I noticed something this time that I had not before. The pained look on Rumple's face when Henry walks in. The realization that his boy had a boy of his own.....that he never knew about. Like a family curse, every son grows up without a father.
I actually think that that look was on Rumple’s face because he had just discovered that the boy that was his undoing, according to the seer, and that he intended to kill was his own grandson, and he didn’t like the thought of having to kill his own grandson.
Leigh Silver, and in walks the fruit of their Meeting. Rumple’s face when he points at Henry, “no need to say anymore, I get it now.” Rumple always is one step ahead of everyone else.
The thing that cracks me up about this scene is the fact that Henry literally called his mom Emma all the time but, of course, when the plot calls for it, he immediately calls her Mom lol
+DarthRushy Yeah, not even close for me. "Hat Trick" is a nice episode from Season 1, but best of the series? Especially compared to the AMAZING writing and acting in this one? Come on!
drlee2 To me, it's a run-of-the-mill Rumple episode. It focuses on Robert Carlyle, so it's obviously one of the best, but not THE best of his episodes nor THE best OUAT episode. I pick "Hat Trick" for that because it's the most unique and memorable. There's no other Jefferson episodes out there to dilute it(a la Snowing and Regina) and the Mad Hatter is such a great character that I can't put it out of my head easily. And it had some damn amazing writing and acting.
+DarthRushy Fair enough, but I certainly don't see how this is just a Rumple episode when Emma, Henry, and Neal all had major revelations and scenes in it. Run-of-the-mill Rumple episodes are more the like of 'The Return' or 'The Crocodile'. But 'Manhattan' was a HUGE turning point in the entire series and affected pretty much the entire cast of main characters, changing their interactions from there on.
drlee2 Yeah, but I want more out of an episode than character interactions. The story of Manhattan was: "Team goes to New York. Team meets Neal." That's it. That's not a perfect episode. That's why my favourite episode is Heroes And Villains, because that one actually has some big stuff happen AND manages to be equally brilliant with the characters.
@@mckayleem3098 He was surprised when Emma and Baelfire knew each other. But Henry walks in as if on cue. And he figured it out. Rumple was always the smartest. He conjured the adoption for Regina knowing full well that Henry was Emma's son. I wonder if he knew about Baelfire being Henry's father. The only thing that complicates it was being surprised by Emma and Bae knowing each other.
Tasha Thaweeshti Sounds like a typical Thanksgiving to me.Well, except in my family I'm drunk and avoiding eye contact as everyone decides to air their grievances for the year.
Everything is perfect in this scene. Perfect. Without a line of dialouge the characters convey everything they're feeling, be it Rumple realizing Henry is his foretold grandson, Neal realizing that he had done the same thing to his son that his father had, and Emma's worst fears coming to light.
Years later, this is still my favorite scene. ETA: Just checked back on this some more years later. Still watch it every once and a while, but I usually don't bother with the comments. Thanks for the likes! Of course, the acting is stellar, but this was also oz important to the plot, as established by that point. 2 years had been leading up to this, back when things were more planned out and cohesive. Here's some things I can point out that make this my favorite. I really enjoy 1:24 to 1:36. Rumple realizes first and gives a little finger wag. The shock probably silenced him long enough for Nealfire's realization. His impressive rage from just moments before had cooled. Poor Henry didn't get it until a bit later. The way he asked "Is that Baelfire?" was so innocent. Such a sharp contrast to the confusion and hurt he would feel shortly after. The range of emotions from Nealfire is great. The hand gesture at 2:19 is heartbreaking. I also really enjoy watching Emma the entire time. She was so much more resigned after Nealfire burst in, and she was already fairly guarded about having to lie to Gold. Probably knew this wasn't going to end well. The looks at 0:42 and 0:57 really cement it.
The acting in this scene is so good. From Henry’s delivery of his lines, and the way he slowly started figuring out that Emma lied. Rumple piecing everything together, and his anger. The pain In Emma’s eyes. And Neal was at his best with his acting, in this entire episode. The anger at Rumple, the anger and love he showed toward Emma, and the pain in his eyes when he told Emma how he found out. He hated leaving her. And the way he goes from yelling trying to figure out Henry’s age to immediate shock upon recognition and the immediate step backwards. Plus the chemistry between Neal and Jennifer was great.
I love when Neal busts through the door yelling 'Hey!' He's so determined to protect Emma but in the very next moment you see him thinking 'Crap! What am I doing? I'm confronting the guy Ive been terrified of since I was 14. Crap!' He's scared spitless but he steels himself and holds his ground because he's not going to let Emma suffer his father's wrath.
High King Margo I love how Emma very casually said “My son” knowing full well Neal was his father. Totally no big deal, just my son. “You expect me to be celibate the past decade” 😂😂
Rumpelstiltskin went from 100 to 0 REAL fast. He's like "well, I have drama with my boy, but it it's NOTHING on this... I'll wait." And breaks down silently as he sees his grandson went through losing his father just like Bae did and just like he himself did. And that Bae lost out on raising his boy for a huge chunk of his childhood, just like him... He does this when Neal dies, too, he turns his back to give the two of them a moment of privacy.
"How old are you" "Don't answer him" HOW OLD ARE YOU KID" "ELEVEN!! Now, WHY is everyone yelling!!" Emma rushing Henry into the other room telling Henry not to answer him was a dead giveaway.
*Me watching* Bae comes into the room Me: "Oh gosh" Mr. Gold asks how they know each other Me: "Oh gosh! Henry comes into the room Me: "Oh crud..." O.O Most intense scene EVER.
The plotlines are written like a soapopera. This tvshow is basically a fantasy soapopera with Disney fairytale characters. That’s why I love this tvshow; it’s very exciting.
This for me is one of the most powerful scenes of the entire series : Rumple finally reuniting with the son he let down only to find out his son ended up living a similar fate by not raising his child ; Emma reuniting with her one true sad love and wondering whether it was all just a big lie ; Baelfire reuniting with the 2 people he ever cared about and ironically, abandoned.
Oh my gosh, this scene right here. Bealfire/Neal pops in and he's thinking, "HEY! Don't touch my woman!" Seconds later, Emma and Neal make it clear that they know each other and he's thinking, "Uh-uh, wait a minute, ya'll already know each other?" Moments later, Henry's like, "Mom?" Rumpel and Neal are looking like, "Wait...mom?" Henry finds out that Neal is his father and Rumpel's looking like, "No! If I don't get a break, none of ya'll ain't getting no break!" The epic "a-ha" family reunion
They should put the scene when Charming and Snow find out. I love it when Charming says "Good thing we don't have thanksgiving dinners because that family reunion would suck!"
I love how brave Neal is protacting Emma shows how much her cares and Henry is just the cutest. Emma looks stunning here and the acting in this is just super wounderful love Once Upon A Time
I love how in 1:24 Gold is like "Oh, I get how you know each other" and "omg he is my grandson" all in one... as much as we knew Bae was Neal, this was the best reunion I've ever seen! I can't wait for Regina to find out!
Yeah, Rumple's face at 1:53 was so full of emotions..you could see everything he was thinking and feeling in that moment from the desperation to reconnect with his son, discovering that Baelfire fathered a child with Emma, the realization that he's Henry's Grandfather and the shock of watching it all unfold right before his eyes. I think Rumple can sort of relate to Bae in that moment of discovery because even though Rumple knew he had a son, mistakes of the past cost him precious time with him.
0:02 ... I love when Gold's voice becomes distinctly Rumple, it's a brilliant character choice when he shows the darkness really reclaiming him (or showing its true colors). Eee!
The yelling family... 1- The father-in-law yells at his daughter-in-law 2- The boy wants to help, but the woman yells at her son 3- The father-in-law and his daughter-in-law yell at each other almost getting into a hand to hand combat (I would've liked to see which of these two would've win in a melee) 4- The man storms into the room yelling at his father 5- The man yells at his father again, the woman intervenes and their relation comes to light 6- The old man yells at both of them 7- The boy gets in the middle and prompts the man to yell at him about the kid's age 8- The boy yells back at his father and the whole situation becomes an awkward, sad and intense moment Everyone yelling. Such a good thing they're family, otherwise that would've been like a WWE show if you ask me... and here I thought I was the only one who has such intense moments during family reunions, except that mine are real brawls sometimes... XD
"I came to make sure you didn't hurt her" "Neal" "Emma, I got this" Emma and Neal: *Awkward silence* Waiting for Rumple to realize that they know each other.
holy sht i knew emma was with neal, but calling her rumple's daughter in law just sounds super weird lol, especially because rumple is like over 200 years old and emma's just 28
I loved this scene! It was so sad but put together so well ;) when neal found out henry was his son and henry found out his dad wasnt dead and mr gold was just standing their all awkward.. Wow
I totally agree with you! I love this scene and can show it ever and ever again. I love Neals reaction and acting very much: "Is this my son?" And I love Neal and I hope they would come together again and being a family.
Yeah I really don't see that happening, quite frankly what Neal did was jacked up on a level that if she ever forgave that, she should be nominated for sainthood.
Except everything a character does is jacked up in this show. She forgave him because it wasn't is fault, it was August's and if she knew it wasn't about her and Neal, it was about the curse. I liked how this scene was done. It was the perfect amount of drama. Often times, when people do scenes like this where a man finds out he has a kid, they either make it too sappy where tears form in his eyes and he looks at the kid in adoration 2 seconds after he finds out about it, or they make it to dramatic where he gets angry and yells or something. Usually its the sappy reaction though. Neal's reaction is amazing because you can really see how he wants to be angry yet he sees how logical Emma's decision not to tell him was. He's angry but you can see that he's angry mostly at himself.
The casting was amazing! Not just the talent but how they really all looked so much alike. You see Henry's face, his eyes and they are so like Emma's and Neal's and even Rumple's when he's in pain.
What’s the irony of all this is that Gold put this whole curse thing in motion just to get back to Bae, and for 10 years he had his blood right there next to him. Even though Rumple is a menace, that prophecy was told to him about a child being his end, I still believe he would’ve watched over Henry if he knew. Possibly using him to get Bae back faster
Lol the face Emma and Neal make he told her "he got this" shows they both know letting Rumple grasp they already knew each other had a huge probability of backfiring and they screwed up.
Best part in the whole episode! I love Neal's face when he realizes he has a son. I hope Rumple doesn't do anything to Henry. He needs to forget about what the seer said. Can't wait for the next episode to see what Rumple will say about having a grandson.
absolutely love this scene! my absolute favourite from the entire OUAT series!!!. ..however, did anyone notice how only in this particular scene Henry calls Emma "Mom," whereas all the other time he is calling her "Emma..."...to make the scene serve its purpose I guess...lol!
THE BEST EPISODE OF THE SECOND SEASON FREAKING LOVE THIS SHOW IT DESERVED TEN SEASONS NEVER MISSED AN EPISODE WHEN IT WAS ON THE AIR JUST FINISHED BINGING IT ON HULU AND CAN'T WAIT TO BINGE IT AGAIN SEEN ALL SEVEN SEASONS LIKE 8 TO 10 TIMES NO SHAME😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
To this day, this is still one of my favourite scenes. Phenomenal acting all around. They really did an excellent job. I'm a CaptainSwan shipper BUT I'll admit SwanFire was cute back in the day.
"When you can see the future, irony is everywhere!" "The future is like a puzzle with missing pieces, difficult to read, and never quite what you expect." "Apparently, Fate has a sense of humor."
I have a theory about how Rumple found out before Bae about this in this scene : We already know that Rumple always was kinda friendly with Henry, it was the only time he was "truly" friendly and nice with someone in the town, without hiding his sympathy behind something, and it's not because it's a child, we've seen him behind far from nice with children, I mean it's Rumple after all, it's not because it's Regina's son either, he's not afraid at all of Regina especially not since she doesn't have her powers in Storybrooke at the beginning, it's because Henry always reminded him of Bae. Being the son of Neal/Bae, Henry has some of his features, and has the same light in the eyes, he also, during season 2 despised magic like Bae before him, that's why when Rumple said "how do you 2 know each other", Rumple clicked seeing Henry enter the room bc he already saw what he has from Baelfire before he even thought of living Storybrooke. That's just wow!
--scrolls through comments to make sure I haven't already said anything on this video-- --oh good-- I FREAKING LOVE THIS EPISODE!! I have watched "Manhattan" like ten times and I still love it!!
Rumple: You're gonna tell me or I'm gonna make you tell me. Emma: You don't have magic here. Rumple: I don't need magic. Uhhh, yeah, you do! Without it you're just a middle aged man with a cane. Emma is a bada** women who took down a dragon and worked as a bounty hunter kicking butt. Looks like Rumple would be the one who needs the help because Emma would kick his butt.
It also wouldn't be hard for her to just snatch his cane. Emma, with or without magic, is a bada**. Rumple without magic needs his cane and without it he's useless. unless he has magic.
Over the course of the series, we can observe the evolution of relationships in their family tree. Peter Pan exchanged his unloved son for power without hesitation. Rumpel really loved his son but showed a moment of weakness. And this moment became fatal for him. The only thing that separated Neal from Henry was ignorance. And only a whole curse could separate Henry from his daughter.
