The channels gain up very differently. Both excellent. Channel 2 gets out of its own way a little better at gain (and is otherwise always more dynamically compressed than 1).
I had a Marshall DSL 100 once. I decided to try a Rockerverb mkii 50 at my local guitar store, with a Dean ML. Needless to say, I sold the Marshall and I went with the Rockerverb mkiii 100w half stack. 😊. Does everything I need and some. But damn, the Orange sound just did it for me. I just love it's thick sound more than most amps. I use to be all about the scooped mid high treble sound for thrash and metal. Now I prefer the versatility of these amps. I'll never go back, even if the prices are, a bit high. There's just something about these amps.
@@castleanthrax1833 play with bands. Metalcore/post-hardcore/melodic hardcore type music. Also the 100 watt head was on sale and cheaper than the 50 watt head. I’ve got lower power heads that are more difficult to use quietly. The power scaling, built in attenuator as well as my two notes captor (as a -20db attenuator) means I can use it from very quiet to as loud as I’d ever need.
I bought an AD 30 a few months and I keep everything at noon with gain on 1 or 2 PM. I usually mainly the 1st channel, I put a Keeley Compressor in front with everything also at Noon and i play a Trad Les Paul. The sound? It's HEAVEN
man I never realized how good the AD30 sounded till this demo! I got an OR15 and absolutely love it for overdrive, even the clean is nice, but god damn the AD30 seems like it could cut through any mix and still have the orange flavour!
@@DelScully It truly is great! The Rockerverb gets into more Marshall territory, but the AD 30 is the most versatile of the bunch. It is incredible in the room and recording! You can dial in VOX tones, Marshally gain on the 2nd channel, but everything has that Orange stickiness. Plus if you dime the master and put barely gain on, you get this great compressed clean sound that is super nice with a tele or cleaned up Paul.
I've had a Rocker 30 head as my main amp for about 13 years now. Decided to finally expand the Orange collection and added an AD30 last week. Everything at 1 o'clock, both channels. Sounds unbelievable! Never had an amp sound so great with such bonehead simple settings. Why did I wait so long? Already thinking about the OR30... 🤦♂️
All of them sound amazing, just different tones. The OR50 definitely has the most classic Orange sound, the AD30 has the most Marshall-ish tone (not as low mid heavy as the other two) and the Rockerverb is something in between and probably the most versatile.
If you use the footswitch to take the master volume out of the circuit, the tonal difference of the OR50 is amazing. It becomes a single volume amp with great overtones.
I have the AD30, this amp it’s unbelievable, the true vintage Orange sound with 2 different channels, i think it’s this amp that is closest to the tone of the first Orange amps.
It’s one letter from AC and you idiots always make the comparison to a Vox. Completely different circuitry to a Vox or a Marshall. The Orange tonestack is tuned to provide a true flatter eq with all controls at noon and that’s why I love it because it’s only a matter of pairing it to your favorite speakers and it’s plug and play. You can’t do that with a Vox or Marshall. Vox has a completely unique circuit with a tone cut in the power amp section, a normal channel, and a channel with a bright cap that attenuates low frequencies. Marshalls and Vox’s also have weak EQ controls besides the Vox tone cut, they don’t change much of the sound whereas the Orange feels like a real EQ harkening back to the Baxandall tone stack. Even better was my OR50 with its presence control that adds its own gain to the power section. The same as the CS50. The OR50 was Orange’s best all around rock amp but the AD30 was second coming of Orange and will be around as long as the exists.
Rockreverb sounds amazing, but... the custom shop uff in a mix its more easy for mixing more clarity, the three amps are amazing, I have a fender custom shop 57 deluxe but the custom shop orange sounds amazing
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos check out a 5r4 rectifier. Takes the hair off just right. Cv4004 are truly worth the money, as are tung sol el84s. AND alnico blues or g12h30s in a vox v212bn or bnx. The orange cabs are durable but not sonically as good. At all. Burlap grill also eats treble for an appetizer. This is my secret tonal recipe; don’t share it. :)
i bought a RV50 mk3 couple months back... its similar to these sounds but in person the EQ range seems larger somehow.its quite bright if u lower the bass and push mids and highs. and the clean channel has a wider range as well. sounds barely seem to change here, stil awesome vid, thank you :)!!!
I'll take all 3. Although, the C50 is muddier. Could be the choice of guitar. I just getting ready to write R3 (built in attenuator!), AD30 and C50, then I heard the C50's cleans.
The CS50's EQ works quite differently from the others. If you turn the EQ knobs all down, the amp is silent. At higher gain levels, it requires a different approach to dial in. With gain cranked to 3 o'clock or above, I usually have bass barely on, mids somewhere between 9 and 11 o'clock, and treble to taste, depending on cab and guitar.
As others said, boosting it works great. A little finicky which one though. I use an SD-1 for almost everything when I boost, but not the AD30. It already doesn’t have a huge low end, and the SD-1 cuts too much low for that amp. I’ve found that the 1st gen Jekyll and Hyde OD section works amazing, and believe it or not an MT-2 dialed in very neutrally on the EQ is a great boost for the AD30.
Ad30. Least congested and clearest. Has to be best in a mix and out of the way of the bass. Other two are both off the ideal in their own ways; having one of them necessitates having the other to try to get to the ad30 but still miss.
the built in attenuator on some Oranges (including mine) isn't an attenuator in the widely understood sense, e.g. it won't get your power tubes cooking. It's a master volume located after the phase inverter tube but before the power tubes. Orange doesn't do much to dispel the myth that it's some kind of power soak, but it's not.
The Rockerverb does nothing wrong and it can just about do everything too. I love the AD30 for it's compression however, all of the Oranges are great amps. I just wish they brought back the OR50. The OR30 doesn't do it for me. I want the simple layout of the CS50. I don't know why but amps that sounds great with less controls are a big win for me. I had an OR50. I loved the big EL34 push. It could drive two Fane loaded Sound City 4x12's harder than my friends 100 watt Marshall. Orange ftw.
Can you elaborate on why you say the OR30 doesnt do it for you compared to the OR50? Have you tried both? I did recently, and I was leaning towards getting an OR30 mostly because 30w is perfect for me, and also effect loop, bright switch, etc. But it's true that the OR50 is a tonal monster too. Might love it more than my Rockerverb mk3 combo somehow, hard to explain. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts!
My Marshall It feels like all adjustments are either on 1 or 10 because the knobs hardly do any shaping. My orange just moving from 1 to 3 feels like moving to 10 on the marshall
I own all three of these amps and I have to say there is something wrong with how this is recorded. The CS50 is not capatured well here. There should be a way more noticeable change in tone when the HF Drive is turned to extremes and it is barely noticeable here. Maybe youtube compression is at play, and yes, I am using high quality headphones and youtube settings. It was also a disservice to leave it at noon for most of the gain settings.
I like them all in their own way. Cleans on the MKIII are stellar. Still, I stick to my Rockerverb 50 MK1 head. I love the 4x6V6 configuration, more than the EL34's on the MKII. These amps are so musical and can cover many styles. Mine has seen many many gigs and only let me down once. The tubesocket components are not that great, so maintenance is important.
@@underhated3317 Honestly, there is not that much tonal difference between the MKI and MKII. Personally I think the MKI is a little smoother, but maybe I'm biased because I experimented a long time with preamptubes. It's also not only about the output tubes. The circuit layout/tonestack has a major influence on the final result.
Borrowed the MK3 to make this video so don't have it anymore. I compared it just for myself with the MK1 very quickly and the difference is very small. I prefer the MK3 which has a touch more balance in the mid-range 👍
