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Other companies need to take note! - Fairphone Fairbuds XL 

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Fairphone is back with a new super repairable gadget -- the Fairbuds XL! After the original Fairbuds were almost not repairable at all, they're back to their roots with headphones that feature cool eco-friendly styling and are built to be repaired. Will Adam be impressed or are these a swing and a miss?
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0:00 What IS an earbud?
1:02 Taking a look at the box
1:42 Unboxing
3:09 Design impressions
5:08 Fit and feel
5:51 Sponsor - Newegg
6:25 App and transparency mode test
9:34 Listening impressions
11:02 Labs results and built-in microphone test
11:41 Teardown and repairability impressions
14:04 Pricing and overall thoughts
15:17 Outro

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@BattleBear96
@BattleBear96 Год назад
A latency test for a Windows machine would be awesome
@BladeWalker91
@BladeWalker91 Год назад
I doubt they are good for competitive FPS, if they don't advertise low latency they probably weren't going for it
@5urg3x
@5urg3x Год назад
I think any bluetooth audio device is going to have latency problems unless a low latency codec is used? IDK, that's how it was back in the day. You had to use aptx low latency, otherwise there would be sync problems. I also remember that Apple devices will automatically fix the sync issues in music and videos, but I don't think it worked well for gaming,
@Username-qx9gk
@Username-qx9gk Год назад
They claim analog audio is possible over the usb-c (cables not included)
@itslaredo6771
@itslaredo6771 Год назад
Ye
@BattleBear96
@BattleBear96 Год назад
@@DarkTrapStudio Intel AX200 has quite a wide adoption i think (my notebook and my ASUS Crosshair Impact use this wireless chipset)
@PhilipeGamer
@PhilipeGamer Год назад
Here in Brazil we have a headphone called Kuba Disco and it's from a local company. It's a fully modular headset, and you can swap and fix everything like the drivers, ear cups, cables, and even the headband. In 2023 they will launch a headband with a bluetooth module and if you already have the headset, you can only buy the bluetooth headband. Plus it's a good headphone and musicians love it.
@otalbigua
@otalbigua Год назад
Came here to see anyone citing kuba disco :)
@CarlosLins1
@CarlosLins1 Год назад
It's really great, have mine for 2 years
@otalbigua
@otalbigua Год назад
I've bought the Bluetooth version on preorder
@trowawayacc
@trowawayacc 11 месяцев назад
Dam son. Thanks for this.!
@ajbp95
@ajbp95 11 месяцев назад
Wow!
@MegaDmanX
@MegaDmanX Год назад
Oh boy, I hope the 3D printing community finds out about these, it would be awesome to see what people come up with 😮
@aronseptianto8142
@aronseptianto8142 Год назад
there's already a 3D printable headphone kit, it's mostly wired tho
@Detank2002
@Detank2002 Год назад
Trust me dude they will
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st Год назад
Transparent parts!
@GinsuSher
@GinsuSher Год назад
3d printed headphones or replacement parts already exist.
@GonnerMeLeggies
@GonnerMeLeggies Год назад
Yeah my wife constantly breaks her headphones. Any of them that I can 3d print parts for would save me a fortune
@Sivah_Akash
@Sivah_Akash Год назад
Fun fact: Keeping my current "non-sustainable" headphones is more sustainable than buying a new sustainable headphone!
@gotoastal
@gotoastal Год назад
Don’t buy a Fairphone then, because they removed their 3.5mm headphone jack to force you into buying new headphones.
@odeiraoloap
@odeiraoloap Год назад
​@@gotoastal instead of buying a *3.5mm to type C adapter* that you can take on and off so you can use it on LITERALLY ANY DEVICE with a Type C port? Isn't that a win-win for usability with ancient stuff with a 3.5 port and new stuff without?
@gotoastal
@gotoastal Год назад
@@odeiraoloap By “ancient” you mean “simple & reliable”? You don’t need anything as complex as USB-C to just deliver audio. It’s not like there is a quality, bandwidth, or latency limitation that warrants a upgrade to the spec like moving from USB 1.0 up to USB4 when it comes to the signal. It can have the advantage when the built-in DAC is low quality, but there are still two objections I have to this. 1) many devices, especially phones, only offer 1 USB-C port and this can often times make you choose between audio or power delivery while older devices don’t have USB-C at all even if they function fine (since the topic is sustainability). 2) audio is such a primary peripheral that it’s ubiquity has carried the jack across decades, and being as small and cheap as it is to include, there hasn’t been much of a reason to seek an alternative. The current push for USB-C was fabricated by phone manufacturers; they don’t take up a lot of space, they’re not difficult to waterproof, they allow users to continue using their perfectly fine current hardware--but it _does_ give manufacturers an excuse to artificially force users to buy new products.
@jashelps
@jashelps Год назад
@@odeiraoloap These have been proven over and over to break easily/break your port easily as this was not what the usb c port was made for. The 3.5mm jack has been designed to be EXTREMELY durable hence why its a cylinder that can rotate to relieve one of the biggest forms of cable stress that wrecks usb c headphone adapter
@LuminousSpace
@LuminousSpace Год назад
so true, using my shp for 3 years now, i guess it is sustainable
@Sassi7997
@Sassi7997 Год назад
Small correction on the price: European retail prices always include VAT which is - depending on the country - somewhere around 15% and 27%, on average 20% VAT. That means the Fairbuds XL would cost 250€ incl. VAT, 208€ excl. VAT, or USD 225 plus your local sales tax.
@einstijn138
@einstijn138 Год назад
Completely correct. They should mention this in the video. In this case it's a Dutch company, so 21% VAT. That makes it €205.79 or $220.82.
@Zetraxes
@Zetraxes Год назад
The beginning where you explained why names are irrelevant and full of marketing deception was amazing keep up the great videos
@PoringPoring951
@PoringPoring951 Год назад
If I can upvote your comments twice, I would up vote thrice. Well said.
@pandapolygon
@pandapolygon Год назад
worst annoying voice
@coleG112
@coleG112 Год назад
It’s always felt *particularly* irrelevant and deceptive in audio-related markets tbh
@Sinaeb
@Sinaeb Год назад
When there's a term There's a term If you use a term incorrectly You are either intentionally misleading, or you are just bad In both cases, that reflects on the quality of the products, as in, lying = bad.
@9an13l
@9an13l Год назад
​@@Sinaebtelling us you're on the spectrum without telling us you're on the spectrum
@rikwisselink-bijker
@rikwisselink-bijker Год назад
One important thing to note is that European companies (almost) always show prices including VAT, because that is what you will pay as a consumer. As far as I'm aware Murrica is one of the few places that shows prices without VAT as a default. So that price will probably be lower than just the conversion, depending on the VAT of the place you order.
@Thatoneguy-o7805
@Thatoneguy-o7805 Год назад
That's partly because it varies widely. Each state sets it's own base level and counties within a state can add on top of that. For instance I can pay between 6% and 8% within an few hours drive.
@einstijn138
@einstijn138 Год назад
Yeah they should mention that. The €249 includes 21% VAT, so excl. tax it's €205.79 or $220.82, instead of the $270 metioned in the video
@jordi95
@jordi95 Год назад
The easy to replace battery is a Huge Plus , you can buy a 2nd one and have it charged and just change the battery when it gets low
@erikpoephoofd
@erikpoephoofd 3 месяца назад
Or just recharge it once a while?
@jamztiberius68
@jamztiberius68 2 месяца назад
If you have two just swap the headphones. Why bother with the battery?
@erikpoephoofd
@erikpoephoofd 2 месяца назад
Carrying a loose battery is a bad idea. If it shorts, you've got a fire. Just carry a powerbank and charge the headphones. Just a few minutes on the powerbank will give you hours of juice.
@jordi95
@jordi95 2 месяца назад
@@erikpoephoofd Just the fact that you cab change the battery whenever you want makes the headphones las much longer, changing the battery on a headphone which hasn't been designed for it is a hassle
@erikpoephoofd
@erikpoephoofd 2 месяца назад
@@jordi95 Yeah it's an absolute game changer for product longevity and should be widely celebrated! Swapping it on the go just doesn't have that many advantages over topping the battery off quickly with a powerbank
@Nubrigtube
@Nubrigtube Год назад
Can I just say how sensible the joystick is for headphones instead of any touch oriented navigation? Having had similar headphones (Urbanears Pampas) with a joystick for controls is something I've wanted other companies to use as well. Especially if the joystick itself is repairable/replaceable. Physical controls will always be better than touch controls.
@ajbp95
@ajbp95 11 месяцев назад
So true! I have a pair from Sony and the touch part is not great. It's easy to change track instead of volume, and the holding of your whole hand over one of the cups to get a fast transparency mode is a good idea in theory but when it keeps activating when I lay on my side it's just annoying!
@josephpmcl1241
@josephpmcl1241 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, touch controls are annoying and an unnecessary technology in headphone controls, especially when buttons are so handy
@opticalmoose8091
@opticalmoose8091 8 месяцев назад
I thought this feature was exclusive to Marshall on/over-ears. Truly awesome UX with a little joystick knob.
@serabc98
@serabc98 Год назад
It's nice to see a repairable bluetooth headphones, but being honest if you want an long lasting, more environment friendly headphones, a good wired one are the best. Less parts to break an good sound that you can use for decades.
@papervws
@papervws Год назад
for sure. I use IEM’s (in ear monitors) with detachable cables, and I attach them to a bluetooth receiver. That way both the cable and the bluetooth receiver can be replaced separately if the battery goes bad - means I shouldn’t have to buy actual new buds for a very long time.
@gotoastal
@gotoastal Год назад
But Fairphone removed the 3.5mm headphone jack on their phones for “sustainability” 🤡
@odeiraoloap
@odeiraoloap Год назад
That's not going to fix the *UNsustainable* and earth-destroying way CURRENT bluetooth earbuds/phones are being made, similar to how FairPHONE is trying to change the unsustainable and earth-destroying smartphone manufacturing process. Also, it's practically IMPOSSIBLE to have wired earphones and have good *active noise cancellation.* You're gonna have to put a battery on the thing to power the ANC-ing microphones, it's only one step away from turning them into bluetooth cans.
@stiegelzeine2186
@stiegelzeine2186 Год назад
@@odeiraoloap it is if everyone would use wired there would be no e-waste and imagine being such a sheep that you believe „fair“phone even tries to change it they only care about money because they’re capitalist scums
@jameshasseriousedoubtsabou560
True! Wired headphones are also so easy to repair. Recently replaced the headband, ear cups and cable on my dt880s and now they are good for another 7+ years
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 Год назад
Considering the price, I was honestly expecting a little better when it came to noise canceling. But I do appreciate how easily repairable it is.
@lilyemma3382
@lilyemma3382 Год назад
unfortunately making sustainable devices is much much more complicated and much more expensive than normal products, and so is making products as a much smaller company. they're just not able to match the performance of other headphones at this price, the same as the fairphone is nowhere near the performance and quality of other phones at that price sadly
@jono6379
@jono6379 Год назад
I do wonder if they will offer upgrades in the future. Could be cool to see them iterate and offer some improved drivers or better ear pads.
@autodidact7127
@autodidact7127 Год назад
​@@jono6379did you hear it?
@DOGMA1138
@DOGMA1138 Год назад
@@lilyemma3382 These products aren't sustainable in any way, they had major design flaws with FP1 and instead of fixing them and providing replacement motherboards they just quickly discontinued it, FP2 replacement parts were also quickly discontinued. For FP3 and FP4 only a handful of replacement parts are available and for things that usually do not get damaged, there are no replacement motherboards available and not schematics you have to use their repair service if you need to replace a motherboard. The price for most replacement parts is also pretty atrocious even when compared to iPhones.
@Entertainment-
@Entertainment- Год назад
Get a pair of Beyerdynamic or Sennheiser. They have manuals and official replacement parts as well.
@jono6379
@jono6379 Год назад
Id like to see graphs in future show how eq presets affect the sound curve.
@corgistaniel1150
@corgistaniel1150 Год назад
Same, right now we don't even know which preset the FR graph represents
@radimbastan
@radimbastan Год назад
The Needle Drop reference was unexpected :D
@arethunessamsonsen6245
@arethunessamsonsen6245 Год назад
I reviewed these last week, and gave them 8 out of 10. Also, note that many headphones' ANC will let human voices through by design, so people can talk to you while the ANC is on. Also, all the parts are available as spare parts, except for the circuit board, so you canæ't build it yourself.
@jonathancormack
@jonathancormack Год назад
Who are you?
@reddwhite4376
@reddwhite4376 Год назад
Can we read or watch that review?
@arethunessamsonsen6245
@arethunessamsonsen6245 Год назад
@@jonathancormack Norwegian tech journbalist.
@rydude998
@rydude998 Год назад
What are you talking about "by design"? No one wants ANC that allows human voices to pass through, the entire point is to noise-cancel ambient chatter not just low-frequency hums on an airplane.
@timschulz9563
@timschulz9563 Год назад
​@@rydude998 That's definitely a feature and not a bug! /s
@franzferdinand5810
@franzferdinand5810 Год назад
God, I love how much Adam has grown. He has full on Linus energy now
@TR-qf2gt
@TR-qf2gt Год назад
and even drops TheNeedleDrop references full on lol 😅
@TheNiteNinja19
@TheNiteNinja19 Год назад
I would imagine the workplace atmosphere is positive like that and it's probably very contagious.
@esond
@esond Год назад
You have no idea.
@ferrousmcgarrus3431
@ferrousmcgarrus3431 Год назад
This comment is creepy.
@TR-qf2gt
@TR-qf2gt Год назад
@@ferrousmcgarrus3431 how tho? they’re talking about Adam’s growth as ahost
@HUKJR
@HUKJR Год назад
This already existed for years: Repeat Audio (formerly called Gerrard Street) which even comes with a lifetime free replacement parts warranty and you can send them back your old parts to be recycled. Source: I got one straight from the beginning and have already had two ear cups replacement so far. :)
@joz534
@joz534 Год назад
thanks for mentioning them. Company, and product, look very interesting. Definitivelly will consider them.
@tjeulink
@tjeulink Год назад
thats a different product though. no fairtrade parts, no recycling, removable battery, etc. and no IP rating.
@Entertainment-
@Entertainment- Год назад
Also Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser. You can still get replacement parts from headphones you bought in 1980
@tjeulink
@tjeulink Год назад
@@Entertainment- you're compating passive things to active noise canceling wireless headphones. Its a bit apples to oranges.
@trowawayacc
@trowawayacc Год назад
🏅🏅 take this poor man gold. awsome sugestion.
@ch4.hayabusa
@ch4.hayabusa Год назад
7:30 "I love talking. I'm not going too stop talking. You cannot stop me from talking" -Jake, LTT 2023
@phoenux3986
@phoenux3986 Год назад
Honestly, these seem pretty great. I'd be willing to pay a bit of a premium for a pair of headphones even if they weren't the best at their price range just for the repairability factor. I've had so many headphones give out on me that just ended up sitting around the house or straight into the trash it's ridiculous. Plus supporting the concept of better repairability/reusing resources is always a huge plus in my book
@phoenux3986
@phoenux3986 Год назад
Though the lack of an actual eq is a bit disppointing. Hopefully that gets added soon.
@alessandrolira4035
@alessandrolira4035 6 месяцев назад
Then don’t buy fairphone then. Building one one these crap Bluetooth fairphones is far less environmentally friendly than just adding a headphone jack in. Which is something they removed to get you to buy these to think you’re “helping” the environment. But it just becomes a more contrived way of NOT doing that...
@sporemaster97
@sporemaster97 5 месяцев назад
@@alessandrolira4035 You can use the Type C connector to use them as a wired set though. Windows natively supports Type C audio, as my mobo has a C port, and I connected a C to 3.5mm adapter just to see and it immediately worked as an output. Worst case you get a USB A to C adapter, oh no, the horror.
@NFMorley
@NFMorley Год назад
To be fair, a lot of higher end headphones are quite repairable and have widely available parts. For example, I've repaired sets from Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser in the past, and they both had pretty extensive varieties of parts available for reasonable prices (inc older models too).
@konishiwoi
@konishiwoi Год назад
Yeah but those (your senn and Beyer) are not the same market as beats, boses, Sony whx0392919 and stuff, which are a pain to repair tho possible only thanks to the sheer amount of units in circulation
@thaddaeusareswolf
@thaddaeusareswolf Год назад
I mean beats, Sony and bouse costs about the same as most Sennheiser and Beyer headphones. Yeah the highest end costs like 600+ but most are in the 150-450 range same as Sony etc. Sony could make them repairable they just don't. Heck Sennheisers drop headphones are $200 and are amazing for their price and are repairable.
@Smothtiger
@Smothtiger Год назад
When it comes to modular design to headphones, TMA-2 by aiaiai comes to mind. Quite a few parts to make it to your liking. I have yet not found if the wireless module has replacable battery like Fairphone has on the XL. Battery usually the part that dies first in my wireless headphones.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar Год назад
@@Smothtiger The battery is also the most dangerous part of the product. If you screw it up replacing it or use a less than reputable replacement it can explode or set on fire... I don't have to explain why that's a bad thing when it's in your years or on your head.
@ruekurei88
@ruekurei88 Год назад
Yup, along with extensive documentation on mods as well for more popular headphones and brands. I just use bluetooth receivers with my wired headphones. Basically anyone can fix a headphone, a bluetooth one is going to be more tricky depending on what's actually wrong.
@5urg3x
@5urg3x Год назад
They missed a huge opportunity to call them "Fairpods" LOL...Apple would've been so mad :D
@KptnAutismus
@KptnAutismus Год назад
My idea would be "Fairphones"
@Supermath101
@Supermath101 Год назад
​@@KptnAutismusHard to distinguish that naming scheme from their main product.
@5urg3x
@5urg3x Год назад
@@Supermath101 What do you mean? Apple’s products? Yeah I know. Lawsuit in the making. Still would’ve been hilarious. And since they don’t even sell to the North American market anyway, maybe it would have worked.
@Supermath101
@Supermath101 Год назад
@surgeyX I was referring to the first reply to your comment. "Fairphones" (headphones) sounds too similar to the "Fairphone" (smartphone).
@5urg3x
@5urg3x Год назад
@@Supermath101 Oh
@jriver226
@jriver226 Год назад
LMG with labs should start working on a green rating for products to tell us how green packing and product are
@felix123418
@felix123418 Год назад
You made a mistake with the conversion of the price for the Fairbuds XL. Considering the american price it is quite sheaper with 225-230 USD at the current exchange rate. That's because we include the tax in Germany (19% MwSt) which makes up about 16% of the total price.
@takatatsura
@takatatsura Год назад
Even though some companies that do this already exists for a while, it's important to have a more "know" one do this kind of product. Also, if you're from Brazil (or have a way to buy from there) there is a company called Kuba Audio that makes a headphone like this (no ANC sadly and the wireless version is very recent yet).
@Tman20rox
@Tman20rox Год назад
One interesting thing is if in the future they’d sell parts so you can upgrade the headphones. Kinda like how with a framework you can upgrade the motherboard and stuff. Maybe you use them for 5 years and somethings wrong with the sound and instead of just buying the replacement part you buy the better quality replacement part.
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood Год назад
Audio hasn't changed much in the last 50 years, so don't expect much better 5 years down the line.
@c.j.hatton
@c.j.hatton Год назад
9:36 - I think the Amsterdam setting was made for EDM; EDM is very popular in the Netherlands
@ficklampa
@ficklampa Год назад
I really do like the repairability, which made me think of getting a pair... until I saw the price tag. I mean, I get using recycled materials adds to the cost, but here in Sweden these are almost $300 (give or take, depends on where you get them - not including shipping). I hope they come out with a bit cheaper model later on, maybe an on-ear version? I am a big fan of that green color though, would match my recycled Nike sneakers... (that was quite cheap!)
@carnsoaks1
@carnsoaks1 Год назад
Someone needs to offer a colouring service, so one can buy any pair and get them painted by 3rd party for like 40 bucks.
@dexter9313
@dexter9313 Год назад
Repairable devices are often more expansive to buy, but considering they can last longer in the long run, it is often a good investment.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar Год назад
@@dexter9313 One of the reasons they're more expensive (other than the engineering needed to make them easily accessible while maintaining strength etc) is because they're often smaller production runs too. A lot of modern kit has more integrated parts to make mass production quicker and easier and to scale better, so it's often the case that things aren't designed to be hard to repair on purpose, but to be easy to manufacture. Some stuff is designed to be hard to fix though, of course.
@ruekurei88
@ruekurei88 Год назад
@@dexter9313 Headphones usually last a long time. You'd probably be better off buying a cheaper pair of normal headphones and a cheaper bluetooth receiver. The headphones are likely to be much easier to repair, but the receiver won't be, but it'll be under $50 anyway.
@kazzxtrismus
@kazzxtrismus Год назад
the only reason why general use headphones are $300 is because "Beats" became a status symbol. and made you normies think thats the going rate...thus exploded the whole arms race based on brag-ability rather than substance...and all the prices went up. premium quality recording studio headphones are worlds ahead of these and are only missing about $40 of old well proven wireless tech...wireless headphones are NOT high tech or bleeding edge. these are worth $100 at best and the snooty posers did a good job of getting the normies used to being robbed blind.....the drivers are basic tech commodity grade and almost NONE exist that are actually researched engineered and tuned...these are picked off the shelf in china and tuned after the fact like almost every single other headphone in existence...and china will change them any way you want with no F's given on how or why you want them "with dents and shiny silver"(cuz thats how a lot of it is done even by major brands)....speakers are tech from the early 1900's and virtually unchanged but for marketing purposes since the 70s....its all marketing and bs but for a very very few....you are all being ripped off
@TehAlekzi
@TehAlekzi Год назад
I've replaced a battery once on a wireless headset and the job wasn't hard at all, had to unscrew 3 triangle head screws and solder 3 wires. The difficult part about it was that the headset used 603040 1S2P battery, which was a bit odd 2 cell configuration and you couldn't buy that particular battery anywhere anymore. I guess that's how they got the higher capacity on them back then when there wasn't too many different battery sizes. I just measured the battery compartment and ordered as big of a battery that would fit and it also had to have the thermistor. And they've worked for a couple of months now when I occasionally use them.
@Som09mer
@Som09mer Год назад
Can't wait to see them on Dankpods Plus repair after 1 Grit hit them
@marx252
@marx252 Год назад
I loved the Vsauce opening lol. So fitting, and I'm shocked it's taken so long.
@Wychfyre_
@Wychfyre_ Год назад
Cant believe i had to scroll so far to see someone mention this
@Furiousme
@Furiousme Год назад
@@Wychfyre_ This!!!!!!
@KopfdesRiesen
@KopfdesRiesen Год назад
It would be nice if there would be graphs for the different presets especially when there is no band eq.
@Jojo_Tolentino
@Jojo_Tolentino Год назад
I'm more interested to get this because of knob controls. Good to see this control scheme adopted instead of buttons or touch sensitive.
@theyruinedyoutubeagain
@theyruinedyoutubeagain Год назад
Loved that fantano reference
@Xfade81
@Xfade81 Год назад
Hope other companies do that battery compartment thing. My Corsair one can be replaced but it's not this easy.
@maartenmidden1651
@maartenmidden1651 Год назад
Also check out Repeat Audio from the Netherlands. Seems like nice repairable headphones.
@Neteruk
@Neteruk Год назад
Best part about sound quality, is that we can always code for it.
@Kytetiger
@Kytetiger Год назад
01:43 lol at the little explosion 😂
@jerome436
@jerome436 Год назад
Just the replaceable battery is more than enough. Easy replacement cable between the 2 earcup are also great.
@prag_un
@prag_un Год назад
9:29 Adam is a melon fan
@Nicros21
@Nicros21 Год назад
Gesundheit as they've shown means Health but also means "Bless you" when someone sneezes
@denisruskin348
@denisruskin348 Год назад
Props to Adam for mentioning how good Boston (band) sounds. That debut album is an engineering wonder.
@TheBismrk
@TheBismrk Год назад
For a company who's all about sustainability, they *really* hate headphone jacks...
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 Год назад
Yeah, they lost all credibility by removing it. Really shows what their priorities still are, profit
@odeiraoloap
@odeiraoloap Год назад
Just get a 3.5mm to type C adapter so you can keep using your wired earphones with or without that port until the Sun swallows the Earth (i.e., become totally future proof) instead of whining about the loss of an ancient port.
@LuminousSpace
@LuminousSpace Год назад
@@odeiraoloap then it wouldnt be sustainable anymore, u need to buy another thing to compensate for another, we dont want to throw away old devices too, that is the point of sustainability
@Okararu
@Okararu Год назад
@@LuminousSpace well or, hear me out, use the bluetooth connection of the bluetooth headphones. I know, it sounds crazy, but it might really work! You could listen to music without a cable! Insane, isn't it?
@2nd3rd1st
@2nd3rd1st Год назад
I think FP had to quickly push the unrepairable buds with their AUX-less FP4 to have a compatible audio solution on offer while they were finishing producing the XLs. I can see them drop the regular pods altogether fairly soon just to get rid of the bad brand synergy.
@SecretAsianMan2222
@SecretAsianMan2222 Год назад
Imagine posting content to RU-vid before Floatplane where people pay to see things first, or at least commercial free.
@joel09015
@joel09015 Год назад
Could you please do an ANC comparison to other headphones? I'd really like to know which frequencies it does better or worse than my Bose QC25.
@misimik
@misimik Год назад
The Fairphone true-wireless earbuds make sense in the way that you can buy and pair replacement charging case or earbud when you loose it, so you don't have to buy whole new set. I had this issue when I lost case for my Sony WF-1000xm3. I managed to buy case from someone who lost their earbud, so I can charge and use mine, but the box's NFC pairing feature doesn't work.
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 Год назад
Ehhh pretty sure u can get a replacement case from Sony themselves
@stiegelzeine2186
@stiegelzeine2186 Год назад
Apple also offers that so that product is a pure money grab wich proves they don’t care about repairability or the environment, only money
@sergeymelkumov9232
@sergeymelkumov9232 Год назад
Just like with Fairphone review, you keep forgetting that they are not only using sustainable materials but also Fairtrade certified. In plain English, in Chinese factories where the same stuff is made for all brands, workers get higher salary per hour when they assemble Fairbuds compare to any other brand . This is done to match livable wage in China and not just minimum wage. This is why they are more expensive.
@DerrickRG
@DerrickRG Год назад
You ACTUALLY believe that? Lol. It's China, they can legally lie.
@gotoastal
@gotoastal Год назад
How about the sustainability of headphones with less moving parts? No Bluetooth, no noise canceling (just a good seal). But they removed the 3.5mm headphone jack from their phones for “sustainability” so you can move from your old, “non-sustainable” headphones and consume and brand new pair from their company.
@sergeymelkumov9232
@sergeymelkumov9232 Год назад
@@gotoastal good job completely missing my point.
@sergeymelkumov9232
@sergeymelkumov9232 Год назад
@@gotoastal p.s. i don´t have to move anywhere, I owned fairphone4 since it was released and plan to stop using it only when it breaks (and not repairable at all). when my current headphones break, I might consider buying fairbuds. if a new model is out there it does not mean I absolutely have to buy it. this is European mentality, learn from it.
@sanjacobs6261
@sanjacobs6261 Год назад
10:10 Thank you for this question! I hate when companies say that something is two opposite things at once
@MrBrandonakaB
@MrBrandonakaB Год назад
I would love to give these a try. I actually really love the repair ability of these.
@karanssh
@karanssh Год назад
That intro was dope 😂
@kwlkid85
@kwlkid85 5 месяцев назад
These are currently being bundled for free with a Fairphone 4 in the UK.
@Forke13
@Forke13 Год назад
Was hoping you would take a look at these
@Kudejikashi
@Kudejikashi Год назад
framework and fairphone hopefully change industry standards
@Dranzell
@Dranzell Год назад
They won't. They're just marketing gimmicks. By the time people actually need to repair their stuff, usually the technology has moved so far forward that they will want to upgrade.
@keonxd8918
@keonxd8918 Год назад
95% of world wide consumers don't care about repairability sadly.
@gotoastal
@gotoastal Год назад
Framework still only offers bad display panels and no upgrades. Fairphone removed then headphone jack and then turned around to sell you headphones. *Needs improvement.*
@user-bp8yg3ko1r
@user-bp8yg3ko1r Год назад
Sad that they don't have a 3.5 mm jack... Looking forward to more sustainable tech from ShortCircuit!
@hananas2
@hananas2 Год назад
I can't believe no one else has done replaceable batteries on wireless headphones, that's already like the biggest thing to make them last longer (in combination with replaceable ear pads but that's pretty standard) Which is also why companies don't wanna do it cuz people buy less new headphones.. :(
@MrNagano00
@MrNagano00 Год назад
Yep. It's pretty easy to believe, making them have a user replaceable battery would be easy but it would mean you turn a 4 year cycle product into 6-7. Completely unacceptable!
@Pratalax
@Pratalax Год назад
I too like that speckled plastic. and that green.
@claudiobizama5603
@claudiobizama5603 Год назад
In therory, headphones aren't hard to repair as long as there are parts available. I hope these get some nice support and upgrades down the line. PS: They also offer TWS, but they arent repairable at all, which is a big shame.
@Entertainment-
@Entertainment- Год назад
Exactly, Beyerdynamic and Sennheiser have been doing it for decades
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Год назад
@@Entertainment- Yeah, I have a pair of Sennheiser HD25sp headphones from 2001 and still going strong. Replaced like 2 cables and cups.
@YOEL_44
@YOEL_44 Год назад
In-ear, on-ear, over-ear (supraural) and around-ear (circumaural). That's all I need.
@MarkFaldborg
@MarkFaldborg Год назад
A nice big XL polyester egg bag. Looks like a five egg capacity. Good value.
@mma93067
@mma93067 Год назад
Can a firmware update improve quality or would it need a hardware update ? Just replacing the circuit board for a newer edition would be cool
@sandorbence2067
@sandorbence2067 Год назад
I wonder if the ANC works wired while it's still charging as well. I'd love to get ANC headphones for computer use but don't want to bother with charging separately.
@hop-skip-ouch8798
@hop-skip-ouch8798 Год назад
Good review, James.
@JaspisB
@JaspisB Год назад
Really like your audio reviews
@jcosme6616
@jcosme6616 Год назад
This is repairable which is great! I'm not sure about you guys, but I've never broken a wireless pair of headphones. The only wired pair I had were the m50x with detachable cables. I say this because will this company even exist in 10 years to supply the part you need? Audio products for me seem to just keep going and going.
@standapp9172
@standapp9172 Год назад
Good audio remains good, if the audio quality is all you care about then if you like these now you'll like them in 20 years as well. As for the parts, most are easy to find from other companies. The batteries for example look pretty standard to me and can be found elsewhere. The logic board is proprietary, but given their track record as a company I don't see how they won't just make the designs open source if they can't produce them anymore. I suspect the 3D printing community and PCB designers are gonna have a field day with this one anyway, if it sells well enough
@AndrewNicholsSeattle
@AndrewNicholsSeattle Год назад
I'd love additional tests for use on windows and microphone quality.
@blockbertus
@blockbertus Год назад
Beyerdynamic (from Germany) does offer basically every part from their headphones separately. So you can repair whatever is broken. Or, if you feel like it, build your headphones from scratch (at a much higher cost, though). ;-)
@jomeyqmalone
@jomeyqmalone Год назад
These remind me of the Aiaiai modular headphones, but those mainly pushed the customizability aspect, with repairability being a nice side effect. The city name based eq, though reminds me of Kygo headphones, and not in a good way. In that app, there was actually a slider between the 4 different cities. What does moving a slider halfway between Ibiza and Berlin even mean in terms of adjusting sound?
@FromHaruspex
@FromHaruspex Год назад
And AIAIAI does refurb/recycling - and I bet they sound MUCH better.
@fffrrraannkk
@fffrrraannkk Год назад
If you listen via a usb c cable plugged into a pc, is there any quality difference compared to a 1/8 inch stereo cable?
@Domspun
@Domspun Год назад
I don’t see this video on Floatplane! How come?
@VigneshBalasubramaniam
@VigneshBalasubramaniam Год назад
No headphone jack on these, and no headphone jack on Fairphones. That's when they lost me.
@carnsoaks1
@carnsoaks1 Год назад
Great video Plouffe.
@ssjaken
@ssjaken Год назад
Vegan Leather is typically laminated cotton/bamboo/similar material.
@teknonmy7210
@teknonmy7210 Год назад
funny thing is Fairphone has had issues supporting the decent Bluetooth codecs and my headphone dongle just crapped the bed two weeks ago after only 3 months of usage
@shotgunmasterQL
@shotgunmasterQL Год назад
I mean yeah, it's kinda mental that they dropped the headphone jack from the phone, forcing you to use a jack or Bluetooth, but their Bluetooth codec support initially was only for SBC and AAC, not LDAC or any of the AptX ones. They apparently introduced support for more codecs, until the Android 12 update broke compatibility with some of them. It's pretty dumb. I have been using a USB-C adapter for 3 months now and it no longer works that well. I don't think the adapter itself is broke, but it's just that even the tiniest movement inside the USB port will disconnect the adapter, it's just so sensitive. Could be that the Samsung adapter I'm using is a POS (sound quality is great), but I'm not sure if I want to risk it by buying a higher quality adapter from a more audio dedicated brand.
@teknonmy7210
@teknonmy7210 Год назад
@@shotgunmasterQL I had the same-ish problem with my dongle. Sound on the right channel was on and off depending on how I bent the dongle, now it's completely intermittent. Ordered a new one from UGreen, it's been in shipping since the 5th.
@rachmanfachri
@rachmanfachri Год назад
the Vsauce reference is already on point IF ONLY the editor use footage from the front-facing camera
@qlum
@qlum Год назад
Just for some correction, the price is € 249 which includes vat, assuming the Dutch vat that would be $ 223, not $ 270. A common error, but still.
@DooMMasteR
@DooMMasteR Год назад
yeah I also wondered, and sure, 19% VAT included....
@grvl307
@grvl307 Год назад
"repeat audio" already did this years ago. In a subscription format. Take a look! Might be cool to feature them in a video! Also a Dutch company, just like Fairphone!
@pa1Z
@pa1Z Год назад
Black one with clear side panel mod would look sick
@StolenJoker84
@StolenJoker84 Год назад
Regarding replaceable batteries. It makes (some) sense that in-ear buds might not have easily replaceable batteries in them - given that there’s a LOT crammed into such a tiny space. However, any full-size headphone - on-ear and over-the-ear types - … there’s no reason why they don’t have replaceable batteries.
@NENathaniel
@NENathaniel Год назад
Will we see measurements for the other EQ Presets?
@itsgood2slide
@itsgood2slide Год назад
11:25 how is the green line above the red line between 1k and 10k? Is the ANC having a detrimental effect in this region?
@Reilaos
@Reilaos Год назад
AIAIAI has existed in this sort of space for a while, but they don't do ANC, which is unfortunate.
@beaudemers8982
@beaudemers8982 Год назад
Is it normal for the videos to come out on RU-vid hours before floatplane? I only recently signed up for floatplane
@homi1001
@homi1001 Год назад
If someone sneezes in you say "Gesundheit!" and it is pretty much "bless you" in German, but the literal meaning is in fact "health" (in other context).
@heath780391
@heath780391 Год назад
I'm probably not the only one here who has said this, but I would love to see this featured in an LTT labs comparison to other brands. A stand alone LTT video would be awesome too.
@diegodoumecq5144
@diegodoumecq5144 Год назад
Does the ear cup material fall apart with the slightest bit of ise like 90% of headphones these days or does it, ya know, have any semblance of quality to it?
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster Год назад
What made you do your own headphone target instead of Harmon?
@xiuxiu1108
@xiuxiu1108 Год назад
Wow an actual music nerd reviewing headphones. I saw that flash of Black Country New Road (10:12). Good stuff.
@DivyanshBalchandani
@DivyanshBalchandani Год назад
Which EQ mode is the frequency response curve measured in?
@rosstemby1347
@rosstemby1347 Год назад
It means good health. That’s why we say it for sneezes.
@kawxke
@kawxke Год назад
the fantano impression was spot on
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 Год назад
Now make it one of the best sounding headphones, good ANC, good build quality and amazing battery life and I'm sold!
@RavingDavith
@RavingDavith Год назад
Loved the Mic and Noise Cancelling tests! Do you guys ever plan on reviewing the Neckband Earbuds Market? I'm rocking a Bose quiet control 30 for the past 7 years and they're only now starting degrade. I work in a machine shop and they pass Health and Safety's standards for ear protection, but theyre discontinued 😢 please help
@pldcanfly
@pldcanfly Год назад
Thats why I love Beyerdynamics. Great Sound, built like a tank, and you can order many many replacementsparts from them. It helps that their design is prolly old enough to drink at this point. And as a user of the Fairphone 4 I can say I am very happy with what they do. It works like a charm, and does what it should. Might not be the most impressive hardware or the best speakers or the crispest screen, but... if I want to play games I have a PC, if I want to listen to music and sink into it I have headphones, if I need to watch movies in great quality I watch them on a tv. For everything else its more then enough. Their pragmatic "no frills or tyos, just what you need, sourced fairly" is so great. I am a fan.
@0106johnny
@0106johnny 6 месяцев назад
The designs kids are getting old enough to drink by now
@lefixes
@lefixes Год назад
In cases where the manufacturer says they have replacement parts I would like to see how many pieces out of the device can be purchased and the total cost of getting every part to make a new device. Sure you can get an iPhone screen replacement part for a broken touchscreen but it costs as much as a different phone
@sonicduck6688
@sonicduck6688 Год назад
You should take a look at Meze audio really great quality and they also sell parts to repair headphones in the future
@petkol122
@petkol122 11 месяцев назад
I really think they should allow full control of the EQ, for people who know what they want and are a bit more serious. I feel like the boominess could be nicely rectified by adjusting the frequencies to ones preferred settings.
@diogovale700
@diogovale700 6 месяцев назад
Can you make a full review on these?
@xiemvitalis4582
@xiemvitalis4582 Год назад
What presets were the measurement on?
@sarux3
@sarux3 Год назад
The Anthony Fantano outro actually scared me. I wasn’t expecting it 💀
@jorismak
@jorismak Год назад
Sont forget 250 euro is often including the sales tax over here. 21% or 19%. So it's 250 euro with sales tax, around 206 euro without. That in USD according to google sits around USD 225. But i guess there will be some kind of import cost somewhere. I actually don't know if it's more common to compare prices with and without sales tax in the US (and also in Canada for that matter ).
@Pendif
@Pendif Год назад
I wish they tested to see if it charged and you could still use them as a wired headphone
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