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Paid Setups vs Free Setups On F1 23 

Alex Gillon
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I compare free setups from the time trial leaderboards, as well as from an AI chatbot with setups that you have to pay for - which one is better?
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@mmrt115
@mmrt115 Год назад
Imagine paying for a codemasters game setups lol
@RyanP1991
@RyanP1991 Год назад
It's partnered with EA the last couple of years what do you expect.
@yannistefanidis7593
@yannistefanidis7593 Год назад
@@RyanP1991 you don’t pay EA for the setup. You oh a setup shop… you don’t seem to understand.
@moblainer
@moblainer Год назад
my first thought
@mmrt115
@mmrt115 Год назад
You missed the point. @@RyanP1991
@stephencalvert6040
@stephencalvert6040 Год назад
Fucking hilarious.
@Rob-sp4rx
@Rob-sp4rx Год назад
"Look for someone that you don't think is hacking or cheating" , picks Weigang's setup over Ronhaar's. Love it !
@connordaniel8786
@connordaniel8786 Год назад
Weigang higher up ☠️
@scott4207
@scott4207 Год назад
Haha I commented something similar and then scrolled down and saw yours 😂😂😂 great minds think alike!
@craigslater330
@craigslater330 Год назад
The fact good setups are now behind pay walls just shows to me that we are going backwards when it comes to accessibility.
@jamesmathie2696
@jamesmathie2696 Год назад
I mean Alex literally just made a video showing there is not much difference so I don't think it's a big deal at all
@petrsilhan99
@petrsilhan99 Год назад
If you are mad about paying for setups, just learn how to setup a car and test it yourself.
@Hydraav2
@Hydraav2 Год назад
This isn’t a pay wall. EA and Codies don’t enforce any sort of payment for setups, you can easily learn the game and adjust setups yourself. This is “simracing” websites tricking casuals into thinking they need to pay for a setup.
@HenrlkAndersen
@HenrlkAndersen Год назад
No-one is preventing you from putting your time and effort into making your own personal setups.
@craigslater330
@craigslater330 Год назад
@@HenrlkAndersen yeah because I have all the time in the world to do that. I'll just forget life commitments 👍
@tr1stan-iwnl
@tr1stan-iwnl Год назад
"all you do is you go to the timetrial leaderboards, you scroll to the very top and you have a look for someone that you don't think is hacking or cheating" *scrolls past Ronhaar*
@michaelmoores2654
@michaelmoores2654 7 месяцев назад
That's what I have been doing for years, but I adjust the set up a little to account for a race's length.
@_Giorgio_
@_Giorgio_ Год назад
the paid setups are 5EUR/track and 75 EUR for all tracks like bro I ain't paying my sallary for 0,2% tirewear and 0,06 seconds faster lap💀
@mirkmusicyt
@mirkmusicyt Год назад
in reality you are paying for confidience in yourself
@_Giorgio_
@_Giorgio_ Год назад
@@mirkmusicyt you can be confident with any setup tbh, and noone is saying that their setup will match your driving style
@shigou6083
@shigou6083 Год назад
so dont buy them? no ones got a gun to ur head
@_Giorgio_
@_Giorgio_ Год назад
@@shigou6083 i am not buying them, i am just saying it feels overpriced lmao
@TheEDWARDO199
@TheEDWARDO199 Год назад
That’s worth it to some people I guess
@asdowo111
@asdowo111 Год назад
I better be receiving Jarno Opmeer's setup when I exchange that with my cash.
@carter898
@carter898 Год назад
Even his setups are free😂
@kapa2909
@kapa2909 Год назад
@@carter898 no?
@fliggopolis
@fliggopolis Год назад
It would be interesting to see the difference over a full / 50% race.
@NLR_Knuth
@NLR_Knuth Год назад
It's more important to have a good setup in the race, and TT setups tend to be better in quali than in the race (which is pretty self explanatory) but I'm gonna be honest, the difference really isn't big enough to justify paying money for them. The only thing that has to be changed on some tracks is the tire pressures bc the TT ones are sometimes a bit too high bc tire Temps don't matter there
@anthonyjenkins8562
@anthonyjenkins8562 Год назад
Go to TT, get setup. Go to practice, adjust as needed for high fuel running. Do 50%gp and make sure you can actually fight and overtake
@michaeltelfer3483
@michaeltelfer3483 Год назад
If you are paying for Setups you've already lost
@window469wow3
@window469wow3 Год назад
setups behind a paywall is wild
@n0body550
@n0body550 11 месяцев назад
A normal person would never use them
@vashisl33t
@vashisl33t Год назад
Paid setups are a scam, You have to make your own setup tailored to your needs not everybody drives the same and everyone likes a different feel.
@Rampage9292
@Rampage9292 Год назад
I have used SRC setups for the last 3 years now. I don't just blindly chuck the setups on my car and race, I test them in tt and tweak them a little to my liking. Some setups require no changes, some need a little bit more rear, etc... They're a very good baseline.
@colinbay4306
@colinbay4306 Год назад
I've just gone over and got these setups as I don't have the available time to build my own. Couple tweeks here and there and they are good to go
@kapa2909
@kapa2909 Год назад
@@Rampage9292 umm so we can find src setups in tt? im pretty sure its illegal to leak them in tt
@Rampage9292
@Rampage9292 Год назад
@@kapa2909 thats why you don't go faster than your PB, if you do go faster you can brake right before the line🙂
@FemtoTheFox
@FemtoTheFox Год назад
​@@Rampage9292Would invalidating lap by track limits or whatever still leak the setup?
@evanf133tr9
@evanf133tr9 Год назад
It makes lots of sense the payed has better tire wear it’s a time trial setup it doesn’t care at all for the tire wear
@NLR_Knuth
@NLR_Knuth Год назад
Pretty much this. You don't care about stability and tire management in TT and that's why, whilst TT setups are pretty decent in quali, they lack a bit more in the race. But I'm gonna be honest, it really isn't a big difference and if you kinda understand what setting does what then it's pretty simple to fix the main issues of them
@Troy1399
@Troy1399 Год назад
imagine paying for a setup lol. i really enjoy your content because you're realistic and not too deep into the whole gaming/community scene.
@schnurrfpv4594
@schnurrfpv4594 11 месяцев назад
I tried a couple paid setups from SRC and in a 50% race it made a huge difference. You get a ton of info also. If you league race and want to understand setups better SRC helps alot
@mrbungle3310
@mrbungle3310 Год назад
Especially with now the 0-50 ride and 0-50 wings,setups are even more important i think
@Henrix1998
@Henrix1998 Год назад
No way these setups havent leaked somewhere
@ashleyhurst8869
@ashleyhurst8869 Год назад
Love these kind of videos
@roryselley
@roryselley 11 месяцев назад
Question are the paid setups like the best in consteincey to what the car will give you because we all have different driving styles, Exp and skills so would it make much difference?
@davefellows
@davefellows Год назад
I think it's worth experimenting with a few of the faster TT setups and ideally find a single top driver who's setups work well for you. I found some didn't work well for me due to different driving styles (e.g. I found I couldn't drive Jarno's very well) whereas I find Otis Lawrence's setups consistently work really well me. And I think this is one of the problems with paid setups, they assume your driving style is the same as the person who created it. This may or may not suit you. Also, if you're a few seconds off their fastest time, it may not be a good match for you and you might want something with more stability. Note; I tend to increase the brake bias with Otis's setups as I find 50% (which he often has) is too oversteery for me when braking into slow corners. I normally use 53%. If you're using ABS, that shouldn't be a problem.
@wayaf_5908
@wayaf_5908 Год назад
What’s the point of a paying for a good setup if you’re not going to use it to set a good lap in time trial?
@gabz-26-gb80
@gabz-26-gb80 10 месяцев назад
amazing content as usual
@senseikawasaki2326
@senseikawasaki2326 Год назад
But did you adjust the tt pressures for tyre wear? I would like to see a more detailed video on that, maybe comparing it during a whole Stint and making simple Personal changes like pressures and wings to tt setup, even tho i realiseyou might waste a lot of time doing that
@MNascimento67
@MNascimento67 Год назад
More or less tyre pressure?
@hr_pedersen1439
@hr_pedersen1439 Год назад
​@@MNascimento67 Less! Higher pressure - higher temp - higher deg
@stergioskatseas2021
@stergioskatseas2021 Год назад
Could you make a video about the engine in this game and how different temperatures act upon the performance of it?
@scott4207
@scott4207 Год назад
Notice how he didn’t pick Ronhaars TT setup when choosing from those who he believes are not hacking 👀😂
@JasperF12
@JasperF12 Год назад
So this is why you joined SRC the other day... nice
@SAF1_Midas
@SAF1_Midas Год назад
What discords are there where you can buy setups from the pro esports drivers ?
@levy_martins
@levy_martins 11 месяцев назад
TT setup is always good, but the issue is straight line speed and ERS management. TT setup is usually with more downforce. You will in many times be a sitting duck on the straight. ERS management is not good as well due to the effect of drag. But for quali, yes, TT setup is pretty decent online as well. Maybe only change tire pressure. But when you take wings out, it changes the entire setup (suspension, car height, toe, diff..) to try to generate turning, dood tyre deg with less wings. In general, to play againist Ai, i agree TT setup is nice. But play online in leagues is a different story for the majority of the circuits.
@Spacedraptor
@Spacedraptor 8 месяцев назад
Tried downloading a TT setup & that option is not available to me. Is it available on console or is it PC only?
@JustinsWorld4U
@JustinsWorld4U Год назад
The SRC setups are really good and worth the money. Would I ever purchase one though? Absolutely not.
@awg1113
@awg1113 Год назад
are time trial setups good for races?
@vincenzozito5630
@vincenzozito5630 11 месяцев назад
i tried a ia chat gpt setup but setup is personal, ia cannot drive as a human! i have a question ! where i can download TELEMETRY tools in your tutorials ?
@built2jzlexus496
@built2jzlexus496 Год назад
I love SRC setups. I’m not the best driver but I have full confidence to push flat out with the setups with no fear of losing the car.
@TK-4044v
@TK-4044v Год назад
Why would you pay for setups man. You can find free good ones
@built2jzlexus496
@built2jzlexus496 Год назад
@@TK-4044v they’re only like $50 plus they are constantly modifying and improving them.
@TK-4044v
@TK-4044v Год назад
@@built2jzlexus496 I don't know how much that is in € but it's expensive for setups
@darkelemental
@darkelemental Год назад
​@@built2jzlexus496that's the price of the game.... For a free feature that people are sharing online for free. You can literally teach yourself how to setup a car using RU-vid and an houra free time
@Sgt.chickens
@Sgt.chickens Год назад
​@@built2jzlexus496only 50 dollars hahahahaha its not worth 1 fucking penny
@michael_schumacher5616
@michael_schumacher5616 Год назад
What is that telemetry thing he uses where you can see the brake and throttle line
@n0body550
@n0body550 11 месяцев назад
A mod
@michaeljoefox
@michaeljoefox 11 месяцев назад
Why hasn’t anyone made a video showing the effects of what* each variable does on track? I’m willing to bet that video would reach trillions of subscribers.
@senseikawasaki2326
@senseikawasaki2326 Год назад
Anyway im pretty sure the ai setup is from simracingsetup video
@LM-nn6wh
@LM-nn6wh Год назад
Imagine paying for a setup 💀
@Scarduck14
@Scarduck14 Год назад
I did ask David for the meta. First time he has never replied to me 😂
@dimaheesakkers8404
@dimaheesakkers8404 Год назад
Yes but this is just time trial most people do 50% races in leagues so wich one is better for the race
@michaelmoores2654
@michaelmoores2654 7 месяцев назад
Adjust them a little. That's what I do.
@ccramit
@ccramit Год назад
And they're still 5 seconds off WR pace lol.
@HoutarouOrekiOsu
@HoutarouOrekiOsu Год назад
interesting video
@hulkhogan12345
@hulkhogan12345 Год назад
Great video mate.
@KayJblue
@KayJblue Год назад
Paying for setups in an arcade game is hilarious, especially when you can just go to time trial and copy the esports ones.
@Carsey-lf5my
@Carsey-lf5my Год назад
Esports people do not use their setups in time trial, they use solely TT setups for it that they wouldn’t use in the race
@Marcelitus230
@Marcelitus230 Год назад
@@Carsey-lf5my And my question is. Are any eSports drivers behind those websites that offer paid setups? If the answer is no, there is literally no reason to buy those setups
@YYesImCrazYY
@YYesImCrazYY Год назад
Many are, yes.@@Marcelitus230
@KayJblue
@KayJblue Год назад
@@Carsey-lf5my Right but if you have any racing knowledge whatsoever adjusting them for better tire wear and drivability is very simple. Also it’s an F1 game, spending money for Iracing or ACC makes sense but an arcade game where setups aren’t even that important is laughable.
@n0body550
@n0body550 11 месяцев назад
Sim-cade not arcade, it has elements pf both
@justinsmith4562
@justinsmith4562 Год назад
As if you'd pay for a setup. They're all over the net.
@wellanyway4
@wellanyway4 Год назад
yeah + not even too hard to make yourself
@user-zp3xc4to1t
@user-zp3xc4to1t Год назад
If you are willing to pay money for a setup, please be willing to adjust a time trial setup according to your needs and spend time to fine tune it
@mclaren-senna638
@mclaren-senna638 Год назад
I see in this video you did 5 Laps wow And please correct me if I am wrong but you used a chat bot to get a setup, so I those chat bot you have to pay for so technically you payed for a setup.
@lamsmiley1944
@lamsmiley1944 Год назад
someone should buy the setup and then post if for everyone to see. Paid setups are a ridiculous idea.
@mclaren-senna638
@mclaren-senna638 Год назад
Well see you have got it wrong again Alex there many sites that provide free setups for F1 23. I personally know of very site that walks you through the setup for each track as well race strategy. Yes there some sites that you have to pay for and have nothing wrong with using them if I had. The very fact that people pay or use pay for setups is because there is with most people on who share their setup they only show few seconds of it at end of video with know explanation on how to adjust it to your own individual driving style. There are as well Discord servers that provide nothing but useless information on setups. So yes I can see why people would pay for race setups and have no issues with this in fact if people are able to pay for not just setups but coaching as I say good on them.
@stephencalvert6040
@stephencalvert6040 Год назад
Didnt complete the lap. lol. wtf
@kyperactive
@kyperactive Год назад
You do realise you can tell the AI to give you a setup for front and rear from 1-50 yeah?
@metamonogatari3139
@metamonogatari3139 Год назад
The low downforce will help you through the corners
@Neo_mode
@Neo_mode Год назад
It will help you on the easily flat-out ones 😂😂 You know since you have less drag
@therealf.b.i9468
@therealf.b.i9468 Год назад
I get the paid setup for others sim but f1? Nah
@SENTlNEL
@SENTlNEL Год назад
what the hell is paid setups? I had no idea this was even a thing who would pay for some options to input into the game when its free and anyone can do it?
@DrSpoculus
@DrSpoculus 9 месяцев назад
Buying a setup is the same as iRacing selling tokens that move you up 5 positions on the grid and give you a 0.05% speed boost. That's the effects you get from them. Everyone would lose their shit if iRacing offered tokens like this, but buying tokens in the shape of a setup is totally cool. Iracing has a lame community.
@lonekyoko
@lonekyoko Год назад
paying for these is insane, i would understand in real life racing but for simulation...damn.
@mclaren-senna638
@mclaren-senna638 Год назад
But in the end you used a payed setup but wait you can not revel were from. You need help.
@brtmeatburl6298
@brtmeatburl6298 Год назад
To the people that consider paid setups, don't. It's a scam. Just use the Time trial setups and lower the tyre pressures when needs. The SRC setups are mostly pure ass anyway
@yinyatto9911
@yinyatto9911 2 месяца назад
EA should end paid setups, paid mods for any game is cringe. they should rely on donations
@anthonyjenkins8562
@anthonyjenkins8562 Год назад
People are really out here paying for setups?
@benfoxhall1095
@benfoxhall1095 Год назад
I stop playing f1 games for 6 months and they start charging money for set ups? WHAT?!
@erick2328
@erick2328 Год назад
not ea nor coddies who sold them, its 3rd party
@ayushdeshmukh8553
@ayushdeshmukh8553 Год назад
SOMEONE THAT YOU DONT THINK IS HACKING AND CHEATING AND SHOWS THOMAS RONHAAR 😭😭😭😭😭
@nosebleedpuddle
@nosebleedpuddle Год назад
F1 23 pay to win confirmed.
@renediem5218
@renediem5218 Год назад
Huh ? How so ? The only Thing U rly Need Pay for IS the podium Pass and they skins n what Not but U ain't forced to Pay for it If U don't want to, so basically Ur Just Trash talking a Game with No real clue what Ur talkin about... So maybe idk Just shut Up n Research before opening Ur mouth ...
@ludwigraaglofqvist5792
@ludwigraaglofqvist5792 Год назад
No No NO, i understand why you make this video and that it is a thing that happens. But you promoting these setups is horible, even if you dont directly promote them.
@officerfrosty55
@officerfrosty55 Год назад
paid setups huh... oh how EA loves to ruin good games...
@vexboo4250
@vexboo4250 Год назад
cringe
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