05:42 - keep holding player 2 start for 4-6sek and the menu should pop up, you can than pick same button layout like you did for player 1.... took me a while to figure out but same worked for older PB... I guess it was PB6 DX or something like this.
Thanks! Yeah, I saw this on Facebook after we made the video. Saying that, it's not exactly obvious to do. Very much like adding games, a lot of it is guesswork on these boxes.
I've never gotten one of these, but the impression I've gotten is being able to load "Pandory" fixes a ton of stuff. Since this box says it is updatable, does that mean this runs Pandory? I have a Global Arcade Classics arcade machine that I would like a quick way to add all the games I've been missing, and this seems like a cheap way to do it.
Pandora by name and all too often by legend too. The companies response to the original issues is a big red flag for me, even though not entirely surprising. The concept was always great but so patchy and way too many models masquerading as being updated but just being minor variations, sometimes even worse than what came before the last one.
4 players may work "easy peasey" with controllers, but I don't think it works for 4-player arcade cabinets. The PBDX uses the PB9D break out box to allow for 4-player arcade cabinet controls (if memory serves). That said, the only REAL advantages I've found with the PB10th2 is the better MVC2; improved visuals; and a lot of the console games I had to add to the PBDX are now stock, have preview videos, and can be favorited. A good upgrade to a 2-player arcade cabinet with a PBDX, but not a 4-player arcade cabinet.
We’re going to need an updated video. I needed to do some work on my cabinet and went ahead and pulled the trigger on the “new” version expecting a v14 board but it said v15 on it here’s hoping they fixed the issues you brought up🤞
There will always be small revisions to the boards, but if they only revise the size of the board without differences to actual gameplay there's no real reason to cover it, or waste time (and money) on it. It's pretty obvious that 3A only care about having complete control over the contents of the box that they sell to you. If things aren't as you like, there's no way of changing it outside writing a wish list and letting them know... ... That dead horse has been beaten for far too long.
In short, they only modified the firmware directly on the board because surely it couldn't be done via OTA because they did things wrong... That leads me to think that releasing firmware (engineering reverse) and introducing in the first versions will make both plates the same
Hey there, sorry we didn't reply on the Facebook post. The problem is we don't have any updates (or even a pandory version) for the 10th, because 3A have closed all the holes for us to mess with anything... Even simple things like mame settings are currently impossible. You'd need to ask 3A to add this, but it may be difficult to implement what you need. The money used would likely be down to the coin mechanism rather than the pandora box, and then changing cash amounts for continues would (again) be down to mame / arcade settings which we have no access to. Hope this helps somewhat.
Please Pandory for the next updated version mention to 3A about the sound issues found in different 2D Arcade games (MAME) and also in Sega Genesis games.. they probably use old emulators and of course dip switches for blood :)
Sorry to say it's obvious that they want to do things on their own terms. We've mentioned to them the problems, but they've become fans of drinking their own kool-aid and shooting themselves in the foot.
I have a AUSTAR - L01 (Jamma) and am looking to replace it, this seems like a worthwhile upgrade?, but how to I avoid buying a version 1 when they seem to look the same externally?
I bought the latest 10th version (0.3334) but this new version with the bilinear filter removal is horrible when connected to HDMI tv its unplayable to be honest (to much pixels it ruins the picture).. VGA looked ok but I still prefer the bilinear filter Pandora Saga/Games 3D with the bilinear filter is way better when playing on HDMI tv
I use one..but sadly on jamma cga.. Nothing..no dreamcast..no atomiswave..no stv..no cave deathsmiles..even added on usb. I have the version 2 latest revision. I would be really happy to have these in 15 and 31khz..also Terrordrome ideally.
Deathsmiles really needs a Mini PC to run. It is doable with the higher end amlogic S922X, but I doubt they'd put one of those overclocked in a Pandora Box. It's a bit of a shame tbh. It seems that they're quite incapable of thinking of why the market wants a JAMMA 15khz machine... I'd love CvS2 on mine, provided the scaling works well.
@@TeamPandory ho... I also have a big old pc i5 with hyperspin and just waiting a raspberry 5 with a gpio jamma adaptator. Really hope to have these games availables.
Mi opinión es que en la primera actualización en la v1 se dieron sienta que no podían actualizar el firmware... En segunda versión es lo mismo con firmware modificado ... Si dios pandory consigue sacar firmware del v2 y ponerlo en la v1
you notice any delay in Dreamcast audio? like its a milisecond behind everything that happens on screen? its not super noticeable at first but if you go into a menu and flip thru the options it seems like it plays behind a beat. I think I heard this was a problem with earlier Boxes for ps1 but it seems like PS1 games dont have that issue anymore
Hallo, schönes Video. Wie immer gut erklärt. Ich habe mir diese Box gekauft und in meinem Bartop mit Trackball installiert. Es hieß hier, dass Trackball funktioniert. Ich habe einen USB Trackball hierzu gekauft und angeschlossen. Hier erscheint nur eine Maus auf der Oberfläche, sobald man ein Spiel (z.B. Centipede) öffnet und den Trackball benutzt wischt man den Mauszeiger nur über die Oberfläche. Heißt , sie ist nicht im Spiel wie es sein sollte. Haben Sie da ein Lösungsvorschlag für mich? Ich hoffe. Danke im voraus.
Is there any arcade box available that natively renders in 1080p without nasty upscaling or I should rather buy 720p monitor? Also, are these arcade consoles available anywhere in the EU or the UK?
finding controls would be nice but i think all the good stuff is on main chip not SD card. only if we could edit mame.cfg and add tab button to access the menu within the emulator fun stuff would begin like total carnage smash tv SDI
I believe the bilinear blur filter is important when you play these games on a LCD monitor it replicate in some way the CRT blur. However this filter should be off when you play it on a CRT. If Im not mistaken we have a blur when we play it on a real arcade (CRT) so I think 3A should include the bilinear blur filter as an option exactly how we have it today with the optional scanlines/HD filter. Based on this do you still recommend the version2 over the version1 box? I will be using LCD monitor in my case :)
CRTs don't intentionally blur the image. The "blur" that you're seeing on a real CRT is actually due to multiple factors. The problem with, say a bilinear blur that is added to the CGA (240p... I think) version of the DX or 10th is that it goes overboard with it. Rather than smoothing out the image slightly you end up with having a total lack of focus and feel like you've aged 40 years. - I think that's what you meant with the "blur should be off on CRT". Another thing to mention is that the scaling on 3As range of Pandora Boxes just don't scale well on the CGA screen. When the blur is off... It looks terrible for some games. Neogeo for example. We've mentioned earlier that the Pandora X Games, and even the Pandora 4S are great examples of systems that look AMAZING on JAMMA CRTs. It's just unfortunate that they aren't very powerful in comparison to the other boxes available. The blur effect is much less pronounced when you use 720p or 1080p though, and there are definitely places when it benefits the image. Uneven pixels (due to lack of integer scaling) is a good example of what can be helped by using the bilinear filter. And yes... This DEFINITELY should be an option.
My pandora ex SD card has just failed, can't find a backup anywhere online so may need to buy a new box, should I get this 10th anniversary one instead of another ex
POR FAVOR ME AJUDEM!!! Minha pandora box 10, congela SEMPRE!! Todos os jogos travam, impossível de jogar. Alguém teve esse mesmo PROBLEMA? Se tiveram, como resolveram?
Restaure o microsd. grave seu backup em um microSD mais confiável, como um da Sandisk ou Samsung. Se você não conseguir fazer isso, entre em contato com o local onde o comprou. Eles devem ser capazes de ajudá-lo.
Probably not much different outside being able to use lightguns with four sensors. Maybe an extra couple of games, and we doubt they've fixed anything else. Buy from 3A directly on AliExpress. If anyone mentions that much has changed, we may look into it. But paying again for another pair of these machines, (which at over $140 or something is overpriced as is), makes no sense. 3 hardware revisions (of the 10th) in one year takes complete advantage of the customer, especially when they promised software updates from the first version of the 10th... Which didn't even work, and now the second version (which could update) is no longer supported by them. Apologies for the rant, but these business practices are absolutely against the consumer.. I'd only grab one of these if you don't want to change settings, leave things as they have it, and don't want to set up a mini pc up with something like batocera... You'll have a much better experience in the end.
I just got my V3 10th and istalled it in my SFII arcade jamma cabinet. So far I love it. Was able to add games. Agree the scan line function is better than before but still not great. I was able to move Golden Axe 2 RODA to mame 2010 and it runs great (no more issues with effed up scaling as you move vertically through some areas). I also was one of the first purchasers of the retroshooter that came with it's own pandora and those huge wonkey sensors. I barely played with it on a separate LCD in my home office because it just didn't feel like an arcade experience. So I bought one of these new v3 jamma 10's and some peripherals from other vendors for more discreet sensors and now have a full arcade system that not only plays light gun games but plays all the other games I care about as well. It's definitely not perfect. Still can't search for any of the games you've added, many arcade games have sound issues (golden axe sounds terrible in any of the FBA versions but surprisingly works well in the one I added to the 2003 mame folder). I also only paid $86 and got mine from ebay so not sure why yours was $140. But at the end of the day it provides 95% of the arcade experience from my youth that I'm nostalgic for and my little kids love playing games on it as well. For what it is and how much this hobby costs, it's a pretty good deal. I'm sure you can get a killer experience if you have a $4K computer setup and tons of time and know how, but for the rest of us it ain't bad. But I agree with you 100% that 3A doesn't give a shit and all they want to do is sell you a new box every 6-12 months. I'm sure that was part of the calculation in using a generic SD. @@TeamPandory
Hello, on this Pandora Box 10th Anniversary V2, are there introductions to arcade and console games when you start the games ? And 3D arcade games added like DIE HARD : ARCADE, DYNAMITE COP, TEKKEN 1 - 2 and 3, THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD 1 - 2 and 3, the 2 first DEAD OR ALIVE, do they work well ? The PSP games added via USB are not perfect in terms of emulation, that much is clear, the result shows it well. What about emulation for other added formats such as PS1, Dreamcast, N64 and Naomi/Atomiswave ? Thank you, for yours answers, have a nice day.
Instructions, only the usual ones on the arcade machines, like kof where it shows how to guard etc. 3d games ? No. They're all PlayStation versions. Added games vary greatly on this system. You can't really add psp games, as most glitch out, and you can't add light gun games yourself. We've made two other reviews of the v1 boxes as well as a tutorial showing how to add them.
Yes, you can make a backup of the microsd where the games are, but not of the actual system itself- that's on the internal nand, locked down ... If that's screwed you have a bricked system.
The chipset for the first version made no sense. Ran Dreamcast and Naomi like dirt. Plenty of chips for same cost that can handle 3D function. Same here?
I'd disagree. The chipset is pretty capable, it's the same as the anbernic rg353 series, so anything running well on that should be possible here too. A lot of it comes down to configuration. Saying that, this is the same hardware configuration as the first one.
@@user-je8bo6mj5g it's in the patch notes, I just completely forgot in this video. I guess without being able to mess with settings, save games etc our focus is elsewhere (image quality etc ) Thanks for mentioning though- people should be aware of this 🙏
They should give us a way to update, agreed 👍. But if they did do this, it'd probably show a security flaw, and we know they want their box to be tighter than my wallet.
I'm looking for a box to play MAME and Amiga games. What's the best/cheapest box for just those two platforms. And can you plug a full keyboard into a box for Amiga games if it runs them? I installed Batocera on on old laptop but when you do, the laptop can't output to a big screen.
For Amiga, the closest pandora box is the DX, with pandory. But with keyboard I'm unsure. Mini pc and batocera is more than likely the better path to travel.
Yeah I formatted an old laptop and installed Batocera on it (which utterly destroyed a good USB stick as many others mention too). But after all the effort and fiddling to get it working, I then found out that I can't use the laptops hdmi to show the games on my large smart TV. The laptop screen is very small at around 11" so I don't want to play MAME and Amiga games on it.@@TeamPandory
They used to load up on the first release. But they've patched it, so the CGA menu doesn't display atomiswave/ Dreamcast / Naomi / psp ... basically any later systems. Shame tbh
@@TeamPandory but if you go into the menu and type the name of the game, you will find it.. ex type "mario" in the list the name of mario kart 64 will appear at the top..
Good thing I got rid of these pandoras and got a pi2jamma setup. After all these years they're still crappy as ever. Make a damn board that displays proper 15Khz CGA with all the games you put into that thing., wjhy on earth would I want a jamma board for my LED display...I can just get a rasp pi and call it a day.
@@TeamPandory totally ok. I have both a DX and 10th. I’m just trying to figure out how to get my 3” arcade usb trackball to work on the 10th. It shows as a mouse pointer. No idea how to update the emulators to look at it as a trackball device vs a mouse.
@@alexlevy we'd love to help, but the 10th is behind a wall of security. We can't even change mame settings easily on it. You may be interested in our next review if you're focus is trackball though 😁. Video review should be up in the next couple of days.
They need to fix the audio on the arcade 2D games and upgrade to 128GB storage.. What kind of arcade buttons do you use on your cabinet they sound good:)
It depends on the games that you want to play. This does have the power to run most MAME, FBA, PS1, Dreamcast, and Naomi very well, but many of the problems of this box are in it's software. You could have the fastest supercomputer on the planet, but it would be comparable to a doorstop if it didn't have any software to back it up.
@@TeamPandory I agree about the software but I believe they are pushing the a55 to about as far as it goes. Most dreamcast/Naomi games have graphical problems. And ps2/gamecube would probably never run on it. They need some higher performance cores with a72 or a75. Or grab a Unisoc 618 since they should be getting cheaper.
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