Love the breakdown as always boys, but respectfully, the no-call on TMM was the howler of the year. It's little wonder that Warriors fans feel their team gets dudded more than anyone else in the comp. If that were the Storm they were playing, Salmon gets sent off immediately, and they kick the penalty for the win.
@Oskar.s.s like when Jarome Hughes leg was hit kicking, same thing Harry Grant got binned for against Sharks for even less contact, and it's just a penalty?
@@countrytodd4614 never said the Tigers don’t get some good calls, they get more bad ones. Grant should never have been binned for that tackle. What’s your point?
Disappointing take on the TMM hit boys. Graham Annesley has called out the Bunker for an “unacceptable” missed penalty that cost the Warriors a shot at goal that would have put them in front in the final few minutes of the game. He also said that the Bunker didn't look to see if the hit was late, they only looked to see if it was high. This was a BLATANT penalty, at a critical moment in a game, where the Warriors were playing for their season. Pretty much out of the top 8 now. It's BS.
Annesley has called out the bunker for "unacceptable" calls against Warriors multiple times. I said in 2002 "Warriors will never win a comp until refereeing is called by robots, only then will they get a fair chance.
For me, many question the integrity of adjudicating and officiating due to the inconsistent rulings during the match and post-match review. I feel gutted for the Warriors as they applied pressure and for me, Salmon's late tackle was a result of fatigue under pressure and they got "nada". The talk today doesn't resonate with the many previous talks about consistency with calls that is for refs and TMO of "getting this shit right".
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. That's BS. The two calls cancel each other out.
Te Maire Martin was taking late 3 times - 18th minute by Salmon (penalty awarded), 74th minute Salmon Late after the pass head clash (no penalty) , 75th Minute Kikau cleans him out after the kick (no penalty)
@@Izzy-oo5rm I did I went through tackle by tackle and when they were infringed there was a penalty eg Jackson ford on report for supposed crusher on Kikau yet Kikau not even penalized for his identical tackle on Dylan Walker
Mate the dogs should have received at least fkn 5 penalties for holding down, but naaaa even when the ref tried to hand you the game, yall couldn’t capitalise
@@TysonTietie there was 0.12 seconds difference in the play the bAll stats. 3.4s versus 3.28s. Maybe look at the 53 missed tackles by the bulldogs. The 73% completion rate. Only 469 post contact meters versus 758 They had 3-1 advantage in the 6 again as well. Kikau got let off for a crusher as well. If you think the ref was on the warriors side you blinder than a wombat with his head up a kangaroos arse
Pretty poor that Willie didn't see one of the biggest talking points of the weekend. Horo basically saying it shouldn't be a penalty even tho NRL said they fucked up
Him calling that a 50/50 is pretty fucked up, especially when they went back 3 plays for a shoulder charge earlier in the game with that wasnt high or late
Take on TMM late hit: respectfully, worst levels take I’ve heard. Even live it looked bad. While he came out worst - he ran head first into te maire. Shocker. Will keep listening obviously huge fan - but don’t like that take at all.
Slightly late you are cooking mate, it was like a second or 2 late with intent, you can clearly see him wanting to commit to the tackle and it was high again WITH FORCE, and the ball was half way in transit. It is 100% a penalty and a yellow minimum for any other team.
@@taiyonatiare7918 I’m definitely not if it was any other team they both would of been blowing up but because it was the bulldogs and salmon hurt himself it’s apparently all good
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
@@jvvoid I see you here raging through the comments. 2 Wrongs don't make a right and the call in the first half wasn't even close. With the players injured the bunker had 2-3 minutes to make the call on the Salmon tackle, which was late and high. The bottom line is they shit their pants when the heat was on - and despite you obviously being a Bulldogs fan you know that to be true. It's ok to admit that sometimes your team got a favourable call you know.
Ref put whistle in pocket to let game decide, fair enough, but when bunker reviews and calls it fair play, that's a different story as bunker is there to make correct calls. Reed Mahoney takes off standing side by side with marker for charge down was clearly not straight as well.
@taiyonatiare7918 yeah but that was in there hands..!! Not the reffs!! A NO penalty call in front of the post with 8 mins to go is a big game changer mate.. From the time of the No call, there was No points scored!! If the dogs scored befor full time, then you guys would say, we scored anyway 2 points wouldn't of won the game.... but you guys didn't it went to OT when we should of been up 2!! But we still had other Chances to win that game, even if we won would still be blowing up about the NO call, doggies probly had more Chances to win b4 OT tho, with sexton dropping the ball over the line. But like I said that's on them not on a NO CALL. Other then that, it was an awesome game, those back 3 getting injured and the form the doggies are in ended up being to big for us to overcome🔥
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
@jvvoid but it's a penalty. either a penalty or not, it was tho, they showed how they was going to reff it, and what standars.! Then the reffs not calling a penalty for us in a one that was worse!! Its the inconsistency on the same types of calls but different results!! Salmon went so high the idiot broke his jaw!! Who gets rewarded for his suspension, not warriors anyway. Plus montoyas penalty, they went back 3 or 4 plays to give yous a penalty.. tell me, if you guys scored a try, would he have taken the try off you guys and went back for a penalty?? NO!! Your the only one I seen tryna make exscuses for the NO Call🤣🤣
@@NZ_TheRealJaedyn You're very confused. There's no excuses in what I've said, don't make stuff up. Like saying Salmon went so high he broke his jaw. You can break your jaw on someone's knee or hip, how high is that, Einstein? Let me put it in easy words for you: TMM not hurt, hit not high, Salmon do bad thing to himself. Warriors had every chance to win that game, not good enough to do it. Bulldogs did. There's contentious calls every game. If you can't handle it then take up knitting or something.
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out. And contact wasn't high.
@jvvoid do you realize how life works? If an action happens or doesn't happen, subsequently everything is different... if the penalty is not given at half time every single thing that happens in the game following that will be different. An example is if the penalty isn't given someone watching at home won't leave their chair and grab a beer from the fridge while the kick is being lined up, and the rest of their evening will subsequently look different because of that, even if it's ever so slight.. those kinda arguments you give are such BS.
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
Cant blame Mason for supporting his boys but anyone can see that that game just showed the bulldogs arent a premierships level team. Na thats actually annoying, mace didnt even see the play and wants to comment on it. The point is slamons hit warranted a 2 plus week suspension but somehow not an on field penalty.
Imagine bragging about beating a team that had 2nd rowers playing wing and props playing centre while being gifted the win from a sus bunker 😂 yeah sure Horo 50/50 call? Like when Montoya hit Tracey and they went back 3 tackles?
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
2:19 "bulldogs shouldnt have won if you look at the stats" broooo if our back 3 went of injured we had Leka at Centre Capewell on the wing dogs should have cleaned us up
Dogs of the week for mine: Keano Kini and Mitch Barnett Don't have the numbers in front of me, don't give a fuck. Kini was the smallest bloke on the field and was running smack bang in to the biggest cunts on the field all night. Crucial for the Titans W. Barnett goes without saying. Relentless effort all game. No slight against you lads, you had great calls too
You talking bias mate?? If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. Frilly knickers. The two calls cancel each other out.
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
@@jvvoid lifting isn’t allowed, the penalty was warranted. They don’t cancel each other out. Warriors could have also got a penalty earlier for the nonsensical drama the bulldogs tried to create after a tackle. Hilarious watching Bulldog fans trying to justify their win against a team with forwards playing on the wing 😂
Can the TRIPLE OG Gordon is a hypocrite for said we can’t judge Billy as a player but as a coach a few weeks ago but yet all of Gordon’s rebuttals comebacks are all about the comparison between himself and Madge’s playing career
Warriors 100% should have won that game against the bulldogs. given they were depleted with back three off and the bulldogs just won. I think it speaks more highly of the warriors instead of the bulldogs.
@@Izzy-oo5rm the hit on Te Maire Martin was to the head and right in front of the posts and wasn’t called a penalty. Salmon is up for 2-3 weeks suspension because of it. Def not saying teams that get injuries should always win. In this case the warriors were at the wrong end of a shithouse call. If you watched the game you would know that.
@@hwm2024 I did watch the game and I also saw warriors get away with a lot of things in the first half that wouldve been penalties in other games and then they were gifted 2 points at half time which is NOT a penalty. So its safe to say that the ref wanted to let the game flow and put his whistle away for the whole game. I absolutely love the warriors and theyre my second team but if im not going to fair and turn a blind eye on the refs performance throughout the whole game and focus on just 1 moment at the end I would be a hypocrite!!
@@Izzy-oo5rm there’s a difference between the ref letting the game flow which works both ways, versus a hit on a playmaker which the guy gets 2-3 weeks suspension subsequent to the game and not being called at the time which is a clear penalty. Agree the ref had a great game overall generally, but when there’s an out and out penalty which resulted in Salmon getting banned for a few games it’s a rubbish call (or non-call)
@@hwm2024 it didnt go both ways though, warriors got all the calls in the first half and were gifted 2 points at half point because of it and the ref "evened" it out at the end by not giving that penalty
As a young kid I wasn't invested in footy like I am now but the reason I fell in love with the game was watching Hindy give his all. Still remember going down to peter wynn to get my jersey and begging my dad to get the 11 put on the back 🤣
Mase “I can understand it from the warriors fans right?” People won’t always share the same opinion that’s what makes the world go round. Imagine everyone being on the same page 😴😴
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. Frilly knickers. The two calls cancel each other out.
Warriors absolutely robbed, the fact that Salmon was charged and Annesley came out and said they got it wrong just isn’t good enough in today’s day and age. How does the Bunker go back and find Montoyas tackle a penalty and miss this? Why? Because it’s the Warriors. Please stop the Bulldogs glaze, they aren’t that good 😂😂 had to get the officials help and our whole back 3 injured!!
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, IT WAS GOLDEN POINT. And then you had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
Boys cmon, he got 3 weeks suspension, he got a tackle wrong head clash, and late. Bunker and the ref no call is why we stop watching NRL, the inconsistency where and when the bunker says a tackle or illegal play is good or not. Ref n Bunker are killing the game, gdt sine stones and make the right call. Ponga gets tackled around the shoulder, nothing in it not high or dangerous..penalty....thanks ill start watching AFL, #1 sport in oz, bunker and refs aint spoiling that game.
Loved the media piece in the last vid. Esp the comment that they feed off the 'game we built'. Do you think that there were a bunch of journalists back in the day, that believed 'they make the game with their narratives and their opinions?' They would attack players because it caused uproar in one camp or the other?
Had a great couple of hours with the tin lids today at the blues open training session. Bradman feeding the ball for left side drills with Burton inside Crichton
What are the circumstances where the bunker can award a penalty after multiple plays, is this new? Has happened in the last two Warriors game after the warriors force an error and don't think I've seen it before (other instances on the weekend the player is put on report but play continues). The strange thing as someone who watches both League and Union is that even though the rules are like checkers vs chess the inconsistency in the officiating for League probably makes it harder to follow
Question boys, Do yous geniunely believe that Origin is the pinnacle of the game? Because its hard to grasp that people actually think winning a Origin series is more harder than winning a whole premiership 😂
Don't get how it can be pinnacle, when Qld win 8 series in a row, then you get a lopped sided smashing like game 2....pinnacle is where a game is won 2-4 points Max all the time...Playing 26 rounds to win a premiership with a origin series in between...Has to ne NRL premiership
@@honeheke1128well origin is only 3 games.. 2 games to get it right. Injuries etc. Nrl is what? 28 games plus finals? Plenty of time for injuries and bad games. Winning origin is definitely harder.. They do say cant win from outside the top 4, cos you gotta play 4 at a higher lvl than normal season. Top 4 can only have one bad game (first round of finals).
TMM late hit aside, CHT threw bludger over the sideline, no one pushing through when Leka made the break and then our poor kicking game. Our D was🔥🔥🔥 Enjoy the bye, boys, we go again, Up the Fkn Wahs!!!
I enjoyed hearing Mason talking about losing so often these discussions turn into blah blah blah dominate but hearing people talk about the other side a bit is good for a change.
Honestly can’t give this poddy a bigger wrap it’s the only one I watch religiously and even live sometimes the mix between detailed explanations of stuff that you know is from two guys who know what there talking about and the random stuff from Willie that will have me in stitches laughing makes it so easy to watch 👏🏻 L1 from day1 from Leeds
Boys are usually on point but have to agree with 90% of comments on here in regards to the TMM hit, clearly late and high. Horo stating that he wouldn't like that to decide a grade final is laughable, it's the laws of the game mate. If you're gonna be consistent with refing these games, it should be a penalty 10 times out of 10 regardless of the situation and game. Love ya work otherwise boys, was at your show in Melbourne, was top notch 👌
@jvvoid yeah, I totally agree. You win some, and you lose some. But the fact we have a bunker, who looks at replays mate, that's absolutely shocking. Fair enough, miss the high tackle but to also miss the late tackle? Bloke had 2 chances to get it right.
@@chrisralm8575 There's no doubt it should've been a penalty, but not to win the game. It cancels out the penalty and two points the Warriors got just on halftime, which was a completely incorrect call. So they should've been kicking to even the scores and go into golden point, which it did. So they evened out. The other point is that refs have always tended to put the whistle away when scores are tied near 80 mins, or in golden point. Not saying that's right, it's just what they've always done, which is what Scope was saying.
While it was clearly the wrong call on field, this is not the only time it’s happened. Every club has a game like this in the season where a ref or bunker call costs them the two points. The warriors aren’t being targeted 😂 this is why squads should try to win comfortably so they’re not leaving it up to ref and bunker decisions
As a Samoan, hate to say it but Su'a is lazy. Yes he can knock blokes over, thats if they're stupid enough to run it straight. But what Su'a lacks in is speed and urgency on Defence. The same line-break the Poms did during the RLWC a couple years ago to almost setup the match winning try, is the same shit he gets caught out by in games til this day. It happend over the weekend also. Thats 100% what Billy's started to notice. Small effort areas. 🤕
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, it went to golden point. Had your chances to win, and you didn't. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. The two calls cancel each other out.
@@jvvoid Don't get me wrong he reffed the shiii outta that game just little inconsistentcys like that swings the game.. I'm guessing the wahz didn't have any captains challenge's left at that stage..
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, we got golden point. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. That's BS. The two calls cancel each other out.
Big Willie with some major short term memory and disrespect to capewell. Only a few years ago that kurty capes had to pull on the centre jersey for Qld and gave Gutho one of the great baths of all time. Proper 5 star resort material
Boys. Would you agree that Chris Randall’s defense is under appreciated much like Nigel Plum. Both big hitters but I feel they are both under appreciated
With Ashley Klein being appointed referee over Adam gee, is there a chance that the way he reffed the big games/ grand final was against how the NRL had told him to ref and has pissed them off?
Always a highlight when you two get into a debate The Capewell/Myles comparison up there with the the "Lachie Galvin has the same build as Nicho Hynes" chat a few weeks back, and gotta give points victory to Mase running the negative arguments on both occasions but keep on trucking Hoz, you will get him eventually!!!
Scope what you think of Kalyan ponga comments on Playing with Walsh "Everyone loves watching him (Walsh) I guess. His speed, his elusiveness, how exciting he is, everything,” Ponga said “I’ve been thinking about it (being teammates with Walsh) for a little while. I’ve got visions of him going down the sidelines and passing it back inside to me
I’m not sure whether Nicho has lost confidence. I get the feeling he is ‘chasing the sun’ or making up for lost time. I reckon he’s been playing hurt for a lot of the season and probably shouldn’t have played origin. But the desire to make the team was too great and convinced himself he has been good to play. I reckon this bigger injury has been because he’s pushed himself too far
It's a great time to be Panthers fan. I'm broken hearted that JFH is going to the Warriors but I have nothing but respect for what he's done for us and wish him all the best for the future. Who do you think though will walk away with bragging rights when he and Leota face off next year? Also, do you think that Isaiah Papalii will be a direct swap for JFH next year or will Sorenson go into the middle with Papalii on the flank. I seem to recall when Papalii was at Parra that he was quoted as saying that he preferred playing in the middle. I love listening to you boys talking about Penrith as they don't get the respect they earned and deserve at times from certain sections of the media.
Chur bros Just a lil story as a youngster I watched the kiwis vs Aus in Wellington maybe 2003? I was right smack bang in the middle of the pitch on kick off at ground level …the amount of shit from the crowd towards the OG wiremu mason was crack up but for the OG to stand there pulling the fingers and saying and I quote “FARRRKKUPPP” 😂😂😂was the highlight of the game for me.u we’re and still are the original DAAWWGG.no filter 😂😂😂
So if the Sharks get behind with the Tigers in the first half this round, Nicho or no Nicho. When do we have a coaching problem and the coach is in the hot seat for not having his team prepared for games better? It’s going to look real bad if they lose that first half to the tigers, or even if it’s a tie at half it will look bad.
I’m never gonna sit here and take an opinion on a penalty that should have been called but defend that it shouldn’t have been called because it’s a dumb way to end a game seriously. It’s late it’s a penalty, head clash or not it’s late and should have been called, salmon got suspended refs have came out and admitted it should have been called and warriors fans should be gutted that wasn’t called considering they’re back 3 were out of the game. That should have been called with no excuses.
This round teams such as the storm, broncos, tigers, manly, knights and Penrith maybe including the roosters debutant. 7/17 teams all played with a fb/centre on the bench. Might just be the norm
Funniest thing i heard after the game" the warrior fans after the game crying wah wah wah, wah wah wah, wah wah wah the warrior fans after the game crying wah wah wah all week long " let it go aint nothing we can say to get those 2 points back
Idea for end of season content just to post one ep a week to continue engagment for all socials - make interview type podcast with ex players (doesnt have to be hall of fame players, just someone that can have a great convo and talk about footy stories and after footy) or current players (maybe players that are doing things in and around communities) and maybe a couple more eps of gimme par.
I was working at Saint Mary‘s rugby league club and we would order chemicals and what not and who would come and drop them off Mr Mark Horo, he always stay for a chat champion bloke
Billy showed his hand here. He knows and accepts he cant match the NSW power forwards, so hes added an extra back in Kalyn, they gonna play a fast paced game plenty of ball movement, short side raids, kicks on 3rd and 4th tackle. If QLD pull this victory off itll be a coaching masterclass by Billy. And next year with Fledger Tino and Gilbert back, look out! Up qld
Love your work fellas!! Listen every week as good to get some experts opinions to help me with a few our boys tipping comps I’m in 🤣 Hehe.. But quick question I’m a close mate of Sam Tagataese (Tagga) how was it playing against the big fella?? And also who was your best origin player you ever played with & against?? Keep up the awesome work fellas & GO THE BLUES!! 🤙🏾
If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, we got golden point. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. That's BS. The two calls cancel each other out.
Bias, eh?? If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, we got golden point. Ignore the 2 points you shouldn't've got, complain about not getting more later. That's BS bias. The two calls cancel each other out.
@@alightthatnevergoesout momentum and good vibes around the club, i reckon we will still jag a few without trell, if he does need surgery our season is over realistically though 🤞🏻 he can rehab it and recover without surgery
That was not a 50/50 call on Martin. That was late, deliberate and should’ve been a penalty. Anneslly review just confirmed it should’ve been a penalty. Cmon mase you love to spray the refs but won’t do it cs it’s your team? And I’m not even a warriors fan
Just a thought maybe the off season you have a weekly podcast or do one with current player or up and coming player, imagine in the off season having letrell or the raiders 5/8 come on together how crazy for a youngster would feel with that opportunity! But love the work boys didn’t like big mase while he was playing but man over the years he has worn on me so hard i wish I did support him back then such a legend p.s qld win by 10 🫡
Chur boys!!!!! Big fan of the show so much I will listen on Spotify and watch on RU-vid just so we grow the show!!! Quick question a couple of weeks ago in the cowboys vs warriors game. Cowboys got a 20 metre restart but he went for the kick to get the ball back. Why do teams not do this more often and could you just explain the rule a bit more. L1 since D1
Yeah there is no other answer to the TMM incident other than its a mistake. It's late, it's stupid and continues the trend of poor officiating from the bunker has been producing this year.
L1 from day 1. Not liking the one eye biased here. Willie’s dog of the week. Come on man and then turning the blind eye on the late hit on TMM. Salmon broke his own jaw. Imagine if he broke Tmms
@@kennedymartinthomson2868 If the Warriors didn't get the bullshit penalty at halftime for 2 points, the Salmon thing would've not been for a win, it would've been for golden point. If the refs got both calls right, it would've been golden point. Well, we got golden point. The two calls cancel each other out.
