Me: respect your mother kid, you’re not even considering her feelings about why she lied. I mean she did have you in prison because of him and he did ditch her. 😅
Little braty, if you ask me. I mean he’s not even considering the fact that Nael left her and it caused her to go to prison and have Henry in prison, like seriously could have some respect for your mother. 😅
Can everyone stop hating on henry. He is an 11 year old who just found his dad was alive when his estranged mother who he loves told him he was dead. Most kids scream at their parents for not letting them watch tv. He is the most understanding and one of the wisest characters on the show.
And he has the right to. But other commenters are hating on him. Emma may have saved him, but that doesnt excuse her for lying to her son about one of the few things that he craved to know. Especially as she totally understands how he feels
He should be old enough and be mature enough to understand why she didn't tell him. I mean what would you do if you were Emma? Yes, I know Henry should know who is father is, but considering that he abandoned Emma just because a wooded man told him to and considering it was Pinocchio and had already failed what he promised his father, he should've thought twice before listening to him. But personally I blame Pinocchio a little more.
I love the Rumple/Emma dynamic in the scene. It’s not one we get to see often, but it’s a unique relationship. We often forget Gold is several hundred years old and Emma’s denial of her love for Neal is just adorable to him😂 He’s the wise old man in the scene and it’s a good color on him.
They should have developed Rumple’s relationship with Henry and Emma more. They could have had an interesting dynamic. And TBH it would have been a better arc for Rumple after Neal died. Rumple seeing Henry as his second chance with Bealfire would have been such a cool arc.
@@lauraschoenborn3544 Neal should’ve never died and they should’ve never have made rumple evil again in season 4 and then again in 5 and then again in 6… I hated him after season 3… and his relationship with Belle
Henry's comment... I died laughing. Seriously, that is what happens when you have Rumple and Emma as bio relatives and you're raised by Regina - you become very sassy.
+Catherine Elmore Sassy is an understatement. in the underworld in season 5 he tells Cruella DeVil in a really sassy way that he is pretty darn sure she's going to hell.
Sassy yes, do I find it a little disrespectful that he’s talking to his mother who has a darn good reason why she never told him the truth. I mean seriously she was hurting you don’t get over your love literally ditching you causing you to go to prison, making no contact. I mean sure he had a good reason to but have a heck was Emma supposed to know about that 🤣
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 No good reason but it’s a reason and unfortunately it’s life, she’s not the only person who has done it and a TV show or in real life.
Honestly I feel for Henry here. People told me my dad wasn’t ready for me or didn’t want me, all because my grandparents were afraid of losing me and my mom, and my mom was scared of her parents. Turns out he loved me his entire life even when he started his own family, who also loves me as their own.
One of the few true Emma/Gold moments. Wish there were more of them. They see eye to eye in a certain way. That look in Golds eye at 1:35 though. :))) This might be one of the few legitimate, civil, personal conversations he's had with someone other than Belle and Bae, and it's about Emma, not himself.
Emma and Gold was a huge part of the show in Season 1. The show built up all these amazing pairings/interactions in Season 1 and 2. Now, it's more of a team dynamic where there's mostly a group of characters interacting, but it kind of dilutes the great character moments like this when you can have just TWO characters having a real conversation.
drlee2 Well, they had Hook and Gold alone a lot... also Emma and Regina. But yeah, the Gold/Emma conversations were the best. The big bad vs the saviour.
“I lied to protect him.” “I think you lied to protect him... you want a second chance with that man.” “What, where would you get an idea like that?” “The look on your face.”😂🤣😂 As evil as Rumple was, he had moments when he was super sassy!
@@lauraschoenborn3544 Rumple isn't evil. He just ain't bothered to use the darkest of methods to get what he wants. And what he wants is the safety and happiness of those he cares about - meaning his family but also Alice and Rogers. When Rumple makes deals he gives warnings and advises, he gives his clients a choice but still makes the deal if the client doesn't heed his warnings (which they never do). Rumple is a businessman afterall. At first Rumple liked and cared about Emma (in his own way) but she changed. She became just as bad as her parents and her pirate and because of Hook's influence she couldn't do anything but hate him after season 5a. She blamed him for Hook's death even though he would have died anyway because he had been cut by Excalibur. Plus how could he be responsible, Hook wasn't even the one supposed to sacrifice himself Emma was. And he didn't lie, he just didn't say anything. Just saying that after this change of personality from Emma, Rumple had reasons to not care about her, and so he didn't.
I wish they had more scenes like this now between Rumple and Emma. During the first three seasons I always felt like they built a sort of connection under these odd circumstances thrown between them. Rumple doesn't usually have a habit of being genuine with anyone... other than Belle and his own son... but in this scene you can actually see him get real. For a while it even seems like he becomes something of a mentor for Emma... but the writers kind of ruin that and every other decent connection Rumple has ever made later... :(
Supreme Overlorde Agree! I wonder what was in the writers mind for Rumple! Even If they still Have a lot of Idea, they don't know what to do with our main character anymore (But I still love this show and can't wait for next episodes😁)
Oh my gosh! Yes, yes and yes again! Rumple is so many things in Emma's eyes. A shady man who doesn't do anything without personal gain, a great tactician who can outsmart Regina in her own game, a slippery guy able to betray if it benefits him, an older person with more life experience. There were indeed moments when he acted kind of as a "wise old guy" type of character. Such as when he gives her advice about children in season 1, when he helps her understand herself after she and Mary Margaret return from the Enchanted forest, when he guides her through the process of displaying Pongo's memories. I really miss those moments in season 1 and 2 when he had normal conversations with the heroes before the writers completely ruined his character. Here, in Storybrooke where things are not just black and white, where heroes and villains live side by side, where his insanity and cursed appearance do not cause fear and aversion in other people, it was nice to see them talk as a human to a human
Totally. In my opinion the show failed to give us good writing and arcs after Cora Cora died. She was like the last really good antagonist and the show had so much potential. I really would've like to see more episodes of the "Finding Gold's Son Arc". Instead of 2x13-2x15, they should've expanded it and explore 3 worlds at the same time: the enchanted forest with mulan and aurora trying to find Phillip, storybrooke dealing with Cora and Regina and Gold, Emma, Henry and Neal in New York. I remember that I was so happy back then that the show gives us so much stuff at the same time and then it all just started to focus on the regular cast defeating the next enemy, who would appear all 11 episodes later. Once upon a time season 1 was like a close town, but season 2 kind of opened up two additional worlds at the same time: the current enchanted forest and the world outside of storybrooke but the writers just dealt with the main cast. They didn't even move on to explore the town storybrooke further, leading to plot wholes like Aladdin being already in town since the first curse..
@@onceuponatime2.051 You know what would have been an epic Rumple storyline? What if after Baelfire died? Rumple saw that he lived on in Henry. That would have made for very interesting dynamics. And it was obvious that Rumple always had a soft spot for Henry. He said he loved Henry but rarely showed it.
Honestly I find it a little annoying that he doesn’t see her side of things being literally betrayed by the person she loved and being sent to prison because of that while pregnant and then having the child in prison, yeah she had a pretty good darn reason to not want to ever think about him
Emma and Neal have Henry. Neal is Gold/Rumple's son. Henry's grandfather is Gold/Rumple. Rumple gave Regina the curse. The curse is what caused Regina to feel lonely and want to adopt Henry when he was a baby. Snow White is his grandmother, and Regina was Snow White's step mother. Now that would be a great Jerry Springer episode.
Henry loves Emma, but he's very hurt. When he asked her about his father she lied to him. She lied to protect him, but mainly she lied to protect herself. He's hurt and feels betrayed, he's lashing out like we all do when we're hurt. This is not something that one gets over quickly, Henry just needs time.
@@juliemcintyre428 please you really think 11 years old children are forced to understand,just because you're favoring someone?he's freaking 11 and a boy!he's not even at the age of property!doesn't know how a relationship between a man and woman works,not parenting,not sexual,hell not even romance!by not these kind of things how the hell he's supposed to see things from Emma's POV?he was lied to by the woman which he though is his mother for years!and his real mother was doing the same as well!
I’ve already commented on this but I have to do it again I love Henry’s little crack here I mean normally when people say that pizza doesn’t lie it’s just a metaphor for the kickass flavor that cannot be mimicked by any random asshole but here Henry added a double meaning He’s clever just like his entire fucking family
one thing ill give regina credit for emma lacks on tough on henry where regina handled it good even though she was evil she was a tough mother which henry needs he's a mouthy child that needs a slap
Whole time I'm like yeah . . . wow . . . deep stuff. Wait a sec, is he going all like "I'm hooking you and my son up" or is he just avoiding the weirdness . . . OH MY GOD not sure if I'm supposed to say "Nice one, Henry!" or " . . . SHE'S YOUR MOTHER. ish."
I like how everyone is hating on Henry!and don't consider even for a moment that he's just 11!boys on that age,are not even on the age of property!property is the greatest step in any person's life which Henry hasn't even started!he knows nothing about the way a man and woman do by having a relationship:parenting,sexual not even a teenage romance!by not knowing such a things he's really forced to understand?or see things from Emma's POV?and from what I seen in this episode,her POV isn't that much spectacular!"I'm lying because I want to protect him!"aren't these the same words which Regina used to say?wasn't that the same thing Emma herself accused Regina for?by having this kind of opinion,she showed Henry wasn't wrong at all!
DoverstarTJ Normally when people say that pizza doesn’t lie it’s a metaphor for the kickass flavor but in this case Henry added a double meaning He’s clever just like his Uhh Entire family
Sometimes Henry can be a real brat I like his character but in some episode he’s way out of line sometimes the way he talked to the charming Regina and Emma is really disrespectful and they don’t do anything the only person ever really disciplined him was Regina again I like Henry I just think sometimes the creators made him a real brat
They never raised him, it takes time to call your parents 'mom' and 'dad' when you've just met them. At most one may call them 'mother' and 'father', but it would be weird for Henry who is used to refer to Regina as 'mom'.
B'hahaha. All this scene tells me is some writer has a beef with New Haven Pizza - or maybe digging NY pizza? The Flat Iron building in the scene is about two miles from Wooster Street in New York City, yet the scene shows Wooster Street signage. the first Pepe's Pizza on Wooster Street in New Haven CT is world famous, named best in America, and a rival to NYC pizza. Just sayin: newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/22/new-haven-pizza-named-best-in-america/
SwiftsMorrison Neal’s just being the typical father It takes them forever to catch what their children are actually saying and by the time they do it’s no longer an issue There are exceptions but that’s only when there’s no even a hint of subtlety If I said that pizza doesn’t lie it’d just be a metaphor for the kick ass flavor Neal just thought that’s what he meant but Emma caught what he was throwing and was too shocked to say anything plus she understands where he’s coming from so she’s just letting him sort his shit out on his own