One of the best reviews of genius 10.. This actually explains nicely each mode and how to select it & what exactly each mode does.. Very nice for a novice home owner, who wants an all round general purpose battery charger (kids car +my car). Thank you.
Good review. Note this: some batteries, depending on the capacity and condition, will take up to 48 hours in the maintenance mode, to fully reach 100%. The single green LED will pulse until the DC voltage reaches 15.5 DC. (FACT CHECK THAT) Then the LED will turn solid Green. This is not stated in the directions, but NOCO tech support will "school" you if you are having trouble. I recharged up a standard 585 CCA lead acid battery. It took around 36 hours before the Green light turned solid. To convert the CCA to Ah, multiply the CCA rating by .7 (.725 to be precise.) I have used NOCO products for a few years now. This Genius 10 is a fine unit.
Yeah I was wondering about how long it takes even with a 10amp charger it take forever I had disconnected before full charge since I tought it be done is 24 hrs but apparently I was wrong
Yeah thanks I was totally wondering about that too! Must be like it really has to slow down from bulking the battery but then it like takes a long time to force that last little bit slowly!
I watched this video and bought the Genius10 charger from High-Tech Battery Solutions. Received it early today and it's being used right now. Everything has worked perfectly, so far. The video made understanding and using the charger much easier.
Your review was a touch above the rest as you went into the faults and explanation in a clear instructions and nice to see the buttons marked out and a quick and professional explanation on the faults that you may come across. Thanks
Man, I really appreciate this review. The user manual is very vague and quite useless and I've had trouble figuring the charger out - then I found this. Thank You!
A follow on, as I am using it now on some old agm's: When will you know when charging is completed? I've had one on my noco10 for about 5 hours and the green light just keeps pulsing slowly. When it switches to maintenance mode, does the color ribbon do something differently, essentially telling you when best effort charging is completed?
Very good video. Very informative and clearly explained. One thing you could add is the different ways the 4 charging lights(red red orange and green) behave in different scenarios relating to the charging process. I’ve noticed with the batteries I’ve been charging over the last few days that the solid green is really the only one that signifies that a battery is actually fully charged, would this be correct?
I just received the Genius 10 Charger + Maintainer, I am planning on storing my vehicle (Genesis QV 70) for the winter....Is this the correct Maintainer? Thanks
At the beginning of the video, you said the Genius 10 is the predecessor of the 7200 series. I think you meant the opposite. The 7200 series is the predecessor to the Genius 10 series.
Yes, this charger will be able to main the batteries on your semi truck - I'm assuming you have either two or four of the standard group 31 series batteries in there.
Just to confirm there is no internal battery in the GENIUS10 unit - this battery charger must be plugged into a wall outlet in order to charge a battery.
Is it safe for car electronics and for the unit itself, to leave it ON in a charging mode while working on a car(ignition ON engine OFF type scenario during reprograming or troubleshooting electrical issue) thank you for review.
Just bought one and the connectors on the charging leads won’t connect together. NOCO says send it back to the supplier or take pictures of the connector and send to them. Either way it’s unusable, so be prepared to purchase one with something defective and having to send it back. Don’t expect to buy it and then use it, unless you’re willing to splice the wires and void your warranty. What else might go wrong with this product along with bad connectors ?
What setting would you use if your leaving a car sitting for 4 month? It has a 12 volt battery in it. So red on red black on black right? Should it be plugged in prior to connecting it to the terminals? We don't have the box left it 2000 miles away...... How do you hold it to the wall?
Yes, red to red and black to black. If you have it hooked up wrong the charger will error out and let you know. I recommend connecting the charger to the battery first and then plugging it, but thats not a necessity - any order will work. The charge mode you want to select will depend on what type of battery you have in the car. If its a standard flooded battery then your going to leave it on the 12V mode. If its a newer AGM series battery then your going to leave it on the AGM setting. In terms of wall mounting - the mounting bracket and strap combo are in the box with the charger. If its 2000 miles away then its time for you to get creative if mounting it is a must :).
hi, I just purchased this. Can you tell me how long the device needs to be plugged in to fully charge it? How will I know? Thank you I know it is a basic question.
Just to clarify, this is a AC operated battery charger. It does not have an internal battery that can be charged up, it must be plugged into an AC outlet in order to function.
great review.. maybe the product i need.. can i leave it charging my car battery overnyt on a -40 weather? im having a problems with my car starting it in the morning…
Unfortunately not, the operating temperature for this unit is -4F. The lowest operating threshold for a charger that we are knowledgeable on is the CTEK MUS 4.3 Polar model which can operate in -22F. www.techbatterysolutions.com/ctek-mus-4-3-polar-battery-charger-56-958/
Great video! QUESTION: Mine just arrived my wife hasn't been driving her car so it sits for a week or more at a time. Should I run the charge mode first, or the repair most first?
I recommend running the standard charge mode on the unit, I only recommend hitting the repair mode if your having any starting issues or capacity issues with the battery.
If your battery needs to be repaired will it automatically detect this and do it for you or will you have to select it? And if you’re unsure if you put a perfectly fine battery on repair mode will it damage it the battery?
The charger will detect sulfation during its regular charge mode and begin the repair process as part of the algorithm. I always caution people to not overuse the repair mode. Due to the higher charging voltages used in that mode, it could shorten the life span of AGM batteries if used excessively.
Here at the shop we only use the repair mode if there's a problem with the battery. If a customer brings in a battery that was left sitting discharged for a period of time, if a battery is having trouble retaining voltage, or if we see a reduced capacity in a battery that doesn't match up with its age and use.
I have an Interlock Device in my car and it drains my battery. I bought this Noco and charge my car 3-4 times a week. However, I needed a jump today as my battery was at 8.9v Any suggestions would be so appreciated!
I would recommend getting the battery tested ASAP to eliminate the battery as being the issue first and foremost. If the battery is testing good, then I would suggest contacting the company that installed the interlock to see why the drain is so high. We have seen this a few times, sometimes customers are able to take the vehicle back in to get an adjustment made to the interlock to either draw less, or not draw at all until the key is engaged.
Nice review. What voltage does the charger allow the battery to drop to before it kicks in and starts charging again? I had mine get my battery up to about 14V and when I checked on it a couple of weeks later it had dropped to 12.5(ish)V and the green light was solid, indicating full charge still. I switched the charger off and on again and it started the charging process and had the battery back up to 13V in a few minutes. Is there an issue? Battery only a few months old. Thanks.
I ran your question by NOCO, here is their official response: It sounds like the battery may not be holding a good resting voltage, and the charger may be timing out. The maintenance trickle charge should start when the voltage drops below 12.7V, and the LED should be pulsing green. If the battery is not holding a good resting voltage, the charger will timeout and stop applying the charge to prevent overcharging the battery. If the voltage drops below 12.4V the charger will start the full charge over.
The GENIUS10 unit will taper off its bulk charge rate as the battery nears the fully charged point and continue to lessen the charge until the battery is fully charged. Its the last 10% thats considered the finishing charge in which the charger is ramping down from its bulk charge mode.
We use repair mode for batteries that are having issues maintaining a fully charged state (voltage drop with no draw), low CCA output, or capacity loss. I will typically engage the repair mode on a battery experiencing one of the above after completing a charge cycle on the charger. The repair mode will work on desulfation of the battery.
You know, when to turn the self facing mode on whether it's dead or churged. What does it mean when you have a green and red light flashing back-and-forth?
Once the mode is selected the charger will remember it and re-engage after the power has been restored. That being said it will not autodetect the chemistry of the battery its attached to, you must tell the charger what chemistry its charging if your dealing with various kinds.
It will not damage the charger. The charger will detect a voltage level decrease in the battery and if it's significant then it will error out thinking there is an issue with the battery bank.
Yes, the higher the number the higher the charge rate. You also get access to more charger features such as supply / repair mode the higher up the chain you move.
The NOOC GENIUS10 unit is solid 10A charger designed for both automotive and deep cycle usage. A fast charge will depend on the capacity of the battery, to find the charge time you take the capacity of the battery and divide it by the output of the charger. The resulting number will be the total time in hours it will take to charge assuming its been fully discharged.
Hi there, a quick question. If the battery in my car is drained, will I be able to connect the Noco Genius10 and have it charge the battery back to full, then start up my car? I mean without taking the battery out of the car? Or would that work at all?
There's just not very many videos. Unlike the default fading modes, how the green lights really work. How long does it really take? How much voltage is really going into the battery? Is it okay to keep the software in the battery if it's Not working keep doing it over and over again
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 unit needs to be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charger or repair any battery. The unit does not have an internal battery and relies on AC to power it.
This is not a jump starter, this is strictly an AC powered battery charger with no internal battery. If you are looking for a jump starter I recommend the NOCO GB40 or GB50 unit.
Yes, the NOCO GENIUS10 charger does need to be plugged in to function. Keep in mind that this is an AC powered battery charger - its not a jump starter and does not have an internal battery.
Depends on what you're looking to do. The NOCO Boost series is a jump starter, these units can only jump start, are portable, and will not be able to charge your battery. The NCOO GENIUS10 is a battery charger, this unit can not jump start but will be able to charge your batteries and must be plugged into an AC outlet in order to operate.
@@James_m7 It comes down to the engine size, I normally recommend the GB40 unit for sedans/smaller cars. I think you should take a look at the GB50 unit for the SUVs. It's the next step up from the GB40 and gives you a little added insurance in the power output.
Yes, you can use it on an AGM battery. I do not recommend using it often on an AGM however, only when its needed as repeated usage of the recovery mode can damage an AGM battery.
I left a sine wave inverter on to charge tool batteries on overnight by accident. My one year old battery is completely dead (no sounds). How do I know which mode to put it on, the charging mode or the repair mode? Thanks.
Hi,I’ve just used this device to recharge a new deep cycle marine battery, which I bought a couple of months ago, but haven’t yet put into use. Is it to be expected that it would have run down to less than 25% charged in that time, and how could I tell if I needed to employ the repair mode?Thank you.
Deep cycle batteries will lose a % of their charge every day when sitting idle, so depending on how long it sat it's certainly possible. Since the battery is so new I would not worry about using the repair mode. This is for batteries that are on the older side and heavily sulfated.
Does this have to be plugged into a wall socket to charge it, or for the car? Hopefully its stand alone? Will do charging stand alone? Do I need to recharge this battery charge off electrical outlet?
Yes, this is strictly a battery charger that needs to be plugged into an AC outlet to function - it will not be able to jump-start your battery. If your looking for a jump starter check out the NOCO GB40 series unit: www.techbatterysolutions.com/noco-gb40-boost-jump-starter/
I have 2 questions. Does the green light stay on when fully charge or does it pulse on and off? And what do you set charger on when charging flooded deep cycle batteries?
The green light will be solid and steady when the battery is 100% fully charged. The flashing green means that the battery is 90% or higher but not all the way topped off. The charging algo you want to use for flooded batteries is the standard 12V setting.
Hello, I have 4 new 105ah Lion lithium batteries and want to top them all off before installing in parallel. Can I charge more than one at a time? Thanks in advance.
Can I leave this on the battery all winter long as a maintainer? I'm about to winterize my trailer and want to set the batteries (2-6Volt in series) on the genius 10--set--and forget--until March. What do you think? Is that a realistic expectations?
I just bought one of these as I have a deeply discharged battery and I wanted a charger with the force mode. To begin with however I just wanted to charge a standard 12v car battery. When I plugged it in I expected a steady progression through the charge level indicators from one red block through to the full bar (two reds, an orange and a green). What actually happens is the first red blinks for a while, then the first goes solid and the second blinks a coup,e of times then it goes down to no lights then, after a while it goes up to the Amber for one pulse then back to nothing. It doesn’t seem to progress through the bars but seems to be going up and back down? Is it charging? Is the battery OK? Why don’t the instructions tell you what to expect and what the changing lights mean?
Leave it connected, it sounds like you have an issue with your battery - possibly that it's not retaining the charge. The charger will error out if the battery is not recoverable.
My son give me the Noco Genius 10. I have a 2019 Camaro SS. Planning to store it for the winter months, at least three to four months. How do I use this charger to keep my battery charged? Great video, by the way.
Did you end up getting this charger just wondering because I have a 2016 SS Camaro that I store for the Winter I had a CTech charger but it burned up so I'm looking in to one of these noco's
The green light on the charger will still fully lit, when its blinking the battery is at a 95% charge level or better - the charger will taper down its output to get the battery to a 100% charge level.
Its hard to tell, but can I use this to jump start my old Maxima 2000 car battery? Its completely dead and hasnt run in a few weeks. I just need to get it to the point where I can move it to another location within a 100 yards
You only need to select the correct chemistry for the battery in your truck. At the end of the charging cycle in each of the modes on the charger it will automatically go into its maintenance mode.
Very informative video. NOCO should have hired you! I just purchased the Genius10 & eyelets. I have a question that I’m hoping you can help. I have 2020 F350 Super-duty Truck that’s not driven for months at a time. The truck has two batteries. I have already gone through a set of batteries because I believe the truck isn’t driven enough. That said, I just put in two new Motorcraft 12v batteries and I want to maintain them while in storage. It’s my understanding that the batteries are parallel and I only need to hook up one of the batteries. Here’s my question- To maintain the batteries as a trickle I need to set the mode to 12V and I can leave it on? Thank you
The directions state that the NOCO 10 automatically detects and restores lost battery performance for stronger engine starts and extended battery life. If I plugged the charger in once and left it turned on, would it run the battery sulfation and acid stratification cycles as many times as needed or would I have to unplug the charger and plug it in again for the charger to run another battery sulfation and acid stratification cycle?
I'm not sure, but would bet that the charger runs this process a single time. If the battery comes up to the fully charged level after this process is completed successfully then charger will then go into its maintenance mode. If you feel the need to run the mode again I suggest switching the charger into its dedicated repair mode.
Yes, the GENIUS10 series does need to be plugged into AC power in order to work. If you are looking for a jump starter for a motorcycle I recommend taking a look at the NOCO GB20 unit which is a pure jump starter application.
My alternator is not holding a charge on my battery ( gell). I see it has a plug that comes with it. I already charged it up but I want to know am I supposed to keep it plugged in when I do a trickle charge overnight? What is the purpose of the plug other than charging this unit up? Thanks
Does the GENIUS10 charger save its battery settings (battery type, voltage level, etc) when you unplug it from AC power? In other words, so I need to select my battery type and 12v or 6v every time I plug it into AC? I am looking into purchasing this charger to keep in a camper van for the house battery. But I will not always be on shore power, so it would nice to not have to change settings every time I hook up shore power. Thanks, and great video!
High-Tech Battery Solutions, Inc Thanks for the quick response and information! One other question. Let’s say I have this connected to a house battery in my camper van, and I am using a few power consumers in the van that run off of that same house battery. If I am connected to shore power (and thus the GENIUS10 charger is also powered on), do you know if the charger will help supply a steady DC current to maintain the house battery level? (assuming that my current draw off of the battery is less than the chargers 10amp capacity)
@@maf337 To my knowledge the charger will supply a steady current regardless of the conditions affecting the battery. The only thing I can think of is that you will run the risk of over-charging your batteries should this setting be left on for long periods of time and you have no draw on your batteries. Since this is a straight power supply mode there is no feedback loop between the battery and charger to let the charger know the battery is topped off.
Hi, i need a good affordable and portable battery charger for my ford escape 2014. My battery is completely dead and cant find someone to charge at the moment. I need one that can withstand all weather. Thank you !
Thanks for answering my last question but I have another one... I have a 2021 Ram 3500 diesel with 2 batteries , Could I use the Genius10 to charge my 2 truck batteries using the rear 7 pin trailer connector in the rear of the truck. It would be easier access for me. I've heard rumors it can be done but I can't find anything on how to go about it. Any suggestion would be very much appreciated.
Let me start by saying I'm trying to learn a bit here. What would have happened if you stayed in 6V? As for the repair mode, is there an indicator on the NOCO that tells you repair is needed or do you just set it and see if it goes into repair mode?
If you were to put the charger in the 6V mode on a 12V battery it would error out letting you know that the voltage selected is incorrect. As for the repair mode there is no indicator on the charger that says its time to hit the repair mode. You will have to make that call based on the situation - for example if the battery was sitting discharged for a long period of time, or if you notice an overall lack in capacity of the battery and want to try to recover it.
Can I use this unit to charge two 6V golf cart batteries wired in series? I am planning on purchasing the batteries new. Thank you. Bob from Grand Rapids, MI
No one talks about the AC connection and people who know nothing need to know how long you keep it plugged into the AC outlet, how often you charge it if you don't use it and how you tell it is holding a charge and ready to use? Thanks for any schooling on this so I understand.
Just to confirm, there is no internal battery in this unit - its a straight battery charger that must be plugged into an AC outlet in order to charge a battery.
You would select the charger setting that matched the chemistry of the battery you're trying to charge. Once the battery is fully charged then the unit will kick over into its maintenance mode automatically.
I'm charging my car battery (12V, Lead/Acid) with the NOCO Genius 10. The Charge LED's (25% & 50%) blink red then go solid, then the 75% blinks orange, but then, usually, it goes back down to the 25% and starts over again. Once it did go to the 100 LED, turned green, but then again went back to the 25%. Is this normal when charging?
Thats not normal, I have seen this happen to us when attempting to charge batteries that were either to far gone and not able to retain a charge or from batteries that had a constant drain on them while charging. Either way I think its worth taking the battery into a shop to get tested to see whats going on.
A nice review. How do you get the 12V repair function to work? I switch to it and it just blinks red. I’m trying to figure out how to get it to solid red/activate.
The blinking red is what you're looking for, the light will continue to blink red throughout the whole repair process. Once it's completed you will get the solid green LED on the charger.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc how do you know if your battery needs the repair mode if you can get the car to start with the charging mode only with one or two red lights across the bars and it has not reached the green light yet? When I select the Repair mode it just flashes red.
@@cheryllinford443 We recommend using the repair mode if the battery is not performing as it should, or if it's been left in a discharged state for longer than 30 days. If you accidentally drain your battery and its not been left in a discharged state for 30+ days then we recommend hitting it with the standard charge mode.
Haven’t made my purchase yet. Perhaps it’s clear to everyone but me but I have a question related to the Genius 10. When charging a 12 V battery do I always have to select “repair” mode when I start charging (or does routine charging begin after simply selecting “type” of battery)? Is “repair” mode ONLY selected when reconditioning a battery is necessary?
You would only select repair mode if you know the battery is sulfated. When you're going to charge a 12V battery you would start by selecting the proper battery type - you do not have to select repair mode to begin charging any battery.
What does the flashing light mean on the 12V Repair? Steps I took: 1. Hooked up the battery (YTZ14S, 12V motorbike battery - about 5 yrs old I think) 2. Started the charger 3. Selected 12V which went to Slowly flashing green in about 1 minute, battery was at 10.4V before charge 4. Selected 12V repair mode which now flashes. Could you please let me know what this means and how long should I wait until it is usable again?
That battery is way to small for this charger - that's what it went to the flashing green when you initially hooked it up. I recommend using a smaller charger on that battery.
@@szilardvincze The GENIUS10 unit is not the one advertised for motorcycle batteries, that would be the GENUIS2 or 1 series. The 10 series is rated for use on batteries with a capacity rating of 20 to 230 AH. The YTZ14S will fall well short of that capacity, we sell the YTZ14S and are very familiar with it.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc If that's true, someone needs to make changes to the manufacturer claims on Amazon. The official description says "compatible with all types of vehicles - charge and maintain cars, motorcycles, lawnmowers, atvs, tractors, trucks, suvs, boats, classic cars, hot rods, and more - you name it". I just ordered it to charge/repair my motorcycle, PWC and lawn tractor batteries. Won't be happy if the claims are incorrect!
I believe the OEM battery for the 2022 Honda Accords are enhanced flooded batteries or EFB's. These units would require the standard 12V mode of charging.
The charger itself does not have a battery in it, and will not be able to retain a charge. In order for this charger to function it needs to be plugged into a wall outlet. I just want to be clear that this is not a jump starter -
If you are asking how to determine if the battery you are trying to charge is fully charged, just wait for the single solid Green LED to light. If it is lit but pulsing on and off, just wait and leave everything alone. Some batteries can take a couple of days to reach full charge. (Solid Greed LED lit and not blinking) Car batteries need care. They need to be kept charged or damage occurs.
@@HighTechBatterySolutionsInc And here's all 4 of their new Genius series. It also includes some estimated charging time charts based on different size batteries at 50% discharge. So I have a question for you and probably have more after I get my charger. Unfortunately I have the Genius5 on the way (5amp) only to find out the boat I bought has a 114 AH deep cycle 12 v which could handle the Genius10 you reviewed and would have cut my recharging time in half. Bummer! Oh well... So do I charge the deep cycle 12 v battery in the "normal" 12 volt mode? Thanks! I don't think they've been on their website very long. Here ya go> no.co/products/charging/multipurpose
@@dandettmann595 If your batteries are flooded then yes you will be charging on the 12V normal mode. If your running sealed AGM series in there then you're going to be using the AGM mode.
Would this product work on a Peugeot 208, battery : 12v l2 Ef 60ah 640a ? The car has been dormant for some month, causing the battery to be flat. Car runs after jump starting but has failed to start once re parked.
Great video, do you have to plug it in an outlet so it will work, the reason why I ask when my RV battery go dead for the winter and when I go out to my storage was the RV is store I don't have any outlet to plug it into to power up.
this went right over my head...so, quick question. I opened the box, plugged it in for three days. Nothing changed on the lights to indicate it was full. I suppose I'm old school. I need to put a charge on my car that has been sitting for a few months...someone told me to put it on a slow charge for a few days to get it back working as the battery is only a yr old. Help please....
The pictures in the manual suggest when it's at full charge, the first 3 orange lights are off. Is that correct? Also, as soon as it hits full charge, it'll probably go into maintenance mode right away. I don't think we'll ever see the solid green at all. I've been charging my 12V 60Ah car battery since last night and 12+ hours later, I'm looking at 3 solid orange and pulsing green. Just hoping this is the expected behavior and it's in maintenance mode.
Let the charger continue through its charging process - you will see the solid green when it's done. When the light is solid green then it hit its maintenance mode and charge as needed.
Thanks for the informative review, do you happen to know what the output is in supply mode? I.e would be suitable for when reflashing/coding ecu's? Thanks.
Hello, I have an SOK 206Ah battery that I've been using for testing/ running my electrical system in my campervan. I have been away for about a week and noticed that my lights wouldn't turn on and that the battery was completely dead (26mV) I only have a conventional 12V 6A charger which I mistakenly tried to use to bring the voltage back up. Will the Noco genius 10 be able to wake up my battery and charge back to normal and which mode should I use?
In all honesty I'm not sure the GENIUS10 would be able to wake up the BMS on the SOK. I recommend reaching out to the company to see what they recommend - I'm sure there is an SOP for this kind of thing they can send to you.
What happens if my battery stands for 8 amps, does this charger adapts to the battery to supply 8 amps? Battery is earthx ETX18F with bms integrated system
