I was listening on Spotify and thinking this is the least I’ve ever heard Matt talk- like I’m baffled that guy retained all of that information and could recall it and explain it all so well.
@@blutausbeherit Definately getting that vibe. My husband was never formally diagnosed, but he suspects he's on the spectrum. He went to a special school as a kid, total computer nerd and he can talk about Star Trek for days! I fell in love with him over 20 years ago. Found him smart, adorable and delightful eccentric. 😊
I’m 60, a cradle Catholic and looking into the events at Fatima is what tipped the scales for me to reconvert to the Catholic faith after being secular my entire adult life. This young man is brilliant.
If Gideon and Ben Shapiro ever meet it may tear a hole in the space time continuum. I also really enjoyed this podcast, I’ll have to listen to it again to pick up on all the information I missed. Matt did a great job steering the conversation.
It would make a great SciFi movie! Even with a theological twist, it would be a far better flick than the agenda driven garbage that is modern day sci-if.
5:30 Intro 6:29 Summary of Gideon’s story 7:11 Jewish bread (challah) 7:46 Movements in Judaism (Conservative movement is traditional in liturgy but liberal in theology) 9:15 Interest in religion as an atheist 9:35 Interest in history lead to reading the gospels (and discovering a Jesus different to the weird hippy Jewish democrat voting he heard about growing up) 10:55 Jesus speaks with distinct authority and indescribable voice that no one else speaks with 11:24 Debating the evidence for the resurrection (Argument from incredulity) 15:11 Our Lady of Fatima and the argument of alleged mass hallucination 16:33 Initially kept secret the realisation that Christianity was true until he found which is the right type to follow 18:07 Interest in politics lead to joining FB political groups (and found religious people there who turned out to be Eastern Orthodox that mentioned the church fathers and that the church is meant to be passed down from generation to generation) 18:47 Accepts the resurrection of Christ (it was difficult to go from being convinced by the evidence to actual faith in Christ). 19:07 Learning how to pray 20:15 The eastern version of Hail Mary 21:13 Attends church for the first time at the age of 17 when his parents were out of town (describes his experience at Greek Orthodox) 24:16 Jewish summer camp 29:25 Genocide and religion 30:17 Gideon’s parents say he is allowed to be Christian but just not Pro-life 32:39 Writing an English essay in high school convinced him of the Pro-life stance (and it still enabled him to fight for left wing socialist ideals i.e. for a marginalised group and those who cannot speak out for themselves) 34:07 The feedback on a contrarian group paper on ‘Should there be bible study classes on public schools’ showed that the bible is viewed different to other ancient texts in Greek. 34:46 Story about being a Catechumen in senior year (and how some online groups can be toxic) 35:33 The importance of the bible 38:03 First exposure to the Catholic church through a Catholic university 39:07 Gideon’s view on Catholic at the time 39:53 The average Orthodox parish has a more balanced view than what you find online 40:50 Russian Orthodox is more traditional 41:29 Schism between the Greek and Russian (and how it affected where to do his baptism) 43:10 What it was like seeing this Schism about 2 years after becoming a Christian 44:08 There was no a reciprocal breaking in communion by ecumenical patriarch 45:10 Looking at churches from an ethnicity perspective e.g. Irish Catholic or Polish Catholic is not a good argument because they are not breaking communion 46:01 Western rite Orthodox 48:58 What is Epiclesis 50:41 Livestream of St. Patrick Orthodox Church, Bealeton, Virginia. 51:38 Liturgy 52:31 Debating Catholics friends meant he had to do more research 53:09 What is Filioque (and how it affects the metaphysics of the Trinity) 1:04:43 How Duns Scotus reconciled St. Augustine and St. John Damascene 1:05:32 How to view infinity 1:07:35 Why the Essense/Energy issue is confusing to a Thomist 1:09:00 Divine simplicity 1:10:32 Byzantine Scotus youtube channel 1:10:56 Who is right on the Filioque 1:12:12 Gideon’s first Catholic mass experience 1:15:58 Anybody who is a good chanter or organist leave a comment 1:16:07 high mass and low mass 1:18:15 Felt a calling to be Catholic and then first started seriously looking into becoming Catholic 1:18:37 Gideon’s first experience praying the rosary 1:19:58 How he met his wife 1:20:16 Rosary translated into Braille 1:22:54 How changes in enthusiasm do not lead to a change a worldview 1:24:46 God's providence
He describes so perfectly what it’s like growing up as an unorthodox Jew in America today. This is one of my favorite interviews I’ve ever seen and I’m not even Catholic
The Novus Ordo Mass is a holy sacrifice, a gift from God through the Holy Spirit. If your Catholic faith depends on avoiding a liturgy formulated and promulgated by an Ecumenical Council, how strong is your Catholic faith? We are Catholic not despite of the Mass, but because of the Mass, as it is prayed around the world. The Baroque Mass attracts some to the Faith, but its language, and the culture surrounding it, also alienates many others. My personal view is that liturgical diversity is healthy, but that liturgical supremacy is dangerous and toxic. Glory be to God!
Having grown up a non-observant Jew in Israel, then becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses and finally Catholic (with Matt’s help, though he has no idea), I find the jump straight to Orthodoxy both perfectly logical and utterly incomprehensible at the same time.
This is the most content dense podcast I’ve ever heard. This guy is brilliant. I loved his views on evolution. So fascinating. I can’t wait to hear more about it.
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode for many reasons, but I’ll only name one in particular: this was not a typical guest. What do I mean by that? As a listener of PWA for a few years, I’ve come to see a theme in guests: 1) religious, 2) professors, or 3) to a varying degree, Catholic apologists. There are exceptions to the rule. A set of commonalities these type of guests we’ve seen share resides in their practiced: 1) manner of speaking (tone, phrasing, and rhythm), 2) use of a more calm body language, and 3) use of subtle, body language cues to engage the other person in conversation. Professors are naturally the most practiced at these skills. Catholic apologists use these skills in their conference talks. Religious (priests or religious) are the most varied, but owing to the grace of the vocation and practiced ability to even out their temperament, they’re able to typically get by within most conversations. Our guest today may have made many of us feel uncomfortable owing to his untrained manner of public speaking, as well as quick tempo. Our guest today raised to the conversation more varying topics in a short amount of time than most guests, which may have resulted in some of us feeling a bit scatter-brained. Our guest today is very smart but at the same time is still very young (22). With this comes a situation where we want to listen but at the same time are hesitant to really listen owing to our own biases. Our guest today was like all of us when we were rapidly coming to know the truths of the Catholic faith. He is more like the young men in your parish who are on fire for the faith than you might think (at least in trad-world). I was a convert at 19. I understand this level of rapid enthusiasm accompanied with vivacious reading habits and a desire to say all the facts with their underlying connections before noticing the other person’s face! :) Listen with an open heart, an open mind, and with only 75% speed. ;) +JMJ+
It’s east coast rapid fire intellectual with keen memory and understanding. I bet he thinks even faster and having to verbalize slows him down considerably.
Loved his joy filled enthusiasm!! As a scattered ADD person- I completely followed the entire thing with no issues!🤣 The more I listened the more I smiled and wanted to continue hearing his thoughts and ideas! We’re all on paths at different places, and his diaries to understand is wonderful!!
Loved to hear the defense of young Earth creationism! It blows the mind when you first hear it. You reflexively want to dismiss it out of hand, because atheistic Darwinian evolution is all you’ve ever been taught . But, the Darwinian model is false. I’m grateful that Matt Fradd allowed an open discussion on this important matter. Please do that Creationism debate, you mentioned, Matt!
I know I’m supposed to think this guy is brilliant, but i am noticing how much fun he is to listen to. I hope his parents read the comments. The should be so proud!
I'll bookmark this video and come back to it every time I'm tempted to call a 21 or 22-year-old a "kid". Good night. Very well read and insightful. Learned a lot from this podcast thanks so much.
Yes, please have him back to discuss this more! I'm curious if Catholics are unaware of how many people *do* lose their faith over the issue of evolution? I have known many people who learn macroevolution in school and it becomes a huge stumbling block to their faith. The idea that science and religion are incompatible is still widely believed, and maybe that's where the fear to open that can comes from, but I think his point is important. Science is not dogma, so why leave it there?
A bit of science separares from God. A lot of science leads closer to God (Louis Pasteur). Yes, young peuple should learn from Pasteur, Leibniz, Blaise Pascal, Descartes who were universal genius and Christian (mostly Catholics)
And so many people who argue, even yell out "Science!" have very little knowledge of the vastness, complexity and very inconclusive nature of scientific mysteries. The simplicity of 19th century Darwinism doesn't stand up to the computer like complexity of DNA (which Darwin knew nothing about) and with physics and astronomy, I tell my atheist friends that they can get back to me with their conclusions once we know what dark matter is or what's smaller than the smallest subatomic particle and how it works or if they can tell me what is in any of the other dimensions pointed to by string theory.
I am a scientist who used to study evolution. I think the most compelling answer is something similar to what Johnathan Pageau suggests in this podcast ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZQ43i5nKuZk.html i think it allows for both the standard model of evolution and the creation story in genesis to be literally true. I never bought into young earth creationism or really thought that the Gods days are different than human days explanations were very good
@@koolcoral7514 I haven't watched this but in my view I always noted that when Cain is cast out, there are already other humans around. I view Adam and eve as created humans who's intended role was as high priest and priestess to humanity. It's also the only way that I can see around the fact that non sapiens hominids did in fact exist. InspiringPhilosophy has some great videos on it even if some of his views are a bit heretical.
Thank you, as ever, for a thought-provoking video which I, an uncomfortable lowish church Anglican looking into Anglo-Catholicism and Orthodoxy, needed to hear. How delightful, Mr. Frad, to hear that a book by you was made into Braille. If I may, things can only be transcribed into Braille, not translated, as it is only a different writing system. Either way, good material is extremely hard to find here in South Africa, particularly anything Christian. People seem to think that we blind people all love ebooks. Of course, we do not; I particularly object to praying from them... Well, enough of that. Thank you for your good work. May our Lord's blessing be upon you.
God bless you Gideon, and may Our Lady cover you in her mantle of protection! To clarify one point: the three children of Fatima were NOT told beforehand what kind of miracle would take place on October 13, 1917. They were merely told by Our Lady that she would perform a miracle, so that all might see it and believe in God. They came, they saw, they believed! I recommend the book 'Our Lady of Fatima' by American writer William T. Walsh, published in 1946, where he interviewed the still liviing parents of Sts. Francisco and Jacinta
I listened to this young man before on Reason and Theology, God has a mission for this man. God Bless him, I pray my sons are filled with love for the Truth as much as he is.
I have met Gideon. He was at CUA while my son was there. We had a delightful chat about St. Augustine’s confessions and some steps that might help him in getting a job as a Latin teacher. God bless him.
This young man is very smart. I appreciate this, because I am in RCIA because I researched things and came to Catholicism by research and God calling me. Im proud that we have him within our faith.
This young man is awesome! The way he reads the Fathers from East and West, the Scholastics, and understanding that he is learning more about the faith; this is my philosophy but I also include Protestants authors in that mix (more combination of good and bad to sort through here).
I also read a number of Protestants as well. James Jordan and Peter Leithart have been especially influential on me. See the review on my channel of Leithart’s Delivered from the Elements of this World.
@@thebyzantinescotist7081 I have not read much Leithart but I am aware of who he is. Good suggestion! I have been going through Scripture on my channel, one book at a time.
@@thebyzantinescotist7081 I heard you mention Leithart in the stream so I didn't meant to imply you do not read Protestant authors. The reach into the world of Protestant theology is probably a bit broader in my library was all! 😁
Well, that took a turn! I was listening to this as a podcast and had to stop the car when it veered Young Earth. All for it! That last 20 minutes was a great bonus track and I hope the follow up debate happens, especially if Lapide plays into it. Great show as always. Ave Maria!
I love how well informed he is on creationism - that truly Revelation is the lens and our guiding light for Reason her handmaid, that theology is the Queen of the sciences and that all things must be subordinated to it. Quite so often, evolutionism is treated as the super dogma that all things, even the Scriptures, must be subject to.
@@thislong858 agree with you both 100. People like Jimmy Aikin and Trent Horn perpetuate the lie that Christianity, and of course I mean traditional Catholicism by that, is compatible with the antichrist molecules to man evolutionary theory. It was literally designed to erase God, and to seem wise to the world they’ve become fools. You literally have to believe that while God could have created us in one instance, he instead took billions of years of pain, death and deformity of his creations to bring about “humans“ in the wounds of sub human primates. So Scripture is lying when were taught sin brought death into the world. It gives us a distorted theology and absolutely will lead someone away from Christ. No other way about it.
Honestly that’s sort of where I got off the train, trying to support young earth creationism seems silly to me. Like he said earlier in the podcast there are other cultures who’s historical records go back farther then the young earth model says is even possible. I’d listen to a debate from him about creationism but I think DNA evidence alone demonstrates a common ancestor.
This Is the BEST explanation of What happened in Christian theology iv ever heard or read. This young man is a gift ( to me anyway). I first listened on Spotify but came here so that i could share him with others!
He is very intellectual and seems like someone who has photographic memory. I enjoyed listening to this while folding and ironing my clothes. Looking forward when you come back as guest again 😊
Captivating! God bless you Gideon and Matt and all involved in making this show. The Christian charity you demonstrate in discourse is beautiful. My brain will be "rattling" with my heart longing....will most likely watch this again. Thank you.🕊🙏💕
Loved Gideon. So much energy. And I have to admit that he did take me from “Oh my gosh I was loving this dude until he comes out as a young earth creationist” to “Okay, I get what he’s saying about presuppositions and having the conversation. That makes sense. After all, there are some things that évolution cannot explain”
A shout out to Mr. Lazar, "Way to Go! Very interesting!" From your Regina Caeli students. Yes, Ren watched the whole 2 plus hours, says he's now done his History and Religion homework by watching.
Wow... What a wonderful guy G.Lazar is I never ever heard such a wonderful interview on Catholicism very much knowledge the genius boy have. Congratulations to organisers for producing a knowledgeable episode God bless you all.
I feel the same way why does everyone attack the Catholic Church and why would Satan fight to destroy the church so hard if he already had it? He wouldn’t… and also I agree how would 80,000 people all have the same mass hallucination. Scientists agree that it isn’t possible.
Thomas Merton, in the Seven Story Mountain, describes how the enemy attempts to obfuscate the greatest goods in a shroud of scandal. *Corruptio Optimi Pessima*. Merton explains, “Since evil is the defect of good, the lack of a good that ought to be there, and nothing positive in itself… it follows that the greatest evil is found where the highest good has been corrupted.” Gideon in 1:27:39 seemed to be alluding to this idea. Matt’s rebuttal is clever in that, when discerning which “denomination” has the fullness the truth, merely claiming the presence of demonic oppression or attack amongst a particular faith denomination doesn’t necessarily equate to which faith has the fullness of the Truth. However, Gideon’s response here is beautiful in that he says “yeah I don’t think this is sort of the final proof of it, but I think that it’s a sign that points to it” Granted, Matt does continue to play Socrates here and Gideon continues defending and sharing the witness of his new found Catholic faith within reason… but I think that if you just slow down here for a second you can find a nugget of, if not mystical truth, wisdom. The wisdom that, the mere presence of the enemy engaging in a Spiritual Battle with an individual or entire faith, only goes to show that if evil lurks around every corner ready to deprive the good, a very real good that IS present in the object that “evil” is trying to strip of its goodness. Now if this is the order one finds themselves in a postlapsarian world, and there are varying degrees to which one is aligned to the truth, and the order of goodness is being fought both within man, and with a force outside of man; it follows that, the closer man gets to that truth, the more shocking it would be were one to be corrupted with it. Thats why God inspired James to warn those who wish to be teachers of the Church “Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, for you know that we who teach shall be judged with greater strictness.” James 3:1 “If I have the gift of prophecy and comprehend all mysteries and all knowledge; if I have all faith so as to move mountains but do not have love, I am nothing.” 1 Cor 13:2 God bless you and your ongoing witness to the faith. Stay yoked. Keep fighting the good fight (;
That opening screen makes it seem like Aquinas and Dawkins are equally matched... they really aren't. I'm not sure if 50 years from now people will even know who Richard Dawkins is.
Matt! You interrupted him right where his paradigm argument was getting good! The circles thing was really cool! This guy required patience to get to the good stuff, but man, it really is there.
Old prayer for Russia, Gideon. Prayer For Russia. Our Lady of Fatima, gently look down On each Russian village and city and town; Dear Star of the Morning, now cleanse in thy beams The Red Star of Russia that balefully gleams. In Our rosaries rise to thee, Lady of Light, Oh, hasten the dawn of the world's weary night. We trust in thy power; one plea to thy Son And Russia's converion will swiftly be won.
He started reading the church fathers and realized “they don’t talk about tradition very much, they just talk about the Bible all the time.” Amen and hallelujah.
5/20/23 I am thrilled that "one so young" is not afraid to learn the truth, keeps searching, wanting to know. I hope he never stops, and that he passes on what he learns to all of us. May his faith grow deeper as his knowledge increases.
This was great. I'm a Catholic who has been discerning becoming Orthodox for awhile now (I attend a Byzantine Catholic church). I have even recently been learning about Our Lady of Fatima as possible evidence for the Catholic faith. This kind of interview was exactly what I needed.
As a person who has eaten challah bread...nothing compares. Best bread ever. French toast, grilled cheese, dip it in the soup...or just bread and butter. Great stuff.
I’m trying to keep up with everything you are saying...I’ve been Catholic all my life but I am definitely still learning things everyday. So...I stopped the video at epiclesis and this is why...I’m not sure if you said that there are some rites that took that out and some that kept it. I actually had never heard the work epiclesis until I think 2019/2020? This is why I even head about it in the first place...i went to mass on a Sunday as usual. On that day there happened to be the archbishop of Ottawa, two priests, a deacon and a seminarian. The archbishop gave the homily and spoke about the Eucharist. I listened intently despite being alone with my two often rambunctious children. He spoke about a survey that had been done recently regarding how many people actually believed in the real presence. I could observe the pain in his face as he spoke of this and I was very moved. During the consecration of the gifts (usually a bit of a stressful time with the kids) I managed to ask the children to kneel but then very unusually I managed to shift focus 100% to what was happening at the altar. I was aware of the children but I preoccupied about them (I worry about their behaviour at church all the time!). Anyway, I was really somehow hyper focused on the altar and as the archbishop asked the Father to send his Holy Spirit on the gifts (which I now know is the epiclesis) I saw the shadow of a bird go from one side to the other. It was impressive and I remember my head moving to follow the bird in a movement kind of like a rainbow from one side over to the other. Now, there is a huge skylight above the altar so I assumed that it must have been a perfectly timed bird and inwardly thanked God for that beautiful coincidence. At the end of mass I asked everyone I knew if they saw that beautiful display and it turned out nobody, absolutely nobody saw it. At this point I questioned if I really saw what I saw. But I was convinced I did, just confused why I was the only one who saw it. Even the priests didn’t see it. I let it go, and the only thing that somewhat bothered me was why God would want me to see this, not that it bothered me, not at all, but what does he want me to do with this? Perhaps he was just happy that I paid attention at mass? Maybe to experience His goodness? Well sometime later after doing chores at home for a few hours I decided to sit down and eat while listening to I think it was Scott Hahn on the meaning of the mass and an explanation of all its parts. It was a cloudy day. Then all of a sudden the sun came out, shone on my phone (where i was listening to the lecture) and there it was, Scott Hahn started to explain the epiclesis! I remember writing to a friend about it and telling the children. So all this to say...don’t ever let anyone tell you that the epiclesis doesn’t belong in the mass. It is true!
This young man is truly remarkable. Thanks for having him on. Wonderful treatment of the filioque. And, Matt, excellent job on your part, too-great interview and conversation all around.
It was great to hear from you Gideon Lazar! It's not many Catholics who are brave enough to stand up for a literal Genesis and age of the earth. You are not alone, and I can't wait to hear more from you sometime on what you discover! You are right, there is incredible science that supports young earth creationism, and explains the evidence in that context. I'm a convert myself, and went through a different, but similarly rigorous journey where eventually I could not deny the truth of Catholicism any longer. Peace Brother.
I am reading Byzantium by Judith Herrin, I recommend . Thank you Gideon for sharing your wisdom and experience. I am enjoying you and learning. God bless you.
I was listening to the podcast when I decided to go watch it instead, because I was so repulsed by Gideon’s whiny voice. But I kept watching because he makes so much sense and was hooked by his reasoning (“because it’s true”) - the same reasoning that converted me from atheism. I even sent this interview to my 20 year old son in the Marine Corps, so persuasive did I find Gideon’s reasoning. (My son is a faithful Traditional Catholic too.) God bless him. Compelling.
May I suggest editing your comment to not be so rude in the first sentence? Simply share that you found his argument compelling after first being resistant. He’s not whiny, and simply because you don’t like the tone of his voice no need to insult the young man.
So many great interviews with so many amazing people. God bless Matt and his team, all his guests and everyone watching. Amazing times, God is doing a new thing in the world, I get the feeling its swelling underground and about to bloom forth, please Jesus.
I can appreciate Gideon's excitement - also at his age I came (from Protestantism) to Orthodoxy and then read my way (back) to Catholicism, but I would caution him to be really humble and slow to present himself publicly as a teacher (which he clearly aspires to having the YT channel in the format that it has). Give it 5-10 more years, Gideon, it's worth to be a disciple for a while to avoid certain traps that lie in the way of bright young people - which you clearly are.
Could not disagree with you more than he should wait a decade before publicly creating in apostolate. Gideon is clearly very humble, not afraid to admit when he handled things poorly or has learned something new. That’s exactly what young people need. Not more polish, but truth and honesty. Jimmy Aikin is knowledgeable and super polished, always seems to have a quip - and he promotes some very awful things. Especially a young faithful man speaking out about the evil of so-called Catholics promoting and adopting evolution as a worldview.
Definitely a good conversation. And great insight and I love how he comes to the faith. That said, this whole conversation went so fast despite the long length. I think this should have been split into two.
Oh wow, props to Matt , brilliant interviewer!!👏🏻 Gideon seems extremely intelligent and curious but his thoughts gets flighty . Happy to hear he is a Marian devotee, our Blessed Mother will lead him to the truth and find his purpose and meaning , in the Catholic church🙏🏼❤️
