Oregairu's Culture Festival Flashback - Zoku's Smart Retcon 

season 3 waiting room

"About a week" That didn't age well

Oregairu gave me more emotional stress than I would have in real life

Obviously, Season 3 will start with Hachiman confessing his undying love for Totsuka!

Holy crap. I rewatched seasons 1 and 2 literally last week and until you just pointed it out to me, I completely forgot that the sports festival was the finale of season 1. I guess it just goes to show how effective that retcon was at connecting the theme and tone of the cultural festival arc into season 2's story.

This channel is seriously a goldmine for during quarantine

I got to know about Oregairu through your video on "Do visuals matter?". Oregairu is one of my favorites now.

The moment that would need to be picked up in my opinion on would be the "i want somehing genuine" scene since that is where everyone was affected including Iroha. That, i think, would be the focus of the next season with them finding what is genuine.

Something interesting, the athletic festival took place during volume 6.5 of the light novel. This volume chronologically takes place after volume 6 which was the cultural festival but was released after either volume 8 or 9. So volume 7 essentially picked up right after the end of the cultural festival and made little to no reference to the athletic festival. It wasn't until volume 6.5 was released readers got to know what actually happened during the athletic festival. Another thing, volume 6.5 is one of the longest in the series with around 400 pages. In the anime, it was horribly rushed in order to size it down into a single episode. So a lot of the more serious moments were removed in order to fit the vibe of season one. That's pretty much it, great vid as always

Just fresh off binging Oregairu (S3 hype)! The general consensus is that seasons 1 & 2 are vastly different shows, but I don't think enough credit has been given to just how well that transition was made. The Tobe arc is probably my favourite one in the series thus far, and watching both seasons back-to-back reminded me how much I liked it. What's so brilliant here is that the cultural festival and the Tobe arc share many similar plot elements, and choosing to call back that rooftop scene with Hayama makes perfect sense. The Tobe arc really brings the audience in for that engaging premise set up in the first season; the Service Club takes on a job, Hachiman psycho-analyses the peers around him, ample time is spent between the two waifus (Yui is best girl don't @ me), the problem first introduced takes on a new form as other parties are affected, and Hachiman devises a plan to fulfil all the conditions. All these things happen in the Cultural Festival arc as well, and that’s where the show’s first big tonal shift hits. Hachiman actually faces consequences for his plan. Sure, Hayama does shove him on the rooftop, but other than that and a light slap on the wrist by Hiratsuka-Senpai, Hachiman’s actions here barely get acknowledged. He showed no indication of wanting to change and was more interested in packing chairs than in facing the larger issue at hand. Sagami, the chairman, gets a few moments crying in the toilet and is shelved for the rest of the story. Contrast this with how Hachiman is treated in the Tobe arc. Hiratsuka’s warning back at the cultural festival comes to pass, as Hachiman overlooks the bond shared between him and Yui - a bond that was constantly shown to us throughout the casts’ time during their school trip. His inability to understand the emotions of those around him screws over everything that had been set up. The next scene sees Hachiman have a chat with Ebina on the rooftop, which bookends the arc (wouldn’t have noticed this detail without this awesome video) and allows Hachiman to reflect on the damage he caused. Most people who watch Oregairu usually have some things to say about whether s1 or s2 was better (I’m in the latter camp), but I don’t think there’s enough praise for how well this change was built up. Using the pre-existing formula of the show and choosing to ask more important questions by upending this structure is a ballsy move, but one that ensured the show didn’t get stale by committing to trope conventions - the very idea that Oregairu sought to criticise when it first begun. Season 3 can’t come soon enough XD

It’s fresh in my mind, I’ve just finished both seasons a few days ago. So waiting a little over a week is just the cherry on top. Welp this is saddening, it being postponed and all...

It amazes me how perceptive you are! I pay more attention to what the characters are saying and their body language, that I never recognise exactly "how" a scene is animated and the extra meaning it delivers. *also: Tnx for the Season 3 notification, can't wait!

THE ART STYLE CHANGED??? EXCUSE ME WTF

I honestly started watching your channel because of your Oregairu reviews. This is my favorite romcom anime and your reviews help me enjoy it even more. Look forward to Season 3 and whatever other videos you have in the future!

This channel is one of the best at video essays. You deserve so much more for being able to put my feelings for amazing anime like Oregairu into words!

“Season 3 will start airing in at least a week” *Video posted 1 month ago*

You deserve more subscribers. I really love your analysis, it adds to my insight and loves the series more with an in-depth look at the story and narrative.

spoilers: zaimokuza kills hiki and gets his own harem.

I love how you analyze each and everything that happened and how you get your own explanation that sounds really legit. Stories are open to interpretation but I love how you interpret it and I wish I could see it in the same way as you. But nonetheless, I already love the story the way I interpret it but hearing a different take is refreshing

oH yEaH dEfInItElY eXcIteD fOr SeAsOn 3(cries in delayed)

just finished rewatching Oregairu yesterday, my body is ready for season 3 👌👌

Thank you so much, I requested this cause I love your other videos on this anime, it's my favorite of all time. I also theorized that Feel just wanted to flex their animation skills on Brain Base.

Wow I recently subscribed only for you to drop this video and be pleasantly surprised that I came back in time for season 3

I can’t wait for more oregairu videos from you once season 3 hits.

I am so fuckin hype for s3. It's been 3000 years...

Just watched Episode 8 last night, I almost brought me to tears if I wasn't eating a burger.

I dig that concept of tonal integrity, and yes I noticed it (or grasped the concept) but damn you really put it in words. I cannot wait to see S3.

Saika is best girl.

I decided to continue oregairu after years today, this is a really great video my guy

6 more days guys

I'm sure other LN readers have pointed this out, but the reason why (in my opinion) the Athletic Festival Arc was only one episode long was because the written counterpart to it was only released after the episode aired. Three volumes (6.25, 6.50, 6.75) came out as bonuses with some blu-ray volumes for the anime. Those three volumes then were combined and released on their own as Volume 6.5 in 2014, a year after season one aired. You could have had an arc with the Athletic Festival like the Cultural Festival, but there was so much content that it would be impossible to condense it into a single episode. Brains Base cutting out all of the dramatic parts and making the Athletic Festival episode a more light episode was smarter in the long run. I never really thought about it, but it really was smart from feel to pretend that the Atheltic Festival never happened, considering how unimportant it really is in the grand scheme of things.

Goddamn you Corona for postponing my season 3!

pretty sure oregairu is one of my favorite series due to how real the characters are

I am more hype now thanks for this man :)

I am watching this anime and loving it! Great review man.

Yui is Best Girl.

So much new content being churned out thanks to the quarantine lol

if forgot haruno played the bass this makes me love the show even more now

Confessing that I didn't notice the visual changes from one season to the other

I'm a big recent fan of your Oregairu videos. I love how you really sum up and explain a scene. It's makes SNAFU more meaningful. I was wondering, could you do a video on the last scene of season 2. There's tons of subtext there that I would love to understand more. Thank you for the good content

thanks for reminding me to rewatch.

cant wait for season 3

Now that Oregairu is NOW airing, we get to see the anime end. It will be sad. Ready our tissues.

about a week after the video release *cries*

i have started readin the LN after rewatching this show

When season 3 finally arrives I'll drown this earth with my tears.

This is Mr. Yukinoshita His eldest daughter Haruno is a Jazz orchestra conductor and a drummer His youngest daughter Yukino is a vocalist/guitarist Be smart and have a good taste of music like Mr. Yukinoshita

I need to go rewatch today 👍🏽💜

The REAL question is Did anyone see Yui’s surprised gasp in the background when Tobe puts Ebina’s fortune thing on the rungs in the Kyoto arc

I NEVER WANTED ANYTHING GENUINE

Persona and Oregairu are the only two anime based things i've grown attached to... And here u r using them both in one video

Here’s hoping season 3 is better than season 2 lmao

I LOVE THIS SHOW

God i am so excited for this season

Ok gonna watch the series again

I think you should make a video talking about the end of the second season, because there are many people who did not know how to interpret it correctly and even portray it as something boring for a season finale, at least I found it brilliant in the way that it's written, keep up the good work!

_I'm writting this comment at __5:37__ in the video_ Let me "stop you right there", S3 starts directly after the end of the 2nd. We get ~1m30 of the "I want everything" (or "I'll take everything"?) Yui scene, and then a lil timelapse few mins later... And i won't say what's after because it would be a spoil. (I know that because the first ep of s3 got a premiere in some japanese theaters and a friend of mine was in, and for some other reasons too.) Anyway, your videos are as great as always and your analysis is very interesting, thank you ! [EDIT] : Oh, and don't hope that much for season 3... I've read novels up to vol 13, will read 14 soon. And from people who've read the whole 14 novels... Well, Watari somehow fucked up the end. By that I mean that every thing that was built to make a really deep show, with like real "foreshadowing" _(I'm sorry english is not my native language so I don't know if I'm using the right word there)_ was litteraly forgot and put away in Vol.14. We got an end, good one, for sure. But we didn't get answers.

I rewatched this, S2 first. I was surprised that the anime did change and checked if there was a studio change

Season 3 is gonna be a very emotional

Yes. More Oregairu.

i wish the comedy would go back i dint read the light novel but this anime brought comedy really good cant wait for next seaon

season 3 leggoo

Guys! I just found out that the OreGairu's Season 3 Episode 1 was titled “Eventually, the season change and the snow melts” So maybe the word "SNOW" prefers to Yukino because in Japan, the name Yukino means "To be like snow"

This is just my personal opinion, but damn rewatching s1& s2 just before s3 got delayed really makes me appreciate that s2 opening even more, i mean s1 is great and awesome with comedic tone but me personally s2 dramatic opening really gave me goosebumps. I really approved the decision shift from comedic to dramatic way of storytelling.

It's postponed..... the 3rd season..... *ITS POSTPONED!!!*

Me watching season 2 in 2020 while i watched s1 in 2013: What the fuck is this shift? Also, it was certainly flashing, s2 looks amazing...

still waiting!!!

I think they started zoku off with the cultural festival because volume 6 ended there, and the athletics festival was volume 6.5 which is just an extra volume

Judging by the trailer i guess the flashback point will be the conversation within the group on episode 13, whereas it would be the emphasis of this whole finale season

From what I can tell, it's just going to start off where the cliffhanger ended last season. It is also adapting less volumes than last season, so hopefully they don't skip over as much details from the light novels as last season considering it will probably end just as the light novel ended.

If you had the time, please check the hibike euphonium series, I think you will like the similar cynical main character between oregairu and hibike, tho they're different in their respective ways. Plus, you'll get content from analysing new anime. Keep it up, your channel is, without any exaggeration, a solid masterpiece :))

Sad to see it has been delayed until summer :'(

i was watching a P5R Gameplay and you upload this video... i thought i haven't closed the P5R Gameplay because of the music lol.

There is no way someone didn't notice the art change between s1 and s2. I really loved and apreciated the reanimation of the flashback from s1, not just because i generally love art change between series, but because i just love the more serious tone and less caricaturistic art

The Athletic Festival is a short 8 chapter story made for the anime adaptation, since at that time the light novels were on Volume 6, this part was written for Volume 6.5, so though it serves to close the Sagami arc (which they didn't actually adapted that part, only the comedy), the only purpose it serves is to show how his class hates him now. Since both seasons are thematically different, one focusing on comedy and another on the drama (it's worth to note the original work is in between) I can't help but to be disappointed with the adaptation of Volume 6, the School Festival arc, since the first season's failed to address many important scenes, specially with Yukino, that makes the shift in her attitude towards Hachiman make a lot more sense, instead of the jump we had from one season to the other. I love both takes on the story but they failed to connect both seasons in my opinion, specially having read the light novels where the story's transitions are much smoother. Great analysis by the way!! I love all your Oregairu ones the most!! Hope you'll make more ^^

I love both season. I just hope subtitles are readily available for season 3 since that was my problem with season 2. Subs took hours to an entire day to come out. But hey, that's only a problem if you're a weekly watcher, right?

i love this anime because i cant decide which girl of those 2 is the best

Yo those people who didn't realize the design change 💀

Yae i forgot everything from season 1 and 2 >->

I always thought that the last episode was a filler

He will probably confess to yui

Not really a retcon but how the novels are structured. Episode 12 is adapting volume 6 and 13 is adapting volume 6.5 which is a side story. Volume 7 which is adapted at the start of seasons 2 picks up at about the same point. I am really looking forward to this season as studio feel will be able to more fully adapt the novels and hopefully add more inner monologues.

Not the focus of this vid but I noticed that some of their clothes change between s1 and s2 even it's the same time.

Go read the novel! Just like any other adaptation, the original provides a lot more context and Hikigaya's inner thoughts which makes the story a lot better imo. Especially read the fan translated ones. Hikigaya makes a lot of references to Precure, Japanese memes, and various things about Japanese culture and the fan translators add translator notes to for more context instead of "westernizing" what's being said. The fan translated ePubs make it easy to tap a note for a popup explaining things (looks similar to Wikipedias sources i.e: [1], [2], [3]) And if you have the money to support the author, purchase the books! Even if you don't end up reading them (because I feel the fan made versions are better).

Aaaaand S3 is delayed :(

Yeah that athletics festival really make me confused because clearly after the rooftop even many people hate 8man, but in the upcoming festival people like forget about it. My analysis is brain base from the start didnt have will to make it into second season that why they try to make it as happy end as possible. Idk. Maybe brain base to much make change in athletic festival that 'broke' the story for s2.

I just realized zaimokuza doesn't get any screen time XD

A very controversial opinion but, disregarding oregairu's light novel, ebina and zaimokuza make up a chaotic (but kinda fitting) romantic duo.

Bro not realizing the art style change... if someone actually seriously didn't notice it they are not actually watching the anime, they're probably brain dead or having it on background noise or something

Superman vs. Batman is nothing compared to Hayamavs. Hachiman

Is that Persona 5 soundtrack I hear?

The art style changed between S1 and 2?? /s

Can somebody tell me How many days should I wait for dubbed season 3 😑

Delayed.... :(

Why CORONA?

Am i the only one never saw this episode

Did u delete the video of your analysis of 8man's confessions?

I think I like Totsuka from the first season more than the second season (no hate)

season 3 delayed

When is s3 out?