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Not Phil Collins' Fault: The Story of Led Zeppelin 's 1985 Live Aid Reunion 

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It wasn't Phil Collins fault, Led Zeppelin's infamous moment of the 80s was more than that. Saturday,July 13th 1985 had the world watching Jones, Page and Plant join forces on stage with Phil Collins, Tony Thompson and Paul Martinez. History was made on stage but it remains a controversial show with many critics and a subsequent blaming game about what went wrong. This is the story of the year 1985 in the lives of Led Zeppelin's surviving members and how they ended up at JFK stadium on that hot Saturday evening. We will revisit the events, sights and sounds of Zeppelin's first reunion past 1980. Hint: it wasn't Phil Collins fault entirely. #ledzeppelin #jimmypage #robertplant #johnpauljones #johnbonham #documentary #philcollins #liveaid #80smusic #80s
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@mattgiovannucci3230
@mattgiovannucci3230 Год назад
OMG. What an intense episode. We’ll done Jose. Edge of my seat the whole time. Totally glued to my seat. So good! ❤
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much Matt, research and editing on this one was tricky and the final result wanted to tell the story with detail. 1985 was a great year for music, not as creative as let's say 1983, but the marriage of MTV, media and artists was in a good place. Later on things got a bit bloated i would say. Happy New Year Matt! Hope you like Episode 11 next week!
@RogerSmith-us6dk
@RogerSmith-us6dk Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Be good if you did more general interest history stories like this rather then the more obscure Ex-yes Zeppelin 81 etc, just a thought
@ronleavens6060
@ronleavens6060 3 месяца назад
​😊
@larrystroh233
@larrystroh233 Год назад
Jimmy Page once said "John Paul Jones is the real musical genius of Led Zeppelin " I agree. He did all the arrangements. His versatility is a plus.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Jonesy was the secret weapon. His contributions need to be remembered! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@gregking2571
@gregking2571 Год назад
No question about that. Zeppelin really had no weak links whatsoever. Jones' musical abilities were imperative to their incredible body of work.
@lyndoncmp5751
@lyndoncmp5751 Год назад
John Paul did the work of two different Beatles with just the one name 😂
@coolnamebro
@coolnamebro Год назад
Little known fact: John Paul Jones did the string arrangements for REM's Automatic For The People album. Try to imagine "Everybody Hurts" without those yearning, soaring strings.
@MrChopsticktech
@MrChopsticktech Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Plus as far as I know he never played sloppy, drunk or stoned live.
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
I was there, and I can say without question, those in attendance felt a tremendous sense of joy, gratitude, and privilege to hear Zep reunite for the first time. People can crap all over the performance if they chose...my memory of the day was great satisfaction for the moment.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I felt joy and gratitud watching this for my research. Coming off the 1978-1980 days in Zeppelin history, this show MEANS A LOT indeed!
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
It doesn't matter. 100,000+ screaming fans had the time of their lives, and if you weren't there, you missed out.
@AlexAlexon3897
@AlexAlexon3897 Год назад
I made a tape of the Zep set, and it sounds like a typical last-minute live performance. Why did anyone expect it to sound like New York '73?😁
@HardRockMaster7577
@HardRockMaster7577 Год назад
Yes, it's very different when you're "in the room" vs listening to boots, or watching film...
@rickrecco143
@rickrecco143 Год назад
I was there too. I felt the same way.
@ernesteison7979
@ernesteison7979 Год назад
I actually was there. 9 rows back. It was amazing. The crowd was mesmerized by the chance to see Zep. Nothing else matters. No one at the show was criticizing Zeppelin's performance that day. The only disappointment was that they didn't play longer.
@mikeserra9462
@mikeserra9462 Год назад
I am sure that's how most people viewed it. I was 18 years old and listened to it live on the radio. I didn't care how they sounded....All I knew is that it was LED ZEPPELIN and that was good enough for me.
@pewsterbaby
@pewsterbaby Год назад
Exactly. I was at the Atlantic Records Zeppelin reunion at Madison Square Garden 3 years after this. It didn't matter one bit how they played. The Garden went crazy because at 1:30 in the morning, Zeppelin went onstage and played 'till a little after 2. We were seeing Zeppelin with Bonham Jr and it didn't matter ONE BIT how well or poorly they played. We were with Led Zeppelin and they were there with us. It was like The Rapture.
@youtoo2233
@youtoo2233 Год назад
@@pewsterbaby wasn't fully Zeppelin, 3/4 Zeppelin
@paulweston285
@paulweston285 Год назад
So in other words you were wasted too
@ernesteison7979
@ernesteison7979 Год назад
@@paulweston285 No, not in any words. That's why I clearly remember everything, factually.
@aeneas237
@aeneas237 Год назад
Jonesy has a really great dry sense of humor. I’d love a series of interviews from him where he just talks about music that he likes and gets into the mechanics of it
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
That would be fascinating. JPJ is a very wise man!
@jamesedgewood4643
@jamesedgewood4643 Год назад
Robert Plant really was like something out of Spinal Tap in the 80's. Imagine seeing Robert Plant live on tour and him singing Jerry Lee Lewis numbers.....You'd think you'd entered a weird parallel universe or something....
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Interesting take yes! He does come off a bit Spinal Tap, imagine had he been in the movie! Nigel Tufnel and Plant doing 50s numbers haha.
@Ontariosound
@Ontariosound Год назад
Plant’s first solo tour had a stop in Toronto. He avoided Zep material and the furious fans flipped over a bus in frustration on their way out of the stadium grounds.
@ronaldmccloskey8850
@ronaldmccloskey8850 Год назад
Can’t wait for this one. I was at Live Aid in Philadelphia. The crowd of 100,000 were there to see the Led Zeppelin reunion. It didn’t matter if they were under rehearsed. Everyone was happy to see them together performing Led Zeppelin songs. This was their first show in the USA in 8 years. In those 8 years there was a lot of heartbreak for this band. This was a joyous occasion.
@w.geoffreyspaulding6588
@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 Год назад
Joyous for fans maybe…not for Zep. Listened to interviews of both Page and Plant and they were mortified and embarrassed.
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
Agree with you totally, Ronald. I was there too (hot as hell!), and I will never forget it. Despite the band's opinions about the show, the fans who were there were elated at the moment, and loved it, warts and all.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Ronald that's awesome you were there, from my research i got one thing very clear off the bat, it was a HOT day right? Man was that venue crowded. Hope you dig the episode, its a very special part of the 80s series!
@ronaldmccloskey8850
@ronaldmccloskey8850 Год назад
It was extremely hot. It was a clear sunny day with no clouds! The fire department came in and were hosing down the crowd. I was 14 and it truly was one the the best days of my life.
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
@@ronaldmccloskey8850 I was 21, and it was amazing. It was well into the 90's in temperature in the mid-morning, well over 100 that day, no clouds. I remember guys going to use the restroom, and it was crowded, like a herd of cattle. Inside the men's room, there were guys at the sinks, filling buckets with water, and dumping them on the heads of people in the rest rooms, to keep them from passing out from the heat.
@zoso73
@zoso73 Год назад
This is a masterwork of research. You have given audiences that watched the Page-Plant-Jones set a new perspective of what happened. I have to add that Live-Aid, especially the "Led Zeppelin Reunion," changed my life. The warts in the performance didn't matter. I was hooked from that day on to Zeppelin and rock music.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed my research, a project and labor of love for All Zepp Fans! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree.
@mphrdldn
@mphrdldn 2 месяца назад
LZ formed during my freshman year of highschool but I became a fan watching their performance at Live Aid. I read Hammer of the Gods published before Live Aid
@smedleybutler5555
@smedleybutler5555 Год назад
I was 16 when Led Zep took the stage at Live Aid and I loved every second it, I thought it was the highlight of the day and still do. The heck with the critics! Live Rock and Roll doesn't need to be perfect it just needs to be loud and raise you out of your seat and make you scream. Mission accomplished!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Cool! Fair Enought SB! Thank you very much for watching, Episode 11 is up, and Episode 12 will be released on Saturday January 21st.
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@SongSwan
@SongSwan Год назад
Love the way Page rolls his eyes when Plant says I have my own career....yeah well if your first career had not happened there would not have been a second.
@dylanwatson1287
@dylanwatson1287 Год назад
I think in 85 was when Plant's boastful and self centered ego and attitude really started to take place which has lasted up to this very day.
@crungefactory
@crungefactory Год назад
​@@dylanwatson1287 nah, he's mellowed out considerably in the last decade or so
@keitha.563
@keitha.563 Год назад
Plant can be a jerk no one can change my mind. He acts as if he didn't have problems during the Zep years . He can't blame just Page. Plant never took care of his voice and yes Bonham was the only one at his son's funeral which is TERRIBLE but JPJ was the main cog at getting him back to Zep in 78 for rehearsals for Ittod . Jimmy Page was the Master of Zep his wings totally clipped off in 78 by both Plant and JpJ.
@thetruthhurts6652
@thetruthhurts6652 Год назад
Exactly
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Absolutely, Page gave him the "wish Bonham was here to punch you in the face like he did back in Japan 1972 fighting over borrowed petrol money"
@jimdep6542
@jimdep6542 Год назад
Excellent video. Who's idea was it that Led Zep needed two drummers ? Collins is no Bonham, but he could have pulled off well enough for a 20 minute set. Having two drummers playing unrehearsed is a recipe for a trainwreck.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Absolutely, 2 drummers , no rehearsal with a full band it's...wing it to say the least hehe. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 12 coming up this Saturday January 21st!
@dcbdiscerns7617
@dcbdiscerns7617 10 месяцев назад
I had no idea there was another drummer playing during this infamous set.. A bizarre and ultimately disastrous decision indeed. Amazing work throughout this series, sir. ❤
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 9 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
@fistsofshtank
@fistsofshtank 3 месяца назад
Great video! I was at Live Aid in Philly...what a day/night. Hot as shit...they would once in a while spray a little firehose shower. We were pretty far up front...I can see my friends and I a few times in the clips that are available on RU-vid. Anyway, Zep sounded soooo bad to us in the crowd. Aside from the inconsistent drums, it simply sounded bad...could barely tell what song they were playing. But regardless, we went crazy...we got to see a little bit of history that day and treasure the memory.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 3 месяца назад
I bet it was hot as hell, how on Earth did you guys manage not to get dehydrated hahah. Every time i watch videos from that concert it's my first thought. Thank you for watching!
@LOGGYLOGG
@LOGGYLOGG Год назад
When page rolls his eyes at plants “I have my own career” comment. 😂😂
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Summarizes the entire Post Zeppelin relationship TO DATE. Plant's ego...is....strange.
@brycemagloo9050
@brycemagloo9050 Год назад
Yeah, because Plant had, and still has, a successful solo career, unlike washed-up, has-been, Jimmy Page who hasn't done anything worthy of note for over 40 years. All Jimmy Page can do is keep regurgitating the same old, played-out, tedious Dead Zeppelin material. LOL !!!!!!
@merrymonarch
@merrymonarch Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I think he has always wanted to push forward and do new things. Others maybe want to rehash old glories
@lindamoore6163
@lindamoore6163 Год назад
They made up for this debacle with the 2007 O2 concert Celebration Day. That concert they were AMAZING!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Absolutely Linda, the 2007 show was very special. From start to finish, the right mindset and proper rehearsal time. I will do a video on it at some point :) Thanks for tuning in Linda, if you haven't please subscribe as it helps my channel big time!
@lindamoore6163
@lindamoore6163 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-StoriesI just subscribed thanks for reminding me.
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie Год назад
I never thought much of 07. Awesome version of Kashmir, some other cool bits and pieces like For Your Life. But it wasn’t Led Zeppelin. It was a tribute band. What’s the point?
@lindamoore6163
@lindamoore6163 Год назад
@@Twotontessie Tribute band? LMAO ! HA! Robert Plant, Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones & Jason Bonham…No it’s not 💯 Zeppelin but it’s DEFINITELY not 4 random people imitating Zeppelin or as you put it a tribute band. HA!
@davidharding200
@davidharding200 Год назад
I didn’t think Jimmy was amazing at the O2. One of the worst guitar tones I’ve ever heard and some ordinary playing as well.
@Studio-62
@Studio-62 Год назад
In Collin’s autobiography he explains that Plant and him were friends, and Plant had invited him to be the drummer for a Live Aid thing with him and Page. He had agreed and that was supposed to be that. But between then and the show it became a Zeppelin reunion and they had hired a drummer already and rehearsed for a week. When Plant eventually told him, Collins wanted to pull out, but Plant said they could do it with two drummers. Before the show Collins told Thompson they should watch each other and not overplay. But Thompson was not interested, seeing this (rightly) as a huge opportunity for him. So it was kind of Plant’s fault if we are to believe Collins.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thompson overplayed and Collins overaccepted. Plant overpromised and underperformed :)
@Artist1974CH
@Artist1974CH Год назад
You know who could have really played drums at LiveAid? The young Jason Bonham!
@blueodum
@blueodum Год назад
I was a teenager in 1985. It's hard to convey how big an event Live Aid was. So many of the biggest names in music, all-day concerts from two continents, watched live by the world. Nothing like that has been undertaken since.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
That is fascinating right? No other event like this has been done except Live 8 in 2005! Thank you for watching!
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 10 месяцев назад
As Robert Plant said “Quite a day eh? And a very good day too”. Planty always had the right words.
@isuriadireja91
@isuriadireja91 9 месяцев назад
the fact that many rock musicians have been dismissing and hating on Phil Collins before and after this event was just sad. The guy was inarguably a versatile, musically generous and collaborative and...aside from MJ and Prince and Madonna, he pratically RULED the 80s music.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely, Phil Collins' range as a musician was incredible. People are funny, musicians tend to praise the "cult status" dudes that never get the money they deserve on their chops. And then, the ones who do, are the bad guys. I think religion and dogma have some of the blame you know? Thank you very much for watching! Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
@tonypauline225
@tonypauline225 10 месяцев назад
Led Zeppelin is in my DNA. I was lucky enough to see them opening night at Madison Square Garden, 6/7/77. I could not wait for the 1980 tour until Bonham died- on my 17th birthday- September 25. I was desperate to see Zeppelin again and I was fortunate enough to be in JFK Stadium that day for Live Aid. What a day!!! Counting down the time until the Zeppelin reunion. This was before the internet, etc, so we had no idea exactly when they were going to be on stage. When Collins announced Plant, Page, Jones, etc i jumped up and down on the fiberglass bench i had been sitting on since 8AM that morning i was so excited- until i heard a "CRACK" below my feet!! I spent so much energy when they were on stage after it was over i went back into walkway area with a jug of water and just sat on the floor for about 40 minutes, occasionally peaking my head out to see what was happening on stage. Live Aid was over for me. Yeh- the performance was not so great looking back afterwards but the anticipation in the days leading up and the absolute explosion of joy when they took the stage was unparalleled
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 10 месяцев назад
I can feel the excitement in your words, thank you for sharing your recollection of events. Can't imagine how you felt to actually WATCH them on stage, the performance was a historic moment that deserves much appreciation. Joy, that's what it was!
@aussieboy77
@aussieboy77 6 дней назад
Excellent analysis. I clicked on this and couldn't stop watching until the end.
@DougZbikowski
@DougZbikowski Год назад
Fun fact: When Jimmy Page played with the Beach Boys in Washington DC, they had a stand-in drummer. That drummer? JOHN STAMOS.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
OMG it was John? i saw the picture but thought they just met backstage, thank you for shedding light on this mystery, you solved it for me!! Thank you for tuning in Doug! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@ark1772
@ark1772 Год назад
As a 13 year old Led Zeppelin fanatic I watched this on tv and I thought it was great I think I was going as crazy in my tv room as everyone was at JFK! I was at the show on the 23rd in New Jersey when Jimmy Page came out as a special guest. The place went nuts no Zeppelin songs but they were wearing the same outfits they had on at Live Aid. Robert Plant did start playing Zeppelin songs during his solo shows until 1988. I was there again in NJ and it was incredible. The first song he played was “ In The Evening” and the crowd was singing so loud you could barley hear him.
@greengrass1072
@greengrass1072 Год назад
That gave me the chills just hearing that story. I love In the Evening and I’m Gonna Crawl from In through the out door.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Wow you were at the NJ show on the 23! SO LUCKY MAN! I bet the deafning roar when Jimmy came to the stage was incredible. Funny how Robert teased you guys with requests, a prankster! Thank you for sharing this!! Thank you for tuning in Vinny! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@drivesideways6550
@drivesideways6550 8 месяцев назад
I was there in the Audience on the grass in front of the stage, 17 years old with my younger brother 14 and my buddy 17. We weren't old enough to have seen them as Led Zeppelin. I would have seen them if they toured in 1980-81 I had just started going to concerts at that time. They were the reason I bought tickets from a scalper at $80 a piece for general admission. I didn't really care who else was going to be there at the time. Looking back, just about everybody who was anybody was there that day, they even showed some of the Wembley performances on a big diamond board screen. What a show, it lasted so long and we left from South New Jersey, in the early morning hours, ran out of gas in the pine barrens, pitch black, totally unprepared, no cell phone's, had to knock on someone's door in the middle of nowhere at night and got a ride back to my dad's house where we came back with a gas can and we were off again! It was incredibly hot on the lawn and they were hosing us down with fire hoses. When the show was over, we were exhausted. We got back to my buddie's car and my brother and friend instantly fell asleep. I was going to drive home, even though I didn't have a driver's license yet. I caught myself falling asleep on the highway late at night and just pulled into a parking lot somewhere and we all woke up the next morning, and drove back home.
@brucethompson534
@brucethompson534 Год назад
Fantastic episode it brings back so many memories. I was in my junior year in high school at Lake Braddock in Burke, Va. in 1985. Led Zeppelin was my everything. My friends and I were at a lot of the shows in this video. We were front row for the Firm. The best place to get concert tix was a Ticket Master in Crystal City and we camped out. Seeing Jimmie Page in a green laser pyramid with his bow playing Dazed and Confused was epic! That same summer the Beach Boys played on the Mall in DC. John Stamos was still on General Hospital and loved the BB and he was on a 2nd drum kit. Jimmie Page was an odd addition but the crowd went wild. I dropped a tab of acid early in the day and lost my group and wandered the tents on the mall with small acts performing. The first one had to old black bluesmen from Philadelphia. I would swear they were the same to old guys from opening of Dave Chapel’s show years later. Live Aid was one of the greatest memories I have. Madonna had her old nudes in Penthouse and was fully clothed in July heat and joked we had seen enough of her that week 🤣 Black Sabbath reunited with Ozzy, Mick Jagger and Tina Turner w/ Hall & Oates singing back up. I started working my way onto the floor when Thompson Twins were performing and slowly worked my way through the crowd. Some were a little perturbed by me cutting in front of them and when the bigger/scarier of them would say something I told them my girlfriend was upfront and I would spark a bowl and share and continue on. By the time Zeppelin came out I was 20 feet from center stage. Amazing performance. The crowd was on fire! Your documentation of the show was spot on! Your recollection of past performances each band member tapped into jived with my memories of that show. And as someone who was there The drumming was awesome. To be in the presence of those three legends after the abrupt end of the maestro John Bonham was pure joy. We also had 15th row for Robert Plant tour July 31st at the Capital Center. Amazing year and you did it justice. I am smiling ear to ear and had chills remembering that great year. An additional concert that year was Tina Turner “What’s Love Got to do With It?” we were two rows off the floor touching the stage, awesome!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey Bruce! Thank YOU so much for watching this very special episode. I was delighted to read your recollections, you really lived this magical decade, a fantastic musical explosion. Your words help me connect with the events so much, i appreciate you taking the time to share. Stay tuned for more videos coming up :)
@TheFunkybert
@TheFunkybert Год назад
This is one of the oddest and I might say coolest independent music history film documentaries I’ve ever seen. Great work 🙌
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Wow, thank you! Hope the ODD is a good thing hehe. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 12 coming up this Saturday January 21st!
@dayuhanspace
@dayuhanspace Год назад
Phil Collins is the man who can connect with everyone!
@TimmyTickle
@TimmyTickle Год назад
The Kevin Bacon of music
@rogerrambo4172
@rogerrambo4172 Год назад
He connected with Jeffrey Epstein especially
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
A great drummer and musician Vincent!
@WillieWeed
@WillieWeed Год назад
One of the greatest years of my life. Graduated HS and started college back when a day was like a month now. Nobody ever told me each one goes by faster. Or in your 50s everyone you love will disappear so quick until your alone. Beats the alternative, but everything does. Does it not? Great inside story of a very memorable time.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Cheers to the 80s you lived and enjoyed. I wish i lived thru them. Time flies but music remains. Thank you for tuning in Willie! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@WillieWeed
@WillieWeed Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Thanks. Really great job on this story. I'll have my bell on and looking for that video Saturday. Funny you say you wish you'd lived through the 80s. I was the same with the late 60s early 70s. Grew up feeling like I'd just missed the party.
@robertthompson6302
@robertthompson6302 Год назад
I am the absolute biggest fan of Jimmy Page. He seems very together for the last 20 years. I admire him and am very impressed he got his life together post 80’s. But there was a phase there, where I was very worried about him. And, from all my experience with interviews and reflections he’s had, have I ever heard him admit that he was not handling his presentation well during the 80s and till mid 90s. I’m not going to assume what was going on with him, lord knows life happens and you just have to ride the wave out sometimes… But Jimmy Page likes to focus on the technical and business oriented reasons performance didn’t work along the way. He is a very private person and won’t come out and say what was going on with him… Who knows really? We can speculate it was substances, but It might have been health issues… I’m not going to act like I know, because life gets messy. I am just very happy he is well now. I disagree with Phil Collins ‘bad Karma’ Zep talk. Being a musician, I can tell you from my own experience, some bands are very ‘sheet music’, tightly rehearsed machines that you can turn on and off. These tight bands always sound tight and are trustworthy etc. ; Very easy to control if all the parts are working. Zep was a wild animal! It was a bucking bronco you had to either ride out or fall off. Zep played bad a million times, but they also played great a million times. It was the nature of the beast. Zep and the Beatles are probably the two biggest bands and ironically both bands, when in tact became something much greater than their individual parts. The proof is in all the solo recording post break ups. It’s a kind of magic you only find once in a lifetime. It’s really that simple. Once you try to re-create it, that’s where the trouble begins.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you tuning in Robert. Like you, i am a fan of Jimmy and i don't want to get into the substance abuse speculation. I believe he fell to severe depression, after all addiction feeds from depression and trauma. To say he had it rough in 1980 is an understatement. Great stuff you are a musician so we can agree that Zepp is HARD to play as a Band. You are 100% correct. Whenever i get to jam with friends that know of my 15+ years playing Zepp they always, always try to wing it, and i just sit there watching, telling them "oh sure, let's do In My Time Of Dying"....Zepp's material has a lot of CHEMISTRY to it and it's no wonder it's the stuff of nightmares for your average cover band doing 70s playlists. I am also happy Jimmy got out of that personal hell of the 80s. Episode 11 premieres next week!
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
Jimmy page was heavy into heroin and strung out. This was an embarrassment nothing jimmy page has done in 50 years has been memorable. His low point ? Working with p Diddy on Godzilla. If page was measured by heroin intake then he is a legend. Jimmy page hasn’t done anything good since mid 70s. Case closed
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 Год назад
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 Yes, he was "strung out", if you insist on using that useless term. His heroin addiction had taken a hold. However, he did make some good music - his Deathwish soundtrack was very good, as was his album with Roy Harper, Whatever Happened To Jugula. Had the best tracks from both albums by The Firm simply been issued as one single album it would have been so much better. His album with Coverdale was excellent. His low point was that tour and live album with these D-listers The Black Crowes - probably one of the worst bands I ever heard with easily the worst singer, bar none, ever. Total dog shit.
@surfshack2
@surfshack2 Год назад
Great job on this I actually felt like i was back in 1985. I was 18 years old then and me and a few buddies were at a bbq party and we watched Live Aid that day from the afternoon on while drinking. I actually lived only an hour away from Philadelphia. I was a pretty big Zeppelin fan and was very familiar with TSRTS soundtrack and had watched TSRTS on VHS tape the year before in 1984 which i think was the year it came out on VHS because we rented it a few times from the local video store at high school parties. I thought TSRTS was the greatest live album i ever heard and was blown away by the movie. So we waited intently with great anticipation for the Zeppelin reunion on TV while drinking at the party. When they finally came on at around 8pm it was an incredible moment. However, When they started playing i remember actually feeling let down and the reason was because i was kind of expecting them to play as good or near as good as TSRTS but to me it seemed as if Jimmy was very rusty, it looked like he was trying to play like 1973 but was just out of practice. Plant's voice was hoarse. JPJ still looked cool like he always does. I didn't really notice any flaws in the drumming, I didn't really critique the drumming, the only thing i knew was that it wasn't Bonham and so the drums to me were no where near what they would've been with Bonzo so i wasn't too critical of Collins and Thompson. I remember a guy at the party who was older than me was loving every minute of the performance. I told him i didn't think it was all that good and i remember him telling me that who cares if they're not as good as they were before, he said what you are watching is a historical moment , it's an incredible thing that we're getting to see this so enjoy it. Looking back now that time in 1985 and all the great music and fun and enjoyment i had growing up and discovering Led Zeppelin was an incredible time in my life. It was an amazing time and Led Zeppelin were the greatest band i had ever heard. Not only great but they were mysterious and powerful. A source of inspiration from which i grew to be a better person in everything in life. I knew it even then. Thank you for sharing this. It's so very cool. 👍
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for sharing your detailed recollections. It makes this more special, as i am always excited to read testimonials first hand! I believe Jimmy was yeah, going for 1973 while battling the 80s which were hard on him until 1986, slowly getting out of there!
@surfshack2
@surfshack2 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Oh yeah you're welcome, thank you for listening but yeah those times in my youth with Zeppelin and everything was a magical and spiritual time for me , I really developed a deep appreciation for music and Zeppelin were the Gods.
@mikeyii
@mikeyii Год назад
Probably the best recounting and analysis of this performance I’ve ever seen or read. Kudos!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much sir! I appreciate it! This was a tough episode to make gathering the data and such. I'm glad you enjoyed it :) Stay tuned for Episode 11 next week!
@andrewmiller4573
@andrewmiller4573 Год назад
It TRULY WAS IMPRESSIVE, what Phil Collins did in that 24 hour period!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Absolutely, that is HARD WORK at its finest, i mean did the man really have a day off after Peter Gabriel left Genesis? No hehe. Stay tuned for Episode 14 on 1988 Part 2 coming up this Saturday February 4th!
@amandabooth-he9gu
@amandabooth-he9gu Год назад
Love phil collins is a legend and hardest working musicians to walk the face of the earth.
@aidanlynn
@aidanlynn Год назад
Just to add to what you said about Phil being the hardest worker of the 80s. While I'm sure he probably slept a little bit on the plane, being up for about 24+ hours and travelling to play at 2 shows on either side of the world on the same day took serious bottle. Instead of blaming him for the set, people should instead remember he was the only artist that day who played at both shows.
@merrymonarch
@merrymonarch Год назад
He did very well. He was humble about the fact he should have backed out. Two drummers needs a lot of rehearsal!
@scottrobinson9752
@scottrobinson9752 Год назад
It was unnecessary and only happened to put a spotlight on himself (Phil). His involvement was counter productive. Two drummers on those songs was a cacophony. Neither drummer knew the songs at all. Jason Bonham would have been better. Maybe Cozy Powell, Simon Phillips, Simon Kirke, Carmine Appice, etc....any of those guys would have been better. Phil's gimic made it impossible for a proper rehearsal. And it was all just rushed.
@Formula-602
@Formula-602 Год назад
@@scottrobinson9752 right…2 drummers..who didn’t know the song…..with lots of changes….TRAINWRECK….
@Formula-602
@Formula-602 Год назад
Plus..Plants vocals were already declining….didn’t help!
@disf5178
@disf5178 Год назад
@@scottrobinson9752 so...who pushed for Collins/double drummers?
@waitaminute7257
@waitaminute7257 Год назад
When they came on I called and pledged my $10 or $15 donation. Looking back the set may have left something to be desired but at that moment absolutely nobody cared. Just seeing them together for the first time since Bonham's death was overwhelming for us millions of Zep fans. It was a HUGE HUGE deal and the tightness of the band mattered little.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Yes, the energy was there indeed, a truly magical moment in time! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday January 14th!
@CliffMcAulay
@CliffMcAulay Год назад
This is wonderful in depth look at the situation around that time. Thank you for all the work you have done here. Such an enjoyable watch Mr JCM. Consider yourself subscribed!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much for watching Cliff, welcome to the channel, so cool to have you on the community. Hope you enjoy the content here!
@MB-zk2nj
@MB-zk2nj 4 месяца назад
Thanks for this video! The thing that so interesting is that if you just watched Plant, you wouldn’t even realize it wasn’t a great set. He really knows the power of television.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 4 месяца назад
He definitely had the right practice at the time with two great solo tours behind him where Page couldn't match that with The Firm.
@jaykelley103
@jaykelley103 Год назад
What a top shelf video, mate. Happily subscribed
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey Hey Hey, welcome aboard Jay, glad to hear this! Thank you for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 13 Premieres Saturday January 28th,
@mp-kq3vc
@mp-kq3vc Год назад
My favorite part of Zep at Live Aid was Mark Goodman from MTV talking over the Rock and Roll drum intro... "I'm not going to give away the *whole* set, but that's Rock and Roll and THEY'RE DOING STAIRWAY!!!"
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
A classic line indeed, the excitement in that stadium was OVER THE TOP top top top top topppppppp!
@mp-kq3vc
@mp-kq3vc Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Lol '77. And Mark didn't technically give away the WHOLE set hahahah.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
@@mp-kq3vc thank God Mark was not a SPY for the CIA he would give away stuff Hahahhaha
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie Год назад
I couldn’t stand Goodman he sucked . Martha was the best!!
@HardRockMaster7577
@HardRockMaster7577 Год назад
@@Twotontessie Mark was a poser.
@kellieelliott5198
@kellieelliott5198 Год назад
You gave an excellent musical breakdown of what happened that day. It was no one’s fault. I’m going to give Tony Thompson the benefit of the doubt and say he was probably just over excited. Phil was and is a professional and he was there to support his friend. A really great video!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much Kellie, i am happy you enjoyed the trip, it was quite a journey gathering all the bits and pieces. When i was writing the script i was listening to a best of 1985 playlist just to get in the mood. Tony was over excited yes, the strange thing was that he played earlier with the Power Station, you'd think he warmed up by then. BTW, their set is shaky in parts, Thompson was Nervous.
@merrymonarch
@merrymonarch Год назад
You can see it on any stage all over the world. An under rehearsed band makes a few mistakes, they start second guessing what they do. They start filling in all the spaces to compensate to others' mistakes and it just falls apart. You either say everyone is to blame or no one. With Live Aid, to just blame Phil C is ridiculous
@TheIggypop1
@TheIggypop1 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories tony can hit those drums hard like john b
@halcyon289
@halcyon289 Год назад
@@TheIggypop1 With Bonham it was the way he tuned his kit , not necessarily hitting the drums hard.
@TheIggypop1
@TheIggypop1 Год назад
@@halcyon289 right and he never puts pillows in the tom he would let in roar like the room was shaking
@garydavenport3321
@garydavenport3321 Год назад
Once again, brilliantly done!!! Much thanks 🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
My pleasure Gary, Happy New Year man! Glad you enjoyed it! Stay Tuned for Ep. 11!
@luvbasses5487
@luvbasses5487 Год назад
Excellent analysis once again Jose. I enjoyed this one quite a lot. Like with any massive event, I know exactly where I was and what I was doing when this all unfolded. 1985 was my first big rock concert which was RP Shaken n Stirred tour, Worcester Centrum. I clearly remember the build-up to the Live Aid set. It was long but finally they took the stage…and I still feel the same way today about than I did that day: happy but bummed out a little. I suppose I’m no different than millions of others on that. Hey, at least they did it. Their music was so toxic and addictive that even they themselves couldn’t believe when it all hatched in 1968. The ensemble that was LZ was unique as a thumbprint and simply never to be replicated - not even by them. Just like you’ve said: the remaining members are in competition with none other than…themselves! That’s one tall order - perhaps the tallest ever. Thank you Jose for your efforts. I really enjoy them!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for sharing this well-thought comment, i appreciate it! As you mentioned, as least they did it, and we have it on film, for good or bad, it was a HISTORICAL moment. It has a mixed feeling happiness to it for sure. Its true, the LZ ensemble NEVER imagined how the band would grow, so massive, to a deadly extent as we saw unfortunately. As a composer, once you hit a good song you like, the competition against one self can get tiring. Now think Jones, Page and Plant....icons...phew! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday January 14th!
@killingmasheen
@killingmasheen 8 месяцев назад
I hope at least we can all agree Queen killed it at Live Aid 👑
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 8 месяцев назад
That is a universal truth! Agreed!
@tracyalyceholder6167
@tracyalyceholder6167 6 месяцев назад
I said the same thing! Exactly!
@terrencereardon6374
@terrencereardon6374 4 месяца назад
David Gilmour's Fender Strat died at Live Aid and switched to the candy apple red Strat that he would use in the post-Waters Pink Floyd era. Queen were eh, Judas Priest were the best band that day. Zeppelin played better than Sabbath who were drugged out except for Bill Ward.
@richardfinlayson1524
@richardfinlayson1524 Год назад
It's nice to hear Robert, talking about watching Jimmy's gig with the firm, he always seems like such a lovely bloke, good taste in records too
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I bet he wanted to take Paul Rodgers off the stage hehe. Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@domofswitch
@domofswitch 8 месяцев назад
Fabulous Presentation - Thanks !!! !!!
@LM-tl5bd
@LM-tl5bd Год назад
Thank you for posting your video. Really detailed and well worth watching.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you very much for tuning in! Episode 12 coming up next week!
@Briantichydrums
@Briantichydrums Год назад
Great episode! Watched right before I do a zep cover gig.. makes me excited to play and play better! Tony and Phil are both bad ass drummers! Sounded like Phil didn’t know he was going to play with Tony? Wow… interesting! Regardless; that a very heavy amount of pressure; playing drums at a “Zeppelin reunion” .. in front of a packed stadium … and broadcast around the world .. with basically no proper rehearsal! And …. You are filling in for John Bonham! Come on, these are factors that can easily get the best of anyone! Most have not clue what that pressure is like even if you are a top drummer or a top drummer who also happens to be a top songwriter/ singer solo artist! They all should have acquiesced to how much pressure was on them all and put a little more time into prep, rehearsal, schedule juggling and balancing etc.. but it’s 20 minutes compared the 1000’s of hours of amazing performances they all have given us ! 👍🏼
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
No rehearsal for a world broadcast IS INSANE indeed. That's like taking over a plan mid-air and "winging" it. You just don't. I agree more time into prep was the necessary step for this to have had a chance at all. Thank you for sharing your POV and i hope the Zepp Gig went great, saw the pics and the VISTALITE looked killer. Does any body remember LUDWIG!!! Happy New Year Brian!
@MrLou345
@MrLou345 Год назад
I had backstage passes to this show in Philly in 1985. There were a number of mistakes not just in Led Zeppelin's part of the show, but also a number of others as well. Believe it or not, that best SOUND of any artists were Duran Duran and the reason was very simple. They used a layer of backing tracks on top of playing live (no other band did that at the time at Live Aid) and they actually sounded like their studio recordings, which was flawless.
@greengrass1072
@greengrass1072 Год назад
If there’s one thing I remember from Live Aid, it’s Simon LeBon butchering A View to a Kill with the bad note heard ‘round the world. He was out of breath the entire performance. Andy Taylor rocked at it though. It was also when he decided he was leaving Duran and they were never the same again.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Wow i did not know this, quite a revelation! Thank you so much for sharing this, so gear wise, many things were sort of improvised or fell under the pressure of expectations? How did backing tracks worked back then, how did they managed with clicks and all? Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@MrLou345
@MrLou345 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I don't know what the actual equipment was, because I couldn't see that far back, however, it was very obvious that the drummer of Duran pressed a button and the clicks heard were very clear as well as all the synth sounds. Being a drummer myself, kind of blew me away because that's the first time I heard backing tracks used live. No other band that day had them and I was there for more then 15 hours at JFK stadium in Philly, front row as well as backstage.
@christiancazabonne
@christiancazabonne Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Rush used a lot of Keyboards backing tracks in the 80's, starting in their Grace Under Pressure Tour in 1984, I heard that time that it was sincronized with the drums. But it was a Keyboard Sequencer, not a recording...
@MrChopsticktech
@MrChopsticktech Год назад
@@christiancazabonne You beat me too it. I saw them live a few times and every time some synth was heard that Lee didn't play, I saw him trigger it. Music magazines at the time had interviews where he said it would be easier to add a keyboardist to play instead of triggering samples etc. but 'Then it wouldn't be Rush'. The the best was when we got seats right behind the barriers to Lifeson's left. Nothing between us except a short fence.
@glassslide
@glassslide Год назад
Great video---I was at the Brendan Byrne show where Page played with Plant---awesome show, Brian Setzer SMOKED during the Honeydrippers portion of the show, Anyway, the crazy thing was me and my buddy knew Page was there the whole time, cause he literally watched the show from the side of the stage in a folding chair and even though he had his back to us, we knew damn well who it was---great video---also recall seeing the firm in April 1985, awesome job really enjoyed the video and congrats to your parents!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Wow great perspective on the show, so you guys knew beforehand, that the man himself was there? SO COOL. The Firm's shows from 1985 to 1986 were good yes, i like 1986 specially because of the closing track. My parents are happy to see this video gain so much traction hehe. Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@BeLoose1
@BeLoose1 Год назад
Fantastic video. You did a great job!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 12 coming up this Saturday January 21st!
@btoal2001
@btoal2001 Год назад
It’s an absolute tragedy to play in the air tonight and not have the drum fill.
@massimolombardi1367
@massimolombardi1367 Год назад
Ahahahah.....i'm sure you don't know nothing about monster drumming by Collins in 70s with Genesis and fusion band Brand X.
@btoal2001
@btoal2001 Год назад
@@massimolombardi1367 first of all I don’t know nothing? Can we at least attempt to pay attention to sentence structure? And finally, of course I know that Phil is a drummer. Like 10 minutes later he was on the Philly stage playing with Led Zeppelin. My point was, and it’s really half a joke, that if you play In the Air Tonight not just once but twice that day, you needed to have a drummer on stage to play the fill. Whatever you do with the rest of your days, don’t pretend you know half as much music as I do.
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 Год назад
@@btoal2001 Don't take it so personally dude. People just like talking about music. It was a funny comment, and true. Like a lot of genesis and brand x fans lots of people just like to bring it up in comments because so many don't know phil apart from 80s songs. Moroccan Roll was better to me than face value, but thats maybe just me. I think he just wanted to bring it up on your funny comment (and true).
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
HAHAHAHAHAH you made me laugh man, that is WHY i edited that exact moment and you are the first person to make THIS comment. THANK YOU! What's interesting is that the UK audience just stood silent, the US crowd managed to clap in somewhat unison and SING the drum fill if you pay close attention. Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@babylemonade2868
@babylemonade2868 Год назад
I’ve binge watched this whole series,the work that’s gone into this is amazing. You’re also a great guitarist and live aid was on my birthday July 13th
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank You BL! That means a lot! Doing my research has been quite an adventure and it made my day to read you have binge watching hehe. Stay tuned for Episode 13 of 15 premieres this Saturday January 28th!
@dosgos
@dosgos Год назад
Great video by the way. Good story line, investigation and video clips. I bet it was tough to dig up all this "rare" material.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much Dos Gos. This particular storyline was HARD yes. So much stuff going on, bits and pieces, i wanted to paint the whole picture. I found rare material under the rocks, many surprised ME and i was like....i have to use this!
@BobNSuch
@BobNSuch Год назад
I love your guitar and bass work my friend. Another stellar video
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much Bob, Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers to 1985!!!
@Just.A.T-Rex
@Just.A.T-Rex Год назад
Freddie and Queen still had the most iconic performance this day.
@sejautie
@sejautie Год назад
Midge ure had good vocals?
@mariaocleirigh6984
@mariaocleirigh6984 Год назад
Live Aid overall, both UK and USA was full of live mistakes/adaptations, but that was part of the charm as far as I was concerned. Why should Led Zeppelin with their complicated, sophisticated music be any different. At the time I didn't notice anything other than they were together again and they were incredible, they just have that special something. It was live, it was human, it was spectacular.
@richbailey8174
@richbailey8174 Год назад
I remember it was awful. They chose the easiest songs of theirs to do and blew it....very sloppy.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Like you said Maria, they were HUMAN, that is a very good observation! Thank you for tuning in ! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th. Long Live the Zepps!
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 10 месяцев назад
Well said Mario
@robinsage1964
@robinsage1964 Год назад
This video was well researched and put together, thank you for doing this video.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Robin! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 12 coming up this Saturday January 21st!
@klcheshire
@klcheshire Год назад
I LOVE it! Thank you very much!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I'm glad you like it Thank you very much Ken! Episode 11 premieres next week!
@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973
@PlayerToBeNamedLater1973 Год назад
It would have been tough for Phil Collins to fly to the UK after a massive stadium gig and then play his own show , but he had to fly over and be the first guy to play drums for Led zeppelin in public after John Bonham died. And do it in Wembley Stadium for a concert that is being simulcast across the globe. No pressure at all , Phil 🔥I would have loved to see Tony Thompson do it by himself personally because his style is more funky and hard hitting . Phil is a really interesting drummer who is versatile as hell . But Tony's style fit Zeppelin better .
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You know, Phil being a Bonham fan, it must have been hard saying NO to this opportunity, how could he? I believe when he helped out Plant in 1983, his inner Zepp fan was thinking, OMG, this IS THE GUY. Tony Thompson was a great drummer, i just don't like his hard hitting little swing style, and i did revisit his Power Station album just to make sure. He was great with HIS own bands, Zeppelin needed someone like Cozy Powell or Simon Kirke IF they were gonna do a one-off.
@shawnryan386
@shawnryan386 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Cozy Powell is a great choice and I agree on Kirke as well.
@jordanpratt3821
@jordanpratt3821 11 месяцев назад
Having two drummers just seems like a bad idea.
@smith9808
@smith9808 Год назад
Excellent video. Wow 🤩 I can see you done a lot more Zep vids too. Subbed 100%
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thanks for the sub! And Thank you very much for watching Smith! Stay tuned for Episode 12 premieres this Saturday January 21st.
@henryjames924
@henryjames924 Год назад
This was very well done. Impressive research and non biased reporting
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very Henry James, i appreciate it! Worked non stop thru editing and research out of respect for LED ZEPPELIN and the FANS! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@aMan-or9ij
@aMan-or9ij Год назад
Phil's said, before getting the gig with Genesis, he'd follow Zeppelin around scoping out and learning Bonham's kick pedal technique, and has always credited him, along with Buddy Rich, Ringo, and Keith Moon, as being his biggest drum heroes. Bonham, apparently, didn't listen to much Genesis until Duke came out. but really liked that record. Both were amazing "feel" drummers, and both very musical. Phil's drumming on Plant's first two albums wasn't his only contribution to Plant's solo career. He gave Plant a lot of confidence in the studio, and helped him craft songs with his arrangement ability.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for sharing your appreciation for my man Phil Collins, his career was truly formidable and exceptionally consistent. Genesis body of work is incredible. And yes, his contribution on Plant's first two solo albums deserves much praise! Hope you dig the episode!
@TheIggypop1
@TheIggypop1 Год назад
your absolutely right they were both great drummers diff in the sense that john was a hard hitting drummer but he had magnificent feel and grove. phil was the same way he way more technical were he could play without overdoing the drums and knew where to put fills. phil was an amazing drummer people didn’t realize how complicated his early genesis songs were.
@merrymonarch
@merrymonarch Год назад
Phil Collins is a brilliant drummer. Would improve any band - but obviously rehearsal is still needed!
@CC-oi9mc
@CC-oi9mc Год назад
There's no way that's true. Collins was a far more skilled drummer than Bonham, they weren't even close on a technical level. Phil is in the class of guys like Bruford and Thompson.
@evankeal
@evankeal Год назад
Phils the only guy who had bigger louder drums and cymbals than Bonham even though it was because of a giant dose of serendipity on that early Peter Gabriel album. Duke was the very slight beginning of that. Bonham checked out just before Phil went full core big ass drum and cymbals waaaaay out in front of everything else.
@realchilldude1271
@realchilldude1271 Год назад
6:17 JPJ is an amazing bluegrass mandolinist, I love his mandolin playing
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Is there anything John Paul Jones can't do? He is a MUSICIAN in every sense of the word! Thank you so much for watching, hope you enjoy the rest of the series.
@realchilldude1271
@realchilldude1271 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories He has a great performing attitude, yeah hes a jack of all trades when it comes to music. And i will thanks.
@MrLouisfine
@MrLouisfine Год назад
Very good documentary. Thank you for this upload.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Cheers for Phil and the Zepps!
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 Год назад
Another great video. I truly love your perspective and retrospective of Zep and 80's rock after the unfortunate passing of Bonzo.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much Chris, means a lot! This video series has been quite a learning experience!
@jamesedgewood4643
@jamesedgewood4643 Год назад
I love the deeply sinister tone of this documentary.... it's like he's investigating the JFK assassination or something...It is brilliantly overblown.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hehe, thanks. That's probably YEARS of watching Unsolved Mysteries and E True Hollywood Story as a kid, back when those shows ROCKED. Robert Stack will forever be the voice of Sinister Narration!
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo Год назад
That's the most amazingly detailed pull down of Led Zeppelin's greatest train wreck at Live Aid. Plant, Page, Collins know they haven't done their best. Plant blames the fold back & Jimmy looks totally wasted. Just crazy how Plant has Mick Jagger syndrome desperate to push his own solo tour as if Zep never reformed. It took Coverdale / Page to shake Plant back to reality.
@user-bz9sj8mh5d
@user-bz9sj8mh5d Год назад
I think you're absolutely correct. That Coverdale/Page album was fantastic, I have no doubt it played a huge part in why Plant decided to work with Page again.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
When Page played reverse psychology on Plant going with Coverdale, Robert showed the world his EGO rules his decisions. If i was Page in 2008 i would have publicly gone out and said "I don't wanna reunite with Led Zeppelin ever again" and then start writing songs with Myles Kennedy, bet Robert would have called him up again....
@AlexAlexon3897
@AlexAlexon3897 Год назад
@@davidrice3337: Your comment seems designed to make Robert Plant impressed. He probably won't read it, and he's strong enough to withstand criticism. I trust you've stopped listening to Immigrant Song and the rest of that Zeppelin "bullshit".😅
@johnm1066
@johnm1066 Год назад
@@davidrice3337 " Moving forward " into mediocrity. What Plant and Lennon and so many others never seemed to realize, probably because of their over inflated egos, was that groups are often greater than the sum of their parts. I think they made the right decision to disband after Bonham's death. Zeppelin isn't Zeppelin without Bonham. But nothing any of them did subsequently even approaches the brilliance that was Led Zeppelin.
@mares9393
@mares9393 Год назад
@@user-bz9sj8mh5d yup, he didn’t want Jimmy having success
@mightyV444
@mightyV444 Год назад
Very interesting video, thank you! 😀👍 Living in Germany at that time and because of the time difference, I didn't watch many of the Philadelphia gigs, and the Led Zep' reunion was among the ones I _didn't_ get to see. I _still_ haven't watched the whole thing, for some reason, but I've heard sooo many negative things about it over the years, as if everyone's been ignoring anything positive on purpose! Phil says "I've had a great time!", but in truth he didn't really, because (according to his bio) he could feel from Tony that he was seen more like a rival by the latter and wanted this to be only his _own_ great moment as Led Zep's drummer. Hence there wasn't any team work between the two drummers, also resulting in those moments when Phil stopped playing altogether. And yes, Phil's kit definitely was much lower in the sound mix than Tony's, too!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hope you can check the entire performance, its worth. The reason i didn't play long audio portions of it was because its been overplayed i think but please listen to it, despite the issues and all, the magic was there in a way. Phil tried to play it "corporate" backstage, his career was generating CRAZY REVENUES so yeah, bad move to take on a brawl with the might Zepp...but Plant knew, it was not the best result. Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@brandonshaw2120
@brandonshaw2120 Год назад
Very, very well put together. 🙂
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for tuning in Brandon! I appreciate it! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
I saw Jaco Pastoris in The Blue Note jazz club from about 7' from the stage in the mid/late 1980's....I can't even imagine adding his greatness to Jimmy's in a live show. Amazing.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
NO WAY you saw Jaco at close proximity, WOW, just WOW. I just got Weather Report's 8:30 album from 1979 btw, what a killer album, ALIENS those guys were!
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
Yes I did. The Blue Note jazz club in NYC is a very small club, and great artists not only perform there, but sit in the audience to listen to other great artists perform. One night I sat at the table right next to Al Jarreau to watch someone perform. I saw Jaco there....two steps from my table, which was right up against the stage. The stage is about 4' off the floor, and the dinner tables are butted right up against the stage. Jaco was out of this world great. I saw Miles Davis play there too.
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
You saw a homeless drug addicted jaco at his lowest. That’s beyond sad and not something to brag about People like you enabled him and had him homeless in a park where his basses were stolen. Awful
@frankrusso9200
@frankrusso9200 Год назад
@@tektoniks_architects Yup, Blue Note is cool.
@unclerustica7335
@unclerustica7335 Год назад
Page never turned off the flanger because he wanted to sound like Mike Rutherford on “Follow you follow me.”
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Haha good one, probably Page wanted to do that and ABACAB after!
@davidsco27
@davidsco27 Год назад
What a memory trip. I caught both the Firm and Plant at the Byrne in NJ. This was the first time I'd heard anything from that plant show. I remember the "Any requests?" tease. Scott Muni, from WNEW in NYC opened teasing special guests. They closed with a Honeydrippers set with Paul Schaeffer, Brian Seltzer and Page
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You my friend are a LUCKY man, thanks for sharing these moments. I am honored that you watched the episode! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 Год назад
DuuuUUUde ! really good job covering this period..u always make good video's..I have an older sister 10 years older than me..& was married 10 5 1985..a week before your parents..happy anniversary 2 your parents..I'm sure ..their cool...🌠
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thanks for the good vibes Greg! I appreciate it! I was on a full 1985 playlist while writing the script for this one hehe.
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesduude good job.!
@TheChadTI
@TheChadTI 10 месяцев назад
Saw this live at the time.(on TV) To me it felt rough but I knew it was thrown together last minuite and didnt expect perfection It was just fun to see them together again and the crowd certainly popped for them. It's been built up into this big disaster that at the time it didn't feel like to me. We called Phil Collins Intercontinental Phil after this 😅
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 10 месяцев назад
Intercontinental hehe, yeah he was the epitome of that. The performance itself wasn't that bad really, people tend to exaggerate. But well, this is what the documentary is for :) Thank you for watching!
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Год назад
33:42 - some things can be overanalysed. Many an audience member now know how a gig can be lessened by constantly photographing OR videoing it, and holding an annoying phone up etc & basically relying on technology to interpret the event for you AFTER the event instead of experiencing it DURING the event for oneself. Somethings just have to be experienced “in the moment“ I witnessed LIVE AID like most: from in front of the TV and it has to be remembered/appreciated as a moment in time, and with that in mind, no one complained about the performance and everyone was just happy about The event. A similar thing happened with the Rolling Stones and their withholding of rock ‘n’ roll Circus. There was no real problems with that performance, either because, NOW, it was what it was because THEN it is what it is at the time
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
You are spot on about the Stones' Circus, the show was great indeed. Sometimes musicians can get stressed, very much.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories you are very right. When musicians are thinking from the heart they can be great, but when they’re thinking from their head… Maybe not so much!😉
@nowandzen3459
@nowandzen3459 Год назад
You do some very impressive research! I've been a huge fan of Zep and their post-Zep careers for 30+ years, and yet I learn new things from many of your videos. Never knew that Collins discussed the reunion and setlist before they went on stage. Great stuff!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you man, what an honor you being a huge Zepp Fan and you find new bits and pieces in these videos, means a lot. Poor Collins discussing the set prior to have the whole world watching....geez! hahaha
@Dave-hp4vh
@Dave-hp4vh Год назад
Holy shit, that two-hand tapping was so fast, clean & even that I thought that was an analogue synth sequencer line until you started that descending line and cut to the guitar in-shot... is that you playing!?! Nice stuff :)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much Dave, that is me playing yes! I really liked JPJ's work. The album as a whole is a gem! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz Год назад
"We Are The World" is such a ghastly tune.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
It is! i hate it hahahah
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie Год назад
The British counterpart was much better. Can’t remember other than Boy George was featured. 😆 and of course Collins was on drums wasn’t he
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz Год назад
@@Twotontessie Yes,Feed The World.
@poitor5915
@poitor5915 Год назад
i’d rather a miss firing zep any day 😂
@kasperkjrsgaard1447
@kasperkjrsgaard1447 Год назад
@@Chrisdrumz “Do they know it’s Christmas”
@Texaschilipepper
@Texaschilipepper 10 месяцев назад
You can tell from the post-debacle interview that Plant's ego was what kept Zep from continuing. Just think of the shows they could have made for decades.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely man. You are right on the money. Thank you very much for watching.
@mbrad5179
@mbrad5179 Год назад
My biggest memory of their performance was the awkward way they almost immediately killed the vibe by leaving the stage and randomly having Mark Goodman corner Ben Orr of the Cars (of all people) right afterward to get his reaction. In a tough spot he grimaced, "Awesome. Simply Awesome."
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Quite the contrast hehe, that definitely was one of those Live Aid Moments!
@jmo1366
@jmo1366 Год назад
This group of vids are a treasure! Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together for everyone!!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching! Episode 13-14 are out now, stay tuned for the Season Finale Episode 15 premieres on Saturday February 11th.
@mp-kq3vc
@mp-kq3vc Год назад
I don't know where you get your rare Zep videos, and don't tell. Those Plant Honeydrippers and Page XYZ clips are amazing. I'm referring to the whole series. Absolutely no-one has covered the 80's Zeppelin story the way you have. Don't leave out Peter Grant. He basically lost it after Zeppelin's demise, and that deserves much coverage.
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 Год назад
I think you might find that Dave Lewis has already documented everything there is to know very well indeed. That's of course only if you're able to read.
@wyganter
@wyganter Год назад
@@apollomemories7399 The OP knows how to read, but unlike you he’s not a c#nt.
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 Год назад
@@wyganter Get over your triggered self, you dweeb. Dave Lewis covered all this in way better immaculate detail 30 years ago. But you wouldn't ever know that cos it's news to you.
@wyganter
@wyganter Год назад
@@apollomemories7399 Wow, talk about triggered!
@apollomemories7399
@apollomemories7399 Год назад
@@wyganter Yes, you were. Let me remind you that it was yourself who took exception to my alternative information source and what did you do? You turned around as fast as Flynn and offerered offensive insult because YOU were absolutely triggered.
@radiomindchatter7994
@radiomindchatter7994 Год назад
For years Jimmy blamed Phil Collins but the truth is that Jimmy was loaded, nervous and sloppy. Can't wait to see your take on this..
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects Год назад
Imagine the pressure: coming back from heroin addiction, on the world stage, hundreds of millions watching live on tv, no rehearsal, poor setup. Most people in the world could never even stand on that stage, let alone play up to the expectations. Jimmy was out of it for sure....but this was a monumental "ask".....the pressure was over the top. Any rational human would be nervous as hell. Also remember: if not for a poor showing at Live Aid, the O2 may never had happened. Jimmy wanted to put to rest that Zep could deliver in the clutch, and they did on 2007.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Phil Collins got a raw deal afterwards, not fair indeed. Like Tektoniks said, much pressure, a normal human being wouldnt be able to handle this. Jimmy was in the midst of quite a personal battle. Hope you guys enjoy the episode!
@ikigomez1407
@ikigomez1407 Год назад
I saw this Led Zeppelin Reunion at the Live Aid here on RU-vid, I really like it.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Worth the price of admission right that reunion!
@Marine_Ret
@Marine_Ret Год назад
July 13, 1985, living in Beaufort SC, I watched Page, Plant & JPJ play Live Aide in my hometown of Philly. Unable to get tickets for the 1977 MSG shows, holding tickets for the 1980 Philly show and hearing that Bonzo died, the Live Aide show was a big deal. Until then TSRTS was all we had.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
That's so cool you were able to go. I would have been the same if 1977 and 1980 didn't happen. When revisiting the footage for this episode i got excited, it was a good show despite what people say!
@Marine_Ret
@Marine_Ret Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories What made it such an event was during the Zeppelin years they didn’t do TV or Media appearances, didn’t hang out in the media spot light…they toured and then disappeared until the next tour.
@chrisshenzo2594
@chrisshenzo2594 Год назад
My favorite part of this were the Phil Collins observations at the end. Made me admire Phil , someone I've never paid much attention to...by choice!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Phil was hurt for being made the scapegoat and rightfully so. Thank you for tuning in Chris! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@manictree5436
@manictree5436 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories But why play without rehearsal (despite saying he was asked by Robert)? Likes to toss the blame around to others.
@paulkelso6690
@paulkelso6690 Год назад
Great video as always, thanks mate ✌️☺️ That's the reason why led zeppelin broke up? Probably not far wrong. I always thought the problem with live aid was the 2 drummers trying to replace bonzo. The issue with that is, no can replace him in my opinion.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it Paul! This video had a LOT To cover and it got me working beyond 7 to 11 every night hehe. No one can replace Bonham, his contribution was so much more than music...he was a FAN of the band, 1980 was such a tragic year. Stay tuned for Episode 11 next week! Happy New Year man!
@HardRockMaster7577
@HardRockMaster7577 Год назад
I have learned that John Bonham was Zep's Biggest Fan, and, the Heart & Soul of Zeppelin.
@JamesTaylor-yg7ow
@JamesTaylor-yg7ow Год назад
It's a great video JCM, your efforts are appreciated.
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 Год назад
I remember the day so well, and the “would they, wouldn’t they?“ do it question. When Phil Collins introduced them it was so surreal. I was sitting in my living room watching TV somewhere around 5 pm on a Saturday afternoon. And Led Zeppelin casually take to the stage. Only JCM could put it all into such wonderful context weaving the drama while beautifully framing this landmark performance. Sure the music didn’t quite live up to it but did I care? Nah, I was watching Led Zeppelin live on television, six years after Knebworth, the second and final time I would hear them and watch them really live. This story had to be told and you did such a great job as usual Jose.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
I am honored that you find the context and editing here faithful to the events of 1985. I salute you sir, this was a great time for music no matter what some people say. Thank you so much for watching this one, i still believe it wasn't Phil Collins' fault.
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Just cooking up some chilli while listening to “Hendrix In The West”. Looking forward to tonight’s main event “Tea For One”
@merlinambrosius4398
@merlinambrosius4398 Год назад
Have you ever played a gig with no rehearsal? With no rehearsal and 2 drummers? Didn't think so.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
A gig with no rehearsal is like trying to Wing a job interview of the highest caliber, you just DONT! Thank you for tuning in Merlin! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@merlinambrosius4398
@merlinambrosius4398 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Heya. What i was toying to say in somewhat rambling way is... It was live aid... largely impromptu... Most people were not aware of this 'problem ' until this disjointed video. Even after watching twice... all I can get is that you're a big fan of Phil Collins... the alleged wife beater. That is literally all that comes across in this video. It brings nothing to the table. Clips that are just terrible. Non entity.
@lucasoheyze4597
@lucasoheyze4597 Год назад
I have...well, not with two drummers, but yeah...the big difference was I wasnt in a band beloved by a whole generation and in front of a live TV audience of over a billion people 😆
@thomasseliger2982
@thomasseliger2982 Год назад
Wild to see all those stars in the 80s all together in one setting. Never thought I would see ozzy standing next to plant.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Imagine the conversation between the Prince of Darkness and The Principle of Moments hehe. Thank you for tuning in Thomas, stay tuned for Episode 11!
@dylanwatson1287
@dylanwatson1287 Год назад
Ozzy must've been really shit faced at Live aid because his face was HUGE at that time.
@TimmyTickle
@TimmyTickle Год назад
@@dylanwatson1287 Sharon has claimed that Ozzy was addicted to Big Macs around this time, to the extent that his minders were told to keep him away from McDonalds outlets at all costs
@dylanwatson1287
@dylanwatson1287 Год назад
@@TimmyTickle LMFAO! He almost makes me think of Vince Neil from Motley Crue now of how beloated he looks at Live Aid.
@matm4331
@matm4331 Год назад
Thank you for posting this. I was glued to MTV that day and the EC, Phil Collins, Led Zep run of performers was the highlight for me. Yes they were sloppy and rusty but I was just grateful for anything from Led Zeppelin again. Most don't ever mention that the Eric Clapton set was incredible and Phil was great just 15 minutes before Zeppelin came on, IMO.
@anthonycraig1458
@anthonycraig1458 Год назад
Yes I think everyone seems to forget that Phil Collins played perfectly well with Eric Clapton's band and yet suddenly just a short while later he's blamed for Led Zeppelin's performance. I don't think Phil Collins was the problem.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Weird the Clapton set seems to be lost in time right? MTV did help this EVENT be HUGE i would say. Can't imagine the excitement at the time watching this LIVE! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@guitaleleoeuvre
@guitaleleoeuvre Год назад
Great rock-music history lesson! I am impressed by the research it must have taken to gather all the info! Kudos!
@guitaleleoeuvre
@guitaleleoeuvre Год назад
(However, JCM, I think you are incorrect that Phil Collins gets much "blame" from true Led-Zepplin fans! We KNOW the strife within the Zep! Some of it continues to this day!) Another "reunion" between the 3 + Jason (or, any other great drummer) probably will never happen again! These days, rock heroes keep dropping like flies! I am so happy Robert and John Paul Jones are STILL sharp as a nail. (I worry about Jimmy Page because I haven't heard anything from him/about him in a long while!)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much! This whole series has been one hell of a research exercise i can tell you hehe. It makes my day reading comments like yours, as a FAN and a musician it means a lot. You are right that Robert and Jonesy seem Healthy. Jeff Beck's tragic passing just reminds us of the fragility of human existence, we are lucky to be here each day. Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th :)
@guitaleleoeuvre
@guitaleleoeuvre Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I am uploading a cover of Shapes Of Things right this moment in tribute to Jeff.
@talesfromthetoiletseat8295
@talesfromthetoiletseat8295 Год назад
This is awesome. Great job!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@zooropaforever
@zooropaforever Год назад
It was a memorable moment. On that day everyone thought it was a GREAT performance. Blaming and bad words came later. PC and RP knew each other well and Plant wanted him to be on stage. Page probably didn't, PC was already considered a "top gunner" amongst drummers and was going to fill up the place of one of the very few drummers that was greater than him. It wouldn't be the first time that Plant would have ask to remove his performancese from a similar event anyway. He did the same with his partecipation at the Freddie Mercury tribute.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Oh yes, Plant doing INNUENDO did make me feel bad as a fan when i watched it for the first time on RU-vid since i thought for many years that he ONLY did Crazy Little Thing which suited his voice and is similar to Zeppelin's Hot Dog. Robert's ego is an enigma, this research has allowed me to rethink many theories and come up with new ones of how the inner workings of the Zeppelin really worked. Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this Saturday - January 14th!
@zooropaforever
@zooropaforever Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'm old enough to remember both the performances of the Live Aid and the FMT. In the latter it was immediately clear that Plant wasn't at his best expecially compared to perfectionists like Brian May and Roger Taylor. He also missed a part of the verse. Innuendo was an instant classic when it was released in 1991 and Plant had the honor/responsibility for its very first live execution. He did not so well but, then again, it must had been such an incredible pressure. For the Live Aid I think that most of the fuss was unnecessary raised by Page later. PC was (still is?) a real good friend of Plant. He was his drummer in his first 2 albums and his early tour... and PC was already the giant PC! If we want to make a "parallel", PC in 1985 had to fill the Bonham legend. In 1992 Plant had to fill the Mercury Legend. I suspect that, from times to times, legends should be stay resting. 🤣
@vizokhrieo1209
@vizokhrieo1209 Год назад
JCM you're a great guitarist. Big fan of yours, keep up the cool work
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Hey Vizo! Thank you so much man! Appreciate it! Hope you enjoy all the new videos! JCM Studios keeps making coffee to stay awake and work hehe!
@user-kz2di3ot1y
@user-kz2di3ot1y 6 месяцев назад
I watched the Live Aid performance on TV in the UK in the early hours of the night - and although the sight of them back together again on stage was incredibly exciting, it became quickly clear something was wrong musically. If only they'd rehearsed! All these years later, I still find it pretty much unwatchable. Brilliant documentary. Thanks.
@brianruvalcava7492
@brianruvalcava7492 Год назад
Well done Sir! I enjoyed another good episode and waiting for more.. I was a teenager when I saw it live on tv and also recorded it on my VHR box , . I totally think that Phil might of put a lot on his plate for doing the drumming , but like he said , he is only human and he's still one of the greats of 80's if you want to compare all those guys solo career.. You brought up some good points , Mr. Thompson was trying to show up Phil to maybe further the career( but he was already a pro and great style) I'm sure pocket wise he might thought (smart man). What I remember that day, Page is one of the great musicians whoever lived but, he is horrible playing live at times and you can tell he was wasted ,and dancing goofy and very laughable at times. I also think was probably jealous of Collins's and Plant's history together. They all played a part in it but I'm sure Page doesn't want ppl to remember how bad he looked that day and could blame Phil Collins. Back stage , Plant doesn't want to blame page , because he still gets paid for Led Zepp's back royalties. Phil Collins is having health issues right now and hope he lives his life in peace, wishing him the best ! Long live Collins!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you so much Brian! Agree that maybe Page felt some jealousy over Plant/Collins. I just feel that Collins get such a bad rap even with Genesis fans throwing the "sellout" claims...to see the state he is in NOW, i think people should respect and give him credit for SO MUCH!
@frankmazza1904
@frankmazza1904 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories It was Page, wasted, like you said about the effects he was using on his guitar.
@brianruvalcava7492
@brianruvalcava7492 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories agree
@brianruvalcava7492
@brianruvalcava7492 Год назад
@@frankmazza1904 good point!
@scottsnow6965
@scottsnow6965 Год назад
Just got through watching 02 again yesterday. I think they more than redeemed themselves there. I hope you cover that in another series. Cheers!
@user-bz9sj8mh5d
@user-bz9sj8mh5d Год назад
Agreed 100%. The O2 performance certainly deserves a video of its own at some point.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Will do! Thanks on the table and i will give you a hint....working on the script RIGHT NOW :) just before premiering ANOTHER script i also have in stored!
@HardRockMaster7577
@HardRockMaster7577 Год назад
With just one song, "Kashmir," they were redeemed at the O2.
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
02 musically decent. Vocally it was fucking horrid.
@scottsnow6965
@scottsnow6965 Год назад
@@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 Bullshit!
@paweszczutowski1050
@paweszczutowski1050 Год назад
Thank you for detailed review of Live Aid gig. "Bonham was the engine that kept Led Zeppelin running" - enough said. In their defence, JPJ was also right when he said "The feeling was there". For me, for the last time.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
For the last time, agreed. Now the 2007 Reunion had the proper gratitude and intention though! Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres next week!
@paweszczutowski1050
@paweszczutowski1050 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yeah, I mean 2007 Reunion it's a safe, by-the-numbers show, but in Led Zeppelin case nothing should be safe and by-the-numbers. :D I know people who really like this show, but they arn't fanatics of the band like I am. When you heard "Blueberry Hill" or even "Listen to this Eddie" you know 2007 Reunion barely cutting the mustard :D
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
@@paweszczutowski1050 yes absolutely, i understand. Zeppelin is an all-in situation which i know makes us Zepp fans appreciate their 1968-1973 run much more than the latter days concerts that tended to follow tighter parameters.
@paweszczutowski1050
@paweszczutowski1050 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories exactly. Zepp concerts till 1980 tour always were all-in situation, full of bravado and taking chances. That was the whole point of this band. On Live Aid they done what they did best, they took a chance. But it backfired in their faces. Feeling maybe was there, but Bonham, the engine like you very well said, wasn't. After Live Aid they never took chance again. For me, since Live Aid spirit of Led Zeppelin is gone.
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 Год назад
As always, spectacular work on this documentary JCM, hat's off to you sir. @42:33, Robert Plan't full ego and wankery are on display here.The faces that Jones and Page when he's talking is the full telling. It's funny back in the early 80's when I was listening to all Led Zep's stuff without any video reference, makes me wish that in modern times I had not had the visuals like these to ruin the anominity of the characters in the band, especially Plant. They made the right decision to end it when they did. These performances prove that point, and I don't think so much that it was because they "wouldn't" do it without Bonzo, they probably knew they couldn't especially with one particular ego as seen here. Keep up the good work JCM, look forward to the next one.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Thank you very much Tom and Happy New Year btw! You know the more i look deep into the story and revisit places, i can see Bonham held the pieces together to a degree that i believe he gets credit for, psycologically speaking he had Plant grounded and humble whenever his ego got in the way. He had a good relationship WITH EVERYONE in the band while being the engine simultaneously. I believe his son Jason had the same fire and confidence but not the same skill level, but you can tell Page is happy to play with him, don't blame him, Robert's attitude is really where his Black Country demons rub people the wrong way.
@tomb8430
@tomb8430 Год назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Happy New Year to you too mate... What you say about Bonzo is probably right. Since he is the only one not there now, he must be that binding glue that is missing in the music. I sort of wish people would stop hoping for any type of re-union. Best to let it go, because it's too easy to be disappointed, especially as we are reminded so many times in your post Zep documentaries. That's what makes your docos so fascinating. Looking forward to the next one!
@kliffklass
@kliffklass Год назад
Absolutely, Plant comes across as a total preening prick.
@astroman30
@astroman30 Год назад
Another brilliant episode. I remember watching the Live Aid performance and I was excited just to see them on the stage. Clearly, the people there wanted to pay homage to Zep no matter how they sounded. Yet, the performance was par for course and resulted in a perfect storm of disappointment. Out of all the performers, I blame Page the most. His demons were still having a go with him. The dismal performances of some of his late 70s shows followed him to Philly. Yes, we can bash Tony Thompson (RIP) for not doing his homework, but he was only one piece of this horrific puzzle. Plant seemed to play through this as some of his improv shows he performed at clubs back in the early 80s. Hence, his philosophy was just to wing it and see what happens. Jonesy is/was perfect as always. Collins was the scapegoat and was clearly lost. Page blames Collins because he was jealous of his fame in that time period and saw how Percy was clinching to Phil in hopes of having the same solo success. Let's be honest, Zep wasn't always perfect on the road. They are better in the studio behind Page's brilliant producing. Don't get me wrong, Zep had some magical moments, on stage, but this was just a typical Zep show minus the brilliant Bonzo.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Год назад
Very good points Astroman30, Bonzo is greatly missed to this day indeed, many moments to think about and the 80s as a whole, shed light on demons that were carried around for TOO long it seems. Thank you for tuning in! Episode 11 premieres this coming Saturday January 14th.
@manictree5436
@manictree5436 Год назад
"The Rain Song", "The Song Remains the Same", "Celebration Day", or even "No Quarter" for that matter are far better live than in the studio, just to name a few!
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