Even though we do not know the LANGUAGES spoken in the very extensive Harrapan civilization, we can agree that it extended west to east over India as well as down to the south in Keezhagazhi, traded with the west and far east, . I find a clear evolution and development of writing toward ancient Brahmi in symbology and structure. There is a definitive continuity of Indian culture to the present day. there clearly was a multi-lingual society. however, people must have had a common lingua franca to communicate
The unicorn motif did not disappear complately in the very late Harappan period. One curious article was a west Uttar Pradesh Copper Hoard varaha (boar) figure with the unicorn engraved.
Most of the Harappan studies ignore the fact that out of Africa, the Indians travelled from Somalia/Ethiopia regions for at least 34,000 years and settled all along the coasts of the Indian Ocean, finally selecting Gujrat coast where they called themselves Yadava and centered around Dwarka where they built the neve center of a local shipping routs joining the various places along the coasts. They joined the Sumerian cities, supplied with goods from India along the Indus river, where famous sailors became legends in Sumer. Sindbad the sailor may ring a familiar sound. The Puranic age belongs to this time, when Krishna 11,000 bp, preached the first religion to the Yadava people. Later Vedic tribes of Puru, Ainu, Turvasa etc were related to the parent tribe of imperial Yadava tribe of Mahabharata, who were destroyed by Turks from central Asia (Kuru) in the Kurukshetra war 1500-1200 bc, after the fall of the Harappans.
If they were water borne people, the wood of oars is made of pines, fir or spruce, then it implies wood is perhaps sourced from sites where this wood is native, which brings to point --that if so this wood which belongs to colder climes- will be from other regions. So the question arises -what was the climatic profile of harappan civilisation.
Highly informative. At this stage of your research and study,have you ever pondered over the relation between late Harappan and Rigvedic culture?Can you wade in to this controversy at this stage of your study?Can you explain the recent Sanouli findings vis-à-vis Harappan?
I found demoglyphs are pretty similar to carvings in many south indian temples which depicts clear picture of those demiglyphs on seal man with bow and man with shield and sword and many similar
I really thought one day one hypothesis, that IVC cities were actually factories. Every corporation had its own walled city where management lived in upper towns and workers lived in lower towns. Every new corporation was allowed to establish factories wherever they had place, you can see a few cities are not single walled cities but many small walled cities, or so called sectors. These corporations had their own little armies to guard their trade from being looted on the way. Those seals were kind of trademarks or brand of different corporations. Though all these corporations had an agreement not to fight to eachother, instead technology transfer. IVC declined because there was disputes after a 700 years long stability. Unicorn seal was logo of Apple Corporation of that time, I mean it was probably the most powerful corporation.
I read somewhere in the net that golds found in Harappa actually came from KGF in karnataka. Is it true? They said they found it through an impurities-analysis assay, as the impurities include 11% silver concentration, found only in KGF ore.
The Indus people originally from south ie. Tamilnadu. When their trade settlement in Sindhus region to trade with west countries was interrupted by the intrusion of uncultured people who migrated from Siberian grass land trouble started. The peace loving people couldn’t tolerate the uncultured unruly arrogant and inhuman thugs like people’s behaviour they were shocked. They didn’t want to fight. They decided to keep away and move away to new trading centres.
Quite naturally they started the journey homeward. It was arduous difficult and painful journey. Together with them their technicians helpers and other dependants also moved. Some people moved to north Gujarat and far away region. The main groups chose to reach Kaveri puhum PATTINAM on the eastern coast There they started their trade with the far eastern countries.
This is just a question albeit posed as an assertion: I don't believe that lack of swords in the Indus Valley is, in and of itself, is an indication or a lack of warfare. I think the stronger argument is the lack of war being represented in the art, but even here, it's lack may indicate a distaste for it (therefore no artistic veneration) rather than a lack of it. Unfortunately, Western culture's glorification of war - beginning with the Sumerians - is recorded in their art and sectarian motifs. Swords were not historically the preferred weapon for combat. We have developed a romanic opinion of it, but the archaeology does not bare it out. The spear, the lance of a horsed rider, bow and arrow the ax and mace are more prevalent. The Romans produced tactics that used a short sword but again, it was not that prevalent. The Romans used the sword as a stabbing tool, not slashing and not sharpened on both sides which only got stuck in the opponent and could be difficult to extract if imbedded in an opponents bone. The Greeks, for example, carried swords but it was the weapon of last resort if and when the line was broken. The place of the sword as a battle weapon is a modern romantic contrivance representing personal defense, valor and heroism rather than warfare per se and when images such as this are imbedded they are hard to shake. For example, the representation of martial arts in Egypt is typically the mace, not the sword, but what is the image that comes to mind? So why does the sword become the symbol of warfare that leads you to conclude, "no swords ergo, no warfare?" My own theory is that among all the personal war implements, the sword is the only one that did not have a duel use such as in food or grain preparation, building, hunting, agriculture or forest clearing. The sword is unique in that it has no function in any of these mundane activities so survived symbolically for war or governmental authority. But an investigation of ancient warfare will tell a different story regarding the sword; and I don't think its absence carries quite the significance you attribute.
It seems humans evolved to make split decisions about people's motives based on appearances, By using ornaments people are trying to influence this spit desicion making process, An early form of advertising.
After watching your fabulous presentation,one can easily understand that modern Bharatiya (Indian) people bears all those qualities and technologies which there ancestors were using,from swastika to various types of bangels,from sindur on forehead to various exclusive ornaments of womens, present day hindus are the real succesers of their ancestors.!!
But modern Indians are not descendants of the Indus Valley Civilization. Not genetically, not linguistically and not culturally. Can you read the Harrapan Script? Why do northern Indians share the same genetics with Iran and Central Asia but not Tamils? Why do northern India languages belong to the Indo-European Language family? Hindi is more related to English than it is to Tamil, a Dravidian language. Face the truth, acknowledge the Aryan heritage of Hindus and Aryan origins of the Vedas ... a heritage alien to the Indus Valley Civilization.
@@nomanor7987 you literally know nothing about the perspective of culture over the linguistics,dna or any other thing. The culture has nothing to do with the genetics or linguistics,i am talking about culture of Hindus,it doesn't matter that there are differences between kannada and Bangla,they bear the same cultural affinities that a Gujarati or assamiya has, Indian Muslims are genetically and linguistically different with the Arabian or Turkish Muslims,but does it mean they are not Muslims at all ?? Here you are just messing with the some academic terminologies to achieve your predecided bigotry and nothing else and it shows how hollow you are in these fields!!
@@nopek1405 can I ask you a question? Why do you feel that need to connect yourself to the Indus Valley Civilization? Why?? Modern Egyptians are Arabs, they don’t claim direct continuity with Ancient Egypt. Today’s Iraqis don’t claim direct continuity with Sumer. Only the Chinese can claim genetic, linguistic and cultural continuity with the Shang dynasty. But why do modern Indians and Hindus feel they are a continuity with Harrapans?? Why deny your Central Asian Aryan origins? Why deny your Indo-European language heritage? ... I mean, you don’t see Mexicans claiming Spanish and Catholicism is indigenous to Mexico and deny the Spanish invasion and colonialism. You don’t see English people claiming English to be indigenous to Britain and deny the invasion and Angles, Saxons and Jutes from Germany. So why do modern Indians and Hindus claim descent from the Indus Valley Civilization and deny their Central Asian roots and the Aryan Invasions?? Why ??
@@nomanor7987 hmm, for you it seems like a good question but it had a simplest answer that when you bear the characteristics of your ancestors,you will feel a connection,and there is a connection with us and Sindhu saraswati civilization people. harrapans.
