Thing to be noted indian brands like hero TVS doesn't have quality and reliability of Japanese. TVS no exception thier engine are not best so this deal is gonna be bad for Norton
@@ibrahimpallikkal5100 I think not about the name! It's about money! If someone asks me fame or money , I am sure many will choose money! And all the business man and investors are aware of that!
@@ibrahimpallikkal5100 They still are not british company anymore. When you sell something its ownership goes to the buyer. So from now own Norton belongs to an Indian company. Keep crying malayaliee jihadi
TVS is the only company that kept racing alive in India when no one else cared. For Norton to be in racing, no body can be better than TVS among Indian companies. Also expect more of this kind of acquisition to happen in future. India is a major motorcycle market and that market has not fully tasted 'blood' er..iconic brands yet.
@@struggler5960 Bajaj is the one who started making sport segment bikes like the pulsars they introduced racing craze on indian streets honestly TVS was nowhere near to Bajaj back then even now bajaj rules the indian market they own 49% of KTM
Peace And love from India Royal Enfield revived by indian So will be with Norton Innocent people got justice. In india TVS believes in quality. It is one of the best in our country They brought many innovation in there company.
John that’s great to hear. It sounds like TVS has their heart in the right place. As you hear more about the Norton integration, feel free to post as a comment. 👍
@@DirtyDeez apart from norton motorcycle one more indian company mahindra and mahindra automobile has also taken over defunct British motorcycle brand BSA ,and is planning to launch it very soon ,👍😊 best of luck to BSA motorcycle and to mahindra and mahindra automobile company, mahindra and mahindra also took over french scooter brand Peugeot and also plans to launch motorcycle under this brand as well , 👍😊
Being a loyal TVS biker who started from SUZUKI SAMURAI, I Wish only the best to come for TVS as they have been waiting for the breakthrough. I must say, my journey all the way through from Samurai to RR310 , TVS has only best days to come ahead. The brand I always believed in. TVS!
@@DirtyDeez If only they did something more about it. Anyway 3 Jawa models have been launched in India so far (2 300ccs and 1 330cc Bobber), BSA (~500-600cc) to be launched sometime in the fag end of the year. Electric Peugeot scooties are being sold in Europe for now. Triumph along with Bajaj launching a 500-650cc motorcycle next year. So plenty of action to look forward to in the coming months.
BSA is now owned by Mahindra and Mahindra from India. The same company that bought jawa and kick-started manufacture of that brand. They do have plans for BSA as well. We Indians love British motorcycles and would love to be a part of keeping them alive and thriving towards glory
That's a great way to look at it. The British bikes have a rich tradition and it's good to see that the brands, although no longer steered by Brits, will be well taken care of.
@@DirtyDeez Enfields were made in India untouched for a very long time. Thanks to globalization, Royal Enfield has now extended it's roots back to Britain acquiring Harris performance and making it an integral part of the new 650 twin's frame and geometry. What's really great is Mahindra and TVS are far better an Indian organization than Royal Enfield and TVS put their first collaboration product with Suzuki to race. Suzuki withdrew their investments on R&D for over 24 years and TVS on their own developed further on their first bike and dominated the racing scene in India. At least until now, be it RE, land Rover or Jaguar, Indian companies have preserved the Britishness of the brand and I'm sure TVS AND NORTON are two legends coming in each other's help. I wish the Brits could have done much better and we would have many more British motorcycles alive today like the Vincent, Sunbeam etc
A recent update from 2022: TVS is keeping production in the UK, and in April 2022, they announced plans of investing 100mn GBP for this. Most of this is already done (resulting in about 500 direct jobs and about a 1000 more in the extended supply chain). The production facility is at Solihull, UK (close to Birmingham).
i hope those old pepole get their pension moneys back :'( and fyi, TVS declared that norton brand will remain as it was and it will be produced in uk and they will try their best to bring back its old glory.....and tvs is not a con man's company
Hello Rajorshi. I saw a great interview with one of the leaders of TVS and I was most impressed by how genuine he was in doing the best for Norton. I have no doubt that TVS is a company of their word. Thanks for checking it out.
There is no sense of producing norton in uk. It wi make them very costly. It much better to have r&d in uk but manufacture in india. It brings cost down.
@@MrPotatochips4 yes, i also like tibetians live in my country, many tibetians wer ekilled ruthlesly by communist chinese and they also gave money and weapons to indian communists to do same in india😢
@@chandranshpandey1929 yes agreed, production in india will reduce its cost to 10 timesless... It will be good for middle class ppl all over the world as they will be able to afford an ex expensive product
@@DirtyDeez TVS is well established 2 and 3 wheeler automobile company of India ,they also have joint venture with bmw motorcycle for indian market and to export bmw motorcycle to other countries , Be thankful to God that norton was not taken over by Chinese company 😂😜👍😊 we would love to buy norton motorcycle in India .👍😊 Best wishes to norton and United Kingdom 👍
Not only Norton but Royal Enfield ,Jaguar,Land Rover all are owned by Indian companies and are doing very well thanks to these Indian companies that revived them from bankrupcy
The British ruled over India 200 years and now Karma hits back because British motorcycle manufacturer company both Norton and royal Enfield both owned by Indian companies...
Back in the late seventies when I drove a triple cylinder two stroke “rice buggy” as I called Japanese bikes then, my buddies had a Triumph and another bud had a 850 Norton Commando. I always loved that Norton, nice looking and sounded good. Always been a fan of the British bikes, the BSA, Beemer,Moto Guzzi. Your video brought back a lot of memories. This is probably one of the best video I’ve seen. I follow a ton of subscribers and wanted you to know you hit a home run 👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Fourftr thank you for the compliment on the video. Expect more great stuff to come. Those European bikes are some of the classics I really dig them. The Motto Guzzi motor is art in motion. Glad you found the channel, click around there are some cool vids here 👍👍👍
Funny thing that TVS moped that you showed I have seen a lot of them outside wholesalers market, retailers use this moped to load upto 200-300 kgs worth of goods on them and ride away and the crazy thing they used to be 80CC 2 stroke now it's 100CC 4 stroke engines( due to BS6 emissions norms stricter than Europe's) they used to carry loads more than most Americans use their pickup trucks for loads and that too on daily basis.
An old Biker m8 now passed had a 56 Norton, a '77 750GT Guzzi. Plus a BSA & Vincent in bits. Had his own old school water dyno to tweek engines. A great Mechanic he was...
Thanks for the lowdown bud. Very interesting. I always aspired to own a Norton, never had enough spare cash. Maybe the RRP might come down some under TVS. We are still in lockdown here in Ireland, you are lucky to be able to ride bro. The weather has been lovely as well. Ride safe D.Deez.😎🍀
Hey, Jon. Officially we are under lockdown but really, if you have to get out of the house no one will stop you. I have a response ready in case anyone did stop me. “I had to leave to get fuel.” But you’re 50 miles away from your house. “That’s why I have to get fuel!” 😁
Hey Jon, this is a great story and I agree, a Norton would make a great addition to a collection. Here everything is closed with the exception of basically auto related, home improvement stores, grocery stores and banks. So although you can ride, there’s nowhere to go. But we still ride 😎
Like Royal Enfield, Norton is in good hands, RE is doing very well in the Asian market. If the Indian company acquires Harley Davidson, well you know the rest of the story. I have a 2019 FXDR and will need parts in like x number of years.
Loving the up and coming beard dude! Interesting stuff mate. Not sure if they should leave the brand name alone or try and get it going yet again. I’ll be interested to see what TVS do with it all. Take care and God Bless Johnny Cash!
Johnny Cash is a hero to many for the way he turned his life around. It's a great story, really should make a good movie once the full truth comes to the surface.
@@DirtyDeez it was independently developed by TVS. Everything including the design, aero, great ratio, suspension settings was developed by TVS in-house
First time I am checking your Videos .Thank you so much for this good quality presentation . Why ? because I have not heard one swearword . These days people cant even say three words without swearing or using the Lords name . Thank you.
Hey Johan. That’s cool, I haven’t had a comment like that. Can’t promise it will always be that way but I don’t tend to cuss a whole lot in my personal life. Glad you like it.
When I was 18 I had a Norton 650 cant even remember the year now. It had a magneto for fire, no key for turnon/turnoff, all it had was a fork lock. If it got wet like riding in the rain it would shut off. It ran really well on nice days. Lighting sucked on it, I could not keep the headlight from vibrating the bulb to pieces. Even with all that, I would love to have another one, I am sure they have worked out all those bugs by now, LOL. I like that V4, with out the chrome, carbon fiber would look great. Hope the new company does well, then send them over to the US.
We seen it with Matchless, Laverda, Harley Davidson, Indian, and all big names in the motorcycle and automotive industrie. Bottom line is always somebody wants to fill his pockets big time using a big brand name. They don't care about their products, just their bank accounts.
TVS nearly got nothing for their money - Only the name ! - ( no office, no production-line and no parts ) - the 961-engine was sold to Jinjang in China and the 650-engine was from the beginning planned to be produced at Zongshen in China ! - Mr. John Russell ( new GB-boss ) has to organise a new plant in GB and bring Norton up again from nearly nothing !
Gunther, how are you man. Respectfully though that's like saying Polaris got nothing for the Indian name. In addition to the name TVS retains headquarters but states they will move it from their current location but keep it in the area. There are bikes already on order from the old regime that need to be delivered but I'd say for 16M, considering the giant that TVS is, this was chump change. What do you think? Can they make a go of it?
Nothing? Those 961's were rife with problems anyway. Ask anyone who owns one. What this company needed was someone who knows how to make motorcycles (box ticked) and pockets deep enough for parts, dealer network and marketing.
Buddy, what is insane here? Buying another British company by Indian company? You should be happy that someone is willing to bring back the company's lost glory and I am wondering shouldn't everyone be thankful to TVS motor? Jaguar Land rover, Corus and Tetley bought by Tatas. Triumph motor cycle was behind Bajaj group.
Tvs is one of the most ethical company in india. Despite slowly launching upmarket models they have still stuck in the low end categories where their clientele are small business owners who use their cheap mopeds for carrying goods. They also have the cheapest ungeared scooter for women which goes a long way for women empowerment
Don't you think that TVS market in the world is expanding very fastly as far as I know TVS MOTORCYCLE company was started in 2006 and within 2020 how can some company like TVS can evolve very fast. Yeah I am having a firm belief that in coming future TVS will acquire the entire market at worldwide level. Hope for the best.TVS provide the best quality bikes at a very affordable prices that's the key reason for the success I guess what do you have to say on this?
Norton is not a last British motor company, Triumph motor still with the British. According TVS management, they are going to bring more new model Norton bikes soon.
Brilliant strategic move by Indian to have a large footprint in foreign markets making them stronger overall. I think Bernie Madeoff is gonna be Harley’s new CEO lmao. Oh the irony. #loveallbrands
@@DirtyDeez It's not surprising at all. Many of the major British Auto companies are in the hands of Chinese or Indian companies and they have turned them around pretty well with both sales and revenue at record high. Take the case of Jaguar Land Rover owned by TATA Motors or Royal Enfield by Eicher Motors, both Indian ones. Now, BSA as well is owned by Mahindra Group, yet another Indian company. Either the Brits suck at doing business (which Indians have a first hand experience) or it's not their time anymore.
Rob Frye I know they’ve been limping along but look at Indian who got bought by Polaris. It was a turd and now turd with sugar. Just kidding! They’re making a strong brand of it and I suspect TVS will also. Part of the global way of doing things.
Dirty Deez must be a Johnny Cash fan as much as myself 💯👍, Norton back in the 60s and 70s made some pretty damn nice Bikes back in the day, pretty wild that Norton is still going, you ride safe and stay healthy to Deez, enjoyed brother 💯✌️😎
We can't ride here in the UK atm due to lockdown! Maybe a rehearsal of the future? Anyway,hope this works out for the Norton name? All the best British company brands seem to be foreign owned!
Every premium company is short lived... Premium in sense like ferrari, lambo...they sure make speed cars and bikes but their turnover is no way near brands like toyota, ford, mahindra, vw etc, and they get sold to these companies in some years... Ferrari is owned by fiat, lambo is owned by vw, pinifarina is owned by mahindra, audi owned by vw,..jaguar land rover owned by tata... Royan enfield by eicher motors of chennai...ktm partly by bajaj, and now norton by TVS
The situation gives that brand another last crack of the whip look at the new Enfield twins also BSA is in Indian ownership I'm planning to wait it out before I trade in my Tiger and see what new bikes come on to the market rule nothing out let's wait and see what happens.
Many times a great brand will last on the name alone. Combine that with the existing omg know how and advancing technology- it’s going to be interesting to see the revival.
Norton which still has models under production and are non-Indian market focussed will stick to its premiumness for now (just wish that prices become more inviting for others to be introduced to the Norton brand). The Norton brand will still be at a far distance for the Indian motorcylista. Perhaps TVS will use Norton platforms and technology to build their own Motorcycles at a far more affordable prices and keep the Norton brand premium. As for BSA, I feel that Mahindra will launch something which will target to sell 50,000-100,000 a year ( RE 650twins sold 20, 000 in the Indian market and 19,000 all over the world last year) in the Indian and other similar markets, which is still peanuts to the 16 million bikes sold in India last year. So I guess we can expect something around 500-600cc parallel twin to counter RE at prices which the Indian market can still digest and buy 25,000 bikes a year. But yes, I can be totally wrong again.
If they asked Me --- If they asked, "What should we do Mark?" I would without the slightest hesitation tell them to give their stylists a month vacation, and most of their engineers, and just make the 1974 850 Commando only with the brake on the left and the shift on the right. Modern tires, but keep the spokes, dual front disk brakes, rear disk. Maybe - may be make it not leak oil - but really, leaveitAlone!!! Like the Enfield, maybe fuel injection, but the Amals worked for me back in the day. And then sell it through Enfield dealers, for the lowest price possible. It Is The Ultimate Retro Kickass Kickstart Glorydays Break Your Heart Love Joy Love Love Hardon Girl Magnet. And then run the same adds.
I don’t think it’s an underestimation, India holds a lot of talent. As a side note I think the country is fascinating, on my list of dream rides. I think it’s more of a surprise that any foreign company could scoop up such an iconic brand.
Well said all those names are national treasures and I would be very excited if a British company would buy in some British names wouldn't that be brilliant, I only mentioned the Brough superior because back in the day it was said to be the Rolls Royce of motorcycle however well done Triumph nice to see them back and successfully pushing forwards albeit with 3 factories Thailand, still stiff upper lip and shoulders back as they say.
Colin, I'm glad that some good has come out of all the turmoil that the Norton name has been through. In doing this research I found such a great history of its founding and glory days/ domination of the racing circuit. Triumph and other brands surviving is good for us all. I'd hate to see a big name shut down but these days the name and image can survive even in periods of production stops.
@@DirtyDeez lots off info about them selling the engine to another chinese company before they sold out. Here is just one of many www.visordown.com/news/general/norton-sold-961-engine-rights-just-going-under
TVS is collaborating with BMW to produce G310 lineup of motorcycles and exporter of motorcycles in various parts of the world. They export both BMW and TVS motorcycles. They will be have a good reputation... They will do what what TATA motors did with Jaguar and Land Rover....
@@DirtyDeez I don't know of the buyer but sounds like he's American. your comment didn't help me much. Anyway sounds like Norton is fucked which is a real shame for England.
Racing Plate, Brisbane is a pretty special place for me, I got to ride in Towanda and Dunedin over in New Zealand. Check out this playlist of all those videos. Only 2 motorcycle related ones here but I'm pretty proud of this collection. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gmGcXvsnYOQ.html
Woah there! It's Brough, pronounced Bruff not bro, Superior and they went out of business before WW2. Hardly one of the remaining British motorcycle manufacturers.
2018 and 2019 in Bangladesh over 6000 death by bike accident. Most of them due to the bad braking system of TVs Apaches RTR 150 segment bikes. Norton doomed.
All that's left of Norton now is the name. Still a great name which should be kept alive. It might now be in better financial hands with TVS, than it ever was with typical British management and British unions. The British, of which I'm one, had the world at its feet, and pissed it all away...
Hey Martoon maybe it’s a natural redistribution of resources and I’m all for the best operator taking the reigns but hate to see it happen when it could have been avoided with more care and caution. Interesting tale.
There’s a line between profit and greed that the consumer sees very clearly. TVS seems to be ready to take the brand into the future without alienating its base. It will be great to watch.
It's sad. I hope that guy goes to jail for a long time. Another one bites the dust to Asia. Triumph is the only major player left in Britain. Hope they stick around. I wanted to buy a Norton Commando. I hope they do not succumb to the low CC only crap.
Hey Daniel. It seems like low CC is the way a lot of manufacturers are going. I have a theory on that. Part of it is the lower production cost and part of it is people have lost their balls.
Tvs is a very credible business company don’t be so disappointed about Indian company buying British company dear look how good Range Rover is doing ,Indian companies are too big to your imagination,so better respect
Indian First, thanks for the comment. Just want to be clear, it’s not about it being an Indian company, some of the best and biggest builders are in India. It would have been the same video had an American company bought it. The surprise is when such an iconic company is bought from outside their country. I have no doubt TVS will bring back Norton’s success and profile.
Nick Spacey yep I know , it’s majority of automotive industry is not healthy,Range Rover still got nice models very aspiring ones but as u said it’s not doing good
