OVERRATED & OUTDATED - HOW EMIRATES AND SKYTRAX FOOL THE WORLD! 

Yeah middle seat in Biz Class should be illegal. 1-2-1 config with direct aisle access should be the correct configuration

@@allaboutaviation787 apex suites are fine. Even 2-2-2 is ok for old planes. But 2-3-2 and 2-4-2 is terrible.

Can you please review emirates in premium economy from Dubai to Australia on airbus a380?

Middle seat in business should be illegal

It should be sold at a discount, if you were travelling with two friends it would be no hardship. Shame about the food though, definitely not up to the standard of other carriers!

Sold. Give it away for free

One reason, there are others, why I will never fly Emirates.

Well I actually think it was - No lounge access for a bid upgrade so they are going to give you the worst seat in the house

I have other reasons for not flying Emirates but it was in Economy Class. Flying Manchester UK to Dubai in sitting in the middle seat block, rea cabin, lower deck, pre--lunch drinks started to be served, but not on my side of the aircraft where the drinks trolley stood unattended. Meanwhile, drinks AND meals were served on the left hand seats. By the time a flight attendant started serving on my side of the plane, meal-trays were beginning to be cleared away on the other side. I had a drink, then waited for lunch. It didn't appear and the cabin crew had become invisible. I pressed my call button and someone appeared, surprised, apparently, that neither I nor my fellow passengers had been served. He went away, cane back and announced they'd "run out of food" (!!). However, he said, "I'll go upstairs and see what I can find" (!!!!!). A few minutes later, he returned with a tray on which was my "lunch": hummus, carrot batons, some olives, a dry bread roll, a piece of spinge cake and an orange-juice. I complained, of course, and received an apology but was told they could, unfortunately, do nothing more. The flight attendant suggested I write an official complaint and provided me with the official form to do so. On my return to UK, I completed the form and posted it, as directed. I'm still waiting for a response. That was 3 years ago. Enough said. Yes, I know, it wasn't Business Class, but come on, this was really bad service and non-existent customer PR. I had the choice subsequently to fly to Singapore but chose Singapore Airlines, with whom I'd flown twice before. Now there's a slick outfit as airlines go! Bye bye, Emirates, you're the equivalent of a restaurant where I've been ripped off, rudely served and got food poisoning.

agreed.

No way. Without middle seats, the capacity decreases, carrying less people. Does every single carriers can afford doing this ? No.

@@x1achilles99 😂

And a mother travelling with 2 children? A single father with his children? Parents with one child? A couple travelling with a widowed parent? Three siblings travelling? Unaccompanied minors? Just becasue something doesn’t work for you doesn’t mean nobody else should have the option.

They still have that config on some shorter domestic routes lol (SF > DEN, HOU) - I take it all the time. It is better than a narrow-body first class domestically

Remember??? UA is still flying that config 772 on their LAX-HNL route. Just flew it in October 2022!

You are correct I've actually done it before on Korean Air and Cathay pacific what they do in that configuration if you have a family you take the whole row

i would have told her not her seat 😂

Well I guess we can already know if they’ll lock the 787 style windows when they undoubtedly get windows of that style in their fleet

I flew once with KLM in middle of business class in 2015 from Buenos-Aires to Amsterdam - a long haul flight on such seat - and it was awful. Just discomfortable

BA did that on a 787 flight Heathrow to KL. I will never fly with them again.

Wait a sec, why? Blinding other passengers or something?

It literally says that(no lounge) on the page were u opt for the promo upgrade

@@iSuggestApps Have it always done so? Maybe it did not back in 2019.

@@Zyphera yes it always had that

You could pay more aroud 100$ and enter anycase

This guy came here to complain you spotted it

@@tntramzy12 Hi here, I don't think he was complaining, really, He was polite to the agent and he informed that on this video he didn't know. You need to put your self on people who look at these videos and wonder if they can have access to their lounge after upgrading. To be fair, Some airlines will granted access to their lounge, even if you upgrade ( for example Airfrance La premiere, or business class ). In any case He was making a point on How SkyTrax gived a 4th best on the world award when they still offer 3 seats on business class on the middle. . I am not a hater :) just saying Stay safe and in good health

I’ve never flown Emirates BC and even I know and upgrade doesn’t include anything apart from the seat.

@@stevena9305 I upgraded from economy to business class in Singapore Airlines and even they gave me access to lounge. Over that, I was told at check in that i will get Economy Class meal since it’s an upgrade. I was fine with it. But on board, I got asked what I’d liked to have from the menu (business class menu). It was the best flight of my life as a student.

@@keisuke5468If you're flying from Singapore I can't remember if upgraders & frequent flyers will be directed to the less luxurious KrisFlyer Gold instead of the SiverKris lounge (which is for people paying biz class prices)

Had window seat with a guy with very smelly feet next to me. Had to climb over him (and the smell) a few times, expected better for the money!

@@christophstalder8005lmao

​@@christophstalder8005 😂

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It depends in the aircraft, all airlines declined during the COVID pandemic but things are improving now and they should considering how much prices have increased

Sam Chui is one of those

Those guys who pay for their travels are able to give us their un biased opinion which I love. Noel, Jeb, Josh, Non stop Dan are my favourites. Sam Chiu, although I'm sure is a nice guy, his reviews are false in my humble opinion.

@@Matityahu755 Yeah. Sam is a scam.

Sam Chui. So silly and fake. I unsubscribed

@@fecardona I was on to him after a few videos. After being a pilot for many years and flying on many carriers - yeah. I could tell Sam is a phoney.

They were too busy promoting the A380 experience

@@crazylife726 and rightly so, its the best passenger experience you can get (im referring to the aircraft not emirates a380s specifically although only Singapore are really in the conversation with them)

Ah, they are going to switch it over? Because the Emirates A380 business class is really top notch. Good to know.

@@MBSteinNL The seats should replaced now though with the Mercedes S Class inspired ones which look more appealing. It's even the inspiration for the new First Class seats found on select 777-300ER's

I wouldn't say outdated as a lot of airlines have business class with a similar configuration. My country's flag carrier only has business class on the b787-8 and b787-9. B787-8 business class is in a 2-2-2 configuration and is 1-2-1 on the b787-9. In my honest opinion, I don't think people should hate on this. Yes, a 2-3-2 configuration for business class on a b777-300ER isn't the most desirable, but it does have some benefits with the most notable one being higher passenger capacity.

Agree. If you don’t get an A380, just don’t bother with EK Biz class. May as well fly Economy and save your money.

Oh no! They forgot to serve you a pre landing snack! You must have thought you were going to die!

I see yr point, probably a mix 1 3 1 and 1 2 1 needed, esp basinet seats

“Should not be allowed,” by who? You aren’t the only passenger on a budget 😂. Many families of 3 have no problem with the arrangement.

@@Ad-Lo I’m unsure as to how you’ve come to the conclusion that I’m on a budget based on my initial comment. I think you may have misunderstood the opinion I have expressed which i’m confident many business travellers would tend to agree with. Since your average long haul business class traveller will usually be travelling solo or as a couple, I don’t believe airlines should be offering a middle sear in business and charge the same price for a poorer experience. In fact most decent airlines do not offer this.

I dont know where you live, but fom my country Turkish business is usually at least 300 EUR cheaper if not more, for that I can take a middle seat, on turkish its a proper bed at least

This can happen in tourist intensive routes. He expected too much.

2-3-2 was common when many airlines also had first class. Since business class has effectively transitioned to first class on many airlines, they have to build it like an older first class

Definitely not the worst in the world. But dissapointing and overdue for replacement (which is on the way)

I was thinking the same. it actually looks like the better seat to me than the isle seats

I actually love that middle seat. Gives you more privacy than an isle seat.

May I ask where you stayed Iceman please.

My first trip to the Maldives was in 1988 when my parents took me there, and you should have seen the airport in those days. It was like something out of the Second World War! Just a collection of 'huts'. And Emirates ran 727's on the DXB - MLE route in those days. We flew Singapore Airlines on that occasion ( 747-300 ) from Amsterdam ( AMS-VIE-MLE) as there were hardly any airlines flying there in those days.

Me toooo i visited "mafushi island" in january which was a part of maldives. Which island did u stay at?

Dear commentator, kindly enlighten what did you mean by "cabin appearance staff".

@@ks.p3219 cabin appearance staff rrefers to a person who Cleans , Sanitize, disinfect and re stock all cabin requirements before the departure of each and every flight ✈️ as required. In simple English , He is Called an Aircraft cabin Cleaner ( interior ) Thanks I hope i answered your question respectively.

@@imurankaggwa9200 thank you for your service, brother 🙏

do you work for Emirates, you found a positive in an awful seat

@@cooldood37 Lol , it is also good for emotional animal support.

I agree. Tried Singapore to Paris via Dubai all in A380 business class last month. The lounge food in Paris and Singapore are outstanding, the free airport transportation is nice and the on board bar is cool. However, the service is too slow and you feel it's like economy service given the size of the cabin, and the food is very bad (bland and try).

What a rip off !

I once bid at a TAP upgrade auction and lounge at LIS was included.

@@Canleaf08 But the additional bags that come with TAP "executive" are not included.

Emirates are clear about it on their website based on personal experience

Incorrect. EK does not allow it period. Unless for advertisement, HH has to permit it.@@c_t_z_n

'Looking for prawns' was crew speak for, 'that dish has already been reserved by the purser for his/her own crew meal'. FACT.

​@@TheHayabusa09wow😅

For the business class, was the aircraft an 777 or A380?

I agree with most of what you are saying, but to be honest, the type of passenger flying business class these days is not the same as years gone by. Having flown EK BC multiple times I have seen the change in the type of passenger, it also depends on the destination. Sometimes there can be a lot of children even small babies in bassinets. So if you fly BC for the peace and quiet, it’s not always what you get.

Emirates is the epitome of marketing hype

Yeah i get that. Turkish Airlines is such a great airline. I dont get whats going on inside their heads thinking that 2/3/2 Biz class is something people are okay with...same for emirates.

That’s a great travel hack - but then at the same time you paid for it. Interesting that they prioritise staff over paying customers.

if the airport supports PP… Most domestic terminals not.

I don’t think they know who I am. I was just very lucky I guess.

@@JoshCahill scamtrax knows you very well.Also what about that they threatend to sue you?

Josh no one in EK had an idea who you are but I hope they work on the honest review to improve their product.

United international is all Polaris now , no middle seats. they only use the terrible 2-4-2 on domestic , mostly to Hawaii.

@@michaelpanzarella7490 I haven't been to Hawaii in years, but I'd imagine they keep those around to maintain some consistency with say, a narrow body (737/757) they might use on the same route.

I would advice to avoid Israel at all costs. Illegal land grab, human deaths and suffering can not be validated by any convenience or money.

not worth dealing with racist Israeli security for a transfer lmao, easier to go through sg as we always have here in aus. trust in the Arab airlines is at a low after doha airport incident recently, so maybe a good option for some, but majority will probably stick with sg.

@@notdroidbot2348 I haven't been to Israel yet, so I cannot comment, but have noticed their connecting flights to most of Europe and haven't heard much about luggage being lost. As for "racist", yes, I have heard about that in Arab countries, especially when they disrespected our passports and the animals on them. That is why I normally us SG, and in the past Cathy. Now, if that "Project Sunrise" actually took you from Melbourne/ Sydney to Athens or Rome and get a connecting flight from there to all the other destinations in Europe, that would also have been great, but Project Sunrise seems to be stalling while El-Al seems to be progressing. That is why I asked for opinions and if @Josh Cahill was considering it.

Thank you for having morals!