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Electrogenic has electrified the MINI, but has it taken away from it's mini-ness? Alex goy finds out.
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@chrissilman8495
@chrissilman8495 Год назад
The E-Mini is my enemy because it should have been called the Min-E. What a shame.
@ChoPi-Eww
@ChoPi-Eww Год назад
Or is it your enem-E? (E-nemy?)
@markbalancehealth
@markbalancehealth 3 месяца назад
@@ChoPi-Eww HAHA! full point my friend
@mcscootie
@mcscootie Год назад
For all the British watching, a hood is what we call a Bonnet, this American guy should have explained that
@Alnilam1973
@Alnilam1973 Год назад
Loads of people crying that classics are being converted to electric, having owned 2 classics myself, this is genius, reducing spanner time, breakdowns etc. Means I could spend more time driving and sharing my classic instead of hiding ina shed fixing it, shame about the cost but that will come down, range will get better. I hazard a guess that there are a massive number of classic car owners who would love to run theirs daily, this would allow it
@martinlaver007
@martinlaver007 Год назад
Couldn’t disagree more. The engine in that mini was it’s beating heart. Rip that out and you lose part of its charm.
@neckray
@neckray Год назад
@@martinlaver007 you don't need to hate one thing if you happen to like the other
@Alnilam1973
@Alnilam1973 Год назад
Oh please the original engine was almost as underpowered as a beetle, yes it ads character but I would gladly sacrifice that to have a classic daily driver, plus if the engine and associated pollution mean that much to you why not keep the original as a running display? An awful lot of classics end up at the scrapyard because owners spend so much on mechanicals they cant restore the rest as well as needed and they are only putting off the inevitable decay of the rest. Out of curiosity what classics have you owned?
@OdykKayne
@OdykKayne Год назад
@@Alnilam1973 I can understand that and I imagine most classic cars will have to be converted one day....but at the same time, if you put a modern drivetrain in a classic....is it still REALLY a classic? Sure, it looks like one and feels like one, but if it doesn't act like one, it's not the same as it originally was in it's time, so I'm torn on EV conversions. :( I honestly think I'm still with @Martin Laver on this one...plus the conversion costs are nuts from most companies. You mention the cost of restoring mechanicals...I can't see taking any older Mini in decent shape and spending $35k pounds like this conversion costs to get it running again in ICE form...and it would have more range than this! 0_o
@Alnilam1973
@Alnilam1973 Год назад
I'm not suggesting that all classic should be converted but there is a sizable pro column for it and there is always sustainable fuels or conversion kits like the rim wheel that can replace the non driven wheels and give you a hybrid that takes a few hours to swich back for your show day or sale time, personally the rim wheel is the most promising idea but all these techs still need maturing to see the drawbacks, maybe a combo of all will win out but alas I dint have the cash to even consider running a classic atm not to mention a restoration
@nathanb2100
@nathanb2100 Год назад
To be honest, classic cars like that Mini are more suited to electric power than something like a EV-converted Ferrari. Great review :)
@howarddavies136
@howarddavies136 Год назад
Did you see the electric Citroen DS? If ever a classic car needs electrification, the DS is it.
@nathanb2100
@nathanb2100 Год назад
@@howarddavies136 oh yeah I did :D. I think I read about in one of my car mags :)
@3ducs
@3ducs Год назад
It's no Binky.
@richardcarter1000
@richardcarter1000 Год назад
I love Mini's, still have two mk1's. £35k is crazy for the conversion, when mine do 40+ mpg anyway.
@ambivalentonion2620
@ambivalentonion2620 Год назад
yeah 35k is enough fuel for 221500 miles at current cost and that mpg, you could get get a straight cut gearbox and 100hp into an a series and still have free fuel for 150000 miles, definitely a ridiculous proposition and every mini needs an a series
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 8 месяцев назад
I haven’t watched this channel since Alex Goy left. Can’t believe he’s back and I seemingly just didn’t know. Mind blown! Looks like I’ve got some catching up to do!
@DJ_NOOB
@DJ_NOOB Год назад
My first reaction was how could you take out the little heart of a minti! But, you do make a good point about the vtec swaps.
@Gaidro147
@Gaidro147 Год назад
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@scottbowers7248
@scottbowers7248 Год назад
Yeah but a V-tech engine is even more raucous than a stock powertrain. An EV conversion simply make the car an appliance.
@ambivalentonion2620
@ambivalentonion2620 Год назад
@@scottbowers7248 every mini needs an a series
@andy00grant
@andy00grant Год назад
For the price of the conversion you could buy an electric car and keep your mini as it was meant to be.
@bznupe30
@bznupe30 Год назад
How does it feel when you down shift? Is that possible? How does the electric motor handle the tension being put on it? Thanks
@larssonk22
@larssonk22 Год назад
I remember seeing RichRebuilds build one out of his garage using a forklift motor, it could spin the wheels looked like hilarious fun.
@whosyourmate8292
@whosyourmate8292 Год назад
Not sure about that particular car/conversion but, I'm a big fan of anyone who makes a manual EV 👌👍
@leomux2004
@leomux2004 9 месяцев назад
​@@Gaidro147You don't fool anyone, mate...🤦‍♂️
@leomux2004
@leomux2004 9 месяцев назад
I'll be starting college next year and one of the projects that I want to try is a manual lightweight MR-layout EV, basically something similar to an electric Elise.
@GreatistheWorld
@GreatistheWorld Год назад
I love Alex Goy, and I adore This Car
@jamessheehy4895
@jamessheehy4895 Год назад
Film started very quick
@fisherengineering
@fisherengineering Год назад
I was so interested until you mentioned the price near the end. 😫 Oh well… I have three minis and would love to electrify one of them but never at these prices!
@Gaidro147
@Gaidro147 Год назад
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@leomux2004
@leomux2004 9 месяцев назад
​@@Gaidro147Scam.
@TheOz91
@TheOz91 6 месяцев назад
Coupling a manual gearbox with an electric motor makes sense because it enables using more affordable electric motors. Sure, the bulk of the cost of electric cars today are the batteries but then it would be the motors that use rare earth materials and complex electronics and control. Cheaper motors would be limited by speed and torque they produce, so coupling it with gears would make a lot of sense. Furthermore, motors like switched reluctance motors, while promising since they don't use rare earth and expensive materials, have little torque compared to induction and permanent magnet motors, but they are still efficient and coupling it with gears would make sense. That being said, 35k still isn't cheap. As other comments say, might as well get a new electric compact and then keep the Mini as it is as a weekend ride. Although, it seems that we are coming to the point where electric cars will become too expensive to insure due to significant danger of setting themselves on fire.
@Ginbaubabe
@Ginbaubabe Год назад
👍🏻for the usual high quality video from the Carfection team. Wrong mod for the car though
@StingrayOfficial
@StingrayOfficial Год назад
I can hear gear reduction happening before the transmission, right? No way it works without it since electric motors rev to the moon?
@kc550
@kc550 Год назад
A jacket and scarf?? When was this filmed..
@Gaidro147
@Gaidro147 Год назад
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@JLo1960
@JLo1960 Год назад
Should have a classic A series engine with twin SU's. Bah humbug!.
@Kyush4
@Kyush4 Год назад
a classic A in this day and age? g13b twin cam all day!
@_RobertS
@_RobertS Год назад
"Eeeeee - shift - eeeeee" Oh, ok, so that's why it's called an E-Mini then...
@Gaidro147
@Gaidro147 Год назад
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@samcs06
@samcs06 Год назад
Nice Merlin jacket. Looking at one to wear while riding my triumph.
@johnlake7530
@johnlake7530 Год назад
Looks more like a Belstaff trialmaster to me
@samcs06
@samcs06 Год назад
@@johnlake7530 true, they both have very similar logos.
@johnlake7530
@johnlake7530 Год назад
@@samcs06 agreed. Nice jacket either way!
@frumpd63
@frumpd63 Год назад
I'm sure lithium ion cells will improve the Mini's already stellar crash safety.
@malph9216
@malph9216 Год назад
Totally agree. I wouldn't like to be in it in an accident with all that extra weight (and the rubbish brakes).
@SusieSmart
@SusieSmart Год назад
@@malph9216 would you tell an 80kg passenger that they can’t come along because they weight too much? I mean that’s all the weight penalty is 🤷‍♂️
@oceanthirteen1628
@oceanthirteen1628 Год назад
It cannot be a classic Mini without the engine.
@iamspyvspy3077
@iamspyvspy3077 Год назад
how much ?
@Gaidro147
@Gaidro147 Год назад
👆👆Thanks for watching and congratulation 🎊you have been selected among my shortlisted winners. Telegram only to claim your prize 🎁🥰🎁.....
@Yesidoplaytheguitar
@Yesidoplaytheguitar Год назад
I'd love one of these. This is genius'
@kevfraser23
@kevfraser23 Год назад
stopped video at 'hood'
@automotiveaffairsshorts
@automotiveaffairsshorts Год назад
The plate almost reads: Bin Laden 😬
@United_Wings
@United_Wings Год назад
Old time but new🤔
@dochammer3047
@dochammer3047 Год назад
Did you know making one lithium battery creates more pollution than you driving an old muscle car your whole life.
@SecwetGwiwer
@SecwetGwiwer Год назад
It’s called a bonnet.
@peterbonnez
@peterbonnez Год назад
Yes, I was annoyed by that too.
@SecwetGwiwer
@SecwetGwiwer Год назад
@@peterbonnez yeah, I’m not trying to be an arse but it annoys me when we dump our language and culture because we worry about not being understood. Other cultures try to preserve their language, we should too.
@DrewHolli
@DrewHolli Год назад
So the electric mini is real! I only say this because its featured in horizon 5 as the mini Cooper Forza edition and this little thing is speedy but that's cool AF 🙂
@chrismason6857
@chrismason6857 Год назад
Love this concept even if the execution isn’t perfect. Every car guy should own a classic mini at some point. And this electric conversion makes perfect sense.
@6pistons
@6pistons Год назад
That's nice, now to add some "engine" sounds
@devilmaycare2809
@devilmaycare2809 Год назад
£35k PLUS vat, WTF! Sold to go around London, sounds about right as you must have money to burn if your going to buy it. The manufacturers of that soulless car must be laughing all the way to the bank.
@grandtourerpt
@grandtourerpt Год назад
You can buy a brand new one for less than that and with a lot more range. Or just buy an electric Smart (similar size and range) and buy an actual petrol Mini for the weekend drives. I don't understand the prices of these EV conversions that cost more than a brand new electric car with rapid charging and decent range.
@devilmaycare2809
@devilmaycare2809 Год назад
@@grandtourerpt The EV conversions are a money maker that's why they do them. Buy a 1994 mini (costing not a lot) then convert it and charge 35k PLUS vat as a starting price, KaChing! I totally agree that buying a new EV is the way to go although I also can see the interest in wanting a pretty silent old mini as a local shopping cart. It's the money they are asking for a crap range and speed mini that's bad, if you want a greater range or a faster mini then you need to pay even more, that sucks ass, unless your the company making them.
@M135iboost
@M135iboost Год назад
Very impressive, I’ve never owned one but worked in many original 1275s and they’re utterly brilliant. Or go full on and get a Vtec or shoe horn a V6 in the back. With classics I think we should leave them ICE.
@scottbowers7248
@scottbowers7248 Год назад
Part of the point of a Classic is the powertrain, the soulless nature of EV defeats the joy of Classic motoring, I have a Classic American muscle car with a 7.4 liter engine it is not really any faster in a straight line than my golf GTI daily, but the smile it puts on your face when you mash gas and hear the induction noise and the bass bark of the exhaust just makes me smile, in a way no EV can replace
@Max_Von_Dripplesnoot
@Max_Von_Dripplesnoot Год назад
Completely point less! Get it? But actually, it is pointless. Want an electric hair dryer then buy one. Would you convert a 1919 De Dion-Bouton to electric or perhaps a 1929 blower Bentley? I don't think so! Or perhaps get Banksy to give the Mona Lisa a makeover? Absolutely not! These vehicles are about Philistines trying to show how clever they are and destroying a classic car along the way. It's not big and it's not clever.
@benedictroberts678
@benedictroberts678 Год назад
100 mile range...so I can drive to family but I'll have to charge at their house before coming home. I dunno, doesn't sound worth the cost despite being a fun idea.
@totoianugheorghelucian488
@totoianugheorghelucian488 Год назад
3:12 I have a vacuum cleaner that sounds more aggressive than that, also I've seen this car before on a few channels, it's a shame a respected channel like carfection ended up promoting something like this..
@stephen_101
@stephen_101 Год назад
Electric cars, especially conversions with gearboxes make no sense - why keep the complexity of the gearbox and the discomfort of having the change gear all the time? And it does seem way to gutless. A fine engineering effort, but electrification should work with simplification.
@salvadorcombs1479
@salvadorcombs1479 Год назад
promosm 💔
@leightaylor806
@leightaylor806 Год назад
That motor is connected to the thigh bone, and the thigh bone is connected to the cheeck bone!! And so the way of the lord!!
@richspjones
@richspjones Год назад
NO
@davect01
@davect01 Год назад
Give it an electric motor and then hobble it with a manual gearbox?? Also branding, Mini-M-E Did he just say, $35k for the conversion. Yikes
@martinlaver007
@martinlaver007 Год назад
African or Indian elephant?
@mrmoran0077
@mrmoran0077 Год назад
Just no, the only acceptable electric vehicles are made by Kyosho and Tamiya 🙂
@shogun2215
@shogun2215 Год назад
Eh, for a car that'll be driving around London, a manual gearbox is a silly idea.
@PaulHojda
@PaulHojda Год назад
You realize you can just leave it in 3rd og 4th and forget it. You don't have to change gear
@davidbest1
@davidbest1 Год назад
Literally stick it in 2/3rd gear in a traffic jam and you don’t even need to touch the clutch
@Sajuuk9
@Sajuuk9 Год назад
Everytime is see a nice classic car getting these shitty mods my heart bleeds..
@3ducs
@3ducs Год назад
No. Just no.
@richieduck67
@richieduck67 Год назад
Not feeling it
@sirfairplay9153
@sirfairplay9153 Год назад
What kind of soy boy makes an electric mini that has the power of an electric scooter, why bother!
@SusieSmart
@SusieSmart Год назад
The donor car this uses had just 50hp from its 1,250cc I4 engine, so this will have better performance. I assume you missed the bit where he says they’ll fit a more powerful motor if you want and also the bit where he said MINI’s have never been about outright pace, they’re about fun.
@-Dash-
@-Dash- Год назад
BOOOOOOooooooooo! Not interested in soulless electric vehicles.
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@Kapil-Patel Год назад
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