our love is abused | Cyberpunk: Edgerunners 

damn right, i'm from argentina, 25, and i can relate

I feel ya, brother. 23, Brazilian and I've already lost many friends from my child/teenhood to the crime life. Some bits of this story hit way harder than they should've.

Panama... it's more insidious in here. Not so much as crime life, but it is awful to see people you love normalizing slaving away to a company that won't ever acknowledge your existence, knowingly doing so and sucking it up cause "there's no other choice" But as a friend put it... "Night City? Yeah, that's just your typical third world city, only sci fied

Stay strong Man

@@teteuzero2011 That's terrible, I hope you've found peace; That's not something anyone ever deserves to happen to them.

finally someone gets it. had david not asked for her to live on in his place, she'd be gone the very next day. Every living second she's haunted my thoughts and dreams and guilt and yearning for david, the absolute only EXISTENCE in her heart. It only gets harder the more you dig in and learn the truth. Lucy really IS the one that's built different.

The last episode is called "My Moon, My Man". The moon is her dream, and David became her moon. She didn't care to go anymore because he was her moon. And when he was gone, she ended up going literally to the moon, but it wasn't *hers*.

@@rebaa2175 please this is so sad

@@rebaa2175 yeah it is too depressing. They left her in a bottomless pit without an exit. Anyone who have gone through even a bit of depression before understands that for lucy every second awake is torture. It is just too much.

Yes i like this video up till the end where he tried to say the moral of the story was to live for yourself. When by design, we as humans are happiest when we live for each other not our selfish desires depsite how hard that can be

living for others was something you see out of david the entire series, straight a's for his mother, the moon for Lucy andrunning the gang for Maine, the only dream he had was helping achive theirs, he died happy even if it weren't what Lucy asked of him

Until a couple years ago, I was pretty similar. I followed the dream my mother set for me. A "good" job that pays. Translation, a lot of stress to be unhappy, but comfortable. In high school, I didn't think of anything about my life but being with my partner who treated me awfully. So, when I eventually woke up, I paid a lot of money and wasted a lot of time to have never even tried to be happy for myself. So, I never learned who I was or what made me happy. Now that I'm trying, I see I hardly have the time to survive, let alone figure out who I am. We're pressured to figure out our dreams and desires in a world which doesn't care for them, or the fact that it'll take us all a different amount of time to figure it out. Everything is stacked against dreams, so other's look really appealing. They're right there, and they're easy to dedicate to as direction. I don't have a solution, or something positive to say. We may never figure out our dreams. But we have the potential to make a world where people can. We can change things to help achieve a lot more dreams than our own, at least

@@ProfessorViral thanks for responding it's nice to know that I'm not alone in my struggle and maybe I could figure it out since I'm younger and have more time to figure myself out but that can wait, I'm gonna go to a party with a friend and have some fun :) maybe thats all I need right now i love your channel even tho its depressing

I have dumped a person that isn't putting that much effort into the relationship as I am. I sucks that I always wants to involve this person in my future but it will be a past now. As someone who grew up in Asian culture I was stricken with expectations that is created from other people with good intentions. I am slowly nudging myself into the right direction.

bro what you said is not even the most heart breaking thing about the show. Anyhow i hope you;re coping well and get over it soon. If you have any else to share im all ears.

@@LinhNguyen-zg9kn thank you so much I really appreciate the number of people that feel the same way i do and i have been feeling better since i’ve been just hyper-focused on my self and my well being and now im feeling a bit better but i still deeply miss her but i at least dont feel like i need her i just wished she was more open to me about what shes thinking and feeling so i could understand her better and know why she left in the first place but thats a whole ‘nuther rant of its own tysm everyone

Man, I wholeheartedly disagree. Lucy only goes to the moon because it was David's dying wish for her to go, and by that point she didn't even care about the moon anymore. David had BECOME her moon, all she wanted was to be with him and find happiness together. And that dream died with David. Also, she didn't escape to the moon to be free from Arasaka. We literally see that she went on a tour. Round trip. There is no freedom to be found there, as the rampant commercialism of Night City has extended into space. The ending of the show is devastating because Lucy finally got to live her "dream" at the cost of everything and everyone she loved, but it was nowhere near worth the cost. David thought he was exchanging his life to give Lucy the ultimate gift, but it was actually an awful curse. The story does have a moral about genuine human connection, and how it's worth infinitely more than things and experiences that can be bought with money, but that moral is driven home by the hopeless ending. Edgerunners is a tragedy, in the traditional sense.

That feels like every kid who got told a good paying job would make life happy, only to find they worked their ass off to succeed, and are now just unhappy and stressed, but with more money. The money helps for sure, but when the effort of trying to be happy in life ends up becoming just monetary gain, it says a lot about our world

@@ProfessorViral Pretty much yeah, thank God I'm a glass half full kinda guy. Doesn't take much for me to be at the very least comfortable. Still haven't achieved my dream yet, but hey I'm patient.

@@joecrazy9896 i understand that, yet I feel so lost aimlessly wandering to my career. which has been so depressing

​@@ProfessorViral that's if you let capitalism brainwash you, if you got money you can be happy you just have to know what you want in life imo

@@ProfessorViral Happiness is success. There's people who have little to nothing yet are so happy while some others who have it all are miserable. Happiness is the true gift of mankind that everybody can achieve and financial status should not be the main focus in life, instead happiness should be.

Fair; that's something I would have changed the wording of with more time on this one for sure, I hate to imply that changing it is impossible in our world

Stranger with memories. So I need to tell you to never stop for anyone except those who stop for you. It's easy to choose someone who you like but to choose those who choose you is another type of magic that everyone needs. It's rare to know this secret.

I wanted to update this and say we patched things up. The root of the problem is we’re not the same people we were in college 10 years ago, and that’s ok. She’s still one of my best friends but she can’t just be my end all be all friend to the end. She has her hands full becoming a doctor and I want to support her, but at the same time I have to respect she needs some breathing room to work things out for herself. Thanks for the support regardless and I hope you’re all doing well too :)

@@nhlcbjseems you took the advice then just keep running even if it’s head on with the problem

I'm good, I want other people to be happy just as much as me

I would say smashers path is just going full chrome. Fully embrace the Borg and reject humanity. Ascend past them as a higher being clad in metal instead of flesh. It's why smasher had some respect for David. He handled the gift of chrome better than most just like smasher.

If he agreed to smashers proposal, he would have made a very interesting construct . But oh well.

We go jim

get go, swole broke

What does this mean?

@@coldboltlighting1237 The idea that the thing you think will bring you profit is in fact doing the exact opposite and yet you continue to do it anyway. While I don't necessarily subscribe to the saying in it's original more common form, what it is trying to describe is true in a lot of circumstances.

He got richer after getting swole. Technically I don't even think he died broke, his gigs made him a lot of money.

So, she shifts to be similar to his mindset, achieving something for someone else, but not entirely for their sake, and honoring their memory if they're gone. That's a bit that puts a better spin on it, a sort of middle ground where it can be less dangerous for sure

Even if it hurts, yes. Even if it's alone? No. Extreme loneliness is hard enough in a normal context. I think the creators of the show is seriously downplaying the loneliness they left her with after everyone's death. That combined with the trauma will 100% kill her.

@@ProfessorViral interesting

I agree, she grew a lot as a character (in such a short time span), as did her dream. She wanted to escape Night City for her own sake but after talking (especially their first conversation), being with, and loving David, she learned that she can rely on others to make her happy, which makes us fundementally human. While she may have lost everyone she cared about, she has learned to carry on and honor the dreams and ambitions of those she loved and trusted. It's cliche but David lives on in/with her, since he gave his life and soul to her when he made the decision to throw away the rest of his humanity to save her.

@@charlieberry7562 haha our inner comservative beliefs. I sure have them too 😂

It's easier to do that. It seems more concrete and settled, easy to jump into rather than finding

@@ProfessorViral The unknown has always been a hurdle for most people like the edgerunners they may live a good life now and find themselves on the run a day later. I guess it’s the thrill of unknown future that fuel their lives just to have a glimpse of the path they have yet taken.

For the longest time, I held the idea that the only right way to live was entirely for myself. From what I was taught by my parents, to feeling the hurt of heartbreak, I believed living for others was simply weakness. I think that shows in how I wrote this video. But, as I did I started to think about why I felt that way, and I found it was because I was never left the time, energy, or opportunity to find both myself, and others. That's shifted my mindset a lot. I try not to blame everything on the world around me, because some things will always be my own fault, but this is one I won't forgive the structure of our world for for a while

@@ProfessorViral society almost punishes people for thinking that way, while I really think its counteractive to the human condition and how we get the most out of life. I've just been operating on the belief "The only thing we know is we have each other. Life is miserable enough, it makes no sense to make it miserable for another human being." I know everyones life is only their own, but its enriched to the brim when you are touched and touch the life of other people in a positive and meaningful way.

We mut not suffer,,or at least we must not suffer to have purpose , its just often happening and we have to make the best with the worst that jut happens just because.

@@ProfessorViral rurouni Kenshin. The samurai x movies/ovas from the 90's. Of course his beginnings with him found mistaken for dead in the aftermath of a battlefield calls back also to guts from berserk. It's hard to parse the difference between being angry and resentful of being born into a world that seems dead set on consuming us and trying to avoid responsibility. I feel often when I try to express how wrong the world is, how it feels like I also am saying something easily interpreted as wishing the world could be handed to me. Or conversely, trying to argue that someone should be kind of compassionate, and getting the answer of "so what" which hits like a 15 lb sledgehammer to the nuts: you know that there's not an answer that is going to change or satisfy them. There is no god which will split the heavens and smite them away. It's just sadness in knowing that instead of removing anguish and pain from the world they choose to contribute. Requiem from the darkness's final story arc. The people imprisoned and forced to torture their wives and husbands and children. The acts of depravity slowly teaching them to enjoy depravity, and to seek out more and more depraved acts. The general atmosphere itself causing the birth of an incredibly evil being. In some ways it's a metaphor for how "evil" itself is perpetrated and proliferated through the world. Between the utter meaninglessness and the way evil can spread and be passed along/amplified, the only real option is to rally against it, and to use one's anger to fight it. The problem lies in staring into the abyss. To become what you are fighting against....

I think there are points he could have for sure. But I wonder, should he have? Is happiness in an awful world just complacency and acceptance that it is awful? He was fighting that, and he was punished for it

@@ProfessorViral yeah I get that but I think his thought process being like that kinda led to his downfall to. If you’re goal is to be a king of a dumpster anything other then that may seem like complacency but in all honesty I think staying on that path shows more complacency. As much as Night city sucks no one ever really leaves or tries to because they see it as the only life the could possibly live instead of venturing out into the unknown in order to find fulfillment. I think that change is more scary than going crazy. Lucy choose to leave night city to accept that she wasn’t special and go into the unknown in order to find a new brighter path. None of the other characters could do they stayed and died. It’s similar to how a lot of rich people fall into hedonism in their thirties because they were to afraid to enjoy life and a balance of joy and work in their 20’s.

This is so long I am so sorry 😅

I think that the only way for any character to truly be happy was to give up trying to make it big in the city and leave. the only one with an actual goal, an actual reason to make money was Lucy, all the others were just making money to make money, because they wanted to be big shots, and David was no different, he knew that the only thing actually worth a damn, was helping Lucy make her dream come true. In the game it's similar, when you just try to survive and make it big, you achieve nothing, it's when you try to actually make meaninglful connections with people who care about you, and when you decide either to leave or to fight that you make a difference either in the city or in your life.

@@ProfessorViral that's interesting that you bring that up because the creator of the ttg Mike Pondsmith always thought of cyberpunk as a genre where you don't save the world, you can't save it, you can only save yourself.

Hi roach Dogg jr

Cheers, you're not the only one. A lot of us have a thing or two to learn from the story of Lucy, David and the crew. Remember what Maine says. The only person that you can truly rely on is yourself. The second you start using (a crutch), you essentially take yourself out. Become the person that you know you are capable of being. Love yourself the way you expect your partner and parents and friends to love you, whether you've got them or not. Each failure is a lesson to be learned, do not reject the truth because denial will only shove you deeper into the dark. Focus on yourself, build your foundation up like David did, but do not be so young and naïve that you fall victim to your own impressions of other people. Use your God given empathy to deduce that everyone else is just like you, different stages of their own journey but all human just the same. They know not what they do (to you) so give yourself the grace of forgiveness for anyone who has done you wrong. There are lessons to be learned even from those who seek to harm you. After all, we can't stay young and naïve forever, just like how David abandoned part of his humanity (hanging on to his mom's ideals) to start using his chrome side-piece (pistol) in order to protect Lucy from the cyberpsycho. The lesson I've learned from David is that in order to achieve your greater purpose and protect yourself from the powers that be in this grim world, you must embrace the inner darkness (psychopathy) without abandoning your light (humanity/empathy) lest we become the monsters that once terrorized us, and project that damage outwards onto others. Do not live only for yourself, but enough so that you can support and protect yourself, so that you may live up to your potential to project your goodness and light unto others. We were shown at a young age what value we had for ourselves based on the amount of love and care and the way we received by our caretakers as children. Growing up without certain parental figures such as a missing father can lead to impressionable, vulnerable, angry youths. As adults it is our responsibility to mend our childhood wounds, and fix our self worth value to accurately represent what we truly deserve as good people. First comes self love, then comes the radiance of that self love outwards unto the world, and then a reflection of that love back unto us by a partner, a dear friend who is attracted to our energy because they too radiate their self love, by brimming with confidence, expression in healthy ways, and displaying love and passion for the things that we hold dear. For those struggling, do not let the weight of the world turn your heart cold and black. Instead, acknowledge your potential and take as much weight of the world as you can seek to bear, and pressure that blackened heart into shining brighter while standing firm like a diamond. Accept every experience that the world can throw at you with the firm belief that you will make it out on the other side improved, having gained more from it.

@@Cool20xis thank you for your reply, i'll take the love, care and hope you put into it and take it everywhere i go as a reminder.

​@@wolfdogdav You're gonna carry that weight, space cowboy.

Keep moving forward. If you're a writer, write everyday. A story will form and will have value one day.

Life is meaningless, 5 billion years from now the sun will blow up. Everything around you will dissipate and disappear one day, every form of music, art & technology will be gone. Here’s how I look at it though: if life is meaningless let’s give it a meaning, let’s find a meaning. If you feel like life’s passing you by listen to some music and go on a walk for me. Take in everything, eat different food. It’s not pointless. You just gotta be the one to find the point. Or maybe we’ll find out one day that trying to be in the pursuit of that point is the point we needed all along to keep going. If you’re gonna die, you’re gonna die there’s no changing that but you can choose how you get to die and what you do in the meantime up until that point, so don’t waste it. Let’s live, lets have a fucking ball. It’s too precious to take for granted. Take care stranger.

@@beCoCOi thanks for the advice!

@@dylanmuniz8390 Thanks for the kind words and motivation! It's just sometimes disheartening when everything is tied to money and time. It's like if I have one, then I don't have the other to live life to the fullest? Idk just dumb thoughts lol

There's definitely been times where I've taken small details for more than they were, and times where I missed big ones for what they are, but I'm glad there's something interesting in it, at least : )

Thank you, those are very meaningful words, and I needed them 💙

It might just be a natural reaction to such oppressive forces. Combining two wills into one to hope it succeeds

Thank you!

Hey, thanks for sticking around, glad you enjoyed the video!

Hey, thanks as always! 😁👍

@@ProfessorViral 😀 👍

True in the end, only thing waiting for David was a desk job and being pushed around by higher ups with no chances for promotion. As Arasaka is very selective with its workers. If you are not japanese you have very low chances to get high. Unless you dont play fair like your boss from corpo path.

Thank you very much : D

Everyone is, at some point. Stories exagerate the conditions they came from, so every present will have that feeling of the future, I think

A free and open spread of ideas is a good thing for sure, but we have to be careful of keeping it such. If love is abused, any good thing will be, as we see corporate algorithms deciding what we do or don't see, the fight is still very tough for communication and ideas

@@ProfessorViral That is so unequivocally true and it will take lots of hard work to fix but I think the ability to have this moment that I'm sharing right now with you, is key. Movements are starting and they're all over online right now that corporations are trying to oppress of people rising up. I'm a pretty learned guy, I can tell you've got some great ideas too. Now we just have to stand together and we may yet win a war on classism.

Happy I could make it, thank you!

Being a work listen is an honor 🙏

It means a lot just to hear that, my writing must be getting better haha

Perfection may be the goal, but it's important to have that goal because the real goal, the real satisfaction, is to improve and to strive and to master something. It's not the destination but the path, however, to find the path, you need a destination in mind...

I'm struggling with happiness in regards to this idea. The thing that makes the human race what it is is desire for something better. We thrived because we decided to wander, to build, and to improve. Our achievements all depend on the idea that we know things can be better, whether for us or everyone. Our default state is unhappiness. So, I wonder if there's even a point to trying to be happy, because in most people i talk to their satisfaction boils down to complacency with not being happy overall. I think that's a big part of what feeds the ideas in this one, as well

100%. I honestly should stop covering it; it genuinly depresses me I think haha

@@ProfessorViral nah its so much fun listening to this and its kind of good to know reality of this and that world it seems alot similar for some reason love ur videos

Thanks : )

This isn't really about money at all. Money simply is a means to have options just as it is in our own world. People don't "love" money just like you don't necessarily love the vehicle that gets you to your destination. If you could reach your destination without the vehicle you wouldn't even think about it.

I’d say the root of all evil is the innate human desire to have more. We’re always asking ourselves what’s next and for some people that includes trampling over the lives of others to reach their goals

@@ShadtheHedgehog16 Mike Pondsmith's world in particular is capitalism gone horribly wrong.

@@errorx_x1063 corporativism* That kind of corpo power is only obtained by playing nice with governments (and eventually overtaking them). The corporate structure actually is further away from the ideals of a competitive and free market economy.

@@sebastiansirvas1530 Real. I feel like ticket master is the biggest example of the American government becoming too relaxed in its approach towards monopolies. It is by definition a monopoly on the concert venue market and the Taylor Swift buyout thing would not have happened if it had been broken up. And the same politicians who had the power to do something then reference their failure without realizing that it was their responsibility to prevent it. Capitalism is not entirely the problem. It is letting these companies get too big for the average man or even groups like labor unions to stop them.

There are a lot of ideas for solutions, but the usual common trait is taken back what's been stolen and hoarded at the top. As long as we do that in some way, we can begin good change

@@ProfessorViral That process is enabled by fiat currency and how it is managed, along with gigantic gov propped trustfunds. Solutions that bash private property rights and talk about nebulous concepts of jsutice (or ideologically defined notions of it) often are used by those at the top to destroy anything that might come close to them as economic powers. Example: Wealth tax? Big corpos can easily evade it while low tier millionaires that actually care about their origins and local community get buried (and the smaller entrepeneurs even more so) by rising barriers of entry and operating costs that only the corpos can sustain. Meanwhile those fooled clapped, thinking justice was made with the latest tax or minimum wage increase.

What work?

@@jinchuriki7022 I drive a truck and just started my day..

Hey, always fair, thanks for the early bump!

Thanks!

It makes for a clean video and allows me to play quotes for people who listen. It's simple

Two big things. The world is hotter, less clothing isn't just a choice, it's necessary. On top of that, people are packed together real tight, privacy is a formality you can't afford when you live so close together. She didn't get naked to show them her body, she got naked because that's the best way to do her job. The privacy in Lucy's life takes place on the moon in her dreams, and only David ever saw that. Bodies come and go in Night City, but not everyone has the strength to hold onto a dream, let alone to risk sharing it. Skin and sex is sold open and cheap, dreams like hers are so hard to afford they usually cost lives.

So... Let me put this in perspective... That makes you uncomfortable but not the random people (ripperdoc included) self pleasuring in public during broad daylight? In all honesty it's probably an anime thing. Anime is notorious for, usually, misogynistic content partially because Japan is very misogynistic (which is very unfortunate). I loved this anime, it was beautiful, but it does have some issues in how it portrays women

Thats way too high a praise for me 🤣 but, thank you haha

@@ProfessorViral nah you earned it lmao

Qq

Dubs make for cleaner videos, and better for people who listen, so they're the default for me

@@ProfessorViral i get it

Imo I think you should rewatch the entire show in dub Mostly to rewatch the entire show, but gus breaking bad voices faraday

@@litpotat5601 cool

While I enjoyed the overt sexuality as an aspect of building the world of Night City, it would have been an even better element if that sexuality was displayed through characters who looked less "perfect." While I do love the story, and think it is still worthwhile, the physical portrayal of the females was gaze first, everything else second

Wow, my comment got deleted. Guess I know not to take y’all seriously, so thanks for that

Lmao what? The only "conventionally attractive thin girl" is Lucy, Rebecca is a loli, kiwi is an older lady with a disability, Dorio is literally a musclehead bigger than david, and the only other woman who plays a major role is Davids mom, you really have no idea what you're talking about

I'm getting really freakin tired of people calling Becca a loli with no basis whatsoever. Please provide evidence where she is actually characterized or portrayed as a child or child-like, other than her short stature. You'll find that she's ostensibly characterized as a raunchy adult: hyper-sexual, hyper-violent, and incredibly crass in her language and humor. Hell, while David is in the throes of cyberpsychosis and is talking to an imagined vision of his mother, Becca appeases his hallucinations and responds as if she were his mother. She has shown herself to be as much of an active participant as the others and vocal about her stakes in the conflicts. When she asks David to cool it with the chrome she demonstrates incredible maturity in voicing her concerns and speaking to him as an equal. I'm just so tired of people immediately writing off a short female character as a loli and therefore borderline fetishization of children instead of actually engaging with the medium and realizing Rebecca is just a short latina woman. Stop making it weird, weirdos.

"terrible portrayal of women" explains that