Oregairu's Genuine Scene - Subtext to Text and Beyond 

Other anime : i love you, do u want to be my gf/bf? Oregairu : 7 pages of explaining their feeling without saying the word "love"

Ok. I wanna correct you on something. Yukino never wanted to run for president for herself. She was trying to run for president so that she can solve the problem in her own way and show Hachiman that things can be solved without him self sacrificing or using under handed methods. And when Yukino said" here I thought that you would understand" She thought that hachiman at least unlike Yui believed that their relationship won't be as shallow such that it would break apart if Yukino were to run for SCP. But, Hachiman was shallow enough to think that the club would be gone if Yukino became president. And Hachiman later comes to realization about this when shiromeguri senpai said that "it would have been great if Yukinoshita were to become SCP and that she(shiromeguri)would come to talk with them. And in her idealization, all three of them were there. Meaning that if Yukino were to become the president of SC, Hachiman and Yui could join student council as members. Only the room would have been changed. Not the relationship between them But instead of protecting the relationship between three of them, hachiman (and yui) chose to protect that room Now, Yukino realized that maybe her friends don't value or think that their relationship is as strong as she thinks. This really hurts Yukino. She came to the realization that only she was stupid among the three of them to think that their relationship wasn't as shallow. She loses all of her confidence after this and pretty much becomes soulless for the next few episodes. And when she saw that Hachiman is overworking himself because of the club's situation. She tells him to take some time off the club. But instead Hachiman not only comes to the club the next day but also says that"he want something genuine"(implying that he wants a stronger relationship). Yukino had always been abandoned by her friends and bullied in her childhood. But it was the first time when someone was ready to cross a line with her . She becomes overwhelmed by her emotions and runs away from there. (Which is mentioned in her character song, "with these new found overflowing emotions, I ran away")

I'm not gonna lie, I watched this show twice and I still never quite figured out what this scene was about. Hearing it explained to me makes me appreciate the show so much more. Great video and analysis!

I think there’s something very touching about this scene, something that I felt resonated with me personally. Hachiman is a hardcore pessimist. He looks at things and picks them apart to find the ugliness in them, and he closes himself off from others because he gave up trying to follow the crowd that ostracized him, deciding that going against logic and following his feelings would only lead to more mockery, shame and problems. Because of this, he abandons the idea of complete trust in others, always searching for an ulterior motive in every interaction and action he observes, and decides that there is no worth in trying to appeal to anybody, so he acts only with logic, trying to reach benefits in any situation without the fear of losing his dignity because as far as he’s concerned, it doesn’t matter to anybody, not even himself. In any situation, he realizes that pain is only an inevitable evil, and the quickest and simplest solution often involves sacrifice. And if it will be so, it should and will only apply to him and him alone because by that logic, nobody gets hurt except the one whose pain will hurt nobody. Thus, things can carry on for everyone as they know it, because he doesn’t apply to the equation once it ends. But even then, despite his ideas making logical sense, despite him saying he can have no consequence because he is a loner, he fails to see that he isn’t the only one hurting, because for quite possibly the first real instance aside from his own sister (and Totsuka, but he’s an entirely different anomaly in of himself), he has friends who don’t want to see him get hurt, something he has denied in his mind for so long. In addition, he realizes by this point that his logic can only take him so far. He misinterprets the situation during student council runnings and manages to preserve the club, but fails to realize Yukino’s true intentions for running and the consequences she suffers in the aftermath since he projects his image of a “strong girl” onto Yukino, leading him to underestimate her true depths and drive a wedge between the club. This also is because Hachiman is so fixated on saving the club, he never once considers that the bond he has with Yui and Yukino won’t simply fade away with the room itself, partially because he himself never really considered it as a true relationship beyond being in the same club. He believes that this superficial excuse is all that allows him to even associate with the two of them, but that isn’t even remotely true, because he refuses to accept that his time spent with them both changed the formula. For the first time, what he sees as the logical decision is the less favorable for him, and he pays for it. In his method to save the club, all he ends up doing is threathening its union. That being said, I love this scene because it finally shows our stoic, aloof and pessimistic loner finally letting go of his cold rationality and dark outlook. Even for just a moment, his voice cracks, his eyes tear up, and even if his mind tells him what he asks for is impossible, even if it defies everything he tells himself, Hachiman speaks from his heart, reaching out to two friends to help him, quite possibly the first time we’ve ever seen him openly ask someone else to help him with his personal problems. For the first time since becoming a loner, Hachiman is tearing down the walls and exposing his vulnerability, allowing himself to place genuine, unconditional trust in another person to do the same to him, offering his back to them, hoping for a warm hand instead of a cold knife. He finally admits his helplessness, asking his friends to help him lift the burden off his shoulders and to find something genuine together. They won’t just take the easy way out and stick with the status quo, instead resolving to struggle and suffer through any obstacle and consequence to achieve something that can truly last, something truly unconditional. No more compromises, no more bargains, no more excuses, no more strings attached. Nothing but trust and understanding in each other.

I always enjoy these videos breaking down the characters and "interactions" in Oregairu. Too many have dismissed the depth of the story's commentary on human intimacy and the dichotomy of possessing cursory knowledge versus true "understanding," be it on a psychological or epistemological basis, and I'm glad you're trying to fill those shoes. Thank you.

I'm amazed that you aren't more popular. You have good editing, a good voice, and good ideas expressed by great writing. I hope you get your lucky break soon man. You deserve way more attention.

Oregairu: Final Season... Me: Why?! Don't you like money?! We would watch more?!

i saw this show many years ago, and funnily enough, the "genuine scene" has stuck with me more than an other from any piece of fiction ive ever seen. its...kind of amazing to see someone else take interest it it. small world..i guess.

Half a year from now before the series truly ends. Bittersweet feelings.

I will forever remember the genuine scene, it honestly made me cry so much when i watched it for the first time (mind you i dont cry often) It was like i was the one who was speaking rather than hachiman himself, it gave me insight about myself and how i truly feel. I wonder when i’ll finally open up to someone about things, but i do know this anime gave me a little push.

Take a shot everytime he says the word 'text'

Hachiman is the best anime character I've ever known..... He is the only Mc i can connect with emotionally!!

If a English teacher or even a English professor read the LN or watched the anime, I'm sure they would call this series a masterpiece

Bravo! I may add that we will never get to completly understand another person, becouse of three reasons: 1. we can't get the exatly the same expirience of beeing someone else, we can describe it but words are not experiences. 2. People is alwais changing, learning new things, as in school and in life, geting better, geting worse. I feel myself realy diferent since i was a child, but yet i feel that something remains the same. 3. The more we learn about someone the more we find things we don't like about them. That's why it may be painfull, to try to know someone. To actually know them! But that is the exact same reason why we can be with the same person all life and not get tired, (some people do get bored but whatever) there is alwais something new to learn about someone else. I have to say that i'm not a psycologist or something.

Yoooooo welcome back my guy. Subtext is really one of Oregairu's biggest strengths. Can't wait to see what they'll do to it on season 3.

He finally get his "genuine"! It was a long journey everyone but every second of us waiting is all worth it. Thank you Hachiman, Yukino and Yui. You guys will always have a place in my heart.

When hachiman and yukino talked in that episode I literally shouted "development!!"

I re-watched Oregairu yesterday and today you are posting a video about it. What a coincidence Kkkkkkkkkk

I watched the last oregairu episode when it aired and my heart has been heavy ever since. Rewatching all of these videos about oregairu makes me realize how good of a show it truly was.

Im just happy this novel series get animated all the way to the end. is underrated, no one would like to spend time watching an anime that is hard to understand, and those who really apprieciate this anime got the most rewarding experience.

another sub context is the two 'making friend' scene at the beginning and the ending of season one where Hachiman asked if he could become friend with Yukino and got rejected twice. first time he was rejected because yukino know the guilt of the car accident would not go away, and make friend at this point would just be a superfacial connection. the second time Yukino rejected the invitation to become friends but her body language showed that she opened herself up a lot more, and that she has begun to "know" Hachiman. they had come a long way to get where they are, made peace about the car accident and Yukino's lying part, and Yukino thought that the group's relation would move on to become something 'genuine' rather than 3 people making superficial friends because they were related to one car accident. and then in the second season, when Yukino witnessed Hachiman's self-sacrifice way of solving problems, she wasnt just mad about Hachiman hurting himself and the loner way of doing things, but the fact that Hachiman chose to support a superficial group dynamic.

YEAHHHHHH WELCOME BACK, we do love your videos, it's nice to see and hear, and I can understand more now, Hikigaya development and all... can't wait for season 3!!!

I have to say that I truly appreciate this anime, never has a show, book, movie or other types of content made such and impact on myself as oregairu, and the best part was that I never really understood the reason, was it because I related to Hachiman, or did I yearn for these type of events in my life, but after watching this, I can conclude that it was really simple, I wanted to "understand", he said right there, no subtext, he just spat it out. It truly amazes me how everytime I reflect on content made about this anime or the show itself, it makes me sad, or want to cry, but it is at this times that I really feel "human". Sorry for the long post, just felt that after watching this marvellous video, I had to let it out. Keep up with the great content, congratulations on a fantastic piece of work!

Great analysis. Seriously deserves more views and shares. Although I will admit I got lost once or twice while you were elaborating on the "subtext vs text" kind of thing. I would have liked if you could have made it clear what exactly subtext and text were referring to at the beginning of the video, and then took some time to explain each point of your analysis in more laymen terms. Otherwise, fantastic video, looking forward to more content!

*This channel is so underrated,* and I don't say that very often, especially considering I've seen this expression countless of times throughout the entire web-- but regarding anime, I really just need to have to say, myself, that it's just really apparent how much quality this channel offers and how much value they take from anime itself. Though, one thing that is definitely not up to me, but especially the community as a whole, is that I guess these types of analysis or thorough-to-brief breakdowns of anime videos or content especially specializing in text/subtext particularly, are not the most renowned form that recognition takes extensively, that's why only a handful of people even get to consider looking into these sorts of things, which just goes to show how differently various and multitudes of watchers out there individually see anime. But if it IS one thing I do have a take on... I think the form that content-bringing such as this takes is RATHER important and really compelling to a VAST extent, that *I sternly believe they should at the very most be recognized more by the community or moreover outside the culture as well,* for better or for worse.

This is honestly the best breakdown of that scene. Your voice really compliments your amazing timing of quotes and clips and your writing itself is great. I love the way you tied multiple themes into your analysis. You've got a new subscriber now and I can't wait to watch some more of your videos

I just wrote out a rather long sort of sappy comment recounting my experiences with this show and your channel but I think it would be better to sum it up as this: Thank you. You have helped to restore a part of my interest in anime that I have lost touch with, and I truly appreciate your ability to bring back my love of the analytical. This is my favourite anime channel and I will be happy to support it going forward.

Just wanted to say thanks for making this video. Oregairu is a show that means so much to me and not understanding this scene made me so frustrated😌. Now that I understand, I realise that this show is nothing more than a masterpiece.

Holy shit this was well written. You have a new sub. Oregairu is quite honestly one of the best written romance anime I have ever seen, and you did an incredible job breaking down this scene.

I've watched one Video and i can see that this channel is underrated. Analysis was amazing, Carried it out beautifully!

From the episode 1 i knew Yukino will be the one whom he gonna ended up with...

Thanks for RU-vid recommendations. Oregairu is my favorite is this analysis was beautiful. An understanding beyond words, even though we need both words and implications to understand.

I'm so glad you made a video on Oregairu, it suits your channel so well because of all the hidden meanings behind things.

I've been so excited for this!

This is one of my favorite videos from you and on the platform in general. You've been a great help in my attempt at understanding this series, so has your comment section. I know Oregairu has a rather small cult following today than it once did, but I think that's because more people didn't watch your analyses of it. It's a show so easy to dismiss if you look at like superficially, but it's moments like these that make even the average viewer feel like this show is genuinely trying to say something, pun intended. I finished the series long ago, understanding some parts and not others. But I've never been able to get this show out of my mind. I'm on a rewatch now, and I will probably touch on the novels soon. Honestly, with a voice as good as yours, I'd even listen to you reading the novel out by yourselr lol, but what I mean is that I hope you think of diving back into the series sometime soon. Take care

I found gold the moment i discovered your channel, thank you very much!

Wow. Amazing analysis. You might just be one of my favourite anime RU-vidrs along with beyondghibli. OreGairu was one of the first anime series I watched and it was the first one that made sure that I would always love anime, it was my point of no return. That genuine scene was personally very important to me as it helped me make sense of some of the problems I was facing at the time. This analysis has made it much more clearer and put it into words that I couldn't before. It made me love and appreciate the series even more. Thanks and keep it up!

This video was the genuine thing, and I thank you for your interpretation. True understanding is not easy to find or develop. But it's the most rewarding thing, especially if being superficial irks you as it does me.

One of the best analysts I have ever seen about Oregairu.Great job man!Your channel is great,your voice is easy to listen,your script is perfect.Hope to see more Oregairu related content from your channel in the future since it is so underrated (like you)!

Omg Track 8 is such a banger! Nice vid :) I love this show so much

Fantastic analysis, I’ve seen this anime 3 times and even now I’m getting new insight.

Man, you nailed it, specially at the part when you say that Hachiman is at his lowest, to me this is my favorite part of the series (referring to the light novel, since the anime cut what was in Hachiman's mind) it's such a powerful scene, to see Hachiman who hated the superficial now started to search for it in order to maintain his "everyday", and when he is confronted his mind just got blank, he didn't know what to do, he got hit in his weakpoint.

Thank you so much for this. Truly this anime is a masterpiece of its kind.

Thanks you very much for this recap of those moments especially the relationship between those 3

Hats off to ur hard work great analysis❤️❤️❤️❤️...it's my favorite anime.one of the best charecter development untill now.keep it up.😎😎

Daym i just Finished rewatch the anime when u upload this

Seriously, I need a video explaining the second part of the second season, the text and subtext was intense. I could watch a bunch of these regarding Oregairu, the show is so good and hard to grasp everything, If you're able and willing, please make more!! ^^

I just finished this episode and didn't quite understand the scene and the events leading up to this that made it happen. I've actually been confused by the past few episodes and the relationship between the members of the club up to this point, and this video helped make things a bit more clear. So thanks for this and great analysis

I cannot put into words how amazed I am at this video. Not only the level of production that went into it but the genuine (see what I did there?) thought and passion that was present during the entire run time. This anime, for all the flaws it has, is my favorite one that I have ever watched and to see what I believe to be the best scene between both seasons properly laid out like this was beautiful. You deserve all of the praise I can give and more, but for now, have a new sub and a fantastic rest of your year.

This is amazing, I enjoyed this so much! I subbed and I cant wait to watch more of your content

Man I can’t wait to watch season 3 btw love the video

Wow the way you interpret and explain the scenes makes me feel like we watched two different shows👏👏👏

Thanks for sharing this, man. It's a great analysis. :)

Beautiful video good job man

damn this hit me hard and brought back some memories, thank you for this video

Im loving these oregairu videos

Nice video. It's really refreshing to watch anime oriented content that isn't oriented to just compare one anime with another trying to tell why the ones from the past are better or crap like that.

God tier video man. Hachiman is one of the best mcs no cap simply because of his relatable personality

Thank youuuu! Too much of that Genuine Scene went over my head and I was so confused. I'm not going to pretend I understand it 100%, but this video made much more sense for me.

I've been re-watching Oregairu as season 3 approaches and felt that revisiting this video with a fresher memory of the series was a good idea. Oregairu compliments the viewers ability to digest subtext more-so than any other anime I've watched. I often find it difficult to understand why others don't view the series as highly as I do, but I think that may stem from not appreciating these aspects or being frustrated that perhaps the show didn't fulfill the promise presented by its genre . I have a few friends that felt the show worsened as it went on, and that's okay, but I love how the series has progressed and am excited for season 3. Still on of my favorite videos you've made.

This anime is very complex but when the time that you can understand this anime its one of the best, many hidden messages even in the animation has its hidden meanings

Oregairu: the show so deep, its subtext has subtext

I wish there is another anime like this. The story is soo goood! If only this anime has 200 episodes.

I have something to say about the end scene of the second season, but this may not come out as accurate as it could be because it is years ago since when I've last saw the series. In the part where Yukino is about to give her chocolate to Hachiman, it is prevented by Yui indirectly (or intently?), twice. First is outside the school(?) and the other is at the aquarium. Yui knows that Yukino is making an effort to open up to someone, more so from the opposite sex, with the chocolate symbolizing her feelings but before she could do so at the end. Yui gone on rambling about how she wanted the three of them to maintain their relationship together in the future, thus preventing Yukino's 'confession'. However, this notion was rejected by Hachiman, something something genuine. I'm very unreliable here but trust me, it's the subtlety that to me, made this scene caught me off guard and also what made me despise Yui a little. Feel free to correct me or something, I just wanna discuss this lingering impression of mine for the past years or so. I may not be right, but thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

Love the content and can't wait for season 3. Also loved the inclusion of some of the Toradora OST towards the end.

I really appreciate your videos.

I don’t think Hachiman doesn’t care about people’s emotions it’s that he thinks he has no value in anyone’s eyes. I think due to being cast off by his contemporaries and heartless rejections that didn’t ever recognize him as a person of value. That’s why he goes at great lengths at preserving other people’s feelings at the expense of himself or social image. Which leads to Hiratsuka-sensei and Yui trying to get him to realize that he does have people that care about him and by self sacrificing all the time he’s not sparing everybody because the ones that care for him(that he doesn’t fully realize) are the ones getting hurt.

This show is probably one of my favorites, it's raw & packed full of emotions that A LOT of people are going through or have gone through. It really hit my deep in my heart, definitely makes me wanna start reading the light novels.

Interesting topic with a great presentation, great job !

You did great💖

Honestly never got to binge watching this series because idk but just started and i basically caught up to the current episodes. Ever since the 1st Episodes and just watching the subtext, its quite obvious the dynamic of all the relationships. Yui never had a chance to begin with, just like in the club room, shes ALWAYS between Haichman and Yukinon, implying that shes the only reason they havent showed their true feelings for each other. Its amazing anime because not all MCs should try to be the hero!

Cmon, hyouka was a masterpiece and you broke it down beautifully. Oregairu was a different masterpiece and i think it deserves more breakdown from you, sir!!! Breakdown like - The ending scene - Haruno's point of view about boring - Hyouka like scene to scene breakdown Or any breakdown about oregairu from you I will definitely appreciate Thx keep up the good work 😂

People who sees Oregairu like this is a solid one. Not many people see this things in this kind of romcoms :')

Great video

I don't often comment on yt vids, but I wanted to let you know I really enjoy the video bro. Keep up the good work!

When I first watched the scene at 6:22... goosebumps Hitted me... because it is the same As the Harumodoki (Season 2 OP) ... This Scene pushed him to Learn about His Flaws and learn about emotions

I like this video❤️❤️ That's why you got an new subscriber

Nice analysis. I just noticed that you did not cover the entire season 2 so hopefully you'll make a part 2 when season 3 end.

One of my favourite things about this show is that it doesn't hand anything to you on a plate. You need to think or you'll miss something

I'm so happy I only recently discovered this anime and didn't wait 5 years for the next season to arrive because I was immediately hooked after season 1. I finished this anime literally yesterday. I have seen a lot of animes in my lifetime and hands down this series has become one of my favorite animes of all time. It's at least in my top 20 of favorite animes of all time. I thought it was so well done and I completely related with these characters. It's a masterpiece in my opinion.

Damn this just gave me a new understanding for this scene congrats man you earned a sub and like form me :)

I don’t blame people who get turned away from the show because of all the subtext. It’s definitely an anime/LN series that makes you think, which really strikes a chord with me. Shows like Oregairu and Bloom Into You, two of my favorite shows, dive into the meanings of love and relationships, and what drives us towards that four letter word that we think we all understand, but can never truly comprehend, love

Nice breakdown.. Subscribed just now.

Finally understood something, thank you very much!

wowvery n-depth explanaition that i finally understand what the point of s2 was now hyped for s3!!!!

so basically hachiman was looking for trust in his relationship with the two girls, hence the phrase " I want something genuine" ?

I would love to see a prequel or a retrospection of 8man being in the middle school, and see the things that made him the person he is today. The story with his first love. I think it has a huge potential

good choice of background music

OreGairu = Social Context It’s depiction of social problems and implications is on point. Basically, very relatable to reality, and a lot context we can take away from. Hopefully season 3 will bring this masterpiece to a close with a grand finale befitting an anime of this caliber. Great narrative, and awesome video!

you just made me realize my mistake, and im reflecting on myself because of this, thanks.

Perfect vid

Bruh, i watched the whole S1 and S2 and still doesn't understand till this moment. That was my days of finding a Romance and Drama Anime. Thank you for the explanation i might have to watch it again.

really interesting video, nice job 👍

just watching this got me real hyped for season 3

Actually this anime goes beyond subtext is just cryptic and in season 2 is even more so. Like they said "if you dont say clearly i wont understand"

I've written an analisys about the meaning of Growing up, maturity, and this anime. Yours is way more complete, although I feel the topic that I was studying still deserves attention. I think part of the problem with Hatchiman is that he doesn't have the willingness to fight for something he wants. Now that we saw the confession scene it is more obvious that he doesn't value himself. Most of the others relations can be defined as people struggling to find their place in society beyond the school and the strategies they are using to cope with the stress.

This show is tricky to fully understand the first time watching. I have watched it three times myself (going to do a 4th before the next season) and still had trouble understanding 100% of all the underlying meanings and themes. This video really helped to essentially put all the pieces together and explain how all the themes connect and relate. Thanks for that!

This scene was so well done

Dam great analysis

Man, this comment section is probably one of my deepest ones from an anime. I love it. You guys are awesome. Also.... Yukino : What do you mean by "deepest"?