Old Cars & Obsolete Parts - Upgrading the Magna Ralliart's Brakes Using Custom Made Bits!

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So I wanted to upgrade the brakes on my Magna Ralliart, only to discover that you simply can't buy some of the bits any more. Nobody makes them! So today we're working out what fits, and what we need to do to get it all working properly. #motoringbox
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@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Just a reminder that all product links are in the video description, but here's a summary: *Front rotors:* RDA RDA7625D *Front pads:* EBC Ultimax2 - DP0954 *Rear rotors:* RDA RDA7624D *Rear pads:* RDA GP MAX - MIT-RDB1231-105 TLDR: You need to use Magna AWD Pads and Rotors, with the rear rotors needing a spacer.

@johncostin8294 Год назад

I'd like to see the car painted

@ChrisArmstrong-ir3fg Год назад

I think painting her would finish off the magic work that you’ve done so far … the icing on the cake, cheers mouse

@irisgrim6313 Год назад

You are a bloody legend for having this available for those who need them.

@ChristopherHallett Год назад

A quick note for the future - always ring around any "makerspaces" near to you - some of them have waterjet cutting tables, you could get a set of custom spacers made like that for little more than the cost of a big enough sheet of alloy to fit 4 on it. Also a donation to the makerspace to help keep it going.

@roderzzz Год назад

Damn where were you 15 years ago! Love the content, doing the old Aussie Magna Owners proud.

@UCkFvZiCmKQ34UOsW8pJ4TDg Год назад

Get her painted, mate. These cars are an awesome bit of automotive history. I wish I could get one myself.

@turn6garage640 Год назад

Great video, I would paint it, there are plenty of Magnas with paint peel but few with perfect paint. The world of older cars can be strange at times, anything European, Korean and American you usually can get thanks to multiple OEs still making parts and the various websites selling them in their respective continents. Japanese and Australian cars can be ok to source parts but the rare and unusual ones seem to be the hardest and require engineering solutions (like your spacer) to make what is available fit. Normally it’s the little parts that are the hardest to source such as hoses and connectors.

@dazzamac70 Год назад

The Magna needs to be painted so that it looks as good as it drives!!!👌

@user-gl1ok2tz9p Год назад

Thank you, he found everything in the description. 🙏😊

@ms_enj Год назад

I know it’s not a cheap option, Sean, but I’m hoping she gets a lick of paint, too. This car is just screaming to be a rolling testament to the phrase “restored to it’s former glory.”

@craigkeogh9570 Год назад

Use a bungee cord to secure the calliper, when you take it off the rotor to ensure it dosent fall off. Its easy to hook up under the car as well

@neilasd3043 20 часов назад

Good job old boy..

@cliffynjovelyn893 Год назад

That was a genius move with the rear brakes! Would love to see it painted, maybe a collab with a paint shop in Ipswich or Brissy?

@2007seno Год назад

Defo for a respray no doubt shiny new black with almost new enkei wheels. It. Would. Pop. That and fix the drivers seat bolster and you’re done 👍 very underrated Aussie modem classic

@donthitmeimwoozy Год назад

Omg this amazing, ive been stretching all the life i can out my rotors for this very reason.

@artilleryboy1 Год назад

@4:28 Mass effect Club Music!!! Up the Magna/Verada!!

@TheRealMrCods Год назад

Glad you got it sorted 👍

@ebv8 Год назад

Not sure if it would have worked in your case but for us AU owners who have put territory rear brakes on we spaced the rear calipers 3mm using washers. It sets the caliper back to suit the disc.

@TheKnobCalledTone. Год назад

I saw a minty fresh red Magna Ralliart at the local servo the other day. Driven by an old dude. Made me smile seeing it. I wonder if he's had it since new?

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Probably would have been! Only cars that have been garaged and looked after since new would be in a condition like that. Unless he's had it resprayed I guess.

@Tayeedz1 Год назад

Sean coming in hot with the music selection and timing

@qshank2752 Год назад

As a valiant owner redo the paint if you can afford it. You never see these things anymore or the old vals which were never treated well. If not you have already done a great job. I'm not a magna fan but your content is amazing.

@murraylaw834 Год назад

Try putting Penetrol on the peeling and faded areas of the paint. It’s made by Flood and you get it at Bunnings. It’s an oil that’s meant for rust protection and sealing timber but it works very well as a wipe on clear coat

@jamesbeasley1753 Год назад

Mate I love the old school need for speed music! Haven’t heard it in about 18 years and recognised it straight away

@pcorf Год назад

10:00 the ABS is working well too. I'm not a TJ Ralliart owner but I do have a TJ Sports and the ABS has saved me a couple of times, it does work well. Your choice if you want to repaint it, the sable black pearl had a deep green hue to it and it looked great in the day when these cars were new 20+ years ago.

@NERGYStudios Год назад

That car looks just magnificent with those wheels! You should reeeeeeely get some mad photos with a good backdrop mate!

@johnvirus01 Год назад

380 brakes wont work on the rear, but the benefit of using the awd magna setup(as factory ralliart does) means you have waaay more pad and rotor options as they are also used on the evo 5,EC5A/W legnum and galant and cj lancer ralliart(as well as other cars mitsubishi pulled these out of the parts bin for). the official stats from MMAL state the front as a 26% increase for the front and 35% on the rear in braking efficiency.(also sean, i have a factory bulletin from mmal with official stats regarding the changes to the ralliart) Unfortunately, these factory rotors have been unobtanium for years. DBA do have a part number, but they are unable to be ordered from them and we believe mitsubishi may have put a block on DBA selling them. All you need now is a set of braided brake lines(HEL ones for a legnum/galant will work) to top it all off. Also to anyone mentioning that its dangerous running this spacer, all mitsubishi did is to make the hat of the rotor 3.7mm larger. Effectively it has that spacer homologated and built in from factory.

@wiked3801 Год назад

And there it is.... 3.7 mm difference between the hat size.

@todd_harrison4500 Год назад

Not all heroes ware capes!!💪😅 Well done mate!👌

@mahcooharper9577 Год назад

Good on you for making that product, it's really hard when you have a rare car to find solutions like that. And yes, I think it definitely needs to be painted. It deserves it and now that the interior is nice the exterior should be too.

@vlockley Год назад

Good work with that spacer. I want to see it painted!

@davidvincent2838 Год назад

I reckon paint it Sean if its witin the budget. Its a classic that deserves to be brought back to former glory I reckon.

@coreycvetovac8044 Год назад

Definitely painted! In one of the last shots of the video it looked like it had a bit of green pearl to it? Not sure of the factory colour but looks great so far. Maybe when you go to do the wheel bearings, go back and paint up the callipers😉

@user-vk4vd7vr5t Год назад

Sable Black is the colour name of this. You are corrext in that It has a green metallic flake through it that looks incredible in the sun

@user-ye1se9qm8m Год назад

I was waiting for you to hit your head on the open locker thing haha

@amromano03 Год назад

Love your content, keep it up! :) Just letting you know that the Front RDA Slotted and Dimpled Brake Disc Rotors you accidentally fitted them opposite left and right. The Rear Slotted and Dimpled Brake Disc Rotors were fitted in the correct orientation. The inside of the box show a picture of the correct orientation. I work for an RDA Accredited Supplier and I use these Brake Disc Rotors every day.

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Cheers, yeah I realised that later - will be swapping them around soon.

@GForceVRX Год назад

Absolutely amazing work Sean! Thank you for this invaluable for us that own these Ralliart’s. We all appreciate it immensely!

@tractorguy1994 10 месяцев назад

Love the car! Great video quality also. Would be good to see it resprayed in that original colour.

@j06sh_w Год назад

Always a pleasure watching your videos Sean, thanks

@shannonireland9057 Год назад

Great thinking and problem solving Shawn! The spacers were a great idea💡

@lobsterwhisperer7932 Год назад

Vast majority of these have rusted out, this one looks clean, I reckon its worth your money getting it resprayed, definitely will get the money back and more when you sell it.

@MrVarvarVoom Год назад

Well dome on your troubleshooting and ingenuity Sean

@lappin6482 Год назад

great work sean 👏

@georgehatzi6625 Год назад

Well done great work.

@MattBlack6 Год назад

Hey Scotty I rang the bell. Well I already rang that bell quite a while ago.

@jzab Год назад

Great work Sean, I did a similar thing on my Subaru Leone with a Crossbred Brake rear disc conversion that needed a little adjustment. I only needed 2 mm though and I home made them out of 2mm aluminium plate. It's amazing how accurate you can be with a little bit of care and a 1:1 print out of the CAD design stuck to the sheet as a guide.

@itznsdominator3521 Год назад

Paint it paint it paint it paint it paint it paint it

@LockyH Год назад

Great video mate, loved the comedy and the editing 👍🏻

@leosheppard8517 Год назад

Heya mate… looking nice and tidy. It’s perfect time for bearings…. Hehe

@radius4914 Год назад

Awesome 😃😃

@froggy0162 Год назад

Bear in mind your wheel studs are effectively 3mm shorter now. Worth checking the nut has full engagement of the thread.

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Yup, it seems fine.

@auscarlover7485 Год назад

Wow hopped on the phone and this popped up straight away, love the content

@goosegarage78 Год назад

Those konis look like they could use a birthday.

@tehocamien323 Год назад

Great video

@FuManchu5ltr Год назад

Here’s me sipping my coffee watching. You know that scene when Maverick requests a flyby of the tower and does it anyway? Well when you dropped, “them’s the brakes”, I didn’t see it coming and I wore my coffee down the front of my shirt and said, “God damn it Sean!” As I brushed it off my shirt.

@user-pl5xx4he2x Год назад

Definitely get it repainted 👌

@RackieD Год назад

Those discs on the rear are so cute!!! They're TINY!!!

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

284mm from memory! I think the ones on the AU were 287mm.

@ChristopherHallett Год назад

Lol the FRONT discs on a Datsun 180B wagon are 232mm solid discs. The pads are smaller than a business card.

@wiked3801 Год назад

Technically its 3.7mm and a spacer to sit BEHIND the hub would have been so much neater and cleaner and kept the face of the rotor against the hub and ensured proper centre bore loading of the wheel.

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

All the figures I could find suggested 57mm vs 60.2mm - so far it works so who knows really.

@ThePowerbloke Год назад

Good job mate.

@skymit5519 Год назад

I vote yes for some paint!

@garagelifestyle Год назад

Good on ya Seano.

@ebzery Год назад

so on my au xr8 brake upgrade to gt bf rear brakes i used 3mm ht washers on the caliper mounts to space the pads across about $1.60 for 4 i think that would work the same except your wheels or now spaced further out. nice clean job well done.

@nicholasbishop3300 Год назад

Well done Sean Nick Australia

@ryziehester675 Год назад

Definitely painted will look unreal

@Devastator0 Год назад

Excellent video Sean! I must say that you are an absolute legend to the Magna community for getting those spacers made and making them available to people to buy. I know it’s a niche thing but fuck me, there will be owners who will appreciate that so much. To touch on your question about the paint, hands down get it resprayed. I know you probably won’t get a full ROI on it but man, it’ll be so sick driving around in that car in it’s prime. You’ve put so much work into it already, why not go balls deep 😂. Gotta also say that the drop in of that blue screen, gold, gave me a chuckle, as an IT guy, seeing that thrown in haha. Honestly though, keep up the great work, I know the Magna has been a bit of a ballache and you’d rather go back to the Falcons but as a Falcon tragic myself, I’m hooked onto each step of this car. Can’t wait for the next installment and I really do hope you go the respray option, I think it’ll turn out great!

@davidbarnsley8486 Год назад

Sean I have a 94 ef falcon and I am having trouble with parts for that now especially inside bits And there were thousands built so I understand were you are coming from But yes a Magna and then rallyart on top of that , yes that’s next level difficult 👍👍

@1969Risky Год назад

Great video on the brakes Sean. I still thought you'd be able to pick up the rear rotors like you can on Fords or Holdens. In regards to your question on the paintwork, I'd say do a closed door respray. A lot of the prep work you can do yourself. Have a chat to a spraypainter around your area and they'll tell you what you can do so it wont cost you an arm or a leg. Remember that prices have gone up on paint & sundries. If you're wondering what paint system to use, I recommend Baslac which is made by BASF. The results will astonish you, if painted well. Just look at the smash repair places & see if they use it.

@deanjohnson712 Год назад

Please paint it🙏love your work but that is doing my head in😁

@timbodedidleo Год назад

If you don't paint it , consider some choice decals & perhaps powder coating the wheels. Aiming for a racey look perhaps.

@pauljohns1016 Год назад

Good video

@the_real_superstickman Год назад

I can say that my dented, scratched, stone-chipped car (I put a few on there myself while the thing was off the road being used primarily for storage) is a nice thing to have as a daily driver, especially when my 4 year old is a bit overzealous opening my wife's car door into mine. Not having to worry about the exterior condition is a nice thing. However, having an 'enthusiast' car that looks scrappy tends to be looked on less than favourably. Dilemmas

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

I do like that aspect of it - you can enjoy the car and take it everywhere without stressing out. But yeah, could look a lot better.

@dasbsbih2491 Год назад

Hey mate, loving the content, just a tip when taking the calliper off, use a strong metal hook or wire and hang it from the shock, keeps it up out the way 👍 😀

@benbowles1014 Год назад

Sean, I really think the Magna deserves a bit of paint!

@MrRouguet Год назад

Very nice content. I'm a viewer from the Netherlands who currently owns an American version Mitsubishi diamante VRX from 2002, coincidentally black. I can get some parts for it here in Europe when searching by part numbers, but some parts are truly unique to the diamante/magna platform, like the rear discs indeed, had those shipped from the USA! I am however looking for a vrx bodykit from Australia as that market had a one off kit! A ralliart bodykit is out the question as they are so rare... Again awesome content.

@RypienGT Год назад

Nice to have some good stopping power again I bet.

@stephanburgess654 Год назад

Doing well and I will pass the info onto the ralliart guys I know

@PaddyBoy644 Год назад

Maybe try a home paint job or raptor line it? Great work mate

@HazeyAuto Год назад

There's something in this setup that, once reworked slightly and a rotor manufacturer sourced that could do custom units- to enable E-Series Falcons the ability to run AU- onwards offset wheels. Very intriguing.

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

I think the difference in offset between E-Series and AU is pretty big though - something like 30mm?

@HazeyAuto Год назад

Nothing some longer wheelstuds can’t fix… *Wink*

@JBurford Год назад

Nice video Sean, good information and a nice way of getting our struggles out there. The reason for the difference is that not many manufacturers made the Ralliart rear hats the depth they are meant to be and labelled and sold them as such. The rotors you had to try and put on your car are the AWD rear rotors which have the taller hat. A lot of people and manufacturers have gotten the hat depth mixed up over time. They just see the size and go, oh yep that's the one and order them and they don't fit. Hopper stoppers do make a spacer like yours so you can convert to AWD rear rotors (as nobody makes the correct Ralliart ones anymore), OR... upgrade to EVO 7-9 brakes all round like I and many other magna owners have done. Highly recommend you look in to look in to this if you don't care about keeping it 100% pure, it may also be cheaper than buying all those spacers :)

@chisel83 Год назад

Bit late now 😂

@RS-ve8nq Год назад

Could also use those spacers on the other side to change wheel offset. Some times BBK clearance only requires 3mm to get perfect.

@jasonwishart6800 Год назад

Can also space the calliper inwards using washers but like your solution as it increases track. Does make the studs a bit shorter though which may be an issue with some wheels.

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Nah, the way they mount up... any spacer will be spacing it outwards.

@MrButtonpresser Год назад

Good job. If you can't buy the spares, get 'em made! Try buying a new brake booster for an FG Falcon. Hens teeth.

@LifeSized101 Год назад

My back inner tyres are wearing down in a crinkle cut looking way. More puzzles and me Sable is going matt.

@mj_aussie_coaster_travels8310 Год назад

Definitely paint it. Huge commitment to the car though.

@michaeljones7497 Год назад

Your channel is really starting to grow Sean thanks for the great videos

@heathmurphy3735 Год назад

That straight face double pad lol

@MitchZero9 Год назад

Nice. Yeah got to paint it.

@hughh106 Год назад

The quality gets better every video Shaun!! Quick Q, what rags do you use?

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

I bought a 10-pack of Scott Shop Towels last time I was at Costco. They're just garage equivalents of paper towel you'd use in the kitchen. Pretty useful for little jobs like this.

@hughh106 Год назад

@@MotoringBoxTV Thanks! Will give them a look

@thefox6324 Год назад

I got my new exhaust on the vs sounds absolutely insane from the original put a chrome tip on and she's looking like a proper car just needs some surface rust repair on the fender and some paint touch up some nice ss rims hopefully vx or ve ones and she's done maybe lower it with some ssl kings and a bit of a cleanup in the engine bay look after that good ol series 2 ecotec

@peterassel562 Год назад

I'd be pretty sure the front rotor you show being fitted is for RH side. Normally the slots radiate outward as they pass through the caliper. Your one is opposite to that convention.

@zastavanaz4G18 Год назад

Hi there, you mentioned in the past videos that you managed to get rid of the headlight fogging by applying like some kind of plastic polish. Would it last as long as sanding the lenses down and doing a clear coat. My car suffers from fogged headlights after having the car for nearly 15 years. Keep up the good work!

@garrymcgaw4745 Год назад

🤣Ya gotta paint it bro...lol.

@ABL973 Год назад

Paint it! Be good to see the prep and result.

@JDMxChi_PizzaGuy Год назад

spread some anti-seize on that spacer next time, so it doesnt mate to your hub and be a PITA to remove in the future when doing your brakes :)

@michaelliberatore7228 Год назад

May want to check the direction on the front rotors. Should be the other direction like you did with the rear 🤙

@MotoringBoxTV Год назад

Shit, you're right!

@kingsleypurvis8707 Год назад

I personally would like to see it painted. To me, although mechanically sound, appearance wise to me, it would still seem to be a half finished and to leave it "patina" would not do the restoration of this car justice. If it was a 40's, 50's, 60,s car, with a clear coat over it, you could maybe get away with this. But this car is more of a modern classic, and I feel it needs to be finished by being painted. Perhaps, if someone with a Paint Shop business who maybe watching this channel, may like to help you out, in exchange for some extra publicity? I started watching this channel because of this project and my interest to see how the Magna progressed.

@rossmarzano Год назад

Side note: I make brackets that allow you to fit S550 mustang 6pot brembos to b series falcon. I'm sure you could fit a brembo kit from a evo or something onto this? Its handy if the stud pattern is the same though.

@user-vk4vd7vr5t Год назад

Front brake hardware is identical to AWD Magna plus a fair few other Mitsubishi models such as Evo 5 I believe. Front brake consumables shouldn't ever be a problem unlike the rears.

@EvolveAuto Год назад

Did you put the front rotors on backwards? The slots are going different to the rears? I always understood the install direction was correct on the rears. Meaning, slot would start against the hat and work towards the outside in the direction of travel.

@austiwollongongwolf Год назад

You can’t wait to get back to Falcons! Wash your mouth out!😂😂 Paint it of course. Great solution on the brakes. We know you love the car, admit it, Falcons yesterdays news!😂 Thanks another great video.