Overlapping Symptoms of Autism and Complex Trauma: Interview with Paul Micallef 

Not only that, but I believe that people on the autism spectrum are more likely to be bullied, singled out as scapegoats, etc, put down, etc.

Yeah... I remember being a child before 1st grade, having fun , learning at home, doing kid stuff and going to half-day kindergarten because I was already academically ahead, but even at half day kindergarten, thank goodness I went to it because it revealed how behind I was in the socializing arena. I was my own little happy goofy alien but lived in front of the television and my own pretend worlds, probably learning how to socialize through cartoon characters before the age of 5. I had already learned to talk early and I guess my parents didn't think I needed or pre-school or maybe thought I would be too shy or weren't ready to give me up to the outside world yet. But when I got to the bigger school that I would stay at for first grade-6th grade, that's when I realized I might be a little weirder than my peers just due to my sensitive hearing and the way I perceive other people's motivation, and this was before any super major childhood trauma happened. I was already weird and precocious and had a lot of particular sensory-finickynesses. I think my large emotional outbursts to feeling misunderstood (either by one parent or a classmates recess type setting) being shut down or becoming a mortifying/embarrassing moment and invalidated probably caused more autism spectrum-related cptsd, through just the loneliness and isolation that was more unrelated to family related trauma, but after about ages 7-11 , it all probably got muddled together. The family trauma may have been causing me to feel and act more isolated at school, because I had been burdened with this secret pain I had to hide, that made me feel different from other students and like I had this side of myself that had to learn to be deceptive and secretive to stay safe, until I was able to talk about it when I was 16 with like one other classmate who might understand going through something similar. But now, while I'm still kind of a sensory-finicky person, I'm working on healing the worst of my cptsd tendencies and pains. My hope is, I can heal as much of the cptsd little by little by becoming more loving if myself and those I care about, having stronger boundaries where it counts, and having a good therapist. But autism isn't something that entirely goes away, though I can accommodate myself defensively to the harshness of the outside world by limiting my time in crowds and having headphones/ear plugs, and maintaining a few close friendships who kind of help me stay connected with the wider social realm in a grounded and kind way. And also having positive sensory accommodations like heavy blankets, smooth, unscratchy clothing, cute stuffed animals and large fuzzy pillows, candles and perfumes that feed my love of fragrances, and safe foods when I have anxiety/depression related eating difficulties and executive dysfunction related to making meals.

@@Iquey now, that was a mouthful, but I completely understand, and followed all the way through. The more that is shared the clearer things get for some/many of us. Thank you!

CPTSD often occurs in caretaker - child relationship? When adults are “frightening” or “frightened”?

I call it traumautism for a reason.

CBT toxic positivity , im not you babes I’m no you child we go back to the office

@@Alizardlovesyou autism is a response to trauma so when you’re healed, most of your autism will disappear. What remains is your personality.

This is a wonderful way to describe the autistic person's coping mechanism and how it can get overwhelmed simply by the numbers.

yea we tend to have allot of scripts ready in our head for diffrent types of people and switching between scripts can be very difficult

I relate to this alot. Thanks for sharing ❤️

" She has some sort of mental recipe book she goes through for every person, because every person is different, and she can’t transfer experience from one situation to the next, somehow. One person, she just has to stick to one chapter. That’s easy. But with more people, in her head she is frantically switching between chapters. ‘Old man from the countryside who misses his wife’. ‘Young girl who has been bullied on school and now work at a store’. ‘My mother on a bad day’, ‘a little child that love to draw’ etc etc. It’s exhausting for her, and it causes total collapse." WOW.. Because no one has explained it so well as to how it feels for ME ! Did she tell you this? Because that is me and why I end up not making friends because a lot of people tend to stay in groups. For example the parents at the playground we go to every day, there is always a littler group or two of them sitting together. if any one out of the group is not there on any given day at the sme time, the rest still sits together and is able to talk to one another still.

@@ms.anonymousinformer242 No, I don’t think she was even aware of this herself. She doesn’t think she has a problem, just that everyone else are rude and narrowminded. She is very extrovert and social active, so she constantly meets new people. And her exhaustion manifest as her being more and more dominating and outgoing before she has a fully scaled meltdown, and I am actually amazed how polite and considerate most people are, but she just doesn’t give them a break, and in the end, they get exhausted too and cut her off. (Of course, she has a tendency to meet toxic people who exploit her, and she doesn’t understand it before it’s too late because she feels sorry for them, but that’s another story.) I once asked her about my ‘recipe book’-theory, and she thought about it for some minutes. «Maybe,» she said and went on about her own favourite topics. So, I actually don’t know if she felt that way. I just had to find an explanation for myself to understand the transformance. Why did this lovely lady turn into this self-destructing bomb when there were many persons present? I have read a lot about autism because my son has severe autism, and I found it especially useful to read books written by people who themselves had autism, because my son doesn’t speak, and I’ve learned to understand how he might think in different situations by reading what other people on the spectrum says.

I don't have the attention span to watch the video, so I'm having a look at the comments. Yours made me teary. I have asd and ptsd too, what you said really resonated with me. Thankyou for sharing. I look forward to watching the video

@@belindabennett4218 Sending you love!! If you haven’t been able to watch the whole video yet, my favourite part starts around the 41:00 mark somewhere... some extra beautiful things said with questions I found great to ask myself ♥️

I've been saying the same thing for a while now. I've had to tell several potential therapists that I don't want "treatment" for my autism - _especially_ ABA therapy. I'm happy to be autistic. I need help with C-PTSD. At the ASD-1 level, I don't consider autism to be a "disorder". Being in fight or flight mode 24/7 is definitely a disorder though. Lol

@@clicheguevara5282 I feel like I am coming from a different perspective, yet landed on the same conclusion. My therapist keeps trying to get me to embrace being the spectrum, yet won't really engage in a conversation about my narc mother and the C-PTSD I need healing for. I've been attempting to embrace my C-PTSD and keep coming back to, no this is something that needs healing. I may well be on the spectrum, but I don't feel I can ever truly embrace that without some healing from C-PTSD.

​@@belindabennett4218 omg SAME!!😢🎉😂❤😊

Bingo! Same here. It is so challenging.

Same. I've just entered psychotherapy and my therapist didn't believe I was HFA until I started talking. Now he's realised I am but don't regulate like most adult autists because of repeated trauma.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Me too

Same. In therapy now but my therapist thinks I'm CPTSD and not autistic because I'm HF. Also had the codependency issues 30 autistim 70% my mum nurturing me to miss red flags. I hope you ladies are now receiving the stability and love you deserve.

Wonderful! thanks for sharing -Cara@TeamFairy

Same. I was mocked and even taunted with things that I love as punishment. I’m also totally blind. I got so much crap if I ran into things, I even got laughed at if I ran into things headfirst. I got crap for knocking things off or spilling things. A thing that seemed to be my abusers favorite thing to do was to sneak up behind me quietly when I didn’t know. I’d be doing something that I was intensely focused on, and they would make a loud noise to scare me and make me jump a couple feet in the air. It always made me mad.

@Fires And Flowers aggreed. And whenever I would get mad because I was scared by my abuser, they’d say, it was just a joke. Come on, take a joke for once. I’m going to say this right now. You, don’t, come up behind a blind person, and scare them, as, a, joke! You don’t get mad at them or laugh at them for being hurt whenever they run into stuff. Would you laugh at a blind person if they ran into something head-first hard enough to where they had a concussion? Because I sure as hell wouldn’t. Thanks for you wonderful reply by the way.

How did you become a functioning adult?

@@offensivediscourse8514 I’m not sure who the comment was directed at. But I will say that there are days where I can hang in there and be strong. But there are days where I feel like in order to get by, I have to bottle up my emotions and shelve them, and only be happy 24/7. No struggles, no obstacles, just nothing but happiness.

That Makes Sense the Way you Expierience the World with your other senses because of that difference from other human Expieriences! I am glad you are learning more about yourself, hopefully integration to Truly thriving with your Differences.

You are just as valuable as a “normal person”. I would guess you are high in empathy. 🥰👍

@@NightMystique13 yeah. You are absolutely right, I am high in empathy.

Thank you for sharing this powerful message.

You are an amazing unique person, celebrate differences and abilities 🙌🏻

My personal history is very much similar to what you describe, particularly your experience of invalidating medical and psychological (so called) experts. I'm almost 60 now, and exhausted. Successive burnouts have all but sloughed off the masks and I'm eventually beginning to learn how to embrace myself at my authentic autistic core. I cannot trust it's gonna be the most healthy path for me to pursue diagnosis because I carry so much trauma from being misunderstood, misdiagnosed, mistakenly medicated and all of the extra adverse effects incurred from this. It's the ultimate in gaslighting and dis-empowerment. When I reflect on ND traits and health journies of my family of origin, I suspect this kind of damage has been happening for generations.

I like that analogy, uncanny valley! That is what it is. It is hard to explain to others when you know that others see you as different but you can't really put it into words. I feel like when I roam stores just for the fun of looking at things and not really buying, I end up getting followed by "secret shoppers" who are really security watching for shoplifters. I've always wondered why I put off a shoplifter vibe, but maybe it is just the uncanny valley vibe. I just look off to them and they can't understand why.

💜🤗

Perfectly said

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

They need a mirror .

What a difficult experience, I'm glad you've come to understand the kind of therapist you need now. -Cara@TeamFairy

I was diagnosed by a Harley Street team as huge IQ, mild high-functioning Aspergers, hyperperception (my ESP weird did it's thing in front of half the Government). They had no studies to explain, and looking at the diagnosis, realised the comms issue is because they can't follow me - they overload. The obsession's because I build huge mind-models which don't come from books, extending knowledge sideways. This is actually a genius trait, but then again, I am from the team which won the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize. Yale started its Genius School in 2020, and it's head, Craig Wright, is someone I knew of old, having used one of his studies to document half of an academic case used to trigger the Renaissance. I cannot be simultaneously a genius and intellectually challenged, and running the diagnostic history back, discovered Dabrowsky's Overexcitability thesis, used to exclude us from education as teachers can't cope with kids who covered their subject years earlier, sometimes coming to very different conclusions from the Jingoistic orthodox. As Craig said in his book, The Hidden Habits of Genius, those who can, do, those who can't, teach.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Thanks Patrick!

Fascinating connection. Thanks for pushing the discussion forward.

Ahhh Fangirling right now. 😅 A comment from one of my favourite therapists on RU-vid (Patrick) on a video by 2 of my favourite Autism/C-PTSD RU-vidrs! 👏 As an Autistic woman with C-PTSD, this is a great video to raise awareness about the connection. Thanks so much for this video, Paul & Anna!

Awww I love both of you!!! 🥰

So thankful for all of you helpers here on RU-vid. You are changing lives every day.

Wow that’s really interesting! Maybe a typo or maybe I don’t know the reference, but what do you mean by “9 aces”?

@@Seeker0fTruth Aces stands for Adverse Childhood Experiences. There is a general score from 1 to 10 and the more you have the more impact it has on your life.

@@TK1.2 Hey DS, yes sure. Currently I am doing several kinds of therapy including: EMDR, psychic somatic therapy and schema therapy. I feel that EMDR is the most effective for me atm. Next year I will also start with something that is called: early childhood trauma therapy.

Yes I love EMDR! And I do think I was misdiagnosed as a kid. I have the idea that I may be gifted if you know what being gifted means. Intellectually and in the creative area and other areas. Sometimes that can be confused with autism too. I agree that there are some similarities in autism and CPTSD but that the cause is different. I never had issues with communication and reading social cues but rather that my hyper vigilance and anxiety was blocking my ability to connect instead of me not understanding what was happening. I am also a empath meaning that I can feel others energies and emotions even when I don’t literally see them but they come into the room.

Thanks a lot! You’re welcome and good luck in your future too.✌🏻

All everyone seems to do is criticise our every effort nothing we do is ever good enough

"Co-morbidities" breaks my heart to hear. The diversity and multiplicity of expression in creation is a marvel, constant revalation and awe inspiring.

Thank you

Woah, Paul! I totally relate to your description of what happens "in the zone" when a person becomes emotionally shut down, as a function of an overwhelmed mind flooded with stimulus. I also am deeply content in that mode lol

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

yess this is exactly my situation too, its so frustrating, I dont even want to try to get professional help because I have had so bad experience with doctors so far, and even psychiatric help too. One therapist talked to me about his own problems, another one just told me "you know what to do" and clearly I didnt?....... Its like this maze that feels like it has no end. its so frustrating

Yes. Exactly that. I sat with therapists and explained them trauma-dynamics, talked about malignant introjects, about alexithymia, polyvagal theory etc. And realized, that I knew more about trauma than the therapist. If one mentions having autism, they change the tone of voice and look at you different, like they think "ah, he is disabled, I've to talk more simple" - while I can talk in my mother tongue like a dictionary. There was a psychiatrist, which diagnosed me with borderline personality disorder and I asked why, which reasons he has to give me that label. And he replied: you act sometimes against your own ideals, you do that to hurt yourself. So I explained him, that I do that for emotional disregularion due to trauma - in situations I'm triggered. It's the same for me. Reading thousands of pages, watching hundreds of hours about the topic on RU-vid, reading the original studies. And one thing to add: one time I said I'm autistic, the psychiatrist laughed and said, that I just made that up, because I want to have a label. I didn't even show her my diagnosis, I just said "I wish you a good day" and went out while she sat there with a face like a salmon. This Healthcare system, at least in Germany, as far as my experience goes, is crap for autistic people.

Exactly ! They don’t know what to do. They don’t have the skills. They attempt to apply neuro-typical therapeutic methods- which don’t work for people on the spectrum. I have been to therapists for my children and ended up having to educate them about so much that they should have known since they list themselves as having experience with ASD. they don’t. If they’ve had a couple ASD patients in the past then they list that as a specialty. Very very deceitful and just intended to bring in the bucks by pulling clients/patients. In the meantime, wasting our time and creating more grief. I had one therapist speak so roughly with my autistic daughter in therapy that it frightened the hell out of me.

@@Gandalf_the_quantum_G I can’t tell who has the worse therapist: Germany or US. I feel for you. May I say you have done an amazing job advocating for yourself. Educating yourself, researching, reading, and connecting the dots. That is my story as well. It pays off because that knowledge does generate a sense of empowerment and less confusion. Still, like you, I would like to find a therapist so I can create a support system that includes a professional doctor. Stay strong. 🙏🏻

Professional help is highly overrated. Educate yourself and find ways to care for yourself, your opinion matters. Therapist are just making guesses based on limited information, so don’t underestimate yourself.

Glad you're here!' -Cara@TeamFairy

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

My mom is the last person in the world to understand

I just started to watch… What are your thoughts after having watched?

@@Seeker0fTruth Sorry, I'm not answering for e, but myself. I thought this was very helpful and soothing. I'm looking forward to part II. How about you?

@@over50iqeq49 Yes, I agree!!! Thanks for sharing your thoughts…

@@Seeker0fTruth I thought it was a wonderful and very helpful vid! Great information, loved the questions and how Anna asked if there’s anything she’s missed and even should be asking... gave me a lot to think about (as expected, haha)! They’re both two clearly thoughtful and caring individuals so I’m so thankful they’re sharing their knowledge with us ☺️

@@ixizn I couldn’t have said it better myself. Looking forward to more discussions like this one! I found the information here (as well as the delivery) to be very encouraging, helpful and also insightful. Feeling thankful.

:) -Cara@TeamFairy

I was diagnosed late, too. I assume my case is mild or I learned early on how to mirror. Females are supposedly less obvious. Were your traits subtle? I always thought i was just different, my own person. Maybe that is still the case and i was misdiagnosed.

@@nancybartley4425 Females much less obvious than males. I was diagnosed after my son and grandson were diagnosed. I learned mirroring a a survival trait. Hence the CPTSD. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. The autistic traits were obvious enough to cause me problems as a child and having a pair of narcissists for parents didn’t help at all.

@@foxfirelabradors5939 OMG. Me too, but to all here, how were you able to get a diagnosis? Are you not American? My doctor referred me for psychology because she agreed with me that I should be tested for autism then it turned out they don't, and then nobody in my whole city tests adults for autism. It was one of many deeply upsetting and frustrating experiences in my life where someone offers help--but elsewhere--and that help doesn't exist. I was left jumping through all the hoops.

@@foxfirelabradors5939 Very similar situation for me, just diagnosed at 54, from Narcissist parents. So much to work on..... sending you a hug.

Dr. Ramani is great too! She also has a chanel in Spanish, so I am able to share with my siblings 🙂

I definitely follow your train of thought in that HSP + trauma = CPTSD symptoms that align with Autism...

Is there a text on the empath side, please? I've a decent share of the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize, and have my own thoughts on the matter - there's a faith dynamic in mybexperience.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Thanks for being here -Cara@TeamFairy

The overwhelming effect of abusive parents on kids with autism is not recognized by dss, courts or law enforcement. These kids suffer severely.

@@susanjones3513 I speak from knowing first hand. Being raised by a narcissistic/autistic father has destroyed my children who are on the the spectrum but somehow don’t display the callousness of their autistic father. Their father was raised in an extremely damaging environment that would dis-regulates a Neuro typical child let alone one on the spectrum. Raising an autistic child requires a completely different set of parenting skills to create and facilitate a positive environment that allows them to thrive and grow. Parents of ASD children know that the rules of raising a child have to be modified in order to bring about success in each areas of their ASD child lives. Central to it all is the emotional exchange between parents and the ASD child and the cognitive ability of the parent to be empathetic enough to know what to do and when to do it. (This is precisely the the same recipe for raising a neuro-typical child. However, with an ASD child, the recipe has to be dialed up exponentially) All children are born with their own unique temperament regardless of being on the spectrum or not. Not enough conversation takes place about the consequences of raising an autistic child in a calloused, rough, cruel, insensitive, and abusive environment. Depending on their unique temperament, that rough environment can spell disaster. NPD/ASD parent should not raise children on the spectrum because they will take neglect, verbal and physical abuse to a whole new level as they can’t connect with the consequences of their behavior.

@@jibayat216 Thank you for the acknowledgment.

Parents also experience trauma from caring for autistic individuals so it goes both ways

I'm so glad to hear this was helpful, thank you for sharing with us! -Cara@TeamFairy

We're empaths. Wendy d'Andrea has even identified interoceptive crossover in couples where one carries childhood PTSD, and the odd thing is, both are empathic about how the other feels. I'm looking at this intensively, because it suggests a different diagnosis to Aspergers.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

I too was not diagnosed with autism until my 40s. I learned of my own autism through my kids with autism .

That all makes sense and sounds really difficult. Try the Daily Practice if you haven't yet as a tool to stay more regulated. bit.ly/3608opl -Cara@TeamFairy

I feel for you. I hope things are going a bit better for you these days. It would be great if we had someone in our corner- like an older sibling or someone with better communication and advocacy skills. I have had the same challenges and emotional breakdowns in professional offices seeking aid. It can be really tough, and completely valid given our challenges. You are not alone.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Ive thought about that Pattern as Well

Absolutely....codependants have partners that are emotional unaivalable.

Yes. So much this!

Excuse me, but I think there's a misunderstanding here. Autistic people are not "emotionally unavailable", they just understand bonding in a different way. NT's bonding style feels suffocating to a person on the spectrum. Also, NT's have the terrible costume of not asking what they want because "you should know" and "It's common sense". That's what's painful for an ND, they might never been understood and NT's assess the situation like they're suffering a life with an abuser. That's just not fair.

@@Dan_Chiron its common myth unfortunately that autistic people have no emotions or are unavailable

Hope you got some help and direction :) -Cara@TeamFairy

Aspergers is no longer in the DSM5 So I don't think this is correct teaching. Most people have some level of autism in the experience of life...life is traumatising

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Get the best remedy to improve your child’s autistic condition from doctor Oyalo as his herbs have helped my child improve in speech and social skill very well. He now respond to name, point at what he wants and call mama/papa. God bless you doctor

Get the best remedy to improve your child’s autistic condition from doctor Oyalo as his herbs have helped my child improve in speech and social skill very well. He now respond to name, point at what he wants and call mama/papa. God bless you doctor

That's really interesting about your ability "freezing". Thanks for sharing with us -Cara@TeamFairy

Both my kids are dyslexic. Public school is a very hostile place. My kids also suffer from anxiety. Most likely CPTSD

@@hopefully2224 Sorry to hear this . I, some what bitterly, remember that school was a battle zone when I was a child. Just before reading this ,I was reflecting an AA meeting I chaired this morning and found my self going down that dark rabbit hole of self criticism , looking at how I failed /never enough.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

This is fascinating. As someone diagnosed with CPTSD but not autism (still not sure) perhaps this is the reason for some of my strange behaviors that look like autism.

Please tell me how to look into this theory. I'm intensely interested in the theories of autism, especially new emerging ones!

@Adrian Opper Yes sure! I pondered a lot about this subject the past months and with the new information I received I want to elaborate further on this theory. Beware, its a long read: So I looked at this theory combining the current data on (childhood/complex)trauma, autism and brain development as well as epigenetics. There currently is no single psychiatric disorder that is inherited by certain genes. There are however certain sensitivities which can increase the possibility to develop a psychiatric disorder later in life. Many psychiatric disorders currently in the DSM5 especially cluster B are rooted in childhood trauma. Unfortunately, CPTSD is still not in the DSM5 but it is included in the latest ICDC. So where does autism and trauma connect? My theory is that autism is actually a name to describe a collection of developmental disorders that are rooted in trauma with ‘primary autism’. It is already known that disorders such as Narcissistic Personality Disorder, BPD, SPD, OCD, ADHD and CPTSD are rooted in complex trauma. If all subtypes of behaviour within a autistic person are actually symptoms of numerous developmental disorders, might that mean that autism is a result of extreme, prolonged trauma? Or does it imitate autism making it some kind of pseudo autism or secondary autism? That is the question. Most of the people that are diagnosed with autism have a history of childhood trauma. So does childhood trauma play a big role in developing autism or is autism a genetic sensitivity which makes us more vulnerable to experience trauma later in life? I do know that people with autism are either overly sensitive for external sensory stimuli or under sensitive. My theory on that is that autistic people that are oversensitive to sensory stimuli experience that because of overexcitabilities. People with overexcitabilities miss a certain filter(forgot the name) which makes them experience everything much more intensely. Thus makes them more vulnerable to experience trauma later in life. My theory about autistic people who are hypo(low)sensitive to external stimuli is that its a symptom of dissociation which is a trauma symptom. Dissociation often happens within people that have the Freeze response as their primal survival response. So I would say that overexcitabilities among other birth defects are the ‘nature’ component and extreme complex trauma and a unloving and unsafe environment is the ‘nurture’ component. To conclude: people with overexitabilities (which is also a sign of giftedness) have a primary vulnerability(oversensitive)and then get raised in a unloving and unsafe environment that is chronically traumatic and hostile to the individual. People without a primary vulnerability(meaning growing up without overexcitabilities)may be primary autistic and then also might experience a lot of trauma. These people would be actually autistic while people born with a primary vulnerability (overexcitabilities) are not actually autistic but their atypical behaviour which more often then not is actually a sign of giftedness. Giftedness is also known to mimic autism but there are differences between the two which makes giftedness something else. The one question I still try to answer is: What type of birth defects are the cause of primary autism? Does autism actually exist or is it a name to describe atypical behaviour that is either rooted in trauma or in giftedness? That is how far I am with my theory at the moment. I hope that my theory is not too long to read.

Wow!

@@SanderBastiaans It makes me wonder what genetic adaptions take place before birth, where predisposition genes are detected. I realize that people with ASD can have overlap with other PDs. My Mom was one, and she would be 98 years old now..she had NPD also, but what strikes me is my 3 older sisters' intense PDs and Borderline have increased so much in their later years that I can't even speak with them anymore..and they are not gifted as my Mom was or I am, and I seem to have escaped most except for the freezing defense. It doesn't make sense to me why the DSM is so broad in its definition of ASD. For whatever reason, we were able to cope better in the long run.

This! Yes, this! After finally discovering, in stages, why my brain works differently, your description makes complete sense to me. Heightened sensory reception of Aspergers predisposed me to feeling traumatized by my childhood experiences.

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

I also have autism and PTSD, I will be starting the mm protocol for my birthday this month. I am hopeful for some great healing and recovery.

Get the best remedy to improve your child’s autistic condition from doctor Oyalo as his herbs have helped my child improve in speech and social skill very well. He now respond to name, point at what he wants and call mama/papa. God bless you doctor

@Beatrix In Christ With herbs? I know that there's a lot of promising research regarding medical marijuana and autism.

Get the best remedy to improve your child’s autistic condition from doctor Oyalo as his herbs have helped my child improve in speech and social skill very well. He now respond to name, point at what he wants and call mama/papa. God bless you doctor

Glad it was helpful, we are planning interviews with more guests to address these common crossovers-stay tuned :) -Cara@TeamFairy

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Glad you're here :) -Cara@TeamFairy

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

most people are NOT natural in social situations, that's why they drink! and smoke, and take drug, and eat sugar, etc in social situations. I am tired of hearing that autistic people are not "naturally social" when in reality what most of us do is to refuse harming ourselves with poisons like neurotypicals do to fit in.

I’d say both

I also saw his recommendation and approach Dr Oyalo for the herbs on RU-vid. The herbs has so far work positive on my child’s eye contacts and speech improvement. My child social skill is good now and response to name has improved too

Autistic people can mirror. I notice when people mirror me, and it annoys me. I can mirror but it's not an unconscious action, it's a decision 🤷‍♀️xx

yea true 😂 mirroring is something I have to make an effort to do instead of just naturally doing it 😆

That's not right. I'm on the spectrum and I can mirror people in a conversation - just that I mirror it all with "calculation", but for me it doesn't feel like a calculation. I'm very social and I often got the feedback, that people felt really understood from me and felt safe to trust me.

​@@Gandalf_the_quantum_G I think both you and Anne-Louise Goldie might misunderstand the intent of the comment and possibly overestimate your abilities. Personally I would not say that acting as though one is mirroring another is the exact same even though it might look similar on the surface but as you both pointed out it doesn't happen naturally, just like how people can see a difference between someone that has empathy and someone that acts like someone that has empathy. Mirroring is very complex and has many layers to it that are also changed throughout a conversation and level of intimacy, to someone non autistic and sensitive it's very obvious that there is intent behind it and that something is lacking, I used to mistake it for clumsy attempts at manipulation but now I know that most mean well.

I think maybe what is expected is reciprocation? Mirroring is a behavior typically associated with narcissism that is used try to convince another person that there is connection/compatibility. When I see someone mirroring me, it’s a huge red flag signaling deception.

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