armour it's as strong as a Spartan 2 in mjolnir gen 1 armour. To add to this futher gen 3 is stronger then both gen 1 and 2. And that a little further on the all of this noble 6 vs Master Chief is a bit closer than you would imagine although I do believe the master chief does beat Noble six in the end due to a longer career, greater degree of experience, and a better set of augmentations. Noble Six is still nothing to be chalked up as if he is nothing impressive specimen.
I'll give Noble 6 the fact that the covenant deemed it easier to glass a planet then send more elites to try to kill him and that's pretty badass that you force an entire race to do that for one spartan
The covenant literally doesn't send down troops if there's no point in it. So no they didn't glass 6 because they were too scared of him (any first blade of the silent shadow would be itching to fight him) they did it because they had no reason to send troops
Not kidnapped, spartan threes were given the option of joining the program, but being orphans of glassed worlds they weren't really going to say no were they?
The term “ hyper lethal” was a marketing ploy by bunige to get people excited about a non Master chief main character. All spartans are designated hyper lethal. While Master chief was the original “demon” most spartans are called “demons”, side note ODSTs are sometimes referred to as “imps” which are lesser demons. Finally for those that are curious the animation was made by halofollower.
In lore they both are the only ones to have hyper lethal in their record. It's official and canon. However I would argue the excuse that because we are the ones playing them in campaign that means both Six and Chief are hyper lethal as they are the only two characters we play as in a main line game... Besides Locke but we don't talk about that, he doesn't count.
@@commanderhurst3283 the only mention of them being both hyper lethal is in the halo reach trailer. It’s been retconned since with the devs stating all Spartans are hyper lethal.
Your description of spartan III is actually a spartan IV, III were also children who were trained from extremely young ages. Their stories are crazy and they could easily go toe to toe with a II and easily win, that being said, even tho 6 is my favorite, chief is taking the W
If I remember, IIIs started predominantly arounf pre-teens to early teens, while IIs started at around 6 years. There was a downgrade in augments and strength, but significantly increased survivability and thus numbers. IVs is where the strength really took a dive and was able to be applied to a fully grown unaugmented human, thus giving an entire army of augmented soldiers. This is all drawing from memory, so don't set me ablaze if I got things wrong.
@@dr.insanity9087didnt spartan III had weaker shields/ armor during reach because the resources were low and to account for the increased number of spartan III
@@poopyjoe7435 MJOLNIR wasn't standard issue for the SPARTAN IIIs because of it's cost, stated to be as much as a frigate. They could wear it, but strapping a military combat ship onto all of the unproven in combat SPARTAN IIIs wasn't cost effective. Their standard issue armour was somewhere between MJOLNIR and whatever SPARTAN IVs got, but distinguished and exceptional SPARTAN IIIs were sometimes issued MJOLNIR armour.
@@dr.insanity9087 huh? IIIs were fielded at 12. the augmentations were described as being far ahead of a IIs in terms of safety and were described to be equal in potency. IIIs in training were anywhere between 4-8 years old.
@@orangejuice8140 I thought 3s were war orphans in recruited in the age range I specified, 2s were kidnapped children and 4s was a conversion that could be applied to most soldiers. Feel free to correct me tho. I'm a pretty casual fan of Halo, so my understanding of lore can be poor at times.
The Spartan IIIs were chosen teenagers and young adults who had their home worlds glassed by the Covenant, so yes. They all very much had an extra layer of determination to fight
Spartan 4 volunteered for the position as adults enlisted in the UNSC. Spartan 3 were orphans taken into the Spartan program. Spartan 2 were kidnapped after determining they were genetically perfect for the role. Then there is Spartan Sgt. Johnson
@@joshuaandersonanderson5509this is a common misconception. III’s got the same implants as the II’s, but they were safer. Furthermore, in general, III’s had better training as well.
@alottadamage8192 no 3s didn't get the thyroid implant and they were only better in teams 2s have been fighting there whole life they were built to last 3 were build cheaper and weaker
Man we need a animated seeing of Halo showing the Spartan 2 program and early days of the war then to the Spartan 3 program with Kurt and Mendez training them
Y'know what I'll fucking take that, I see myself in Noble 6's shoes way more than greeny mc armors cause I am way too used to feeling vulnerable but good enough to kick some ass...ODST's better though
Spartan 3s were primarily composed of vengeful orphans from worlds that were attacked by the covenant. While technicality they "volunteered," they didn't have much of a choice.
You know that all the members of noble were augmented up to the spartan two standard and even though they "volunteered" they also were children when propositioned to join the spartan three program. Near the same age as all spartan twos were when abducted. And noble teams armor was mark v b meaning noble 6 could handle the same stresses to the body as Master chief could.
No they aren't. He's a Spartan 3 which is a cheaper mass produced Spartan. They're weaker than Spartan 2's for this reason. To add to this Master Chief even among Spartan 2's was a beast.
@@herke7237 I know they are spartan 3s but if you read my comment I said they were brought up to the spartan 2 standard within noble team otherwise they wouldn't have been able to wear the mark 5 b armor
@@ODSTWend You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Spartan 3's are still super soldiers. They just aren't as enhanced as a Spartan 2. They are literally made to be a mass producible cheaper Spartan 2 which mean't their enhancements aren't as potent and their armor isn't as potent. Noble Six isn't any more enhanced than other Spartan 3's he's just more capable than them being the only Spartan 3 to be "Hyper Lethal" since they focused more on tactics and teamwork
The spartan 3s were also children when they volunteered for the spartan program. Not only that, but they also have even crazier training than what the 2's had.
@darthrange1 The spartan 2's were meant to be used against HUMAN rebels. They benefitted from better augmentation and heavier armor such as the Mjiolnr armor. The spartan 3s, on the other hand, were meant to be used against the Convenant, hence why their training was indeed far more rigorous than the 2's. The only problem is that they were meant to be cheap. Therefore, their armor and augmentations were far less impressive. There was this cool scene in the first chapter of the ghost of Onyx book where 300 spartans went up against a couple thousand convenant troops in hand to hand combat. The field was covered in blue and green blood of the covenant forces.
@@theredten3946 their training was not as rigorous as the 2’s😂. The 3 were made to be cheap yet lethal versions of Spartan. EVERYTHING from training to gear was inferior in every way compared to a 2. It’s ok to admit you’re wrong. Better than spewing lies
A common misconception about S-IIIs mainly due to them being created to trade lives for a time. S-IIIs were trained at ages ranging from 4 to 6 years old and had a tougher training regime and better augmentations than the IIs. Of course, there were some outliers like Tom and Lucy who were trained since they were 8, and Carter who If I remember correctly was 12 when he started training. I would also like to point out that every Spartan was called Demon but after the events of Halo CE, Master Chief became known as The Demon. Also, all Spartans are classified as Hyper-Lethal not just these two anymore. But John-117 is still beating him as he's a more experienced combatant.
