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The Palmetto State Armory Dagger is yet another underwhelming Glock 19 knock-off. As you'll see, it lacks in many many areas compared to an OE Glock 19, and many other Glock "clones." In the end, the only real objective benefit of the Dagger over any other "clone" out there, is price. But price doesn't mean much when triggers suck, the shootability isn't up to par, the internals and components are cheap, and any and all advantageous frame modifications are completely missing. The popularity of the Dagger shows that if you create a cult, you can feed them any pile of crap and they'll eat it up.
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@RenoMay 19 дней назад

Those triggers are god awful on the old shields. Can’t believe anyone ever brought that design back.

@RTTGunsGear 19 дней назад

@RenoMay 100% agree man! Everything else aside on this pistol. That trigger is pretty horrible.

@ChrisFromThe740 21 день назад

Great review Matt and I really appreciate the shout-out at the end. The biggest downfall to the Dagger is definitely the frame and trigger. I actually really like the slides I have 2 now but both are different variants and the Suppressor height sights are tall enough to even work with an enclosed optic with the RMR to Acro plate which is pretty cool. I appreciate you Brother see you in a few days

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Thanks for the support Chris! And as always, thanks for watching! And I agree. The fail with this pistol is 100% the frame.

@Mangini_baseball_instruction 21 день назад

Let’s not forget…it works…it’s affordable…and PSA’s mission is to arm as many civilians as it can..

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@Mangini_baseball_instruction Yes, they hide behind that mission statement while providing some of the worst firearms on the market. If the bar is so low that "it works and is affordable," then Hi-Point is king.

@toddk1377 18 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear Haha, the Hi-Point carbines are imo under-rated in the world of PCC's, but their handguns...🤮

@RenoMay 19 дней назад

Idk how I never realized how big your hands are. You make the g19 size look like a p365 in my hands lol 😂

@RTTGunsGear 19 дней назад

🤣😂🤣😂 Yea bro. They're some big old mittens.

@RenoMay 19 дней назад

I have a dagger slide/barrel assembly that’s a non fancy cut version. It’s on my gen5 frame. Shoots decent. Like my Glocks. The only reason I’d ever get a Psa dagger is because it’s cheap as hell lol. But definitely wouldn’t pretend it’s just as good lol

@RTTGunsGear 19 дней назад

@RenoMay yea. I think the slide and barrel is definitely the best part of the gun. Thanks for watching Reno!

@toddk1377 18 дней назад

I got a used Taurus G2C from work for $150. Shoots exceptionally well for a little gun. It's ammo picky as far as JHP's go, but eats any fmj. At that price, I can care less, it's a dedicated truck gun so if the truck gets stolen, catches fire, hit by a tornado...whatever, I'm not crying over it.

@nickpool3943 17 дней назад

bro got me at “they made it smoother” 🤣

@eltenda 21 день назад

Interesting video as always brother 😊

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Thanks for the support bro!

@jesseboutdoors 21 день назад

I used to really like the dagger when it was my only “clone”. Now that I got into building SCT frames I now realize that the dagger frame is not really as nice as I thought.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@jesseboutdoors Yea.. Basically every frame out there is better. Thanks for watching Jesse. If you get the chance to try out a Grit Grips frame, I highly suggest it.

@jesseboutdoors 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear I really want to try Grit Grips when I’m done messing with my SCT-17 project.

@joesashiify 21 день назад

Lol, and people call BCA bad.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I've had the same number of BCA guns as PSA, and even more individual BCA parts. And I've never experienced a functionality issue with BCA. I know others have, and I've seen it. But company to company, I've had far less issues with BCA. Thanks for watching.

@joesashiify 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear yes sir.

@desertrosetucson 21 день назад

Awesome review wonderful information

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Thank you!!!

@trevorteague8430 21 день назад

Great straightforward review, and you're spot on, bro. I got their complete slide with threaded barrel and a gutted Dagger frame that I put together with all gen 3 Glock componentsand a '-' connector. This combination seems to work pretty well together, and you are right.. it was more accurate than I thought it would be. That hinged trigger can stay in the dumpster where it belongs.. lol

@NickBlazer-cf1vs 20 дней назад

Thanks for the time and review. I really dig the channel and the fact you answer or reply to us. I had a P80 and had similar opinions toward it. A 19X is the replacement.

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

@@NickBlazer-cf1vs 19x is a great pistol! I appreciate the comment, and thanks for watching!

@dstdrummer 21 день назад

Best review of this pistol yet. I was contemplating putting the PSA complete slide on a GG frame. Did you shoot that combo? I would be interested in hearing how that is. Thanks brotha.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I did shoot the PSA slide on the GG frame. Everything fit and functioned fine.

@dstdrummer 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear Killer. Thanks! Still as snappy probably.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@@dstdrummer it was still snappy. But because GG actually knows how to make a frame, it was far more tolerable.

@dstdrummer 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear Many thanks. You rock!

@DB2A7 21 день назад

Ive had a few, no issues. Fun to build and tinker with. For the price cant really beat it for a toss around. Still prefer the real deal glock or a lone wolf also.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

That's the shelf I would put it on. A tinker toy. Thanks for watching!

@patrickfellers4266 21 день назад

Got that same shirt just in army green lettering bubba! Compliments on your choice of clothing my dude.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@@patrickfellers4266 Thanks!

@douglasphillips24 21 день назад

Hinged trigger? 🤮 Come on man.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Right!

@mydude_az 21 день назад

Neat never looked into the dagger kind wondered how it was.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

All in all, it's really not worth the look. Thanks bro!

@abigailsaoirsefinnegan 21 день назад

have you tried it on your 19x? cause I kinda wanna see how it works on a gen 4 frame.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I haven't. But I'll try while I still have the pistol. Thanks!

@abigailsaoirsefinnegan 21 день назад

@RTTGunsGear I know they come RMR cut and if PSA has worked out the major issues, I might consider it. but it's gotta work with my frame.

@22640cal 20 дней назад

I had a Dagger for a bit... it was pretty ok and worked fine, although the recoil spring was garbage and the end piece was un-screwing, so i bought a gen 3 spring and it was cool. Definitely would not be a self-defense pistol but fun to shoot

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

Yea, that recoil assembly is pretty bad. Thanks for watching

@joshandmanuela 21 день назад

Seem like the cheap and fun way to go is with the Grit Grips frame and PSA complete slide.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

To me, I don't know why go with PSA at all. Grit Grips has their own affordable slides. AIM Surplus sells fantastic affordable slides. While I said I could recommend this slide. That's not to say that's necessarily the best route to go, in my opinion. Thanks for watching!

@Bull1175 21 день назад

The Smith&Wesson SD9VE 2.0 is relatively the same price and now has a flat face trigger.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I've seen that. Maybe there's hope that some day, when Smith throws away the blem triggers from the 2.0. That PSA goes dumpster diving again and we end up with a flat faced Dagger trigger. Lol

@mr.mr.3301 21 день назад

I was really excited about the dagger when I heard about it. But now it’s not exciting. I would rather them have come out with something not dirt cheap but better for less money. Instead, I feel like it’s not a Glock or as a Glock for less money. Other than steel sites and not having to pay extra for optics cut.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I agree man. They could have done so much more with this.

@toddk1377 18 дней назад

I've always been on the fence about the daggers. I don't mind the hinged triggers, my older M&P 2.0 9mm has one but it's much better than the gen 1 trigger. I just seen too many issues online where the slides aren't milled properly and inducing malfunctions. When I got to handle one at work that was an order for a customer, I was not impressed, lol. Appreciate the honest review buddy! If you get the opportunity, check out the Taurus GX4 Carry, that's actually quite impressive for the money.

@RTTGunsGear 18 дней назад

@@toddk1377 I'd absolutely take basically any G2 or never Taurus over this.

@toddk1377 18 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear You're definitely not the only one I heard say that 🤣

@Jester_- 20 дней назад

Got about 4000 rounds on mine, own OE glocks as well as a few other brands and I guess I got lucky cause I find myself disagreeing with a lot of your points in this one lol. Different strokes for different folks ig 🤷‍♂️

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

Some of it, as I said, is probably subjective to the frame not fitting my hand. But it's hard to argue that a defined thumb ledge with texture isn't better than a non-defined or textured one. That a double under cut isn't better than not having one. I'm not arguing that a person should or shouldn't like the pistol. As with any of my reviews where people disagree with me. It's your gun and I'm happy you like it. More power to you. But that's why I try to separate subjective things like how a pistol feels in my hand. From objective issues where companies dropped the ball on things that could have been advantageous to the shooter. Thanks for watching.

@kylewade2519 21 день назад

I’ll be sure to steer clear! Thanks for the video, I’ve always been curious how they really shoot.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Thanks for watching Kyle. Yea, I think this shoots like crap.

@MHSMOKEEATER 21 день назад

At least your lights fit on the rail unlike FocusTripp’s Jakal Pic rail Debacle.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I recorded this before his Jokel video. Otherwise I would have mentioned it in this video as an example of PSA's ongoing quality issues.

@MHSMOKEEATER 20 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear perhaps a good video to clarify for another day.

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

@@MHSMOKEEATER I shared his video on IG. If I ever end up doing another PSA review, I'll be sure to mention it then as well.

@mghegotagun 21 день назад

You ever put hands on 80% arms' gst-9? Any thoughts on it compared to grit grips?

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@mghegotagun No..just the OG Polymer 80 that I had to finish myself.

@mghegotagun 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear A shame. I think you may like it. Hoping for scotus to make up their mind on the receiver rule to buy a few more. Are nomad 9 frames about as rounded in the front strap as grit grip frames? I like p80s, but my hand size makes the feeling like I'm gripping a block of wood a bit too pronounced with some interestingly-placed calluses thanks to the hard corners to go with it.

@dante69d 9 дней назад

Please review the tisas px9 duty.

@RTTGunsGear 9 дней назад

@@dante69d Unfortunately, I don't have the money to go out and buy every firearm people want me to review. But I'll reach out to them and see if they'll send one out. The worst they can say is no.

@9770G 21 день назад

PSA makes range toys and that’s it. I would never trust my life to a PSA product.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@@9770G 100% agree! Thanks for watching!

@9770G 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear 🫡

@irishethanol 21 день назад

The sights are a atrocity

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I didn't get much into the sights only because most will likely put an optic on one like I have in the video. One thing I didn't mention is that the rear sight is off center from PSA. Thanks for watching!

@mghegotagun 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear If it's one thing I absolutely love P80s and air force training is the ingrained OCD both of those things leave you with. I aim for perfection in slides I put together in my kitchen, yet there are manufacturers that can't center the rear, or apply loctite to the front screw.

@shanenelson5782 2 дня назад

Mine has been just as good as my Glock have not had one problem with it comes down to what you like did upgrade the trigger but that's it. Great video tho

@MrBuckeye63 11 дней назад

Sounds you have a bone to pick with PSA .. and thats OK . And you got your bone picked 😊

@RTTGunsGear 11 дней назад

@@MrBuckeye63 Not at all. Feel free to logically dispute any point I made of how it could be better.

@albertmedalla3941 21 день назад

I agree dagger is a range toy and good starter for anyone wanting to learn to put together a “glock” without too much initial investment

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

@wadewilson6135 21 день назад

What part or parts are not interchangeable with Glock?

@joshandmanuela 21 день назад

The pins are regular roll pins that have to be punched out with a punch so they are not replaceable. Also there is a nub on the trigger bar that prevents it from working with Gen 3 Glock slides. You can dremel that nub down and the gun will still work fine. Otherwise you can replace the trigger, bar, housing, connector, or all of it without issue. I also think the locking block is not compatible with the Glock.

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

Josh is correct. Sorry I didn't get to your comment sooner. Thanks for watching.

@Frankiehudoutdoors 6 дней назад

@@joshandmanuela I punched out the roll pins on 2 of my Dagger frames several times each. I did this to see if Id get a failure and also polish some guts. So far each dagger has eaten well over 5k rds. No issues other than the crappy promags mag springs wearing out on the magazines. I Use genuine glock mags tho for carry to prevent that. These are also my first Glock like pistols. I was 1911 for the longest. Polymer guns are awesome.

@Scott079 21 день назад

Can totally understand about the speed bump on the grip, I don’t have that problem with the dagger but definitely have that problem with the PSA rock. I will be modifying the grip to do away with that and I definitely can not understand why they put that fucking hinge trigger in it even Smith and Wesson has done away with that on the SD9 Gen 2, they should’ve just put a flat trigger in it, I picked up one of the micro daggers with the C1 slide the compensated slide and it actually is pretty enjoyable to shoot however, I want to get rid of that stupid trigger and picked up a very expensive drop in overwatch precision trigger and it was heavier than the factory trigger so I sent it back. There was definitely something wrong with that trigger from overwatch, and their customer service is absolutely terrible in my experience. so I definitely cannot recommend overwatch precision.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

@Scott079 That's weird. I've had the exact opposite experience with Overwatch. I suggest them all the time. But, everyone's experiences do vary. Thanks for watching man!

@Scott079 21 день назад

@@RTTGunsGear whoever I was speaking to through email basically told me I didn’t know shit about installing a trigger and I must’ve installed it wrong. It’s not that hard to install a Glock trigger especially a drop in one. that really pissed me off. I will never recommend them. I’m probably gonna pick up a tactical pontoon.

@k-tow 19 дней назад

Fan boys are fan boys regardless of the brand.

@danielrumble11 21 день назад

Thank you for what you do sir. We out here appreciate it.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Thank you Daniel!!

@twiggybones7040 21 день назад

I never did like the dagger. I’ve never shot one, never held one, never even wanted one. Taurus g2c on the other hand can’t go wrong. I’d get that if I couldn’t get a Glock.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

I'm with you. This review would have never happened if it weren't for my friend letting me borrow it. I'm too familiar with PSA's low standards to have ever been interested in spending money on one.

@Rayvisin 21 день назад

Was a fan a first but after a few rang trips with the daggers and oem glock, as well as a few other clones. Imo the dagger is the bottom of the barrel. The polymer is some of the worse out of many other clones.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

@2k_chanchan 6 дней назад

It’s 100% Glock gen 3 oem part compatible

@RTTGunsGear 6 дней назад

@2k_chanchan No it's not.

@405cop5 20 дней назад

Not a fan of the Palmetto Dagger. Same goes for the Glock. The grip angle is not to my liking,triggers are terrible and no under cut. In the process of doing a grip reduction , removing the hump finger grooves and adding double undercut. One I have added performance trigger and the other have not decided. So after doing that will still prefer H&K and M&P striker fired pistols.

@kahledblackman318 21 день назад

this is a dagger roast lmao

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

Not a roast. Although I understand how it could come across that way. But considering the cult-like following this and other PSA products have, I just pointed out issues with valid reasons why they're issues. People just aren't used to GunTubers actually holding companies accountable for putting out sub par products. So it comes across like a roast. If you happen to stick around the channel, you'll see that all of my videos are like this. I call out the good for what it is, and the bad for being bad. Thanks for watching.

@kahledblackman318 20 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear I'm actually a long time viewer first time commenter. I'm a Glock fanboy, which I guess would make me a dagger fanboy. And u were honest in all of your critiques of the dagger.. I first started watching your channel when u reviewed the 19x. Which was also a great review.. I watched both reviews of the 19x u made..I smooth out some of the sharp lines on the compact dagger. It's a good tool for me. I wouldn't go to "war" with it, but if I was in a situation that called for a couple of mag dumps I'd use the dagger. No sense in a 1K firearm getting lost in the evidence locker.. Which has happened to me.

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

@kahledblackman318 Well I appreciate you watching all this time! I have another 19X video in the works as I put a new slide and optic on it. I didn't want to mill the original slide. Sucks to hear that your gun was taken. Happened to me once a lifetime ago and it took a year to get it back. Thanks!

@kahledblackman318 20 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear can't wait to see the new video. I didn't want to mill my slide either. I like the finish Glock put on the 19x slides.

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

@@kahledblackman318 I bought the gen 5 Swensen Slide from Midway. I think there's a picture on my community tab from a few weeks ago.

@nickpool3943 17 дней назад

well all know psa prerogative, the make first kinda cool but definitely not second. unreliable. but looks like hot high speed shit.

@GTacticalJody 21 день назад

That shirt is 🔥‼️

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Lol! Thanks! And thanks for watching!

@SouthernYankee679 15 дней назад

Overkill revenge review

@RTTGunsGear 15 дней назад

@SouthernYankee679 Sorry facts hurt your feelings

@RonaldRitter-xj7qs 14 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear I don't own any PSA products and never have so you haven't hurt my feelings. You made your point in the first 60 seconds yet carried on and on and on. Laughable beyond belief.

@RTTGunsGear 14 дней назад

@RonaldRitter-xj7qs Then go through and point out point by point where anything I said is objectively incorrect. Explain how a better thumb ledge wouldn't have been better. Explain how a double undercut wouldn't have been better. Explain how the trigger option that most people don't like, was the best idea. Or...cry harder

@RonaldRitter-xj7qs 14 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGear I have no requirements of this pistol merely because I have no intentions of getting one. Your video came up on my feed in a loop. Really wasn't paying attention until I heard the same things being repeated. Gun isn't a good fit for you , so be it. I prefer Glocks so this gun isn't even a consideration to me. I unlike you will just move on from here.

@RTTGunsGear 14 дней назад

@@RonaldRitter-xj7qs Got it. Since you can't actually reinforce saying that I was somehow unfair to this pistol. You're moving on. The only laughable thing here is you.

@jw5297 18 дней назад

Lol, always count on Matt to be real. This is why it is important to be able to test fire a weapin before you buy it. Lesson i have learned over time. Save the $100 check AIM surplus and other sites for LE trade ins and you can find G19/17 for $400 and under. Youll be money ahead spending the additional $100

@RTTGunsGear 18 дней назад

@jw5297 100% !! Thanks man! And I agree. A worn LEO trade in is absolutely better!

@jw5297 18 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGearprice of new glock parts are cheap, you can rebuild a glock cheaply with all the aftermarket parts made.

@jw5297 18 дней назад

@@RTTGunsGearThis said, many LEO trade ins i have seen are mostly holster wear. Most cops don't shoot that much to wear out the important parts.

@RTTGunsGear 18 дней назад

@@jw5297 Absolutely!

@jw5297 18 дней назад

I just can't bring myself to own any more glocks, not that they suck, just cannot get over the grip angle, it just makes me fucking hate it 🤣

@PPD1911 21 день назад

For the first 4:00 you’ve said nothing but there’s things I like things I don’t like, get on with it, my time is something I like.

@RTTGunsGear 21 день назад

Cry harder. Maybe it will get you somewhere. When it comes to taking people seriously. Being a massive whiner is the first quality I look for.

@sleigh4019 20 дней назад

How you can do the CA review and give those guys the benefit of the doubt but not psa ..there selling 159$ cut d co.plate slides ..and 49$ frames .. And the dagger frame isn't great just a basic starter gun..head scratching womeone wouldn't understand that its just a basic gun

@RTTGunsGear 20 дней назад

I didn't give CA the benefit of the doubt. I've roasted them twice! And made an entire video about their CA19 being a horrible piece of crap when I bought it and it taking months and multiple parts to get it right. You can simp all you want. But the Dagger isn't a good gun and PSA avoided every step they could to make a pistol that could have been nice. If pointing out issues with the pistol, and backing up each and every issue with valid reasons and critiques hurts your feelings, you're probably on the wrong channel.