CX 55 OLED here. I actually use my TV as my main desktop screen (with my old 1080 Samsung as a 2nd monitor). Almost crawling up to a year now, and I've avoided any sign of burn-in so far. But I use a slideshow setting for rotating Desktop images every min, a screensaver function when the computer is idle, and the taskbar is only visible when I access it, along with Windows dark theme instead of light. The TV is also set to default dimming, pixel shift, and turning off after 15 mins of inactivity. Combine that with switching between different windows/programs throughout the day that sometimes involve gaming, and I haven't had a single issue even with 18 hours of usage in a day quite often. So people shouldn't fear burn-in like some people would leave you to believe. Just be a tad mindful and you're fine, at least with LG TVs.
That is good to hear. I can honestly put in 1-2k hours on a game in a year and definitely fear burn in. I hear it is cumulative. As I. 8 days of 3 hours a day static image is the same as 24 hours straight. I'm still researching because spending this much on a TV with the chance of permanent failure is scary. I would want to have this TV for about 7 years for the price I'll be paying for it. Just thinking about trying to avoid burn in for that long scares me, lol
@@newt0n_ I had the same. I've also been using a CX 55 as my main monitor, mostly for productivity but also some gaming. I've been using it for about a year now and I don't see any obvious signs of burn in. I've been doing pretty much the same as Platinum Runner, no taskbar, short timeout. I also don't have any desktop icons and just black wallpaper. I do get a bit of image retention, but that fades in a few seconds and I only really ever see it immediately after I turn the screen off.
Great video. I have a C8 LG OLED from 2018 with a little over 4000 hours on it, almost purely gaming. I rarely ever watch a movie on it. My gaming is split between very old games (8 and 16 bit) and modern. I play everything from Wii and below on an emulation dedicated PC. Many hours on very old games that have scores present the entire time. Everything Ive played from around 2016 is pretty much posted on my channel. All the completed playthroughs anyway. I had another LG OLED in 2017, the C7. That TV went bad but it wasnt burn in. It got bad vertical banding that seemed to worsen. I never got any burn in. With the 2017 OLED when I first got it I accidentally left a menu on the screen for a few hours. That was the only time I can remember seeing temporary image retention but it faded out maybe within a few days and disappeared. Ive left menus and static scores for hours on this tv and never even saw image retention let alone burn in. I had panel brightness and contrast maxed since day one of using the TV as well. The 2018 model didnt have noticable vertical banding during normal content either, so that was great. They all seem to have it during greyish backgrounds if you really look for it. The only thing I noticed is that I have a few clusters of dead pixels around the edge of the screen but I cannot see them at all from my 5 foot viewing distance on a 65 inch screen, so its not something I would cash in my Best Buy protection plan over. Though Ive done over 800 playthroughs since 2016, a good bulk of them on the OLEDs, I do vary the games I play often. Not to avoid burn in, but just due to my restless nature. I think this works well for me with the OLEDs. I have had games that I played many hours a day for weeks but that is not the norm. Even when Im working on a 40 plus hour game I usually like to switch it up with some other games (old and new). I cant really say how it would be for someone who only plays one game, like some streamers or maybe even world record speedrunners who only play a single game daily. Using the TV as a desktop PC would seem very risky too, but apparently people do this. So far I love the TV and the low input lag makes it possible to complete alot of extreme challenges. I tested the tv right out of the gate with Mike Tysons Punchout and Metal Storm on expert mode for NES (on my emulation dedicated PC). That was the first time I got the round 2 TKO so the tv is also super responsive. Only in game mode though. I accidentally used another display mode once and got destroyed in that game. Im assuming most of the users with burn in probably either got a faulty display or play one game heavily for many months on end. I would reccomend anyone get the tv from best buy and get a protection plan to cover your ass. These new tvs can have all types of issues that crop up out of nowhere. Ive been through it with HD CRTs, Plasmas and the 2017 OLED so I reccomend putting out a few hundred extra bucks to get the protection plan.
I set my background to black, dark mode, hidden toolbar and a black screen as a screen saver. I would think having the pixels off as opposed to even a moving screen saver would increase the longevity of the pixels by a lot.
Having pixels off is actually the quickest way to get burn in. Say for example if you use your tv as an ultra wide instead of full screen. You will burn in the lit portion of the tv faster than the rest
Just resting the screen for a while doesn't help with burn in ! It only helps reverse image retention which is not the same as burn in. What burn in is, is the accelerated aging of the diodes, As they age their output changes. This aging effect is CUMULATIVE AND IRREVERSIBLE. So when your HUD goes back up on the screen, that aging simply continues from where it left off. This is the single biggest misconception about OLEDS. A rest doesn't do the long term degradation any good whatsoever.
Everyone seems to ignore this part. They hear "varied content" and your fine and think "ok, so I just need to watch netflix a little to prevent burn in". No, 1 hour on a static image 5 times a day is the same as that image once for 5 hours. Read that fine print a little closer. OLED looks good, but it starts degrading every time you use it.
This needs a little bit more of an explanation. In terms of "aging": OLED TVs have a headroom of at least 40%, according to LG Display from an information exchange in 2017/2018. By adapting the offset and gain of the TFT-OLED path, the current supply to "decreasing" subpixels is gradually increased. The Overall luminosity will not be reduced, but the (initially 40%) luminosity headroom. You will only experience a loss of luminosity when this approx. 40% headroom is exhausted (probably never). Example: 65C6 (from 2016) with over 16,000 hours of usage - not any reduction in luminosity validated by measurements. Check the rtings real life burn-in test. There you can see that there is no reduction in overall brightness. In terms of "burn-in": It is pretty important that the small pixel refresher (algorithms) are running regularly. There will be triggered every 4 hours of usage after the TV is in standby and they run for 6 minutes. Only when the headroom has been exhausted due to the increasing current supply to the subpixels according to the algorithms (or the algorithm is more and more "misled" by strongly deviating usage behavior compared to the stored assumed usage behavior), shady patterns become recognizable, which here are often called " Burn-in or burn-out "- and yet the overall luminosity output still does not decrease. The algorithm can be “misled” because the measurement of the TFT-OLED path (breakdown voltage, current saturation behavior at the end of the curve) cannot determine 100% of the change in the “current -> brightness” transfer curve. This is why the duration of the “on time” from a certain brightness per subpixel is counted between the algorithms in order to predict the wear and tear given an assumed average usage behavior. If the time intervals between the algorithms are often significantly longer than they would be automatically triggered (e.g. cumulative 8h instead of the planned cumulative 4h), then the assumed and extrapolated degree of wear in the forecast is no longer correct and at some point this leads to permanent shadowy afterimages, although the brightness reserve of the associated subpixel has not even exhausted. So, this information is 4 years old and OLED TVs got way more resistant nowadays. No wonder why LG gives you 5 year burn-in warranty (at least for the G1 in the US) and why they advertising their 48 OLEDs basically as gaming monitors, i guess they have little bit of trust in their tech. Nevertheless this is no free ticket for a carefree usage IMO. I still try to minimize the risk. Use a black background/screensaver/auto-hide taskbar/dark themes and let OLED run their small pixel-refresher regulary, i would say at least every 6 hours. This sounds like babysitting to many people but it just depends on your usage behaviour. I'm using my C1/C9 as i used my previous LCD displays, the variance of content in my case is natural given. I wouldn't really recommend an OLED for work stuff though, where you really use static images over a really long period of time. But I may be even wrong and underestimate the current OLEDs when it comes to burn-in resistance (just look at the guy in the comments here with 11k hours on his C9 lol)
If what you say is true, I don’t think I can get this. I was really looking forward to getting the LG C1. Would the Sony A90J be the next best gaming tv?
No Body Should Be Okay With " Beating Your Wife " If he was a huge name youtuber he would of had HELL TO PAY for a comment like that, and it came so naturally to him.. Anyone who would be cool with someone making "jokes" like that when Domestic violence is a HUGE problem! What a clown......
I wouldn't jump to conclusions, but at the same time it was a very rude, disrespectful thing to have to hear if you or a loved one has experienced Domestic Absue, which IS in fact a very big issue!
@@V1CT1MIZED Well yeah, when it's a motorcycle perhaps. This is a TV, wich is a static object. I expect it to work when I turn it on. Never heard of the term TV maintenance except for a quick dust off every once in a while.
I have the lg c9 it has 11k hours on it gamed super hardcore think about it 11k hours on it in just 2 years lol yes thats alot and no Burn in I always had moving images on and even huds didn't hurt it don't leave it on an image for to long and as long as you have movies or TV shows or even moving games you are good the hud seems to not effect them bad so thats good lol
That's good to hear man, I think if you left your TV on when you aren't playing it, like leave it on when you are away it would accelerate the chance of burn in.
11K in 2 years. Yeah that is hardcore amount of daily hours. That's 15 hours a day.. You must be unemployed to rack up those hours lol. Not judging but man. Well the good thing if you do not have burn-in after that amount of usage and 2 years it gives me hope that the new OLEDs like C9 and newer can handle burn in risk very well.
@@loki76 def not unemployed lol I am in sales from home and the 11k hours isn't just from gaming its from leaving the tv on movies and content I have it on pretty much all day that's how I got those hours fade2black posted up my the pic of my tv on his community tab just in case people didn't believe it lol but I also make money on the side with esfl and other things that have to do with gaming so yeah im for sure a hard core gamer I legit left my lg c9 on for a year straight without turning it off and had the screen saver on when I went to sleep so there was always a moving image and somehow out of all that I didn't get burn in the way it looks is I gamed 15 hours a day which isn't true at all I gamed akot but I I had it on content just playing when I got it I said well I may get a new TV in 2020 so why not try testing the burn in theory I ended up not having to get a tv in 2020 but now I want a new one since I do have this many hours it may not have much time left who knows lol
@@loki76 but I will not be doing this with either the a90j or the g1 whichever one I get will be turned off the new tvs getting brighter sure a new panel helps them but I mean with abl being not as high as before and other things I just don't want to chance it plus the next oled I grt I would like to keep as long as possible lol
I have a 2017 B6 OLED and it has suffered from horrendous burn in. The picture quality is amazing though and it will sadden me as ill have to go QLED next time
Another caveat to consider, is sports fans. Spending the entire week and weekend, watching sports on TV, can cause burn in as well from the score bars and crawlers on the bottom of the screen.
Good choice I returned my Fv43u for the c1 after finding out gigabyte only has 24gbs for its hdmi 2.1 ports instead of 40+. It’s also strange on the fo48u, it uses the c1 panel but still the hdmi ports have the same issue.
Ok. I'm subscribe to some people and they had an OLED tv for years and they said they haven't had burn in issues with their older models of LG OLED. They're clearly doing something to prevent burn in.
@@WipeoutXXXX can't wait for that time when we get rid of these stupid unreliable oled displays. I jst got a burn in on my tv today and lg said they do not cover display burn in under the warranty. If these stupid displays are so prone to burn in why cant they give us a panel warranty for atleast a year.
@Thomas Shears Trust me, OLED's are not worth it. The one thing you have to remember is that they are Organic LED's. They WILL degrade overtime. They WILL burn-in at some point. I see people going around telling others that newer TVs don't burn in or that it's not a problem anymore. It's all a bunch of lies. The same applies to any phone LED screen. Not only are they very hard to see in sunlight because oleds suck at getting bright, but at some point it will burn in. Honestly I hate the technology because it's basically a screen with an expiration date. Just more e-waste. Get yourself a really good IPS with at least 1200-1 contrast and call it a day.
@@locklear308 The new QNED TVs do seem promising, I will wait for a 4K 43" to 50" inch version tho, don't really want to throw down 3000 for a new TV. My Nanocell will do great in the meantime.
@@WipeoutXXXX yeah $3,000 for a TV it's just nuts. But seriously, as soon as they come up with a fully independent array backlight for an IPS panel we'll basically be golden 😎
Not only do we have to get used to shorter gaming sessions, we'd have to consider turning off the HUD that normally indicates status and health bar information.😢
“ You come home, you ignore your kids, you beat your wife, and you play video games for about 10 hours“ - this is the quote that made me subscribe to your channel
Burn in is also not truly what’s going on like old plasmas .. what’s actually happening is uneven pixel wear because the pixels are organic material they have a half life so static images and bright things will wear out the pixels in that said area quicker than a moving image… I don’t understand why they can’t use non organic material in the makeup of the oled pixels instead so this dosent happen it has to be all about money
Avoid it, i m counting on it lol got that 5 year geek squad coverage. New better LG OLED TV for $420 spent today in 4-5 years, ill have that lol. ILL make sure to ignore my kids n tell my wife to go make me a sandwich lol
I've had an LG55B6 OLED TV for about 5 years now and have played huge amounts of Red Dead Online and Division 2 and I have some pretty severe burn-in, especially of the mini-map at the bottom left but also of a bunch of other things, so I'm going to get a Sony X90J sometime soon. As great as my OLED is for watching movies at night, I need something different for all day gaming.
Samsung s9+. Severe burn-in within 6 months of the keyboard letters, now a year in and seeing black bars across the top. Autobrightness always turned on. Always had anxiety about burn-in, thought i was babying it. Never cranking brightness. Oled burn-in is real folks.
@@V1CT1MIZED Yes that OLED makes you poor because ppl spend their welfare money for these glossy panels. They wont even notice their black levels in the daylight.
@@needle3572 if you have a series x and chose qled instead, you made a poor choice. No dolby vision and lesser picture quality. Series x is a phenomenal console, you are cheating yourself by using a QLED. BTW, samsung is starting to make OLED again. Weird that they would make an inferior set????
Im pretty damn sure i got burn in from god of war had the tv for 3 years and never had any issues of course i only purchaced the 2 year best buy warrenty. Its not horribly bad you only see it on a red screen for the most part and its light and small but the fact its there just bothers me. Im running pixel refresher now im hoping perhaps its long term image retentioon amd the refresher will clear or at the least make it somewhat less noticable.
I own a 65 inch oled c7 after watching youtube on it from my laptop there is a permeant youtube symbol burnt into it. Also played ARK from Xbox on it and after only a couple weeks there is a huge red circle burnt into the center down below where the health sphere was. I find anything RED burns the hardest.
I've had multiple phones, 2 TVs and a monitor have this problem I used to work for a display repair shop replacing OLED screens It's usually over a period of years and conveniently It's right out of the warranty alot of times This happens to all OLED displays eventually It's inevitable there's no way around it It's a flaw in the screen tech When it comes to gaming I say for folks to use an IPS display instead
"kick off your shoes, ignore your kids, beat your wife and then come over and play video games for about 10 hours" this line was delivered so matter of factly. I love it XDD
Qled is just quantum dot for color still a lcd led qled is a Samsung term, while Hisense says uled.. and so on .. you forgot mini led,..direct lit, edge lit and full array, oled are the main types
@@Brandon_388 If you plan to use it as tv, it's fine. If you use plan to use it for a pc monitor and/or heavy gaming with games using static huds... not so much.
@@Brandon_388 incorrect. Using it properly is using it without thinking. Oled will burn in if you play one game only no matter what you do. Burn in is cumulative and unavoidable.
@ODIN Most people don't spend as many hours as they think doing just one thing. It can take upwards of 2-3k hours on a relatively bright image before it starts, more if you turn the oled brightness down. And it's 2-3k cumulative, it doesn't have to be all at once. 2 today and 2 hours tomorrow still equals 4 hours where burn in is concerned. That's why OLED isn't a great pc monitor choice... to many static images. Burn in doesn't bother me as much as ABL though, it's very noticeable to me and seems to be a big issue on a lot of games I play. That and the truly HORRIBLE whites. Snow should be white, not a terrible off white. People drone on and on about oled perfect blacks... and completely ignore just how bad white looks.
These OLEDs will go the way of Plasma very soon. It's just part of planned obsolesence. The manufacturers don't want you keeping a TV for years and years. This flaw will force you to buy a new one in two years.
Plasma. What is Wrong whit them i have a 16 year old lg plasma the image is so good. And im buying a lg oled. Because the newer model has so much more improved and fixed oled pixel. They should not get burn in the 2020 and newer. And if it does get a little burn in. It is only a specific color it shows on. And the tv will of cause stil work whit a litlle burn. Its worth the money. The 2017 and before is bad. It got better and better the newer the model got. I also have a lg v30 phone. Ist 4 years old now. It have absolut no burn in. And i use my phone evry day. Alot of RU-vid. Web browing. No burn in. Still looks stunning. About 6 hours a day probably even more sometimes.
How long do you guys keep a static image on screen? For a start, Burn in isn't burn in! If you disagree, watch Linus Tech Tips and he explains too. Burn in, in Oled terms, is pixels dying. What you guys are talking about, is image retention.... And if you are using an Oled released in the past 5yrs and genuinely are suffering from image retention, then you are doing something SERIOUSLY wrong. You would expect image retention, in a shop, cafe, bar...... places that may use Oled screens, and have BBC news on 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, year after year. Or people that constantly have Sky Sports news on, with the same graphics bars, same image all the time. But if you are a normal, working person..... Someone that watches TV in the mornings, after work and on weekends, you are fine. I work from home, iv'e had mammoth CoD sessions on my Oled, BF sessions, 6hr game nights or days. During Lockdown, constantly watching Netflix, Amazon, gaming..... I never had a single issue! Even now, i jam with the LG Oled 42'' C2 Evo..... That i use specifically for gaming, she is good as gold. If you have static images, or watch programmes with static logo's all day, every day, and have your brightness at 100..... Yeah, you'll run into problems, and those little organic pixels will die a fast death. But turn Oled panel brightness down to 65..... You'll double the life Turn contrast down to 75 Turn brightness to 70........... These are the settings for a perfectly clear, crisp, bright image given by LG themselves. Also all models since the C2's launch, refresh pixels automatically after every 4hrs of use. Sure, have a setting with higher brightness every now and then for certain movies, but if you use it as a NORMAL TV use.... You'll be fine.
@ODIN I just happened to have found the right settings, Im sorry to tell you that you or whatever indian tech channel you watched are dead wrong. Ppl are sleeping on the Nanocell because of 1. black levels 2. price
It will happen eventually does not matter if you let it rest change huds or whatever, oled have organic compounds in it that will degrade no matter what
If there is a warranty specific for burn in , it shouldn’t matter what you were watching that caused it. However since they do warn about it in the manual, I could see them trying to not honor the warranty for burn in issues.
Funny and some very good points there. Might also add to lower your Oled Light setting when gaming in SDR. Leave it at the peak for HDR, but for SDR gaming lower it to 40-70 range to keep that panel burn in free for the long haul.
Watched this on my 77 inch CX Oled, always watch vids like this even knowing the info . Thanks for the vid and that that intro beat is dope 🔥 and 🤣🤣 beat your wife
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I like your tats😁Nice video on OLEDs. I just bought an iPhone with an OLED and hope I don’t get burn in. I have an older plasma tv with a little burn in but thankfully only rarely noticeable. Maybe someday I can update the TV to an OLED.
Dude get a shaver and clean your underarms. Thanks for the vid btw. I play a lot of games and for the price tag I want a tension free gaming I guess I can’t play with a peace of mind to relax as i those huds are always there
Burn in is not the problem I had with my OLED. The set looked great day 1, amazing actually, but the tv basically has a living organic screen. By year 2 the tv had lost probably 30% of it's picture quality, by year 3 a mid tier VIZIO had better pic quality than my $4K OLED set. Just recently hit year 4 and the tv's quality was horrible and needed to replace it. OLEDs will blow every other tv out of the water for a year, maybe year and a half with normal use. Once you near year 2 is another story, that vastly superior pic quality will be on par with top end LED sets, by year 3 those top end sets start pulling ahead and surpasses OLED. Your OLED is actually dying with every minute it's used, at least LED sets will retain their picture year after year.
Lol. What an absolut nonsense. My two years old C9 looks exactly the same as day1. Give me only one source that supports your statement. OLED TVs have a headroom. The current supply to "decreasing" subpixels will be gradually increased. The Overall luminosity will not be reduced, but the luminosity headroom. You will only experience a loss of luminosity when this headroom is exhausted (probably never). Example: 65C6 (from 2016) with over 16,000 hours of usage - not any reduction in luminosity or loss in color volume validated by measurements. Check the rtings real life burn-in test. There you can see that there is no reduction in anything.
