Open Bar #59 - Barbenheimer Dominates, Snow White Doomed, The Marvels Delayed Again? 

As a woman, I'm pretty offended that Hollywood assumes our highest ambition in life is to tear men down so we feel better about our lot in life.

They should have named it No Whites instead of Snow White

"When a million Skrulls have been killing, and capturing, and subverting political systems across the entire Earth as an invading alien force, yeah, you might need to put your foot down a little bit!" That's such a British way to express this! Well done Mauler!

"Barbie has loads of heart" In the same way Aztec priests had loads of heart.

"Now I have become Ken, the destroyer of worlds" - Ken Oppenheimer.

With Secret Invasion, they completely rewrote the effects of the Snap ( I won't call it the "blip" because that's just stupid). Secret Invasion made it seem so traumatizing and horrific when we actually got essentially a first-person perspective of the snap with Wandavision where Monica Rambeau gets snapped. The effect? One or two seconds of weird disorientation and then suddenly she's back in reality again. No pain, no fear, nothing. Fury made it sound like it was this hugely traumatic experience when clearly the writers have forgotten we already saw what the snapees actually experienced, and it was nothing. They used the snap as nothing more than an excuse to beat down Fury and give a bs reason why he's a shadow of his former self. Problem is, the audience has these things called brains and within those brains are these things called memories, and we can remember what happened in your cinematic universe prior to the events of this show. The writers, however, do not, because Disney and Marvel actually forbid their writers and actors from examining the events of previous shows and films so they can't use it as a reference for their own project. Basically Disney is not only anti-audience, they're anti-continuity, even in the context of events occurring within their own show at the time. Is it any wonder that everything since Endgame has been a completely garbled mess that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever? When a studio is far more concerned with spreading The Message instead of making their bullshit content even make sense, is it any wonder the entire thing is circling the drain? Edit: With Rhodey, how absolutely disrespectful can you be to a character? If what it looks like is true and Rhodey was taken from the hospital after the events of Civil War, Marvel and Disney have made the conscious choice to rip that final, heartbreaking moment where Rhodey says goodbye to his best friend when Tony dies away from the character... for no other reason than to fail at a 'gottcha' moment in Secret Invasion. All of that growth during his recovery, and all of that pain from his loss.... absolutely meaningless, because it wasn't Rhodey, it was a skrull. F*** you Disney. (And I would have used the full word but apparently YT is afraid of the f-word and would likely taken down my comment if I'd used it, so F you too RU-vid)

I thought the same as drinker, the movie is to long. Then I realized Nolan wanted to do the Prometheus story. So he needed the hearings at the end to symbolische the hanging on the rock. Oppenheimer stole the fire of the Gods and gave it to the mortals who instantly abused it.

I had a coworker who I would say the Barbie movie was literally made for. A 3rd wave feminist type. She was disturbed by the Barbie movie, not because she disagreed with it's complaints or it's political ideology, but because she wanted to escape from the daily drudgery or worrying about feminist issues and instead just enjoy a fun movie.

Ken outselling Barbie being a threat to Barbie? Funny you should say that, as it was the women's side of Mattel that demanded She-Ra be produced as a girls toy side of He-Man....which coincided with He-Man's sudden drop in sales and the one and only line of toys that outshined Barbie at Mattel being destroyed. TLDR: Yes, Ken outselling Barbie would definitely be seen as an attack on Barbie.

Don't call it the Barbie movie, call it the Harpy movie.

Glad you brought up Clueless and Legally Blonde, far superior feminist movies from DECADES ago

Something that strikes me in the last two decades of "strong female powerful leaders" is that none of those stories really know what being a leader means. I always go back to Aragorn as a model of leadership in fiction: extremely powerful on his own, smart, resourceful, damn-near unkillable, but also kind, caring, protective and willing to go the extra mile to protect, save or heal others. ALL and I do mean ALL of those "strong female leaders" are vainglorious, self-important Mary Sues who somehow everyone admires, eventhough they showcase none of the essential qualities of a good leader. They're just about caricatures of the Reagan-era soldier, except with all the grease, sweat and testosterone flying around in those films, the writers never hid the fact that those characters weren't all black or white, and they managed to add substance to them. The new Mary Sues have NONE. So when you hear Snow white as YET another retelling of that story, it's hard not to raise an eyebrow in contempt.

I salute you lads for taking one for the team. It takes a lot of strength, courage, and resolve to endure the torture that is Barbie. Thank you for watching this "movie", so we don't have to. I feel so bad for you lads, but still truly grateful 😅

The same type of women who enjoy Barbie are the same who loved Twilight and 50 Shades. They're borderline, histrionic women who voted for Biden.

I'm just hoping the M-She-U will become the Ken-C-U in the near future.

I just recently watched the Shrek movies, and I’d rather see a movie featuring the chatty girlboss Snow White from those rather than… whatever Disney is making right now.

At this point I watch more RU-vid content about how bad Hollywood is than actual Hollywood content

With all discussions apart, I feel sorry for Garry to being on sobriety and had to watch guys chugging pints of alcohol. I'm with you man. Be vigilant lol

the way the Marvels keeps getting delayed. it almost seems that everyone was so repulsed by Captain Marvel that when the Marvels gets closer to being released the combined disgust bends reality to push it further into the future so it will hopefully never be seen.

Isn't it about time to bring out the word "misandry"?

I agree with MistressKen, the part of Oppenheimer after the bomb was my favorite as well. The political plays were the best part. and showing the game. a game oppenheimer was caught in but never really wanted to be in.

With regards to the scientist raising concerns about the use of the bomb during the war, there was in fact a few who objected to the use of the bomb, especially once Germany surrendered, but the majority of the scientists (and the US People in general) were running in metaphorical hot blood, having watched 6 years of constant war (13 years in Asia), with reading of cities being bombed and obliterated having become familiar news like the weather report. The dropping of the first bomb was greeted by the scientist with joy. It was the dropping of the second bomb that startled Oppenhimer and some of the other scientists as they began to think about what this meant beyond the end of the present conflict. That bombing they (the scientists) saw as pointless slaughter. In contrast the US people were still in hot blood till like the 60’s-70’s, when everyone could appreciate the Pandora’s box that had been opened in 1945.

"Snow White" is a German fairy tale, first written down in the early 19th Century, and now known widely across the world. The Brothers Grimm published it in 1812 in the first edition of their collection Grimms' Fairy Tales

Weird to see gal gadot sound like a independent Snow White is something ground breaking when mirror mirror came out like a decade ago

It's cringe to see women complain about terrible men while also trying to out-terrible the men at the same time.

Love to see Master Samwise here! His videos are excellent.

No Country for old Ken

Barbie movie perfectly encapsulates the level of self-awareness women have in general.

"I have become Chad, destroyer of virginity." ~Nolan's Oppenheimer probably

And now, here's... Human sex scene. "Hum ! Human sex scene... I like it !"

This is one of my top Ken live streams.

Just the fact that there is limited screens as to why MI is low balling. Cinemas are just having to use them for the 2 big movies. MI just shouldnt have opened a week before two heavily marketed movies

The most hilarious act from these postmodern directors/writers is telling people what the intended message is and isn't. Almost the entire core of that branch of philosophy is that there are an infinite number of interpretations to an infinite number of stimuli in the world and all are valid. This concept was initially applied most heavily in the study of Art, Photography, Literature, and Cinema. So, they make a deconstructed film in the name of postmodernism and then tell people the singular view they should take on it. Cool cool... very logically consistent...

You forgot the tag nerdrotic's channel in the description

I loved First Man, I thought it was fascinating. Though I can totally understands Mauler's take, that's why it flew under the radar.

“It’s like a serial killer in a Pikachu costume, on the surface it looks friendly enough. But, underneath is something sinister.” -Drunk Ken (paraphrased)

Can’t wait for the Sequel: Barbie 2 The rise of Kendrew Tate!

Well, maybe George R. Martin will finish The Game of Throne novels now!

I was one of the people that thought this entire movie was a parody/satire. Like it couldn't possibly be this over the top feminism/anti-men and be serious

I think it’s hard for a man in their 30’s to resonate with Barbie. Women tear themselves down, and deep down do not trust men as a ‘collective’. I am NOT surprised that their BIG movie for them was pretty toxic and bashed men. Feminism is toxic, BUT this is for women, it’s NOT for men. Men are simple, pretty straightforward, and want an easy life. Women hate women, love drama and bitching (in fact I would 100% say bitching is their fav thing even over a nice bag)…. I don’t mean this in a horrible nasty way, it’s just the vibe anyone with awareness can stand back and observe this.

How to get Captain Marvels blood??? Shes a woman, once a month comes that time when... You get the point.

Why aren’t more people grilling Gadot for saying the same shit RZ is saying? She is older and should know better.

Armor Wars could redeem the "Rhodey as a Skrull" story line if it allows Rhodey to really deal with everything he missed (like Tony's death) in a real, honest manner. Don Cheadle could really flesh out the character by showing the anger and greef of it. All leading to him going out to try to preserve Tony's legacy via Armor Wars. All of this of course turns on the writers, so I don't have much hope at all.

I wonder if this latest Nolan movie will be streaming this Opptober?

Time stamps would be nice

Saw oppenheimer in IMAX and it was amazing, but I feel like they focused too much on certain points in his life, and not enough on others. For a guy who is famous for his work on the Manhattan project, they spend a LOT of time of the film focusing on other things. I also wished they looked more in the moral aspect of the bomb because I think they could have done a lot of interesting dialogue there.....I will say thought, that when the bomb dropped the entire theater jumped it was that loud lol

Snow White and the 7 cats and bottle of Chardonnay

I'm also kind of suprised by some of the reactions for Barbie movie. Okay, I was expecting that a lot of people will like it because it's a crowd pleasing movie, but holy crap... people and the mainstream media actually think this is an oscar-worthy movie. Like... seriously? Barbie is a good definition of a movie who thinks that the audience is so stupid it needs to be lectured every five minutes with some very shallow and oversimplistic feminist preaching. Nothing in this movie is groundbreaking... the acting was okay at best, the plot was extremely predictable and formulaic, the characters were onedimensional and the whole "social commentary" was surface-level self-indulgent bullshit and kind of hypocritical; you shit on men for 90 minutes but in the end you're like "equality is important". Sure. The sad thing is; Greta Gerwig is a talented filmmaker, but it's pretty clear she loves to kiss Hollywood elite's ass.

Saying Snow White is doomed is premature. There are scores of absolutely awful movies that made tons of money.

DAMN that intro WAS CLASSY AS FECK BOIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love the show mates

I agree, cultural revenge… this is it. The viewer expects equality being stressed but is constantly disappointed in this and other modern Hollywood movies…

Oh YEs, Please Drinker recut barbie with a Ken story, it would be hilarious and then you would need bodyguards because the matriarchy would put out a contract on you

I just wish we knew exactly how much the memes helped to boost interest for both movies, it's really cool if it actually made a difference. Although I do hope hollywood doesn't try to instigate an artificial version of this phenomenon for movies in the future, memes are fun and all but if the actual movie turns out to be trash there's no internet miracle that can save it, we must never forget Morbius, one of the rare movies that got released in theaters twice and BOMBED twice.

Didn't Mattel make a Barbie that was dressed in a Playboy Bunny outfit? If not, maybe they should.😁

The feminist stuff like this and she hulk kind of make me wonder if it isn't just the most deadpan criticism of feminism. Almost like it's saying feminism is great, but in a sarcastic voice. And then when you ask if they are being sarcastic, they say no, sarcastically. But if you ever treat it like it's sarcastic they'll chastise you for not listening to them when they said it wasn't sarcastic.

People like Nolan are likely on the spectrum. Human interaction is analysed to a fault and characters end up more wooden and cerebral then natural. However that type of detail-oriented brain lends itself well to world building and story structure and can become self-indulgent, as you said Nolan is. Putting in lots of details and making it work is a fun challenge to us.

Guys, crucifiction is one of the most torturous ways of dying, and it can go on for hours.....

Mattel turned ken and he-man into cucks, what are they going to do to wwf and Jurassic Park

The time of the Drinker has come

1:37:20 - I Agree with that point about Hamill. He feared he would be crossing into dunning-kruger territory. At every level it was just wasted though. I feel sorry for him. It's kind of similar to bringing someone back from the dead, just to publicly guillotine them :( How do you kill a story arc so badly that there is no story to begin with? $$$ /emperor laughs in the background - f off

It's nice to know that no matter how many of these streams we get you can always count on Waylon Bucephus to leave the least funny superchats in the world.

Wait, Rodhey was never at Tony's funeral? Fuck that noise, they were buddies.

What is with Nerdrotic who doesn't hesistate withinserting spoilers? He's toxic and I had to cut off as soon as he came in.

The smashing Babies scene would have Pol Pot drooling.

I wonder do many of the lads have an alcoholic drink during the show? Or before?

Its fine to dislike the movie even though its a success, but it would have been nice if they had been able to analyze why the movie is a success and has a huge audience that loves it. Unlike Black Panther it isn't part of a juggernaut franchise. Its the biggest movie the director or principal actors have ever done and looks like its going to be the biggest movie Warner Brothers ever made. At the very least I think the costumes, set design, music, and tone/style could be looked at instead of just an analysis of whether they liked what the movie was trying to say. There's lots of movies that maybe I agree with their message but that does not make them good.

The blue collar guy is lifeless. I don’t even know why you would have him on, he literally gave no input on any topic, I’m sure there’s other unknown RU-vidrs that actually deserve the help.

Not sure why anyone here wanted to even see Barbie, used to love killing my mates sisters barbies though

No matter what anyone says, I think Gerwig snuck a movie that lambasts both new gen feminists and alt right manosphere at the same time, and y'all are missing it. The biggest character arc in that movie is Ken's, that's how he also escapes the notions imposed on men in general.

I wanted to see Oppenheimer’s rap smack down of Thanos. That was a miss on Nolan’s part

It's really great to see you highlight a small channel man. I respect you a lot for it, it goes to show you don't have an ego and you just care about the ar for art's sake.

If I were on the panel, I would want the moniker "Bro Ken" 😎🇺🇸🖤

1:39:15 if they are powered by radiation then why not put them in chernobyl? No human can live there till the year 22,000 anyway.

Saw Oppenheimer in a packed matinee at 11 in the morning and it was around the halfway point that I released my wife and I were some of the youngest people there. 99% of the crowd was people so old they likely remember the actual bombs. Also we've now gotten Oldman to play both Churchill and Truman....Gary Oldman Stalin when???

I hope this means the end of shared universes.

Met Karen Gillan and she is so charming!

if these movies are a "therepy seesion" for woke, feminists...then this podcast is for all who 'wanna be whinners' about it.

Citizen Ken

"How I wish that I had a daughter that had skin as WHITE as SNOW, lips as red as blood and hair as black as ebony." Some time later, the queen dies giving birth to a baby daughter whom she names Snow White

It was a enjoyable film . You are taking it too seriously. It’s in the same tone as anchor man.

Sounds like the Riftracks intro.

its amazing how much sheer incoherency STILL SELLS. is it really just the people who make this shlock when it's selling out? peace sells ...

Ken wasn't supposed to be a disliked villain a la Cal Hockley or Gaston. He wasn't an obstacle in Barbie's main storyline, he had his own subplot that he was the anti-hero protagonist of and he was given an ending where he grew and overcame his obstacle, which was that he had no identity outside Barbie. The viewer is meant to sympathize with his predicament and pain if not his actions. The Kens taking over and getting put down was the climax of his story, not Barbie's. When Ken is onscreen we mostly see him from his own perspective, not Barbie's (partially because Barbie doesn't think about Ken much). Barbie's journey culminated in her meeting her creator and becoming human, which would have happened whether or not the Ken subplot was going on.

1:45:15 This is exactly the problem we have with globalists, and also the solution.

The Phantom KENace Attack of the KENs ReKENge of the Sith The KENpire Strikes Back Return of the KENi The Force AwaKENs The Last… ah, screw it

people who said that Barbie would bomb because it was woke need to admit they were wrong. in fact, they need to re-evaluate the whole "get woke, go broke" idea. instead, they're showing they've learnt nothing and a predicting that Snow White will fail

Why are movies soooooo long???

I saw that Twisted Metal show it kinda sucks though Sweet Tooth is awesome and wish he would get more screen time

's no white

It's not "the movie is so bad is good" anymore, now it's "the movie is so woke is based".

The Barbie Horror Picture Show:The Bride Of Ken. 😂

EXCUSE ME. Troy doesn't have to be a guilty pleasure at all. It is an amazing movie and a great adaptation of the story.

I dont know how u call urself a reviewer if u dont get the meaning is role is reversed. Male in Barbieland is females of RealWorld.

blue collar ken needs to adjust his lighting...lol. he looks like he is in the middle of an interrogation. the reason they showed so many scenes from so many levels is so when you get to hear the convo he had with einstein.

Drinker get Jonny Law on.....NOW mate...

Best series before the woke era that isn't The Sopranos or Breaking Bad is Sons of Anarchy.

Congrats to all of the guests’ recent success!

Oppenheimer was really great, but damn, yeah, 3 hours was a lot. Just convinced me that I *could* sit through a 3h movie if it was really good. I also enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies Extended, but yeah, they're also ... long ... But cemented my decision to NOT sit through fucking Wakanda Forever. Still haven't watched it, probably never will. Doesn't interest me a lot as is, the 3h runtime definitely killed any chance of me watching that movie. Yeah, Florence Pugh's character, that whole arc, could have been shortened imho, seemed a bit indulgent, mainly for the boobies. Not gonna watch Barbie. The trailer almost tricked me, but the reviews since then revealed the movie for what it really was, not gonna pay money to watch that.

The bomb is necessary and we should continue to explore more powerful versions we're going to need it when we go into space