What you are actually harping on has more to do with variance from product to product rather than product design reliability. The dagger design is fine. What isn’t is the variance from one unit to the next which results in some guns running without issue and others being terrible. In either case, the golden prerequisite for the decision to carry a gun should be have you shot it extensively and has that individual weapon proven its reliability to you.
I’m sorry but PSA is utter crap. Their QC will never be good. For the price you can get a used Glock or heck GSSF coupon you can get a blue label Glock. I’d go Taurus over PSA all day
I just bought a heavily used springfield xd subcompact 9mm. It was made in 2006. The barrel where the slide meets is heavily worn, took it out to shoot no issues. Got her for $260 came with a 10 rd mag and 2 16 rd mags, and don hume leather holster with box.
@@NotPokeloWhat I did with mine. I bought a complete Dagger upper and just replaced the striker because that seems to be the most common failure point, if it would fail that is. I also replaced the extractor just because. Both were OEM parts.
When people ask me for a suggestion for a pistol, I recommend Glock. I don't think they are "perfection". I recommend them because they are a generally known quality and there is magazine, holster, and OEM part support. I figure if someone is asking me for advice on what to get, they need to be able to easily find holsters and magazines.
Honestly I agree here. I have a PSA AR15 and I was really impressed with it so I decided to by a dagger too, I don’t necessarily regret buying it as it’s fun to shoot but I realized that it is not a good defense gun. Saving up for a Glock 19 for edc. But I’m glad you make a clear distinction between “defense gun” and “range gun”. Not many guys on RU-vid make that distinction and act like every gun you own must be a SHTF gun.
new price on the Daggers is less than half of what it cost to buy any of those guns new. I have several and also have all the guns you threw on the table. I will put my Daggers (new) up against any of these used paper weights. If you carry every day, the XD's are like carrying a boat anchor around your waist. I ankle carried the XD subcompact for a while when I was young and stupid. No offense, but this video is misleading and not cool at all. "Three reasons to not buy a Dagger". You are just pumping all your used pistols that are no longer in production and there are SO much better options for carry today than these bricks. Unsubscribed. You are pandering for clicks and views. Go play with Yankee Marshall.
The PSA Dagger is a Glock Gen 3 clone. All clones are budget based. They are only as reliable as you build and maintain them. Daggers are compatible with Glock internals making them equally reliable. You sound like a used car salesman and Springfield fanboy lol
Broken strikers assembly (mine actually broke at about 1000 rds), broken firing pins, dead triggers, and excessive barrel wear. You shouldn’t have to replace parts in a brand new gun to trust your life with it
Cause its stupid .. Yeah when you sell 3 times the amount of gen3 g19 clones few might have a issue ..its so moronic ..the kid daddy's 62 guns a month for carry why woukd I take his advice ? Its fine content but its foolish to think you can vet 30 guns a year as carry guns ..its unreal ..he opens boxes that's it which is fine ..I have few blocks and 2 daggers ..I had more issues with a g26 then any other gun ..its clown world
Th reason Glocks don’t have problems is because it’s the same pistol that came out in the early 80s literally the exact same. It better not have any issues after 40 years. But Glock is scared to innovate because they know reliability is all they have. Just like Toyota of the car world. Other firearm brands actually take chances and innovate that benefits all firearm owners. They might have some hiccups on the way in the beginning but they get ironed out. But atleast they have the balls to actually innovate. And saying 50% of p365’s all have problems is bologna you pulled that number out your ass.
Innovation means nothing if your products are riddled with QC issues. And, in the case of the PSA Aks, made incorrectly. While Glocks lack of innovation can be boring, it’s still better than being so innovative that you don’t perfect your products.
You say daggers are "budget" firearms. What specifically makes them "budget" other am than the price. Meaning what quality sacrifices were made? As far as i was aware, they're identical to Glock 19 Gen 3. I've thrown hundreds of rounds through my dagger and have never had a malfunction, failure to feed or eject, or any issue. Does the cost of a firearm definitively dictate the quality?
Hearing you say you won’t use a red dot in self defense or home defense makes me sick. You’re wrong, but I respect all you content! And really inspires me to train!
He didn’t say that. He said you don’t “need” a red dot. It’s simply not mandatory for CQC. Some tactical shooters don’t even use rear sights these days, or they’ll use the blacked out rears. Again, they’re not mandatory for CQC. You can still put a dot on an non MOS Glock though, use a Dovetail base plate. 😎👍
@@MikoFiticusI'd say it's 100% true. You won't be using iron sights either cause you'll be point-shooting. The only time you'll use any sights is when you have cover, aren't currently being shot at, and when you know fairly well where the threat is and you have your wits collected. Most people think they'll be John Rambo, but the fact is that you'll be spraying and praying with your first mag in a firefight. Even if you get the red dot up you won't be using it to aim cause you'll be throwing rounds rapidly. The only use it will serve, if any, is to give you a reference for your cone of fire. Don't delude yourself.
@@AudioGardenSlave123 Neither one is 100% true. Have you been in a DGU? Probably not. I haven't. "spraying and praying" gets you into legal consequences. That one dude who shot that active shooter at the mall probably wished he had a dot. He got it done, but he absolutely aimed deliberately. To just say 100% of the time you won't look down sights is just plain stupid. Same with saying you will use your sights 100% of the time. The truth is somewhere inbetween. Spend time and train.
Brand myopic much? While you gave three perfectly good alternatives, you didn't give one reason not to carry a dagger other than branding. I love my XD, my XD-M and I love my Glock.. but I also love my Dagger. ALL function perfectly. Weak argument if it's an argument at all.
Good video brother. I'll be posting my 10k round review on my Dagger soon, I just don't have a good camera setup I agree, just save up a little more and get a used Glock or M&P, something that has a proven track record. It's gotten to the point where PSA CS has essentially told me I can buy my own replacement parts because they're cheap enough if something were to fail. There goes the "lifetime warranty" they tout so proudly 🤷♂️
I mean the dagger is a Glock gen 3 clone, built here in the states rather than overseas. I don’t know that I fully get behind the idea of advising someone buy a used gun over a brand new Glock clone due to reliability or consistency. Depending on what the previous owner changed or messed with, that may or may not be true. And the whole notion that people don’t need a red dot for self defense is almost like the 1911 fudds talking about how you don’t need a tacticool weapon light for a defense handgun.
My ccw is G26 gen 4 with a +2 base plate. Back up mag is G19 15 rounds. Running tritium night sights. Put a Johnny glock trigger in at and it has run flawless. Eats all ammo brands and types!
I did the same for awhile, then just switch back to my G19. There wasn’t much difference between the two for concealment for me. I’d rather carry the 15+1 and a G17 mag.
I really want to like your channel, but I can't completely agree with a Glock fan boy (aka, SPN Firearms). Nothing very helpful was shared, tbh. While I agree the PSA Dagger isn't as reliable as the Glock, it's made to be bugdet friendly (unlike Glocks). But you can solve alot of your complaints by merely replacing parts in the Dagger with Glock OEM parts, for example, the firing pin. I'm tired of hearing you complain about how guns, including the Dagger, are not just like your "perfect" Glock.
if you dont have the 500$+ for a new glock he gave the example of buying an older used one. for 300 whatever dollars he paid for it. you get the glock reliability for a cheap price. i believe that's the point he was trying to make. i think you'd end up spending more money buying a dagger for 350$ then swapping Glock parts into it. But I agree with you, not everything needs to be glock, I think an STR-9C would be a better choice for the price than a dagger, however.
I agree. People lots of times use the cost of something as the reason they went with an off brand or something, but if $100 or so is the difference for ya, this ain’t your game. Training, ammo, range time etc. is going to cost plenty so don’t skimp $100-$200 on your carry gun. If it’s your range gun or whatever then go for it! Personally, I’d buy more ammo but that’s just me. I do love PSA though, the AAC ammo has been great at the range!
I bought a Dagger frame and completely built it with Glock parts, then put a Glock 19 upper on it. I did the same with a Lone Wolf frame too. I also use Glock magazines. But I would never buy a full Dagger or Lone Wolf pistol because none of the parts in them are Glock. *I did this for the sake of having projects.
Interesting how you neglected all the issues with the XD and Glocks. I carry Glock daily but have had more than one XD that shot high right for everyone that shot them, the compact 45 broke a trigger link at 150 rounds. Smith & wesson...trigger issues and mag problems, glock have seen more than a couple that blew up also triggers stop moving rearward... All of them can have issues outa the box. Buy the best gun you can afford and still have money to buy ammo. Shoot it a bunch. If it has issues make it your boat gun or get rid of it, if it doesn't, then carry the crap outa it. Who cares what brand it is if it works 100% of the time.
So as a guy trying to learn about guns you didnt give me a single reason to not buy the gun. You just offered me 3 better versions ? I get theres more expensive guns. But what is the actual issues youve found while using it? What part of the gun has failed you or led you down this path? Every other video talks about why they like it and the downfalls they see. All you do is say “theres better for more money ;)”
Not to say that there aren’t any other American brands but psa is able to cut cost cause it’s in the states for Americans. But I definitely agree with you
Start with 43 or 43x or 26. I own alll 3 and carry all 3. Hot summer Glock 43 or 26. I’ll tell you this. If I could only own one firearm it would be a Glock 26. For all the reasons. Spin knows.
Active self protection John can’t stand when yall say you’re not using your sights in self defense lol. Not every scenario is face to face so it’s better to prepare for distance because then you’re ready for close encounters as well, then even at close distance you still want to see your sights which is where red dots are far superior. Look at the dude who just got killed by getting ran over. He was shooting at a dude sitting in a truck 5 feet away and missed all 5 shots because he didn’t look at sights and was point shooting. Side note - if you vet your gun, you’re fine. I’ve had a dagger slide on a Glock frame for a year and have about 3k through it without experiencing a single malfunction to date. I trust my life to it fully.
Id trust my psa rock 5.7 over half my other sidearms.idk about the dagger honestly but i love my rock.but i didnt buy a blem and i got it with every bell and whistle. But i also love all my Springfields xdm and xds both great edc even tho the xdm is full size its still edc capable
I bought a dagger lower for $50, then waited and got a complete upper for $169. So for 220 im optics ready n threaded barrel. I have multiple daggers n never had an issue
I have a p320 that was made in 2022 and I have drop tested it and seems fine. But, Glock is my thing. I usually pocket carry a Ruger but my go-to is a Glock. I have a Glock on me right now.
YOUR BASICALLY SAYING THE PRICE DEFINES RELIABILITY! YOUR SO OUT OF TOUCH. TERRIBLE REVIEW IN EVERY WAY to ppl in the comments please ignore this video nothing to see here , XD is terrible you might as well save money and get a Taurus G2C or G3C
I am happy with the auction victory on gun broker. I bought my Holosun 407k for 202. Now they are 190. What can you do. Just have to save extra hard for a Nighthawk.
Have Glock clones like a MR920 and serialized P80. You have to use it and train. Know your weapon. Can’t argue with Glock reliability, parts, and mags. I’m old so I still rock a CZ75.
I'm just wondering(if you haven't already) could you do a review on the Savage Arms Stance 9mm pistol? I saw one a couple days ago and until then wasn't even aware they made handguns. Anyhow, great content bro
The psa dagger is every bit as reliable as a Glock... as long as you do your own quality control and utilize psa's excellent customer service. Glocks warranty their guns for 1 year, psa is for life. The dagger sometimes has some sent out that aren't so great. Go out shooting, make sure it's functioning, and if it is it's good. The dagger is as good, or better, than a Glock... from a certain point of view.
PSA has deals on other guns too. I got a CZ P10-C optics ready for $400 after shipping and transfer fee. I have frequently seen HK VP9's selling for $500. It's easy to get a reliable gun for cheap but you need a bit more money than the base Dagger price.
PSA needs to just building their credibility on reliability. As of now I’ll only stick to S&W, CZ, and Springfield. Maybe Glock one day but never Sig when they have their testing done on the public.
I agree with alot you say. I do not own a PSA, but I have heard of some horror stories with the dagger. I also shot a P320 for awhile, and I was not impressed. Maybe the other models are better. They are also WAY over priced IMHO. Keep up the good work!
Brosif, you forgot the value of the throw away gun. Even the legal side of throw aways should be considered; truck guns, boat guns, garage guns, cabin guns, friends who suck- but you still like them guns, …all them situations need a throw away 9mm. But, when you bring up the used G26, I honestly can’t argue. But, those won’t be around forever. When they dry up, the dagger will still be there.
Every polymer firearm made since 1982 is a knock off glock. This guy just sounds like a Springfield fanboy. Ive had more Springfields fail then anything else ive owned. My glock has failed and my dagger hasnt.
I cant agree more with him . I started with a G2C and dont get me wrong taurus are still good edc but i did had a hipcup at first month bought .i upgraded it with night site and lakeline guide rod and its flawless now .still for edc i got me a Ruger max 9 because its reliable from the start .so yes save a bit more and go for reliable not looks.they say looks can kill 🤷🏻♂️
I mostly agree. That being said, I do have 2 things to point out. 1. I feel like many have put Glock on a pedestal without considering the circumstances. Glock is now on its 5th generation of "Perfection". As an owner of a very ol' G17 and someone that's had to fix a few, I have a few notes I'd like to add for thought. Glock has had issues over the years that shouldn't simply be glossed over. Glock had issues with the dual recoil springs and had recalls, especially in the G26. Early Glocks, like mine, tend to show significant wear on the frame rails and develop the "droop" over the years. I'd also like to point out that other designs, like the Walther p99 and it's copies (MagnumResearch,Canik,etc.) have been selected by multiple countries over Glocks because of the one fatal flaw many striker-fired handguns have. If the strike channel becomes blocked or something prevents the strike from being released, the handgun cannot be field-stripped by normal means. 99% of the time that is not an issue. When you have a serious malfunction during a competition or in a serious situation, that 1% can be a deciding factor. Lord forbid there is a serious jam! Glocks are very reliable. They are not "Perfection" though. Again, as a fan boy, I love mine; I'm just being honest. 2. Springfield XD, XDMs, XD mod 2s can be excellent. They are based on the Croatian HS2000 and are fantastic if you can get over the grip safety and the ridiculously high bore axis. They are very robust and have an established aftermarket. They also come in a variety of colors that took many other manufacturers a while to start selling. Just my 2 cents over the years.
@@Front-Toward-Enemy Trust the Croatian military and Police that have used the HS2000 with decades of service. Then, simply look at the aftermarket here in the States and the fanbase surrounding the platform. If someone is unable to simply pay attention to the world around them, I don't care if they don't trust me. They are willfully ignorant and there are others I'd rather spend time helping. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink"
@@TheColosiss Yeah, you over paid for a rebranded product. I remember when Springfield got the contract to import those pistols. The upped the price $200 and only gave you an extra magazine to compensate for it. And many more militaries and Police departments are using Glocks and Sigs.
@@Front-Toward-Enemy 1st. I don't own any XD platform, I've just worked on multiple and have had many people smoke me in 3-gun with them. I simply said they can be an excellent platform. 2nd. Now you're jumping to comparisons to avoid the base data and the conversation at hand. If you're going to troll post, at least do it somewhat coherently. But just to humor your logical fallacies, let's look at Glock. If you had read my initial post, you'd see that I own an old G17 with many rounds through it. Glock was a marketing genius and sold many contracts to build the brands reputation. Using the designs success in Austria, Glock used that springboard to sell more products abroad VERY EARLY in the life of polymer firearms. Glocks are not perfect however. Otherwise, there wouldn't be 5 generations with slight internal improvements with each iteration. Glocks also have gone up in price. So I don't get what your point is. Now let's look at Sig. Sig had a reputation with the 226,229, etc. amongst other designs. When the new modular-design requirements were put forth, Sig brought back the 250 design and made it the 320 as a striker-fired. Sig won the military contracts and ramped up production. With the success of the platform, Sig easily made many contracts and had the tooling to do so. The Sig 320 wasn't perfect. Sig has since upgraded the internals of the 320 series to improve drop safety. Now, the 320 series has a better trigger, more colors, and more accessories than before. The point is that very very few platforms are perfect when they are introduced. Analyzing the individual data is how designs improve. Using other platforms as a comparison without doing any reflection doesn't help improve the design in question. Which brings us back to the original design in question the HS2000/XD series. Springfield needed to add something to their handgun line. Instead of directly copying Glock like Smith&Wesson did, which resulted in a lawsuit, Springfield opted to do what many other companies were doing and looked for another design elsewhere. The HS2000 was obscure, but beloved by the Croatians. Springfield took the design and ran with it. There are many designs around the globe that are fantastic but were only adopted by a few nations or weren't adopted by anyone at all. Some of them are successes, flops, and the successes again. One perfect example is the Walther P99. Success under Walther, flop under Smith&Wesson, moderate success under MagnumResearch, and then a huge success under Canik. To reinforce the simple point I already stated. The XD platform CAN BE an excellent one. That's not flawless. That's not "perfection". That means it will work and has an established aftermarket and leaves room to have fun at the range. Disagree? I no longer care. I don't have anymore time to waste on those unwilling or unable to learn from history or the world around them. I can lead a horse to water but I cannot make them drink it.
$230 PSA dagger. Grip angle better. $80 in custom trigger. I have 3 the same. I got other guns, too. I have no problems with using any of my daggers for carry. I did extra work to customize them. By way done same with other guns. John Browning family. Waiting for PSA 10mm or 40s&w.
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Go make a real video about the dagger, maybe put it through a torture test to show just how reliable it is, instead of spouting off bullshit.
@Duck_Boi556 who what tfu, I don't give a rats born just the other year boy I've communicated with this guy since he started because he gives the details obviously trying to get him to spiel a little more on it. You must be one of these new little disrespectful brats protesting at all colleges punk.
@@Duck_Boi556 idgaf boy who what tfu I've been communicating with spn since he started u little disrespectful brat ain't you protesting at all them colleges exactly what u sound like.
Eh I run my Dagger for self defense. I still keep my Shield 9 for CCW but I keep my Dagger in a bag that I always have with me. I personally feel better with my Dagger and TP trigger than my G17 or Walther PPX. I have actually had more issues with my G17 and PPX than my Dagger and the new Dagger I built from a friend's old frame.
My favorite glock is my PSA Dagger. Glock is ugly and the grip doesn't feel good in my hand. I went to buy a glock after getting my carry permit amd ended up getting a Hellcat. I am reolacing my Hellcat with a custom dagger that I built.
@@spnfirearms well it's funny that you say that but there are many creators out there that have done reviews and torture test on daggers that contradict what you're saying. I just don't think you're being very honest with yourself or your audience I just think you don't like PSA and that's pretty much what this whole video is about is you don't like PSA this has nothing to do with the actual reliability of the firearm this is just your personal biased at best it's sterile conjecture that you have actually no proof the back up. And like I already said there are many people out there that have done torture test that prove what you were saying is absolutely wrong
@@spnfirearms all I buy is PSA products . If you want a collection all over your wall and change up your carry . Change up your hunting guns . Change up your truck guns I mostly carry PSA. Rock So you can go buy an over priced gun I won’t .
Red dots will never be used in a defense situation?? lol ok. Three other guns then a dagger that you don’t know how they were treated. Great idea. My dagger has run flawlessly sounds more like someone who wants to justify being an elitist over admitting someone other then the big companies can do well. What a joke.
My 3 Daggers run flawlessly. I like the Dagger more than my G19 Gen 3. Replacement parts for the Dagger are offensively cheap btw 😂 and why carry a subcompact with a full size mag and call that extended? Makes no sense just get a full size firearm and call it a day. And Daggers can be modified to shoot other calibers... at least until the 10mm and .45ACP Daggers drop, if they drop.
Blahahahahaa. It’s facts!! Look around dude. Glock fan boys are like liberal college students. “ Looking past the truth, right in front of their face.”
