Ordo Machinum! The Inquisitions Special Agents To The Mechanicum Of Mars! 40k Lore 

*Mechanicus:* "Can we have inquisitors?" *Inquisition:* "Sure, why not" *Mechanicus:* "WEEEE"

I was planning a Dark Heresy campaign where a magos becomes corrupted by a possessed STC. Adding the Ordo could be interesting

One small Ordo we've encountered in our games of Rogue Trader, is the Ordo Chronos. Because we kept getting copied by warp jumps and having to Highlander the copies, the inquisitor just left a team on our homeworld to handle the usual song and dance paperwork when it inevitably happened again.

One of the other less-well-known Ordos is the Ordo Chronos which deals with timey-wimey-ball stuff. they were introduced and then shortly de-introduced after the entire ordo disappeared all at once. In the short story _The Pharisene Paradox_ It's hinted that the Ordo's disappearance was something they themselves initiated in order to undertake some mission.

The toaster Inquisition, no bread will be untoasted and it shall always be golden brown. Burnt and hard bread is pure heresy.

Id love to see the Ordo Sinister brought back into the fold. Their war machines were so grimdark and terrifying. My RU-vid avatar has been their sigil/logo since the day I joined RU-vid.

Personally, I love the fact that the Mechanicus has their own internal Inquisition: the Prefecture Magisterium. It was mentioned in the Horus Heresy campaign books and appears in a Wrath & Glory campaign. I wonder what relations between the Prefecture and the Ordo Machinum are like. I assume antagonistic.

The potential for stories is staggering.

A Magos bringing about "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" in 40K is something I want to see happen now.

I like the niche organization and small scale videos (like the Severan Dominate), please do more.

13:20 "It might create tomatoes the size of basketballs. Or, it could create tomatoes the size of basketballs...WITH TEETH!!!!"

Arch, there has been 3 Inquistion codexes, Witchunters and Daemonhunters, and 7th eds “Imperial Agents” codex, which was a grab bag for Sisters and every other Imperial one-off unit (assassins, etc) using the Inquisition to weld them together.

Inquisitorial Mechanicum agents? Now that is really interesting. The concept alone is very intriguing, and learning about them is even more so.

When 10% of your job is looking for tech-heresy 30% is confiscating toasters and 60% is scratching out every instance of 'Machine-God' and replacing it with 'Omnissiah'.

According to the Lexicanum, the Ordo Machinum was mentioned in Codex Inquisition and WD457

I would think the Ordo Machinum does more policing on the Imperial side making sure that technology gifted to them is not being missused as to keep the alliance between the Machine Cult and Imperium of Man in good standings. Ordo Hereticus, Ordo Mallus, and Ordo Xenos already stare into Mechanicus affairs enough that there isn't anything for the Ordo Machinum other than any hints of Abominable Intelligence. Otherwise they are just Space ATF.

Because of the technical nature the Inquisition would likely have to almost exclusively recruit from within the Mechanicus itself. The internal politics probably make that a much easier prospect than you'd initially think.

Just wanted to say between you and Lutien and this massive 40K binge I’ve been on, I finally pulled the trigger and tried Dawn of War. Haven’t gotten too far in it but damn have i forgotten how much I missed the RTS genre. Also, The Siege of Vraks is one of my favorite audio dramas I found on RU-vid.

Speaking of the Golden Throne being an amalgam of Eldar and Imperial tech, the latest book in the Siege of Terra series, Echoes of Eternity, describes the very human way they attempted to bend the Webway to thier own ends, and how "hope this shit works, seems to work for now, repair shit when needed" 'temporary solution' the experiment was when Magnus charged through the Webway and damaged it. They literally tried to force a stable pathway by bolting psycho-active, overlapping, riveted metal mixed with wraithbone, to make a more "physical" tunnel out of the... Esoteric realm, where your focus and wants determines where in the webway you end up. Needless to say, without the beautifully brutalistic "stabilization" method of the webway, trying to march a bunch of clueless soldiers or civillians through it would be an exercise in futility. Vulkan even wonders to himself if it would've worked, with so many myriads of humans trying to unconsciously affect the passage. Would be like making a tunnel out of loosely (single peg) connected lego plates when trying to twist, squish, rotate, elevate, descend, loop, straighten, expand and contract it at a whim. Pieces would start shooting off the rest of the plating awefully quickly. Edit: it also seems that the purpose of the Golden Throne was not just to open and close the portal to the webway, but to stabilize the material. And I would assume this material is still in place quite a 'distance' into the webway. So with Chaos growing stronger over the last 10 millenia, this might be consuming more and more psychic power from the Throne, hence increasing the hunger of the Astronomican and Throne over time.

So according to Lexicanum the Ordo Machinum where in White Dwarf 457 and the 6th edition Inquisition Codex and that is it... So much world building potental here

Some day I hope we get a really, properly, gritty and grimdark 40k-story about mutated tomatoes who rampages across the imperium. Like its 40k at its edgiest and darkest.

"Let's see if this blows out a piece of the planet or not. Failure is instructive: Let's learn something!"

I hope we get a "Codex: Inquisition" in 10th edition. This just makes me want it even more!

Such a cool and interesting Ordo gets so little attention...It's almost a crime!

There are certain Magos that won't deal with anyone unless they have augmentations in some way. That has been touched by the holy machine. There is a really cool book by Black Library about a Raven Guard that gets in some shit during the Martian civil war all because he got told by Corax to go get trained to be a tech marine now that he like 3/4 machine after a Tyranid assault gone bad.

Mechanicus: the imperium couldn't survive without me! Squats: sup. Mechanicus: oh no.

“Subtle” is definitely the word I would use to describe the Inquisition… Maybe the more subtle and thoughtful inquisitors are exiled to Ordos Machinum. That’s my new head canon!

13:24 I wonder if Arch thought his "tomatoes with teeth" was an original idea, or is he aware of the obscure movie franshise called "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" ? Either way, this sounds like a plot for another AotKT movie! Attack of the Killer Tomatoes 40k. Starring Henry Cavill? People would be made if this was the film he did on 40k 🤣

Just makes the theme from "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes 🍅 " play in my head, one of my favorite bad movie series from the 80's.

5:55 2 soldiers found an stc for sharper knives, their reward? they were each given a PLANET 13:55 AAAAATTTAAAAACKKKK OF THE KILLER TOMATOS

The imperium should just hand over any stc they find to belasarius cawl. I am pretty sure he can reverse-engineer every stc in his coffee break 😅.

Really entertaining obscure lore ,you always deliver Arch

That piece of lore could be the missing piece to a duology of books around the Admech called 'Skitarii" and "Magos" SPOILERS an attack on a DarkMech world fails and regular Admech Explorator Magus in charge deploys a tech found on the world that is basically a big warp bomb, it backfires spectacularly, the DarkMech world basically becomes a daemon-world and the forge-world of the admech that initially ordered the assault falls to chaos before the strike force finds a way back home. The second book is bizarrely open-ended, but it's obvious the imperium/inquisition will catch up with the techpriest eventually, ordo machinum would have been pretty nice to see there

the potatoes example would (I think) fit perfectly with some "Lamas in hats" reference, "But Carl that kills people"

A single obscure reference in a codex years old then proceeds to ramble on for 30 minutes. I though I could go off on a diatribe. That is impressive Arch

My favorite part if your channel are these kinds of videos where u get super detailed.

For note, Inquisitors were in the 6th Ed Grey Knights Codex. The book had profiles for known Inquisitors, Retinue agents, and even had the long-forgotten Artificer Power Armour profile for Non-Astartes Agents (2+Armour Sv, 6+Inv Sv). I, had a metal Inquisitor with a Power Sword and Boltgun, which is still one of my favourite models!

I wonder do people at GW have people watching videos like this and going..."wait...we have this in lore? interesting I will have to look this up, this might be useful"

awesome vid. Only arch could get so into mecanicum inquisition lore so hard

Ah finally. I was beginning to wonder if it was really Friday.

Hey Arch, Have you ever thought of showing off your minis? I want to see how good you are at painting.

AHH Arch. I had not but now do have an explenation for the GREAT but woe fully underrated classic. ATTACK OF THE KILLER TOMATOES

The M34 Tomato Wars were some of the bloodiest in Imperial history.

I wonder if the Adeptus Mechanicus suffers from ork snipers too.

I would suspect that the ordo would get its recruits from the Mechanicum itself.

If they're so special how come I've never heard of them- BAM

It is mentioned briefly in the first book of the Tech priest of Mars trilogy.

Honestly, I imagine the machinum aren't mentioned all that much because they don't act in the same memetastic ways that the inquisition normally act. I imagine they are less the exterminatus engines that we see in the other ordos, and instead largely bureaucratic in nature. They are the inquisitors that negotiate jurisdictions, extradite heretics, and notify the mechanicum's own internal police forces when they aren't doing their jobs and some random magos just teleported his forge into a neighbor's moon. Sure, sometimes they do some rad shit and pursue heretics in the name of the omnissiah, but since most of these inquisitors are probably ex-priests themselves, they are probably more inclined to keep mechanicum secrets in house and not air out their "stalwart ally's dirty laundry" for the whole imperium/inquisition to see…

Ancient quotation from old Terra. "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer!"

Basketball size tomatoes with teeth.. going to have every Ork crawling up to that agro world looking to strike it rich.. that's basically a money tree at that point.

Holy Emperors teeth, i l8ve your sense of humor and delivery. One of a kind.

Great video man , i know ppl said it a lot down the comtn but you got amazing voice .

Yeah, you mentioned that Rogue Traders that delivered one of those (and the example was a better knife) were paid in planets.

Makes sense, imagine an inquisitor needing ship repairs but having to wait centuries. With the ordo mech they probably get stuff faster

arch:this is a tiny piece of lore me :oh must be a short video (checks video time )

Minor faction lore, the juiciest faction lore.

Another cool and interesting video from Arch. The Ordo Machinum is a cool mini faction of the Inquisition.

Always a pleasure to listen to you sir. Thank you for doing what you do :)

_immediately starts hearing Mechanicus OST - Children of the Omnissiah in my head_

Interestingly the way the Imperium runs economy bears some similarity to North Korea's "Military first policy"

Maybe you should do a book on these guys Arch. Seems here that you probably put more thought into them than GW has.

Oh, is that how "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" happened? XD

The Mechanicum is probably my favorite Imperial Faction. It's just so my cooler and has so much more going on than any other single faction.

My question is - how in the f*ck did Ordo Machinum miss Belisarius Cawl drawing more resources for his primaris project than Imperium itself has to make more spacemarines?

Arch lore video. Always a winning choice.

So should there not be more Inquisitions that keep an eye on other groups in the imperium? Like for example the Ordo Navigatium (keeps a eye on the navigator houses and the rogue traders and searches for new safe warp routes).

I was not expecting an Attack of the Killer Tomatoes reference here.

I was looking at the picture and saw the dude in the background, first thing that came to mind was that guy thinking “The fcuk did he just say???”

Tech adept finds stc fragment, "let's f**k around and find out" The different between science and f**king around is writing down the results

Arch is getting more and more savage over time.

Mine receptors witness glory from the burning of the flame, The fires of the forge are like the trumpets which proclaim, Our engines at full power, your destruction is our aim, Our TRUTH has come online!

a lot if the minor ordos and organization in the imperium are fascinating despite the little writen about them Anothet of my fqvorite are the magos biologis of the mechanicum. the branch dedicated to biology. Which I find really interesting because most of the mechanicum despise the flesh, while the biologis often see the flesh as just another machine. And might give themselves bio upgrades like extra efficient muscle fibers in a way a regular admech might get a mechadendrite. I could definitely see some some fun doctrinal tension between them and other admechs who look at them with a side eye.

That's one I've never heard of. The sharper knives bit, on the other hand, I remember that I read that detail in one of the older war40k novels(forgot which one, could be the first deathwatch novel but not sure, 'tis been ages) however it was the folded steel method, not a way to better sharpen stuff, that was "rediscovered". Honestly, at times it can sound absurd for humanity to forget so much, then again, it's a fictional universe(and humanity itself!) we're talking about here.

The Imperium is kind of already a bunch of savages living in the ruins of past glories.

*6:58 Before Cawl :(

3e had Witch Hunters and Daemonhunters codices. I think both have various rules for making an inquisitorial retinue complete with Jokaero etc.

I wonder if this will grow into a major faction of the inquisition given Vashtorr’s inevitable rise to the fifth chaos god seat.

I dare say that the idea of the Lords Dragon from Dark Heresy is in itself way better.

Suggestion: Knight Worlds as detialed as possible please.

The special agents of the special agents. I go for that

I think these guys make an appearance in the all guardsmen party story

Always felt GW needed to have more "Imperium but not the High Lords of Terra's Imperium" factions, people serving the Imperium but not directly under the authority of the High Lords of Terra, the Inquisition, or other mortal top-tier of Imperium leadership I like the idea that the Emperor, before his being trapped on the throne by his little tussle with the Heresy, would have assigned special duties to various peoples and planets that would remain in effect because he personally gave the orders, so the orders can't be easily rescinded by the High Lords of Terra. One could do a lot with people running around with ancient imperial rescripts personally signed by the Emperor that must be respected by the Imperium of Man since the Emperor is still the technical head of government and head of state. I am thinking of a story involving a planet with some important resource that the Imperium needs, but the planet itself legally answers only to the Emperor, leading to "complications" as a looming invasion threatens. More importantly, the planet, being independent of the Imperium's mortal hierarchy for the longest time, has its own unique armed forces, technologies, and ways of doing things, making for interesting alternative units for Imperial armies.

I could be wrong was the inquisitor from the game inquisitor dlc with the admech character a member of this ordo ??

Its not very often when Arch outright "begs" the comment trolls to give him more information.

I had no idea they had an inquistion. But makes sense.

Got a rogue trader game going where we have a number of mechanicus style players that are outright tech heretics, but no other characters are technically inclined to even know.

Ordo machinum is in codex inquisition and a single article in white dwarf 457 from March 2020 that's it.

Not a chance in a runaway forge anyone volunteers for that branch.😳 Just dealing with the Roomba discoveries boggles the mind.

Since we're doing obscure 40K lore do a video on the felinids next, I guarantee you'll have no shortage of background art :p

What would they do if they found an STC for a science lab

And just 5 mins before listening to this, I played Inquisitor: Martyr as a magos Inquisitor 😂

Attack of the Killer Tomatos: 40k Edition.

GW can't write these guys back into the lore without making them massively incompetent otherwise Belisarius Cawl would never have risen to power.

Wasn't there an ordo called Janis? Janus? In one of the RPGs that were techpriest inquisitors

One could imagine someone turning on a light switch without the accompanying 5 hours of rituals and sacred oils being lathered in blessed promethium compliments of the Ordo Machanium. What lengths they would go to to punish the Heresy of a defunct toaster being thrown into the trash rather then given a shrine in the holiest of temples least humanity suffer the dread of untoasted bread.

So, I'm playing a cogboy in a Dark Heresy 2e campaign. We didn't deliver well on the last mission, and now the Inquisitor (GM really) threatens us with execution if we don't perform stellarly on the current mission (meaning DM wants sacrifice of limbs and characters). Can I conceivably lore-wise leverage the curious relationship between Mechanicum and Inquisition to be spared? I'm not that into the "Grim Dark" aspect of WH40 TTRPGs and want my character to (most likely) survive like in later editions of D&D.

Ok, the Mechanicus and the Mechanicum are berserk buttons of mine. I am an Admech player, and I like to think I specialize in their lore a little bit. For one thing, the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Mechanicum of Mars, despite their similar names, are *two distinct organizations.* The Mechanicum was the organization the Emperor made contact with on Mars after the unification wars. THIS is the organization that was an ally of the Imperium, not part of it, up until the Horus Heresy, when the Mechanicum and its leadership sided with Horus Lupercal. That organization was destroyed, save for the remnants that fled to the Eye of Terror and became the Dark Mechanicum as we know it today. The Adeptus Mechanicus is a department under the Imperium of Man, part of it, just like the Adeptus Terra. It was founded during the Siege of Terra when the Senatorum Imperialis was trying to figure out what to make of those loyal Mechanicum agents who disagreed with Kelbor Hal and stayed with the Imperium. It is a successor organization to the Mechanicum that consists of all the tech priests, organized in much the same way as the Mechanicum, and it's too easy to confuse the two. I'm serious, a loyalist Titan turned around and walked on the Senatorum building to force the issue and ensure the assets of Mars simply weren't gobbled up by Terra. They were effectively negotiating the terms of the annexation of the Mechanicum by the Imperium, and they wanted to remind Terra who the Titan Legions had true loyalties to. The Ordo Machinum, as a part of the Inquisition, really established after the Heresy was over, oversees the Adeptus Mechanicus, which definitively is a part of the Imperium of Man. The Mechanicum of Mars, as far as the Imperium is concerned, is long dead and gone, although those in the eye of terror may disagree. On paper, the Adeptus Mechanicus has far less independence from the Imperium than the original Mechanicum of Mars, but in practice, little has changed for the Tech Priests, because their position is still important.

The ultra Admech plot point for a book in the making...

Hey I discovered that I can use my hair drier not only to dry my hair, but also my pants!.... HERESY!

So, Arch, are you going to cover any of the Arks of Omen lore that's been coming out? Because that stuff is damn cool and interesting in my opinion.