Great Vid Marc, question please, I see that the Electro 6 has two different Panning effects 1 & 2 where as the Stage3 has just one Auto Pan, does one sound better/richer/wider than the other or is it just the way the two boards are laid out ?, Also does for example, the Deep function make the Chorus on the Electro richer/wider than on the Stage 3 which doesn't have it, or the same deal, just the way the boards are set out ?. As you know I'm all about the Stereo Panning and Stereo Chorus Fender Rhodes sound, that's really my main focus for considering buying a NORD, I just played one the other day after ( and I've demo'd them all, Kronos/SV2 Roland, never tried Keyscape but how much better can you get ?, hey just buy a real Vintage Vibe or refurbished Rhodes if that's your jam $$$$$$$$$$ ) and it blew my mind !, it won't be long before I join The Nord army, that's for sure.
Hey @Stacey Carras Words alone can't describe this as well. I took the liberty to compare Auto Pan options between the two here in this custom video I made for you: vimeo.com/544403129/420b0b5c9e
@@MyKeysToMusic WOW ! I'm beyond grateful Marc, thank you, thank you, thank you, I've just seen the vid, its world class, one more question please, can you set the aftertouch to control the rate/depth of the Auto Pan or the chorus as examples ?, also can you do the same thing with a control pedal ? same with mod wheel and pitch stick ?
@@staceycarras3815 Glad you liked my supplemental video! For the Stage 3, the Rate and the Amount for Effect 1 can be controlled by the pedal, aftertouch, and mod wheel. The amount of effect 2 can be controlled in the same way with the same controls. However, the rate for Effect 2 CANNOT be controlled by the morph controls - it's variable based on the knob settings on the front panel only. Not exactly sure why it was designed in this way but perhaps it makes some sense based on the types of things in Effects 2. Hope that answers the question. Grab an image of what's in Effect 1 and Effect 2 on the Stage 3 and correlate that with my message here to know which effects are in 1 versus 2 of course...
@@MyKeysToMusic I went into the local NORD dealer today and had a go at both a NS3 and Electro 6 and your spot on Marc, on a side note I also demo'd both the Yamaha CP88 ( the so called NORD killer/YamaNord/Black Nord "great comedy with those RU-vid names Ha ha ha ha, lots of comedians on RU-vid" ), the KORG SV-2, Roland FA-08, KORG Kronos, and the surprise Dexibell S9 ( its got great Rhodes sample and Auto Pan ). The CP88 had a delicious key-bed but overrated Rhodes sample and the Auto Pan can't be used independently of the Compressor, FAIL . The FA-08 Nice Rhodes sounds but Roland have never really gotten the Auto Pan right/and Menu hell combined with a heavy key-bed, FAIL . The Dexibell S9, Killer Rhodes sounds, deep and great Auto Pan, great key-bed, but still some Menu hell, not bad. The SV-2 really surprised me, the RH-3 key-bed was second only to the CP88, great Rhodes sounds, Great Auto Pan, inbuilt speaker, lovely interface, a real winner ! The Kronos had a heavier key-bed than the SV-2 even though its labeled as RH-3, curious thing that ?, also a very different beast, being a work station, far too clever for a home player. Nord is the clear winner , although it doesn't have the best key-bed ( not the worst either ) Nord are very clever with what they've done with their key-bed, how well they've interfaced it with the samples, once you start playing, the keys enchant the player like a snake charmer, and like a great video game controller that's been perfectly calibrated to follow what's going on in the game. Again, thank you so much for all the hard work you do for The Nord army Marc.
hi! i’m a 2020 graduate about to go into college, and my graduation gift is a keyboard of my choosing. i’ve been stuck for MONTHS over whether to get the stage 3 or the electro 6D. i thought i was sold for the 6D, but this video changed my mind! thank you for such in depth videos... you’ve got a new subscriber and i’m so excited to get my hands on those keys 😤
Well done for doing your research! The Nord Electro 6 is a great keyboard and I have used it on every gig since I've had it but if you can afford a Stage 3, go tor the Stage 3. It has a ton of options and the full-featured synth can't be underestimated. Be sure to watch the Discovery series: ru-vid.com/group/PLvND2qkkWygqahJWvI75kYCQo6nPMJA7i Thanks for your comment today. The hard part now is waiting for it... 🤪
@@MyKeysToMusic sure thing! And I just watched another vid of yours talking about the hammer action feel so got that question answered too. Subscribed!
@@free2muse Glad to hear it! Was it this video by chance the one featuring Billy Joel's Angry Young Man? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHyrFF_0xb4.html
Hi George! Thanks so much for your comment and I happy to hear the videos help you understand the Nord keyboards. My admiration for Nord products was strong even before being a purchaser. Now that I've used them for several years and finished the training videos, I've come to appreciate them even more. Thanks for watching!
I was on the fence about which of the two keyboards you reviewed in this video. Your clear and concise review made the choice much easier. Based on my needs, and not interested in features I would never use, I'll be looking to buy an Electro 6D, and will be back to watch some of your tuturials.
Excellent and thanks for leaving a comment! Glad to hear the video helped with your decision. Yes, it's all about what works for you. Of all the people that I work with and who also purchase and Electro 6 about 10% have upgraded to a Stage 3 shortly thereafter and I thought it would be good to mention why: 1) They need the ability to play two sounds from the synth/sample engine at once. (Like a sampled bass guitar while also playing a string sound at the same time). With the Electro 6, you're going to have to choose one or the other - not both. 2) They didn't need a synth at first, but then they see what the Stage 3 synth can do and then they want to upgrade. 3) They like the Extern option provided the Stage 3 allowing them to easily connect and push control out to external keyboards and/or the computer/iPad. (The Extern option allows for some basic keyboard "controller" like features providing some flexibility with how the keyboard is split when driving external sounds). For all the other customers, they love their Electro through and through. Some customers have both the Electro and the Stage because they want "more, more, and more!" Be sure to visit my website when/if you're looking for pro training on your Electro 6! Feel free to ask more questions as they come up here too.
Hi Marc, Your website is very informative regarding Nord instruments and I’ve learned a lot from it. I purchased an Electro 6D last year and the learning curve was, and is, very intimidating. I’ve decided to upgrade to a Stage 3 and plan on enrolling in at least one of your courses to help shorten the learning curve and reach a point where I’m comfortable with it. Is it possible to back up and transfer the settings from the Electro to the Stage 3. I’d be using the Nord Program Manager but don’t know about the compatibility between these two instruments. Thanks in advance. Max
Thank you Tommy! Good luck with your decision. If it’s in the budget, go with a Stage 3 if you think you have even a hint of interest to work with the synth…. I have worked with a great many folks who either added a Stage 3 or traded for a Stage 3. Do consider the Electro if you a primarily interested in piano and organ. If however, you are playing covers or want to imitate famous music like so many of my videos demonstrate, you run out of runway with the Electro pretty quickly and may want to lean towards a Stage 3. Also based on history, I would think we are nearing a time for either a Stage 3 EX or Stage 4 release although I have no evidence of this. Just based on timing is the only thing I have to go on. The Stage 3 came out in 2017. Cheers!
I have an Electro 6D 73, and I can confirm that it DOES respond to external pitch-bend commands via MIDI, but only on the lower part of a MIDI split. My guitarist son uses a Sonuus G2M pitch-to-MIDI converter to play Nord sax and cello samples from his guitar, and the Electro responds accurately to string bends.
Hi Simon. After a bit of research and some hands-on testing myself, you are 100% correct on this! When the Electro 6 was first released, this option wasn't available and it wasn't mentioned in the manual anywhere (it may still not be mentioned in the manual). Then two months later after release, they fixed the pitch stick issue with patch 1.12. This question has inspired me to make another video to clarify this because I'm sure there are a lot of people that want to know this important fact. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I'm also going to edit this video above to cut out the part about it not working with external keyboards etc. Wow - thanks so much for calling this out.
Simon. You inspired a video! Here, I demonstrate the Nord Electro 6 working perfectly with the pitch stick from a Nord Stage 3 and Korg Minilogue XD. Thanks again! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YRYJf2J4fO4.html
thank you. there have been several weeks of decisions for my new studio. you nailed it for me. the stage 3 88 will shortly be joining the kronos 2 61 and montage 6 you have a new subscriber. once again thank you. keep up the good work.
Hello Steve! Glad to know this comparison came in handy. It's a big decision for sure. In addition, you can also check out the buyer's guide PDF I created where you can view every little nuance compared side by side for all the leading Nord keyboards: www.mykeystomusic.com/pages/nord-keyboard-buyers-guide
@brandonharris9160 Hi Brandon, glad it helped. Which board are you leaning towards at this point? It's a good time to buy a Stage 3 since the Stage 4 came out. Lots of support in the community for that board as well.
One feature that I really love on the Stage is the morphing feature with the wheel. I use this daily. And it has also aftertouch which is also useful to enhance the sound. I have a Stage of the first generation and an Electro 3. The Electro is good & nice, but the Stage ist just great, even if my piece is quite old in the meanwhile. It is the only instrument which I use at the gigs.
Yes, the Stage has the really nice features you mentioned and they do make a big impact to enhance a given performance. I'm using morphing more and more these days myself. Thanks for your comment Zuerityp!
This is super helpful, thanks for taking the time to go into the nitty gritty yet making it clear. Another factor I've also been weighing up is the action - it took a visit to a couple of music stores to physically try them all to realise I don't want semi-weighted and prefer either hammer action or weighted keys. Your video has really helped too.
Hello @sallystockwell thanks for the update here. You were smart (and a bit lucky) to be able to test these in the actual music stores. For months, this has not been an easy thing to do (test Nord keyboards in person). If you are leaning towards the Electro, consider the Piano 5 instead, as it has better action, and essentially the only thing you sacrifice is the Organ engine from the Electro. However, the Stage 3 prices recently went down, so if you're looking for more functionality, go for the Stage. I'd recommend the 88 over the 76 if you can fit it in your studio. If you're looking instead to play out with it, then the 88 is going to be big and heavy. So in that case, I'd probably lean back towards the Piano 5 73 key instead which will give you both the feel and the lighter weight without sacrificing too much.
Thanks for this, Mark! A very useful objective comparison. I came into this thinking I wanted an Electro 6, but now you've got me contemplating a Stage 3.
Hi Phil. Glad it was helpful! In fact, this is not the first time I hear people have the heart set on an Electro only to walk away considering the Stage 3. I've also talked to quite a few that purchased the Electro 6 and eventually upgraded to the Stage 3. And finally, there are people who buy the Electro 6 and keep it but then purchase a separate synth to supplement the synth sounds. So, lots of choices here!
Hope you’re having a great weekend we’re all looking forward to your review of the new Nord stage 4 - we know we can trust your comments the most in making a decision for a new keyboard
Hey Tommy! This comment made my day and it’s the ultimate compliment! I’ve been preparing most of the morning and seriously considering going “live” later today or tomorrow to start the conversation. There is a lot to unpack and the opinions out there have been very spirited on both sides. Stay tuned…
Awesome! Love my Electro 6. The hammer action portable has a much heavier keyboard play style than the waterfall. Good if you are a traditional piano player of sorts. If you are a born and bred synth person, you may want to consider the waterfall Electro 6D 73. I do like the digital drawbars on the HP better however.
WOW. It's not often I take notes while watching a YT video. Your comparison is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Now I am either going for the Electro 6 or the Stage 3 compact, so I will do that research. Thanks so much, and please tell me if this info needs updating over the last year
Hi Gary! Great - so happy the video helped! As far as updating goes, you could potentially read through the comments here as there are a few things mentioned by folks on features that I may not have covered in the comparison video above. Having owned both a Stage 3 and Electro 6 for a while now, I can recommend the Stage 3 if your budget permits it. And as you look through my library of now over 80 videos on this channel, you'll see more capability and song recreation power using the Stage 3 as the synth cannot be underestimated for that purpose along with the ability to play from both panel A and B providing you essentially two synth engines at once which you will find becomes really important as you get into it. You could also consider the purchase of a used Stage 3 compact which should shave some off the price (www.reverb.com is one recommendation). Finally, I have a pro training course available for both keyboards found at www.MyKeysToMusic.com when you're ready for it. Thanks for your comment and for watching! Good luck with your decision Gary 😊
Hi Marc! Another great video! Good comparisson. I had the E5HP and have the S388 now. Just one comment: in fact, you could have 8 simultaneously sounds, considering the external section. Thanks for your videos again! They are VERY professionals! Nord should give you a keyboard of each one for free!!!
Hi Jape Music! Thanks for your comments and your continued support! Your idea about how the Extern section actually gives you even more sounds is brilliant. I hadn't considered that since it wasn't built in, but technically speaking, yes, you get that kind of power with the Stage 3. I like your comment about reaching out to Nord too. I could use the Nord Electro 6 right about now (wink). I'm sure people will be building up questions for it and I only have the manual available to me at the moment. :)
In my case I play in a classic rock band and use piano most of the time followed by organ and a few songs with synth. I'm also not as technically knowledgeable as I would like to be and have owned keyboards in the past that were a bit intimidating in that regard. I'm sure that the learning curve for this board will be challenging, but the quality of the piano, organ and synth sounds should be worth it.
Got it! I think you’ll find the learning curve on the Electro 6 is going to be doable. It’s far easier to learn than other boards in my opinion. Also, I have pro training available on my website when you get to that point.
I would say the differences between the Stage 3 and Electro 6 are quite significant. 1: 4 individual outputs on the Stage 3. Only 2 outputs on the Electro. “Not a deal breaker for most”. I say it’s a very important feature. Say you’re running a patch of a piano and a synth, and you want to use external effects on the synth only.. You can only do that on the Stage 3. Well actually on the Electro, you can use it in mono mode and send one mono sound through output L and another mono through output R. Very unsatisfying. And it’s a master setting on the Electro, which means you have to go to the mastersetting and set the Electro up to run in mono. And you have to go to the master settings again, when you want to put it back in stereo mode, which means you’re not gonna do that during a concert. On Stage 3 each program can save it’s own output settings. It’s just next next level in convenience. 2: Programchange by foot pedal is a very very very important feature that you don’t really talk about. But it’s something you have to have, when you have seamless sound transitions, as it allows you to change programs in a much more musical way, as you don’t have to move your hands from the keyboard the change programs. Defenitely one of the features that makes me choose Stage 3 over Electro 6. 3: 2 gigs of pianos in Stage 3 against 1 gig in Electro 6 isn’t that important? I think it’s very important. One of the features, that makes the pianos in the Nord’s shine is long release and string resonance. You need the at least “large” samples to get string resonance over the entire keyboard. And the XL samples have more layers. Having double up on piano memory in the Stage 3 is a very important difference, as you won’t have to compromise as much choosing pianos. 4: Rate knobs in the effects. How can you say those aren’t important. It makes a huge difference to control over the effects. 5: Independent rotary speaker on the Stage 3 is not just a slight advantage. It’s a huge advantage, as gives you an extra distortion circuit for those Jon Lord organ sounds. Stage 3 gives you the overdrive from the individual rotary speaker plus the tube distortion circuit in the effects. Very important to me. 6: On Stage 3 you can morph a loooot of parameter by morphwheel or pedal, including the effects. That also takes the Stage 3 to the next next next level. My conclusion. Electro 6 is awesome. I’ve used Electro 5 for a couple of years and it’s awesome. And seamless sound transitions in Electro 6 is an awesome new feature in the Electro, but as long as it doesn’t have program change by pedal, the feature is not complete. It’s only half the pleasure. There a World of difference between the two models. That’s said, I enjoy your videos :)
Hi Ronni! First, let me just say a big thank you for taking the time here to write such a detailed, nicely written, and helpful comment. I believe these clarifications are really going to help people understand these features and their resulting differences of the Electro / Nord Stage 3 a lot more. Therefore I'm going to pin this to the top for a while if not indefinitely. So thank you for that! And my personality is such that I have a tendency to make assumptions on what "most people" would like through my perspective. I probably should think about that more in future videos and use phrasing like, "It wasn't a big deal to me" rather than saying, "it may not be a big deal for most." So thank you for calling this out!! As I was making the video, I realized it could have easily been twice as long - probably even longer in fact, to go a bit deeper on some of the features mentioned and to include some features/details that were not talked about at all - like the ones you mentioned. I also failed to mention or discuss "aftertouch" or the omission of setlist/song mode in the Electro 6 for example. Hopefully, I hit most of the main points but I'm am grateful again for your clarifications and explanations. Furthermore, I'm quite pleased that in the end, the videos are still enjoyable. That's what great about RU-vid. You have the videos to make statements, share opinions, and provide first-hand information. But then you also have the comments capability where you can further clarify things for the audience and where the audience can provide direct feedback from their professional understanding and expertise. So thanks again for all this and for watching! - Marc
I would disagree that seamless transitions via a program change are only of use with a foot pedal. I have a 5D and find this a big drawback - generally the split-second hand movement to hit the program change button isn't a dealbreaker and anyway ameliorated by the seamless transition.
"You need the at least “large” samples to get string resonance over the entire keyboard. And the XL samples have more layers. Having double up on piano memory in the Stage 3 is a very important difference, as you won’t have to compromise as much choosing pianos." I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this - this makes a better quality piano from the Stage 3?
Great to hear! Good luck with your decision. Once you do decide, consider visiting my main website for free and paid training videos for either one you pick. Thanks for watching!
Saludos a ti también Marianela. Gracias por dejar un comentario hoy y por ver estos videos. ¡Mantente sintonizado para más! Translated: Greetings to you too Marianela. Thank you for leaving a comment today and for watching these videos. Stay tuned for more!
Just ordered my Nord Stage 3 88 a few wks ago AND whenever they can get ANY In CANADA I guess I will get it but wow just subscribed to your channel and can and have learned a lot already so Thanks man it's gonna be fun to explore my stage 3 ( some day) and it will help allot with your channel and your well spoken so thanks
Hello @Grantti - congrats on your incoming Nord Stage 3 88!! The hardest part is waiting for it right? Glad you found the channel, and I have a whole online school with free and paid courses on my main website (see description). I'm sure we'll be talking down the road... Drop a line when it arrives if you have the time.
Thanks Jazzyfingers! Good choice! I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Stage 3. You may also consider the Stage 3 Compact - especially since I see you have a lot of organ videos on your channel. The HP action is a lot more resistant (harder to play faster especially over long durations). Consider watching this video for a non-scientific comparison of the keybeds: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHyrFF_0xb4.html
Great asset to the keyboard community, especially in the Nord world... a quick question: is there any discussion needed to compare keybeds between the Electro 6D SW73 and the Stage Compact SW73? I would assume they are identical, but I'm getting ready to spend real money so I thought I'd ask. Thanks again for the great advice!!
HI Michael. Thanks for your kind words here. To the best of my knowledge (and I don't have first-hand knowledge of this by the way), it would be my assumption that the Stage 3 Compact 73 waterfall is the same keybed as the 6D 73 waterfall. Also, know that each keybed is further "tweaked" before it leaves the factory so even with that, no two keybeds are actually identical. But I also assume the calibration is so defined and so precise that you probably couldn't tell the difference between any two like Nord keyboards (which is why the calibration is done at the factory in the first place). You can watch this part of the Nord video for a very brief view of the calibration process: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UblYpjGm1eo.html If you don't already have a purchase source for this, I recommend giving Sweetwater a call and asking for Jonathan Casarow 800 222 4700 x1759 Direct, call or text: 260 247 6496 (I get absolutely no commissions from this - I just try to help an honest sales expert when I can from a world-class retailer like Sweetwater.) Good luck and Happy New Year!
Mark! Love the videos, really helping me through the Nord buying process. I left your Facebook page with a more in depth question. I’m so close to making a decision, and your input would really help! Keep up the great work. I am looking forward to getting the instructional videos when I buy one of these bad boys 😉
Hi @Matthew Allen. Thanks for your questions here (already answered). Best of luck on your decision on which one to purchase and yes, would love to have you as a student in the course too!
Hi Thomas! Thank you so much - glad you like the info. I have seen you participating on various RU-vid channels out there and I just wanted to say thanks and we appreciate the participation!
Thank you so much for this video. I recently got the 6D and for what I do currently it is perfect, of course I want to upgrade to a Stage and with me being a gear head, I'd rather upgrade to the stage 4 when I can than the Stage 3 so I will be rocking the electro 6D until then
Excellent! @itsmaistro saving for an NS4 has its advantages but in the meantime, enjoy your Electro and use that time to get to know the Nord platform. Best of luck! 🎹
Thanks for the detailed comparison! I do a lot of organ work, so the Electro 6D 73 may be what I want to stick with. However, some of the features that you have shown on the Stage 3 may make it the better option. I work with a cover band, and I need to be able to have a lot of different sounds at my disposal. Having the output options that you do on the stage 3 may make that the better option. I was considering using the 6D 73 and a nord lead A1 on my two tier stand, but I may reconsider after seeing this video. Tough choice!
Hi Nick.Thanks for your comment. Yes, a tough choice indeed! Consider reading my reply to a comment here from belena vox. I provide a lot of my opinion/experience regarding a similar scenario. Thanks for watching!
@@MyKeysToMusic That is a very nice thread! Thank you! I think that the Nord Sample Library will cover a lot of what you need for a cover band. I like the features better on the 6D for the organ splits, which is huge for me because I use a lot of Organ for what I do. However, the exten section on the Stage is what makes me curious. It looks like it makes it more convenient for you to control another keyboard with the Stage, which would allow for more sound samples. However, the Nord has a bit more storage space for more samples. So, I'm still a bit torn! Ahhh!
I hear you Nick! The Extern function is very handy. I would miss that if I didn't have it. However, with whatever decision you come to, I'm sure you'll make it all work. Good luck and report back with whatever you decide.
What a great presentation! So informative and detailed. Were the photos and video transitions done as you were speaking or done after you had shot your video?
Hello. I love questions like this. So for most of my videos I tend to record in real time so that the pictures you are seeing are being presented as I'm speaking. When I describe a website for example, I'm recording the screen at the same time. Now, when I do all my comparison videos, I create a "keynote" file on my computer. Then I record both my head, the keynote slides and my voice all at the same time and I just run through the whole presentation all at once. I do then later edit it to remove any awkward pauses or misfires on what I'm saying. I then insert other "B roll" video when you see me break to the actual keyboard for a demo. So, it'a s combination of techniques used but the bulk of what I do is recorded in real time (head, screen, voice). If you want to see an actual live presentation from start to finish where I go from presenting screen and keyboards back and forth, you can check out any of my live videos such as this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-66fKAaQJQa8.html
My Keys To Music wow! Thank you, that gives me a lot of insight. I’ve been poring through your videos and they’re so well done and easy to watch. I’d love to be able to create presentations like yours for my tutorials and webinars. I’ve had my Stage 3 since Sunday still sealed in its box. I had an Electro 2 a few years back and briefly owned the Lead 2 30th Anniversary edition with reverse keys.
Thanks narfsounds! Well, you have more subs than me so you must be doing something right! 😉 I checked out your "Take On Me" video - nice... You planning on doing Stage 3 tutorials?
@@MyKeysToMusic I'll be creating the sounds then I'll create demos for them. At this point I'm still learning the sound creation and layout rules on the NS3. Most importantly how the easily the sounds export and install on a target NS3. I'd really want to keep all the sounds synthesized within the keyboard but it looks like sample libraries are inevitable for what I hope to achieve. I spent Saturday going through your awesome Nord Sample Editor course in your site.
I love to hear this. Glad the free Nord Sample course helped! So yes, sometimes it is inevitable where you sometimes just have to have the sample to get the job done easier. Not all sounds are easy to recreate from scratch - I'm still very much learning this skill myself.
Hi Karl. Glad you like the video. Thanks so much for the comment today! I never thought anyone would think of my voice as reminding them of James Taylor but that certainly is a compliment. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for more...
Mr. Motolan... You are so right! When I was making this video (which seems like ages ago now), I hadn't fully appreciated the power of assignable morph controls in the Stage 3. Even more so with the Nord Wave 2 in fact. Yes, if I were to make this same video today, the power of morphing would come out with great emphasis as one of the major differences and I would likely mention it as a possible deal-breaker item as well. Thanks for your comment!
Thank you @Mr K ! Hmm, "Mr K." was the nickname of my former High School music teacher back in the day. That's where it all started (on saxophone). Thanks for stopping by.
Thank you for the great video and clear presentation. I am a Nord newbie (looking) and have become so confused! I was leaning toward the 6D. My question about both: How many custom settings can you store. It only shows 5> or is this 5 banks> THX SO MUCH
Hello @Jim Herrmann and welcome to the channel! There are 416 available locations to store programs on the Nord Electro 6 (400 for the Nord Stage 3 and 512 for the Nord Stage 4). Of those 412, approx 300 are full from the factory. However, any of these can be edited or removed too. So, you get a LOT of space to store your individual programs. By the way, a "program" is the same as a "patch" if you are using that terminology coming from other boards. *The Electro 6 is organized like so:* There are 26 banks (one for each letter of the alphabet). There are 16 programs per letter 26 banks X 16 per letter = 416 program locations. The number system works like this: A:11, A:22, A:23, A:24 A:21, A:22, A:23, A:24 A:31, A:32, A:33, A:34 A:41, A:42, A:43, A:44 B:11, B:22, B:23, B:24 B:21, B:22, B:23, B:24 B:31, B:32, B:33, B:34 B:41, B:42, B:43, B:44 (This continues on like this C through Z) Each letter group can be "paged up" using the Page button, where you'll jump from A to B to C and so on. On top of that, there are 8 "Live" locations for your most favorite of favorites. Live mode provides functionality where you can make a tweak on the fly, and you don't have to push Store, but it will save whatever you adjust. That's both a blessing and a curse, so it's something you have to get used to. Some people use the heck out of "Live Mode," while others never touched it in their life. If you are new to the Nord world, you may want to strongly consider what your needs are because the Stage 3 and Stage 4 keyboards offer quite an additional amount of functionality (at quite an additional amount of investment). This is especially true if you are looking to imitate semi-complex synth sounds. Unless you already have another keyboard fulfilling this role or you know right now that synth sounds are not that important to you, I would consider a Stage 3 or 4 if you can swing the budget. There's never been a better time than now to purchase a Stage 3 for exmaple, as the Stage 4 just came out, causing a Stage 3 drive drop. But even with that, it's still a notable investment. If money was no object, the Stage 4 will elevate you on all levels. Good luck! - Marc
Hey Marc. Can you explain the layering fuction on the Electro6. Its a fuction I saw on a video explaining to a function that you can activate for 2 pianos sounds to be layer together on the Electro 6.
@jaydezproductions2081 Jaydez - sorry for the dela on this. Technically, you can't layer two pianos on the Electro 6 with the piano engine. However, you can layer a sampled piano played through the synth engine on top of a piano coming from the piano engine. So, in that way, yes, you can layer two pianos.
Something that I did not notice before: There is a difference between the keybed on the Electro 6D and the Stage 3 compact. The Electro 6 seems to be completely unweighted, or at least a lighter version of semi-weighted than what the Stage 3 compact is. I haven't decided which I like better.
Hi Nick. I hadn't noticed that! I made an assumption that it was from the same keybed since they were both described as a "semi-weighted waterfall". This is very interesting and good to know. In the music stores around here, we're lucky to have any Nord keyboard on display, let alone both the Stage 3 Compact and a Nord Electro 6 side by side. I was at NAMM recently where this would have been easy to do. But didn't think to compare this exact combo for keybed feel. Let us know which you decide on.
@@MyKeysToMusic Its a pretty subtle difference! I've only been able to notice it after playing both units extensively. I was also about to compare the action to my Crumar Mojo 61, and the Electro 6D seems to be much closer. I still have a very tough choice between the 2 units because for me, the Nord pianos are second to none on a stage piano IMO. The extra features that you get on the stage make it the clear buy, BUT I also have a Yamaha MODX that I dedicate to other sounds and synth duties. Even after all of this time, the decision between the Stage and the electro is not an easy one!
@@nickyates9820 Not an easy decision at all. I don't know much about the Yamaha MODX but it looks to be a really strong board that would not be easy to push aside. And as great as the Nord Stage 3 is, there may be sounds on the Yamaha that don't have an exact likeness on the Stage 3 if you're really married to the Yamaha patches that you currently use. They need to have a 90 day trial period so we can test this out! 😎
@@MyKeysToMusic I love the J3P0 NS3 videos. He shows you a lot of the capabilities on the NS3, especially how pitch bend and mod wheel can be used. I think that you can technically use pitch bend and mod wheel on the electros, but you have to do it via an external keyboard. Having that full blown synth and everything else that the stage does is just kind of a no-brainer for only about $1k more USD depending on where you purchase.
@@MyKeysToMusic Another big thing for me was having another board to access other sounds with that has a lighter action about it. The NS3+ midi controlled with all of the bells and whistles was a consideration, but not sure if you need to use a sound module to make such a thing work.
Great video and analysis!! Really helpful -- thanks a lot. I have a question. I can see a link to the music stand on your description of the video, but could you please confirm whether it's compatible with the Stage 3 Compact? I've checked the official Nord website and have the impression that it isn't. After watching your video, I was inclined to get the Stage 3 over the Electro 6D (my initial choice), but for the Stage 3 Compact not to be compatible with the music stand would be a small but significant drawback for me (I missed it so badly on my Electro 5D). Great video again, Mark, thanks for it!
Hi everygrain3008. Thanks for your question and compliments. It appears that you are 100% correct. The Nord Stage 3 Compact does NOT have accommodations for the Nord music stand. Check out this picture here: www.nordkeyboards.com/sites/default/files/files/products/nord-stage-3/images/NS3-Compact-Top.jpg (you will see that there are no stand holders on the back of the keyboard like there is with the other two Stage models). That's really a shame, but that's the way it goes. I did notice that Nord provides that option for all versions of the Electro 6 - even the 61 key. Wonder if that's something you could "add on" by yourself somehow? For this one, you may have to resort to using a traditional stand for it.
Hello Obby - yes, you are correct. I think the reason for this is that "feel" is one of the harder things to portray in words. 😃 But I hear ya - there is a big need out there to discuss the keybeds because those questions always come up. I did create a video to compare waterfall and HP - although my approach to compare them is unique: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHyrFF_0xb4.html
A big congrats to you Theodoric AC! Welcome to the world of Nord keyboards. From all accounts, I believe you'll be quite pleased with the Nord Piano 4 especially if you're a classical pianist. Get a good pair of headphones and give us an update once you get it if you can. Thanks for watching!
@@soulmas520 Sounds Good! Until then, you can get even more excited watching Piano Man Chuck report on his purchased a month ago: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-v-IKFeWXjSo.html
My Keys To Music hehe it was actually that review + me finally trying a stage 3 at a local guitar center (ive been shopping around for months, tried many a Yamaha, Roland, Korg etc) that sold me on the piano 4!
Hi Marc, me again. Just re watching this video you did as even though I now own the electro 6d I was a bit curious as to the differences between these two boards. I’m going to be using my keyboard for a function band playing classic tunes like I wish, don’t stop till you get enough etc and I’ve already had some joy reassigning the patch’s I’ll switch between quickly. However when watching a video from 10 years ago I notice they used some patches not listed in the Nord sound manager. Am I right that you can load any stage 3 sound into the electro 6? And would there be a go to sound for playing string lines and brass lines? I’ve kind of got used to using soul horns because of their detuned nature and somewhat realistic sound. On the video they use Spiv brass and Marcato strings which I can’t see on the manger list. Here’s the link :
Hello @chris gaskell thanks for your question and congrats on your Electro 6D. Although you can't use any "Programs" from the Stage 3 in your Electro 6, you can use compatible samples which can be found on the Nord website. You are able to use any sample from Sample Library 3: www.nordkeyboards.com/sound-libraries/nord-sample-library-30 The link you sent got removed by RU-vid by the way. I was not able to find any Nord sample called Spiv brass nor could I find Marcato strings. Perhaps there were programs with that name but not samples with that name?
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks Marc not to worry. I found the Nord user forum and have since downloaded some much better brass patches with a few different patches and articulations. I’m a little surprised at how average the samples for brass are compared to the stellar pianos etc in the official library. You would have thought brass was just hard to sample but the sounds I’ve found are sooo much better. I’ve also found that bespoke samples are a good way around having more than one synth sound together. All in all I’m super happy with what I’ll be able to produce with the Electro.
@@chrisgaskell This is really good to know (that you got the custom brass samples to work). Like you, I think there is room for improvement regarding the brass samples from Nord. It could simply be that the people making these samples are not brass players. I've been a sax player most of my life so with that you get to hear what a good brass section actually sounds like. I'll have to check out the Nord User Forum for and see what there is to see. A LOT of people ask about better brass sounds. It would make a good video.
@@MyKeysToMusic in the forum if you search Brass there is a guy on there who’s posted patches for superstition. Of those patches there’s a really useful FP patch which swells great and sounds much better than the Nord stock sounds. There’s also a fall, doit and shake patch so I’ll probably program those into the 4 buttons like you demonstrate on making set lists and then when playing brass lines flick between the sounds as I play. For me the best stock brass on the Nord is soul horns and brass pop 2 (I think). I guess the organ and pianos are so good that comparatively the brass is disappointing. Btw I’ve figured out that if I sample or find a sample of layered sounds I can get more than one synth patch playing at once - like brass split with strings. Which I guess is the most obvious covers band requirement. Thanks for all your videos very helpful for a newbie.
Great suggestion @David Aghado. I don't own a Piano 5 and historically I tend to stear clear of the Nord Piano reviews/training and focus on the Nord Stage and synths exclusviely . Here is something to get you started however: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N54HU-GOh7w.html
Hi swancakes This is a great question actually. In the Nord Electro 5 manual, pitch bend information is located on page 15. Yet, the Nord Electro 6 manual doesn't have a single mention of pitch bend at all. That led me to believe that because they had changed the configuration of MIDI a bit with upper and lower, that perhaps they removed that option. After all, they also removed the "setlist/song mode" option so it's a possibility. However, when reading down the list of fixes to the Nord Electro 6 OS, there is mention of "pitch bend". So, it seems to me that perhaps there is in fact pitch bend compatibility with the Electro 6. If anyone is reading this and can do a test, please let us know. I don't have my hands on an actual Nord Electro 6 to test it directly. Great question, thanks for watching!
Roland FA 08 is old but offers audio over usb. This allows me to send vst patches out the FA L/R outs without the need for a separate audio interface. Any insight on why Nords dont have this ?
Hello @Harold You asked a very popular question and we are no closer to an answer on this. I suspect adding the ability to send audio over USB is that much more complex for the manufacturer and perhaps they just had to draw the line as to what was possible/feasible? That would be my guess. Nord is a much smaller company than Roland so there could be an "economy of scale" at play. So, I really don't know the answer and I don't see this changing anytime soon. An Audio interface is required I'm afraid. Good question - it comes up a lot.
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks for the answer. I guess we’ll keep the FA for some time to come. I’ll still go ahead and get the Nord Grand and Nord Electro 6D for church and reserve the FA for synth work as well as when we need vst stuff. Later in the year maybe I’ll look more into the newly announced Fantom 0 I saw a few hours ago. But for now The Nords will be primarily for piano and organ works. What do u think of that ? 2 Nords and an FA for proper synth snd vst stuff?
@@harold12A I think that is a terrific plan. The Nords do great for pianos and organs. The FA is going to be a more capable synth overall and if it can play VSTs, even better. If someone was starting from scratch, I might have them lean towards a Stage 3 and/or a Nord Wave 2 which also have decent synth capability and they wouldn't have to learn two platforms. However, in your case, since you already know Roland, I think your plan is a good one!
@@MyKeysToMusic btw...thanks for the comparison...I ordered yesterday the NS3 compact. No more hauling the Fender Rhodes (Mark I ) and the Moog Voyager...enough is enough ! Too old for that sh**.
@@MyKeysToMusic Yes.. what a monster. Totally overwhelmed. I'm surprised by the synth-section. Some leadsounds can really rival my Moog Voyager. Happy Nord stage owner here 👍
I know this is a somewhat old video (but still pretty good), but what's left out is the advantage of having Digital Drawbars instead of the Physical ones. With the Digital version, the settings can be changed in real time by a foot pedal while playing.
Hello @St8kout thanks for your comment and observation. Actually, you can assign a control pedal morph to the drawbars in the exact same way for any Stage 3 whether it has digital or physical drawbars. Both keyboards offer the same exact abilities. The one difference is that with the digital drawbars, you can "see the morph" movement on the drawbars themselves whereas, with the physical drawbars, you don't see any physical movement. You do however see the drawbar line representations for either keyboard type on the digital display in the middle of the panel as you move the control pedal back and forth. So, you get the same exact sound functionality with either keyboard. What would be really nice is if they could have automated the physical drawbars so that they would actually move as you move the pedal (like you see in some automated mixing boards where the sliders move up and down based on how you program them). I'm glad you brought this point up because at first blush, it might be viewed as a limitation with the physical drawbars but in fact, sonically at least, there is no limitation. 👍🏼
Thanks for this Marc, a great comparison. A quick question if I may - would it be possible (for bigger gigs) to use an external 2nd keyboard to play the Nords piano section only, and have the Nord keys for organ & synth? Then I could go waterfall and use my old Korg TR88 for the weighted piano stuff at the same time?
Hello @garyking4032 Yes, this is very possible with both the Electro and the Stage. On the Electro you'd use the "External Keyboard to Low" option. On the Nord Stage 3, you would use the option called "Dual Keyboard" - I have a video on that here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE---ml3X1Lm-8.html I also have pro courses available on my website when/if you pull the trigger on either one of these keyboards where I have lessons for all this stuff already ready to go.
yeah so can you tell me when I DO get my Nord Stage 3 88 ( it's ordered) and at 14:04 you talk abt the Extern Button - now I am using an Akai Mpk 261 with my Macbook and Mainstage , Omnisphere and Unify - so my question is can I use the sounds from my Nord Stage 3 and use the Nord as my midi controller /with my Macbook at the same time ? that would be cool IF I could to mix the two together or at least go back and forth
Hello @Grantti. YES! you can use the Extern option from your Nord Stage 3 and have that directly control MainStage to layer all the sounds at once. You'll just want to make sure you have an audio interface to be the central place where all the sound gets wired to. This will help you avoid lag. On a related note, I demonstrate some basic setups here on RU-vid for your Stage 3. This first one is for NS3 to GarageBand for recording: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UU6j5o3YfaA.html Then, when you're ready to record with MIDI and then have it trigger your Nord Stage 3 sounds, you can graduate to this setup here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V_FGQ83xH0Q.html I don't have a video directly explaining what you are actually looking for specifically, but it's on the list and has been for some time. Luckily, what you want to do with MainStage is very straightforward and one of the easier setups. Just think of your Nord keyboard as a kind of controller and it will all make sense on the setup. It's pretty much identical to how you would set up any external keyboard controller into the computer. The only difference here is that with the Stage 3, you have a dedicated section of the panel for it (Extern), and it comes with its own dedicated set of MIDI channels with options for Panel A and B independently. You can also drive split points and a few other nifty features. Here is a video on how Extern really works in much more detail: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YyfWnqmsshM.html. In my online paid course, I demonstrate how to use Extern to drive and calibrate program changes into external keyboards or the computer.
Seamless transitions need to be clarified. It was said here that if you sustain a sound with the sustain pedal, the sound doesn't change until you play a new note. What happens to the old sustained sound at that point. Does it continue with old sound, does it continue with the new sound, or are the notes just killed to silence. Although I prefer the sound of the Nord Stage 3, the Korg Kronos continues to play the original sustained sounds so that the sounds overlap, and long release sounds.
@itsjusterthought Thank you for your comment here and request to clarify. I just did some testing just now and I'll break this down into separate considerations for us: 1) Sustain Pedal. When holding the sustain pedal on a sound that would sustain indefinitely (like a synth sound versus a piano), so long as you are holding the sustain pedal through the transition, the previous sound will be heard until you lift the sustain pedal. 2) Reverb: You'll hear the reverb from the previous sound for as long as it is set to when transitioning to the new sound. 3) Delay: You'll hear the delay from the previous sound for a bit (several seconds) but not for as long as it may have been originally set for. If you set a delay to have a tail that lasts let's say 10 seconds, you might get about 4 seconds after you transition. The amount seems to be pre-determined. 4) Release: Similar to the delay, you maintain some release during the transition but not as much as you originally set it to. The amount seems to be pre-determined and my best guess is about 4 seconds. So even if you set the release to 45 seconds (the max), you'll get about 4 after you transition. In summary, the seamless transition seems to be exact for the sustain pedal and reverb. For delay and release, however, you still get some seamless transitioning happening, but not as much as what you originally set the dials to. Hope that helps! Great question and never until today did I analyze all 4 of these nuances here and their individual behavior. Oh, and another side note while we're at it. If you set the synth to use the arpeggiator and hold the sustain pedal while it's arpeggiating, it will hold through the arpeggiation through the transition until the sustain pedal is released. Could make for some interesting performance options there.
I'm considering buying the 6D 73 for my Doors tribute band, but I need to route the bass to L output and organ, piano or e. piano to R output. Also I need to dissable the volume pedal for the bass, just want it for the organ, piano or e. piano (especially when soloing, since I'm always using both hands for playing). The same for the sustain pedal. Is that possible? Thank you for your help :)
@Max Terrazos Sorry for the delay on this response here. So yes, this is possible. Let me take each one at a time: 1)So the output settings are hard-coded to either Stereo (all engines coming from L and R) or Organ in one channel and Piano and Synth in the other. So, not exactly what you are looking for there. 2) You can disable/enable the volume (known as the control pedal) on any sound engine independent from one another - no problem with that. 3) You can disable/enable the sustain pedal on any sound engine independent from one another - no problem with that either. Did you already happen to see my Doors video? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c2ak_g-TLXA.html Best of luck with your decision!
Hi! Thanks for the great comparison. What I'd like to ask is a how good the Nord Stage synth is? I mean for the price difference between Stage and Electro I can buy for example a Novation Peak or Prophet rev2-8 desktop. Of course such bundle will be a bit heavier, but for a studio use cases it might make sense.
@ koban4egg Great question and one that has a lot of subjective overtones... and it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison here. The Novation (at first blush) has some really strong features. 3 Oscillators with 2 LFOs and a 4 pole ADSR. Lots of flexibility with how you connect it. It's sort of a swiss army knife and something you can use in a lot of different scenarios. It has only 8 voices however, (which may be more than enough for most things) but still way less than the Stage 3 which has 34 voices across two panels. That does and will make an impact on things. The Novation is also lacking a keyboard! This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it. With the Stage 3 having the "on board" synth right there with a single knob to mix it in can be powerful and convenient and all in one package driven from the same keyboard. Now if the Novation was $800 instead of $1400, I might be leaning big towards the Novation. But at $1400 the decision becomes a bit trickier and harder to make. What I love about the Novation is the fact that you can pick it up, plug in a simple mini keyboard controller and be relaxing in your favorite easy chair while making your next favorite sound. The Stage 3 is more of a studio or gigging piece of gear of pro gear. So, what I'm talking about here is form factor. There is something special about having an ultra-portable synth module option where you can grab and go. I think with any decision like this you have to figure out where the dealbreakers are and work your way down the list similar to how I do the comparison videos. For example, when you are playing your Electro, are you going to be inconvenienced by having to plug in another synth, get it connected to the PA and then MIDI it up so that you can hear it? During a gig for example, having one extra keyboard is 2X the complexity and time to monkey with it all - especially considering this is a module without a keyboard so that's one more thing to connect and configure (MIDI channels, etc.) Regarding a synth like the Sequential Prophet Rev 2-08, you're still talking about a subjective aspect to a decision like this and some more apples and oranges I'm afraid. For this, you are getting a very strong (and likely very nice sounding) synth for about the same price as the Novation. David Smith instruments are world-class machines with a ton of bells and whistles. The Sequential has a built-in sequencer which no Nord keyboard has. This alone is a compelling feature and one that could drive some interesting options for you. Now that I've reflected on all this, I'm compelled to identify potential one big-ticket items to help you with your decision: 1) If you are a synth enthusiast or plan to be, consider getting a third-party external synth. I think you'll get more enjoyment out of having a dedicated board purpose build with the sole purpose of being the best synth it can be. Also, if you plan on really having fun "designing sounds" and just having fun with music (versus a semi-pro player in a cover band for example), again, get the third-party synth. 2) The Stage 3 is a great all-around board that can dress for just about any occasion. In a second, you can have piano, organ or synth or all three. It's got lots of arms and legs and there is hardly a song you can't cover just using the single board. But it was designed primarily to be a performance board, one focused on getting the job done in the studio or at a gig and not necessarily designed for the synth enthusiast or sound designer. For that, consider the Wave 2. But even with the Nord Wave 2 , that too is really a performance keyboard (in fact they put "performance keyboard" right on the labeling). So for me, the decision would come down to this. If I plan on playing in a band or I'm a busy pit musician for musicals or a studio player called in to do session after session, I'd get a Stage 3 no questions asked. I wouldn't fool around with another synth to save my life. The setup alone kills the mojo on that. If however, I wanted to spend part of my time with sound design, understand synthesis, and provide me the flexibility to turn on a great sounding synth and just have fun, as in composing via a comupter, I'd strongly consider the Electro/3rd party synth route. If you are leaning towards a third-party synth and you're wondering between the Novation and the Prophet. I'd ask yourself in what scenario you are going to find yourself in. As a gigging/traveling musician, you'll likely want the "real board" so go Prophet. If you plan on doing more stuff at home consider either. I really like the Novation and the features it has. The problem is there are way too many good choices out there making it nearly impossible to decide on where to put your hard-earned $1500! And technically speaking, each of these boards you mentioned needs about 8 pages of comparison details to really get to the bottom of it all. To do that, I'd probably need to own each and be really familiar with all they can do. In this comment, I just flew over things quick-like and I know that I didn't mention many other angles to this equation. Best of luck with your research on this! 🏄
Loved the video. It was much needed. Watching the advertisements for the Electro 6 I began to wonder what the differences were. I have the Nord Stage 3 Compact (thanks to you) already and the electro 6 really seemed like a good deal. I like how you brought out the fact that you cannot do pitch/mod wheel functions with a midi keyboard with the electro. I was unaware. For me that is one of the main features that is a must. As the keyboard player in a cover band they look to me to create every sound that is not a drum, bass or guitar. So I have to be able to control pitch and modulation via wheels or a stick. Great video as always. Super informative and yes your videos make the buying process easier and even after owning one they help unleash the power of the boards. I wish manufacturers did this for their own products. I know they will never be the viral videos so many RU-vidrs are trying to make but they are SO helpful to this niche market. And I know just how long it takes to produce content of this caliber.
Hi Darrick! Nice to hear from you as always and congrats again on your awesome video to compare the Nord Stage 3 with the Korg Kronos 2 - really well done and also much needed (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--FrL4o2Sk7w.html). In fact, your video has more total views than any of mine have ever received thus far, so really nice job on that! Yes, I agree, there is a need for this type of content, and yes, videos like this will likely never go viral, and yes, they are a bit of a time investment to do (between 10 and 20 hours per video at my current pace). That could explain why the manufacturer doesn't do them! In any case, I'm trying to launch a professional training site www.mykeystomusic.com, but I think the RU-vid community likes their free stuff! Will we be seeing any more videos from you? I do understand the time investment! Thanks so much for checking in with your comment today! 😎
@@MyKeysToMusic I do plan on making more videos. I wish I had more time. I am looking to make more in depth instructional videos for the Kronos as that is something that is lacking quite a bit. But finding the time to do it is hard. I play in two bands and work a 9-5 lol.
@@darrickkeels6387 Darrick! Like you I also have a 9 to 5. That plus I also play in a band and there is family as well, so before you know it, there's not much time left! You surely are a busy guy and I get it! Oh, and I'm getting closer to launching a Patreon account. I'm thinking that might be a good platform to provide some behind the scenes info as well as more regular updates on my progress for the next videos for the most loyal subs (like you!). Thanks again for your update here.
Hi. Great video. Please clarify if I'm able to send b3 bass to bass pedal keys through midi and still have dual organ on keyboard? Thanking you in anticipation
Thank you S C! Well, I don't know the definitive answer to this question only because I haven't tested this exact combination. However, my short answer is that this should be very possible with the right setup. The pedal keys transmit MIDI out to MIDI in on the Nord keyboard using the traditional 5 PIN DIN MIDI cable. Plugging in the pedal keys occupies the MIDI in port on the Nord competing with the need for the same thing using the Dual keyboard feature of the Nord Stage 3. But I suspect this will work fine if you get a MIDI splitter or use a MIDI-compatible interface. In other words, you need a way to plug-in two MIDI controllers into the Nord keyboard at the same time (one controller for your pedal keys and one to control your Dual Keyboard feature). I have a video on how to do this actually. Have a look because I think the same theory demonstrated in that video can be applied to your question here. Report back with your thoughts if you can. Here is the video if you haven't already seen it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LN5KlPOXZ9Q.html Good luck!
Thanks, this is very helpful. I have one question - can you put your own samples on either keyboard? I see that Nord has plenty of extras that can be uploaded, but I'd like to add samples of my own bass guitar.
Hi Robert. Thanks for your comment and glad you found the video helpful! Sampling your bass is no problem at all. All modern Nord keyboards can play samples (except for the Nord Lead A1) AND you can make your own samples with the help of the Nord Sample Editor software that runs on either Windows or Macintosh. Learn more here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--yxVDExgtz8.html
Hi Marc! I have watched every video on your channel as a NS Compact 3 user and mainly because of that, I am using the keyboard in more ways as expected. Come to think of it, due to this, I decided to buy the Stage! Thanks again for all your time in making those vids! A short and friendly request: I read a lot about all OS updates. Many users are still on 1.40 due to bugs. Have you experienced any? I am on the newest update (1.52) and experienced a bug in the synth section and now thinking about getting back to 1.50, for example. It's too bad Nord can't seem to get a grip on their software right now. But then again, for me it's not the end of the world. Any thoughts? Thanks again! Timo
Hi Timo! *So glad these videos helped you with your purchase and your discovery of the Nord Stage 3!* Now on to your question. I have heard that bugs do get introduced when the new OS arrives from time to time. Like you mentioned, sometimes these bugs are minor and don't affect most people. I think I have discovered a bug on the latest OS whereby if you put the delay on and set the dry/web setting all the way to 10, you don't hear the notes as you play them. You only hear the delay portion of the note. Moving the setting back down to something lower seems to fix the issue. I don't' recall this being an issue with earlier OS versions. I could be wrong about this but I think it's a bug. This is with version 1.52. People sometimes ask if we should be updating to the latest OS. In general, I think it's a good idea because they (Clavia) probably fix more things than they break with every release. But, like most things in the software world (I own a software company), it's very difficult to do regression testing. And because of that, new fixes sometimes introduce new bugs unintentionally. It would be nice if Nord provided earlier versions of the OS so we could go back and test. Perhaps it's a good idea to archive the OS versions on our own as they come out. *Good question and thanks for watching!*
Also, it doesn't look like you can use the Nord Triple pedal on the Electro 6. That is also perhaps a deal breaker because you don't get the full experience with the piano section on the Electro 6d.
@@MyKeysToMusic Howdy Mark - No problemo! Its nearly impossible to catch everything, especially on a first go around. I had no idea until I was actually considering the triple pedal.
Hi, thanks for the really detailed video, I'm having to choose between a NS3 compact and a NE6D too and I have a few questions: - I know that both have MIDI in so I could connect an external keyboard controller and play one sound on the controller and another on the nord, but what about TWO external controllers? Provided that I have one of those midi boxes could I use for example an 88 weighted controller and a 61 or 49 synth type controller and play piano, synth/samples and organ on the nord at the same time? - When in organ mode, since most of the organs were originally 61 keys manuals, what happens on the extra keys (73 keys models)? do they extend the sound simulation beyond the range of the originals? do they fill the bottom end with simulated bass keys? - Also, how long do you think the stage 3 is going to stay on the market? I wouldn't want to buy it if they're going to release a stage 4 next year haha.
Hi Geancarlos. Here are answers to your questions as I know them so far: 1) Using a proper MIDI device/setup, it should be very possible to have multiple controllers driving the sounds of either panel. (One for Panel A and one for Panel B) allowing for two simultaneous and independent sound sources. Each panel has its own ability to receive MIDI on a separate channel. I'll attempt to confirm this as soon as time allows. 2) The Organ engine for all organs except for the Farfisa appear to represent the entire range of the available keyboard. In other words, there is no simulation or duplication as far as I can tell with the testing I've done. However, for the organ set to Farfisa, the lower and upper registers are "duplicated" as if they put the 61 keys in the center of the Nord keyboard. As you move very low or very high in the range, you'll hear the notes repeated to make up the difference. So, the notes are not simulated, but they are duplicated (at least for the Farfisa) 3) I have no insight into what Clavia and will do. One can assume they will eventually create a Nord Stage 4 or maybe a Nord Stage 3 EX or something like that. But I haven no formal relationship with Clavia at this time to know that information. And if I did have a relationship, it's likely I couldn't share future info like this. What I can tell you is that these keyboards last through the ages. There are countless people still using a Stage 2 for example and they appear to hold value in the used market fairly well. You may find out more by calling around to the people who regularly sell new Nords (music retailers/distributors). But even then, I think they don't know the information. I know that every time I ask this same question from my associates at retail stores, they never know what's coming next or when. If you find out, let us know! Thanks for your great questions and for watching!
Great review here!! maybe you can help me here. Im actually trying to decide in between the Nord Electro 6HP 73 and the Nord Piano 5 73, what do you think there? Im a pianist but looking for the better accoustic piano feeling keyboard but also having nice effects. Also need something not so heavy that I need now for a theater work. Cause of thtat im in between those two nice Nordies. I saw the Electro HP has some more focus on the Electric keyboard and organs but did you try the Nord 5? It suposse to have the better keyboard piano feeling, and some synths possibilities. Thanks for your Job, greetings
Hello @Tango Malucco sorry for delay on this response here. If you haven' already made your decision, I would lean towards the Piano 5 in your case - especially since you mentioned that "feel" is important to you. You'll get the Triple Sensor keybed with grand weighted action even with the 73 key Nord Piano 5 which is going to be better than the HP73 from the Electro. The Piano 5 also has two layers (that's more than the Electro with one layer). The only big thing you're missing on the Piano that you get on the Electro is the organ engine. If you can live without that, I'd go Piano 5 all the way...
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks 😊🙏 I'm pretty sure I'll get mine this week OMG... what about the Nord speakers? Did u try them? Do they really deserve to be the speakers of the Nord ? What do you use to amplify your Nord? I have a Bose amp which I love but i will not have the stereo audio with it
@@juanmanueltellechea4981 When you ask the question, "What do you use to amplify your Nord?" That opens up about 3 different Pandora's boxes! 😉I recommend you read this as your homework assignment but do so as you sit down with some wine because you are now on a journey of adventure and discovery and a journey with a fair amount of twists and turns along the way. www.norduserforum.com/accessories-and-amplification-f8/nord-amplification-faq-t16772.html As far as the Nord Studio Monitors go, I think they are likely to be a really good solution if you are just looking for simple amplification in the home/studio. I don't own them myself but I hear good things. They are pricy as they are branded and purpose-built.
Thank you for decision/analysis videos, And I have some questions about routing Stage3 to an any 88- key controllers-Weighted hammer action key I mean Studiologic SL88 or any(Closely real piano feels), My curious is, Can I play the piano sounds(from Nord piano library) that midi send from Stage 3 to SL88 but have a triple-sensored likes(or edit on SL88?)+triple pedal(Like on Nord piano3-4)? Can't wait to see the next videos, Cheers
Thanks Mr. Mad Sounds! Yes, there is a LOT of depth when it comes to these keyboards. AND technically speaking, you could have a dedicated video just on every knob/button - because you really can go that deep on a lot of these aspects and features. Thanks for watching!
Appreciate the comparison your visual on the split and the layers between the 3 & the 5 was fantastic. it would be a nice add for the difference between the 3 & the 6. With 65% of America being visual you’ve done a great job in teaching in that method
Tommy - I'm so happy you wrote this comment today. I've been preaching the power of video training, demonstration, and explaining tough concepts to family, friends, colleges, or anyone who is willing to listen. From the time I was a child watching Jurrasic Park and the part came on where the good Dr. was showing a video to the group of scientists how dinosaurs were created, I was hooked. From that day forward, I inherently understood and appreciated the power and effectiveness of this so-called "explainer video". Not unlike your stats where 65% of America is visual, I believe that video training and video explaining is the best way for the average human being to learn, appreciate and even be inspired by complex subject matter. And in the word of music, perhaps it's even more important since hearing is at the root of it all. Thanks again for your comments and support!
Hi Glezsa Musik. Thank you so much for the clarification here. I didn't realize that at the time of the recording but you are correct of course. And with 8 live locations, that means there are more locations than the previous Electro 5 and even the Nord Stage 3. Great catch. Thanks for watching!
I'm not gonna buy a Nord anytime soon, I feel they are the Ferrari of keyboards, highly priced, but extremely well made. I have actually looked at getting a Nord Electro, but there's no pitch bend so I can't, gonna have to start with a MODX or wait for Korg to release something. I've also wondered, why hasn't Nord added USB-Audio. I know, it's not a big deal because the Nord is more of a performance keyboard, but it's honestly a nice to have, especially when you can't shell $$$ for an Apollo or Audient interface to get that clean sound. I don't have a Nord but your channel is refreshing. 😁
Thank you for your comment, Tony. Yes, I hear good things about the MODX and yes, it would be helpful at times to have audio out via the USB. I've managed to work around it. Lack of a pitch bend on the Electros is the single biggest request from people. I can only guess that they don't include it because it doesn't come with a full-featured synth engine but that's just a guess. Thanks again for stopping by and enjoying the channel!
@louiscornale5667 Hello Louis. Either the Stage or the Electro one can be used for "Wooly Bully" as they have the exact same organ. They also have the same piano engine.
Hallo Marc, thank you for your great Job! I watch your Videos and like them very much. Maybe can you advise me, what is more funktional : Nord electro 6 + Nord lead3 or Nord stage 3? Best regards!
Hi belena vox. Thanks for your comment and so glad you like the videos. You are asking a pretty tough question. I think the first question you have to ask yourself is do you want two keyboards or one keyboard when performing? And I'm making an assumption you are a performing musician. I'm a bit reluctant to attempt to answer this because if you ask 10 musicians this same question, you're going to get 10 different answers all with good reasons that work for them. So I'd like to encourage you to do what works best for YOU of course. With that said, I'll mention a few things that come to MY mind when I ask myself this same question. I play half my gigs with a single keyboard setup and the other half with two keyboards. It's a simple as this: If there is no bass player, I bring two boards and have one board dedicated to the key base. I'm still working on improving my own rig too so I'm sure this will be changing over time. All things being equal, I think there is a slight advantage to showing up with a single keyboard versus one. So my vote would be a Stage 3 in this case. Price wise, it all depends on which model you choose from the 3 boards you are considering. But it ends up being fairly close? Advantages of a single keyboard rig: 1) More keyboard stand options. You can use a simple (less expensive) single keyboard stand with opportunities to sit or stand. In a two keyboard rig, it's likely you're going to be standing and certainly making a slightly bigger investment in a keyboard stand to support two boards. I like standing better so even when I bring a single keyboard to a gig, I stand. 2) Less to set up and tear down for a quicker and easier time at the gig. I can tell you that adding a second keyboard to your rig will add to the setup/teardown time. More trips to the car, 2x cables, etc. A lot more drama in a two or more keyboard setup. That's just a physics problem. 3) Less room needed to put the cases and such while playing and potentially a smaller vehicle required to get you there. On my single keyboard gigs, I could go in my Mazda MX5. On gigs with two keyboards, I needed a bigger vehicle. This is perhaps a lame example, but no matter how you slice it, a two keyboard rig is a bigger footprint when traveling, when setting up, and while on stage. 4) Easier to rig the sound. Potentially fewer outputs to the board and less to worry about overall. Every keyboard you add to the rig means you have one more keyboard output to consider and eventually route to the PA. 5) One less control pedal, one less sustain pedal and because there are fewer cables and pedals, the look on stage is a tad cleaner. 6) You can switch your program on a single keyboard and have it ready for the next song. In a two keyboard rig, there are potentially two keyboards that need to be touched and switched each to their own patch per song. The Stage 3 is especially good at song/sound management - a few cuts above the Electro 6 in fact. For a gig with a lot of sound change requirements, I'd much rather have a Stage 3. A computer on stage can solve this but that's more equipment and it also means you have to want to add a computer to your rig. Pros of a two keyboard setup: 1) Flexibility? Having two keyboards means that can separate the uses by keyboard. In other words, your Nord Lead 3 synth can be more of your lead/melody keyboard while the Electro 6 can hold down more of the rhythm and backing/pad/piano duties. Sometimes it's nice to have an entire keyboard dedicated to sound grouping like this. 2) Potentially less programming ahead of the gig. In a single keyboard setup, you really have to have all your ducks in a row. Sounds have to be split correctly and you really have to think about what sounds you're going to need on every song to be sure everything is where you need it. In a two keyboard rig, you can dedicate each board with less overall duties. (See #1). So in my opinion, there is slightly less programming in a two keyboard rig. In the case of having an Electro 6 and Lead 3 however, I think the Lead is going to be doing mostly lead sounds so the same amount of programming may have to happen on the Electro 6. 3) More prominent stage presentation (perhaps). Two keyboards being played by a standing keyboard player looks good on stage in my opinion (more energy). However, even with that, nowadays, I love it when I only need to bring a single keyboard that can handle all the duties because it's just "that much easier" all around. Maybe it's because I'm getting older too? :) So there, you have it. I'm sure I've missed a ton of other ideas but perhaps someone else will chime in with their ideas too. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Hello @HAMZA it's not possible to directly transfer programs from the Electro 5 to the Stage 3. All sounds on the Nord Stage 3 have to be recreated from scratch by hand. However, you are able to use any custom samples that might exist on the Electro 5 and use them in the Stage 3. The programs however are not directly convertible. You'll have to create the sounds over again on the Stage 3. Although I wish there was a solution for this, the skills you'll learn by recreating them yourself will come in handy for any new sounds you want to program down the road on the Stage 3. You may want to consider taking a look at my website for courses or my Patreon site for lots of lessons and sound setups for the Stage 3. I'm adding to the libraries all the time.
Mark, i’ve been trying to find a patch for my Nord stage three for the sound that they use on the song by Survivor high on you. Any suggestions please thank you.
Thank you for this!! Another factor i think is budget too! As the stage series has higher prices. 🤣 But for my needs as a gigging musician, i think i'll go with the electro. Now i am a piano player more than an organ player. I think the 6hp is the way to go. You think? Thanks!
Hello, yes, I think you make a good point. Nord prices have shot up in 2022 and if you can get away with an Electro, the budget will be a tad better. The HP is geared toward those that play the piano. The key action on the HP is fairly "resistant/stiff" so it does better if you tend to have strong hands and are piano oriented. Some say it's "too stiff" while others say it's perfect.
@@MyKeysToMusic for my budget, the electro is within reach. The ne6hp is my end game for now. Thanks for the response! Really good comparisons you have here.
@@remedyofficialvlogs47 This sounds good. The Electro is a solid offering and has covered me in gigs for years (starting with the Electro 3 back in the day). It never lets me down.
@@remedyofficialvlogs47 Yes - I hear ya! And I wish I could say the prices are going down, but that's not something anyone is saying about anything here in 2022... There is however a healthy used market and I recommend you check out Reverb.com. That's where I purchased my used Electro 6 and saved quite a bit. Check out my video on that if you haven't already about my experience with all this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OZ2Zd7RiHJE.html
Nice job Mark, very good comparison. I think price has to be a consideration as well. The Stage 3 Compact, the lowest priced stage with manual drawbars, is 1100 bucks more than the NE6D 73. That's a huge difference in investment. I'm seriously considering the NE6D 73 (My current Nord is an NE3 61). I think for the money the NE6 is a great value even with some of the limitations compared to the stage.
Hi Lou! Thanks for your comment and yes, the price is a HUGE factor. I sometimes leave price out of these videos for a couple of reasons: 1) Price always changes. 2) People tend to already have a firm appreciation for price long before they watch the video. But with that said, I should have said things like, "You'll pay a lot more for the Stage 3 in most cases so you'll want to consider that as part of your decision." So point well taken here! The only small complaint I've heard about the Nord Electro 6 is the fact that they removed the "Set List/Song Mode" feature that was there in the Electro 5 (and is also available in the Nord Stage 3). They do have an "organize function" on the Electro 6 that allows you to put your programs in your preferred order, but perhaps that is not as effective as having a dedicated setlist/song mode option? Other than that, I think the Electro 6 makes for a fine offering especially if you can live without the other dealbreakers mentioned in the video. Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Yeah, disappointed they removed the Song List functionality from the 6 but the other things they added would prevent me from buying a left over 5D. Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your videos. I don't know if you take requests but I would love to know your review of the HP action. I'm torn between the 6D 73 and the 6HP but am leaning toward the D. @@MyKeysToMusic
@@ldifalco2010 So glad you like the videos. Did you happen to see my video on those two keybeds? Here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHyrFF_0xb4.html I can tell you that the 6HP is a bit harder (takes more effort) to play - especially quickly. But it does have a more rugged feel and potentially allows you to have more expression - especially if you are a traditional piano player. Watch my video to see if that helps in some small way with your decision. I also discuss the keybeds a bit in my comparison video part 1 where I compare the Nord Electro 5D 73 with the Stage 3 HP found here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rwK3ivTDVjg.html&vl=en
@@MyKeysToMusic Right now most places have the Stage 3 for $3500 and the electro for $2999 barely a huge difference. I think what sold me is also the sounds the Stage 3 has as well as the 2 Panels. Thanks for this video.
Hello Andrey. Yes, there is definitely a difference between the two keybeds. They are both weighted keyboards yes, but the hammer action portable is constructed in a different way. And to me (and perhaps many others) it has more resistance than the 88 key (slightly harder to play). From what I've read, most people who have played both the 88 key and the 76 key tend to like the feel of the 88 key a bit better. But with anything, each person's opinion is different and this is very much a personal choice. Both keybeds are made by Fatar who makes keyboards for a lot of other synth/keyboard manufacturers. The Nord grand is the one keybed made by Kawaii which is supposed to be even better than the Stage 88 key and it also has the triple sensors. The Nord Grand is really good for pure pianists I would say. In any case, if you are on the fence between the 88 and the 76, you'll like find a preference for the 88 key if that also fits in your budget and your space. You really won't be upset with either. I have the 76 and because it provides quite a bit of resistance, it's actually good to strengthen the hands during practice. But then again, my favorite keybed is the semi-weighted and that's mainly because I'm a synth guy first, piano player second. Great question - good luck with your continued research... 👍🏼
@@MyKeysToMusic Also, do you happen to have an experience with electro 6D? I know it's got semi-weighted keybed, but I've heard people say it actually feels pretty good for piano playing.
@@777Witness Yes, I have an Electro 6D semi-weighted waterfall. I think it's fine for piano playing especially if you are comfortable playing on semi-weighted keybeds in general. Now, not everyone will agree with this of course - especially if you were born and raised playing a traditional piano. On that note, here's another video where I take an interesting approach to comparing the two keybeds (Hammer Action versus Semi-Weighted waterfall on a previous Nord Electro 5): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qHyrFF_0xb4.html
