Open Bar #92 - Rebel Moon 2, Ministry Of Ungentlemanly Warfare, Deadpool 3 Saves Marvel? 

To Warhammer 40K fans: Do not negotiate with terrorists. Do not give the mouse the cookie. It will never stop

In the first Suicide Squad AT LEAST that bar exposition scene is motivated by the fact that they just had a big revelation on the nature of the mission, everyone's pissed, they want to quit, argue, and Harley is pretend psychoanalyzing them and calling out everyone's bullshit while making drinks. As meh as it is, you can argue the scene has a reason to exist Rebel Moon just goes "we need to tell our backstories now, I'll go first".

It's not "how much coal does the Dreadnought need?", but rather a question of "Where does the oxygen for the combustion comes from in space?"

I honestly thought they were taking the piss when they said the spaceship was run by coal. WTF Zack.

Critz, and Mauler are basically my Siskel and Ebert now.

I was expecting Snyder to borrow from other sci-fi properties. I didn’t expect him to borrow from the comedy genre, but there’s no mistaking the Knights Who Say ‘Ni’ aesthetic.

I liked the opening facts bit, some chill fun to start out the show! :D

This is a really good crew, great chemistry

Congrats on 2 million subs, well deserved! Now sit down and binge watch BANSHEE you will love it!

Yeah… nothing can save the MCU. There might be a couple decent offerings, but you can’t save a rotting corpse, especially when most of the other people involved are still stomping on said corpse. In the five years since Endgame, I liked No Way Home and mostly liked Guardians 3. 5 years. Wow.

The only thing I dislike about Open Bar is that these aren't on Spotify.

54:05 is when Drinker celebrates 2 million milestone!

I'd pay real money for a dvd commentary of Rebel Moon (all 12) with these guys and Zack Snyder recording it together.

The closest i came to watching Rebel Moon 2 was Disparu's review😅. Hell I didnt even finish watching the first one.🤣 Thanks for taking one for the team!❤

Nothing like an Open Bar re-upload on a Sunday night!!! Very good stuff it was.

A space god taking offerings of coal? Sure, let's go with that.

Could you start adding timestamps?

Another really nice panel; Disparu and Echo are always very listenable.

Love the history revisit intro. Great way to start things rolling. Can’t wait for ‘94. Definitely a top contender for the best year in human history… seriously. Yes, bad shit happened, but the western world was at the peak of living in a very distorted bubble of peace and prosperity.

Damn this panel was almost perfect -- missing only The Little Platoon!

I can only imagine the disbelief that old school producers and directors would have knowing that 100s of millions would be spent on absolute drek in the 2020s.

"Gatekeep the shit out of your hobby!", well said my man.

#1: Rebel Moon 2 is an embarrassment of a movie. #2: MOUW was an ok action movie that felt like an Inglorious Bastard rip-off. #3: Deadpool and Wolverine feels like a love letter to the fans 5 years to late; but it will still be box-office gold. 🎉

Don't care if DP3 is the best movie ever made, Disney aren't getting my money. Fuck them. Also congrats on 2m Drinker! Well deserved!

I will say of Rebel Moon, a lot of the stuff looked kinda cool. The tanks, the guns, some of the ships, had kind of a cool aesthetic. I know that hardly redeems it, but it does occasionally give us some cool images.

I like this setup, especially appreciated the factual & deep contributions from Echo Chamberlain.

Rebel Moon is what happens when someone explains WH40K to a normie whilst both people are Glasgow levels of drunk and 1 of them thinks they're talking about Star Wars

Someone should make a skit where two guys go into Snyders office when he is writing a new script and one guy gets him in a a full Nelson while the other throws his laptop across the room and you see it smashing in slow motion.

One thing that bothered me the most is how Kara kills all the medical workers on the ship trying to save their lives proving she is still a vicious villain. She didn’t even fight her brainwashing to NOT kill the princess ! And only regretted it afterwards ! This should be called BROWN HARVEST as a rip off of Blue Harvest

And keep in mind that Bush throwing up was so funny that it was mentioned in the Simpsons during the good seasons.

50:16 - Clannad?! Now the Aussie is a man of culture, I see.

55:00 The beginning of The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, conversation.

2:08:00 Christ i couldn't stop laughing referencing peak simpsons. When Willy takes off his shirt he's JACKED haha. God i miss that show. Deep cuts boys

Big congratulations on hitting 2 million boys. Well deserved. Keep up the excellent work we love ya

1:23:45 It's wild to think that one movie is somehow going to undo the rot inflicted over several years of mid-to-trash movies and storytelling. Their overall reputation is tarnished (to put it mildly) and people aren't going to just flock to the cinema after one good movie. The MCU needs a reboot, not a single movie fix.

Any time Maully does a stuckman impression, i laugh myself into a heart attack.

For those who don't know, the Deadpool villain is Cassandra Nova, Xavier's sister. When their mother was pregnant, they did an ultrasound and found she was having twins. When they did another ultrasound a few weeks later, they discovered that in this version, Cassandra had resorbed the other fetus. It is to believed that the tissues has made her stronger. She has the strength of a grown woman and a little baby.

2:36:51 - Mickey screwed up with his neck tattoos! He had his artist put "LOKI" on his neck without clearing it with the producers/director. They knew Loki was going to be the Big Bad (Mickey didn't), so they had to CGI the tattoo every time it showed. But it was on his front right of his neck, which meant they had to do a *lot* of CGI!

If cinemas want to survive … they should just show old movies. Imagine .. a cinema chooses to show ‘Predator’ .. or ‘galaxy quest’ … they’d pack the place. They have a massive history of movies to show.

The Stuckman impressions LOL LOL. Dead on.

I guess you kind of have to admire these gentlemen talking for over an hour about a movie no one else saw and still maintaining an audience doing it.

maybe its not coal it's Nibbler's poop from futurama

Facts don't care about your feelings: We want Facts!

Regarding Batman & Penguin, Danny DeVito will always be my Penguin.

The choice of younger actors to play Superheros is getting thinner and thinner, men are being pushed to become effeminate with low-T, look at The Flash it's disgusting, they have to use the older guys, no one will replace them eventually sadly.

Congratulations on 2,000,000 subscribers Will ! What time is Open Bar on now ? GMT is fine. Still trying to work out how to join your channel !

When Drinker asked what the name of the Admiral in Rebel Moon was I was really hoping somebody would say “Francis”.

2:27:00 No, even the coal-fired spaceship in Rebel Moon 2 was not original. Farscape had a starship powered by a boiler. On screen, the owner was shovelling dolls into it to burn, but it was very clearly established that it runs on just whatever combustible crap you might have on hand, including coal. Even in Farscape, it didn't really work very well (was a low point of the series), but it still mostly worked, due to Farscape's tone. It doesn't even slightly work here.

1:52:50 totally agree blood meridian should be left on the pages, and their passage he references here is the stuff of nightmares

Mel brooks do a comedy with Ann Bancroft about world War 2.

Regarding two timelines. That's what I felt when I watched 24 season 2, where Kim Bauer rescues a child from her abusive father, and is on the run from both him and the police department. That plot line has nothing to do with anything, and feels forced in cause Cuthbert probably had a contract, and they had to come up with something for her to do. They take care of that in the third season by having her working at CTU.

Joss Whedon should have written and directed Rebel Moon. He would have done amazing sci-fi with that budget!

I've not read it, but there's a science fiction novel called: The Wooden Spaceships. and In Isaac Asimov's Foundation series, didn't some of the remnants of empire use coal to power their spaceships and the Foundation were held in awe as they used nuclear power?

1:53:05 At Close Range is actually a film i happened upon when watching/listening to/singing along with the Madonna song that features clips from the film. It's on my Watch List now. FWIW, Carl Weathers was NOT in any episode or movie of Thunder in Paradise alongside the Hulk.

Nobody has DAS BOOT as one of their favorite WW2 films? Surprising. Clint’s films, Where Eagles Dare and Kelly’s Heroes are guilty pleasures too

Maulers silly voice at the very beginning just made me think "damn... get Professor Tosspot back on" hehehe

Good openers today! Some pre game drinking to open the bar.

They needed to ferment the grain from the planet to get the ship to go faster.

🎉 Congrats on reaching 2.000.000! 🎊 - Cheers! 😎🥃

Having not seen Rebel Moon 2, the funniest part is that it doesn't even sound like they're describing a coherent line of thought while they're talking about it.

Pretty random and old but would love to see the movie, "Time Bandits" discussed.

You guys should do a watch party comparison of ‘Battle beyond the stars’ and ‘rebel moon’.

Ironic of drinker to say Ryan can repeat a joke one too many times when he has a lot of videos of tyrion puking meme played 20 times PER VIDEO. Took him long enough to realize that shit gets old real fast when you overplay it.

The Cargo fight scene reminds me of the Revenge of the Sith opening fight scene with R2-D2 and the Droids. It seems like a knockoff or steal of an idea scene.

1:33:54 There definitely are movies that are worth paying extra to see in a theater. Godzilla Minus One got my wife and I out to the theater for the first time in more than two years, partially because word-of-mouth about it was positive, and partially because it looked like a worthwhile spectacle.

The problem is - it's not even a Big Mac with truffle oil! It's the plastic version which they use to make commercials! It has no taste, no substance and no sustenance. It's literally an illusion - a poor imitation - with a bunch of different stolen assets from a bunch of different movies... like a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle where every single piece is from a different jigsaw. He then puts it together with a hammer smashing the pieces into place and then goes "LOOK! ART!"... It's INSANE that people are still giving him money to produce this trash!

Sh!t I remember 1992, and everything you guys said brings back memories. Geeze, Thanks, guys. Best thing about that year was Last of the Mohicans, Just Saying...

Another classic 😂 congratulations on 2 Million Drinker

I've always wondered, and please help me if there is, is there a movie where the protagonist is tricked by the baddies into working for them where there's little or no clue that he or she is working for the baddies? I've seen ones where the audience can see the screw job coming. I just think it could be interesting to write a movie or show where you truly believe they are the good guys until the evil reveal. TIA.

Grain aficionados of the world unite!

Regarding the coal powered ship. That's so crazy, I don't think even Terry Gilliam would come up with that, but then again maybe he would. 🙂

I wish, like _REALLY_ wish, we could have seen more of her in her Cleopatra costume 😭

Maybe they're not shoveling space coal. Maybe they're shoveling space-god chow into his feeder.

I found Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare to be a breath of fresh air. It was nice just seeing a guy movie without the nonsense.

23:12 "Admiral Whateverthefuck his name is" 😂

Zack Snyder might have stolen the idea of coal shoveling. I vaguely remember that there was a Star Trek gag reel that had Scotty shoveling like mad. So, Snyder's important concept is a gag that Star Trek only filmed for the studio crew.

Apparently conveyors are too high tech so they have to rely manual shoveling.

upon watching Zack Snyder's 300 again, i saw there were endless fields of grain in that movie as well, in several scenes, i thought there were but had to confirm, guess he has a thing for grain, kinda think there are grain fields in his superman movies too.

The visuals of Rebel Moon remind me of Serenity and Firefly. Maybe this is one movie series where Joss Whedon would have been the better choice

Zach got the idea for the coal powered ship from Red Dwarf: he didn't understand the opening line in the opening theme and thought "coaled outside..."

2:06:00 Drinker: "we've been conditioned to expect visual spectacle" that, my friends, is why every movie has to cost 250,000,000 😢

I watch these guys to find out what bad shows/films I shouldn't waste my time on. The dilemma is, when they have these in-depth discussions, I wind up having to watch the bad show/film so as to appreciate what they're talking about.

please discuss "Shogun" !!!!!!!!

It wasn’t coal they are shoveling. It’s Niblers poop from futurama

I can't wait for Snyder to make a film that's 100% in slow-mo.

"U-Ship?" oof!

Don’t forget the robot is just the robot and character from transformers combined. The robot was a ninja and protected people etc. same robot just with his voice

Iron man 2 is when the Skrulls swapped out Rodey but you were all too racist to notice.

Best performance by a WWF/WWE star is Rowdy Roddy Piper in They Live. End of story.

The reboot Stark Trek movies were far better than the Rebel Moon garbage.

Schindler's List is the most ridiculous, unrealistic fiction to ever be put on screen. That atrocity of a film did more damage to the public's understanding of history than Captain Marvel did to the MCU. Hearing these guys praise it is severely disappointing.

lol the New Zealander playing down Dune for LOTR...wonder why xD

I love the mixing of Science Fiction and Fantasy elements in worldbuilding. However, from what I've seen of Rebel Moon, the world does not feel like a fantasy world that developed space tech like Spelljammer or a science fiction world that unearthed fantasy elements like Warhammer 40k, it feels like a kid mashing fantasy and space toys together. I have a similar, if significantly less severe, criticism towards Final Fantasy 15's worldbuilding. It wants to have a world where magic and monsters are seen as normal, but the Americana elements of Southwest Diners and Gas Stations directly clash with that. How do people stopping at an unprotected gas station not get mauled by the Dinosaurs across the street? It's just two surface-level aesthetics crossed together.

The best '92 fact is, obviously: I was born. I like that Mauler pronounces Gunnar "gooner".

I hope Blood Meridian is at least 80% as dark, disturbing and violent as the book. I'll be watching

The only word that ever truly matters ...... 2:11:58 😅😅😅

Sounds like Rebel Moon cribbed coal fueled ships and living reactor fuels from Doomtrooper/Mutant Chronicles and the old PC game Starflight

Prayers for TKD Guy.

Scenes regurgitating earlier, better films tend to be DEI screenwriters who haven't paid their dues, learned their "craft" reading TVtropes, and haven't the slightest idea what they're doing.

Cheers