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Panerai Luminor vs Omega Speedmaster and Rolex vs Omega
In this episode of Federico Talks Watches I talk about Panerai Luminor vs Omega Speedmaster. Rolex Submariner vs Omega Seamaster and more. Let me know what you think in the comments section below.
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@focusrssteve
@focusrssteve 4 года назад
I've got the speedy so you can guess my answer! Subs are to expensive for what they are, BUT as you say the market dictates the price.
@mauriebarnes8272
@mauriebarnes8272 4 года назад
I have a Speedy and would also like the PAM. I struggle to compare to two given they are so different. Thanks again for your consistency excellent content. Always cool when a new Fed Vid pops up on my feed!
@n.h187
@n.h187 4 года назад
Speedmaster anyday!
@paulrevere47
@paulrevere47 4 года назад
You are quite fluid in referring to watch movements. Is there a general reference guide where one could get edu-ma-cated on this very complex list?
@guannan5085
@guannan5085 4 года назад
Heuer Carrera 1964 re edition is under $5000, a good choice too!
@fabulousfab_ffm
@fabulousfab_ffm 4 года назад
My Sinn 356 Flieger is hand wind, has a chronograph function, a 38.5mm dial and I just love it!
@tdog3785-v2g
@tdog3785-v2g 4 года назад
Fabian Ellert Your 356 is auto, not manual (hand wound). But superb timepiece for sure!
@seannotaro473
@seannotaro473 4 года назад
That H mosier is absolutely stunning.....impressive
@pandemonium274
@pandemonium274 4 года назад
Exactly correct. The market dictates what a watch is worth. Logic has nothing to do with it. This applies to all products. Not just watches.
@Draklor92
@Draklor92 4 года назад
Karl Schapel Sure, but market value is largely based on perception, and a good chunk of that is related to specs/value. It’s just lazy to leave it all to the “market”
@robr.3679
@robr.3679 4 года назад
Very diplomatic answers. For me, Speedy everyday!
@LuisFranciscoAguilar
@LuisFranciscoAguilar 4 года назад
Submariner and Speedmaster all the way, the best couple :)
@DaveMGmovies
@DaveMGmovies 4 года назад
Agree on all counts Federico. Omega 300 diver is a better watch than the sub, available, and much cheaper. But if it's the Rolex you want then nothing else will do. Most (though not me) would agree with you and that's what drives the price. Loving that Moser BTW.
@phillipmoodie9071
@phillipmoodie9071 4 года назад
@DaveMGmovies. There are numerous comments about the price of Rolex on YT channels, which constantly refer to Marketing when discussing price, when the real reference to price is in those comments a Selling issue. An organisation may have an executive with the title of Sales and Marketing Director, but in the larger organisations those roles do not overlap. It is the role of Marketing to create the desire for the product, then the price is created on the basis of what the market will pay. Rolex marketing is top flight, which is why the price should not be the main issue. Phil.
@brunopapa5107
@brunopapa5107 4 года назад
Thanks for the video and the answer!
@alexwithwatches6534
@alexwithwatches6534 4 года назад
Thanks for the content, another great chronograph to be considered and be had around 5k (not manual) is the previous gen Blancpain Flyback Chrono with the F.Piguet movt
@edwardblack7133
@edwardblack7133 4 года назад
Very cool Moser and thanks for keeping the videos going during lock down. What’s in your opinion the best alarm watch under 10k?
@gragrn
@gragrn 4 года назад
That blue is stunning, talk about the perfect way to cheer you up on a bad day. It looks like summer on your wrist!
@randyallen2771
@randyallen2771 4 года назад
Really color coordinated today Fed. 👍
@aleksandersiemaszko6027
@aleksandersiemaszko6027 4 года назад
I love the Zenith Prime. Not a lot of sub 40mm chronographs, beautiful display caseback and a bit of pilot aesthetic. Can be picked up for around 2.5k USD.
@govtfunded
@govtfunded 4 года назад
Like the Speedy but need water resistance
@hambone988ubet
@hambone988ubet 4 года назад
Watch matches Polo or Polo matches the watch?
@JungleEddie
@JungleEddie 4 года назад
I'll take the Pam111
@theopulentlife889
@theopulentlife889 4 года назад
I prefer the Seamaster over the Sub because it looks aesthetically more stylish in my opinion, subs are pretty good but I dont agree with the pricing. I remember 4 years ago I walked into a random AD and they had the black sub without date for 8800$ and it was available to buy without a waiting list...lol how times have changed....cant get that price on the grey market even...
@meat_loves_wasabi
@meat_loves_wasabi 2 года назад
I have Omega PO ,Pam 321 and rolex DSDB.... PO is my Daily work watch, Pam when i travel overseas & Rolex my Sunday watch when i go out
@Draklor92
@Draklor92 4 года назад
Taking away the rotor from an El Primero is a sin though. I mean, it’s known to be the first AUTOMATIC chronograph, that’s its namesake...
@aleksandersiemaszko6027
@aleksandersiemaszko6027 4 года назад
It's called Zenith Prime. PRIMERO sans RO(tor) ;)
@railgraf
@railgraf 4 года назад
all watches discussed mega suck compared to this beautiful blue H.Moser you are wearing Federico! What a watch! I was just eye balling it for the length of the whole video.
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot 4 года назад
I love HM&C! I think I would have gotten a burnished blue gator strap for it
@joaomaria4551
@joaomaria4551 4 года назад
Hello Fed, how are you? I have been following your youtube channel for a long time and I recognize all your knowledge in the watchmaking world, as such, it is a great inspiration for me! So I have a question. There is an ad where I live (Portugal) that has a Breitling Superocean abyss (old stock) that is stocking off. It costs 2690€, what would be the fair price with a discount considering that it is a discontinued watch? And congratulations on your work! Thank you!
@jerryg50
@jerryg50 4 года назад
I have a speedmaster. Terrific watch. Cannot compare to regular watches because the speedmaster has the tachometer/timer in addition to displaying the time. I have spent for a number of expensive mechanical watches some automatic and some manual windup. The drawback is I found all mechanical watches to be more fragile in case of rough treatment, and also require some maintenance every 4 to 5 years. I have a number of Omega, Eterna, and Raymond Well mechanical watches. They are accurate to about 2 to 5 seconds per day depending on my activity. When I wear these watches I am always afraid of smashing it against something. I have damaged my watches and had to have them serviced. The local Omega watch service people always remember me because I damaged my watches so often. They recommended for me to get cheap watches for when I am working. The service manager personally gave me a Casio digital watch as a gift for me to wear when I am working because he felt sorry for me. This was my first Casio watch. My best value was in getting quartz digital watches in the $200 to $600 range depending on the desired features. After a few years I open and change the batteries myself at an average cost of about $3 to $6 depending on the battery type. I bought a package of assorted gasket rings for watches to replace when necessary. Some of my watches are solar for charging them. I leave these watches in a lit area to keep them charged. They use a capacitor type battery inside that is not difficult to change if needed to be done. I realize the resale or trade in value with these quartz watches is not viable, but buying a quartz watch for $600 is cheaper than having a maintenance done on any mechanical watch. If I damage a Casio or Timex watch they are easy and cheap to replace. Accuracy is within a few seconds per month and I can beat the hell out of them without worry.
@Disinf3ctant
@Disinf3ctant 4 года назад
Whoaaaa that new intro is siiiiiiiiiick
@Dangling_Carrot
@Dangling_Carrot 4 года назад
Handhart makes a pretty nice manual wind Chronograph.
@louisstasio499
@louisstasio499 4 года назад
Love your videos. Very informative and practical. I would love to hear your opinion about the Bell & Ross Bi compass. I'm considering between the Omega speedmaster moon watch and the bi compass. I have a big wrist and do not care about resale value. Please weight in.
@SC-km5vc
@SC-km5vc 4 года назад
Omega is years beyond Panerai and Rolex for technical specs 😂
@watchesoflondon2333
@watchesoflondon2333 4 года назад
Nice one Fed
@jaimedevon6213
@jaimedevon6213 4 года назад
I have a vintage suisse chronographe 39mm housing the Landeron 48 handwind movement. Beautiful movement, beautiful watch and sub $5k
@r.i.p6569
@r.i.p6569 4 года назад
Really enjoy your video. I am looking for my first chronograph and I am between the FOIS vs Breitling Airborne 41 at the moment. Could you please give some thoughts about them and which one to go with? Thank you and keep it up. Cheers, Thomas
@kaypee1972
@kaypee1972 4 года назад
Oooooh, every time I see that blue on your wrist 🤩
@csarcpab
@csarcpab 4 года назад
Great vid Fed! What do you think about the mechanical cronograph in the Seagull 1963? Keep the great content coming!
@bigvic950
@bigvic950 4 года назад
Thanks fed
@mrbud8524
@mrbud8524 4 года назад
Hi can you do a Review on the Panerai Pam 372 please.
@truebluemiata
@truebluemiata 4 года назад
HKED chronograph. Manual wind column wheel Venus 175 movement (legitimately bought) Not handled it but it seems to have some cred. Not saying it's a Speedy but I've been tempted several times.
@Sgcabbooking
@Sgcabbooking 4 года назад
Panerai anyday anytime!
@xTFNK
@xTFNK 4 года назад
My god your watch is absolutely beautiful Do you think you could maybe make a video on it ?
@fbbarbosa1
@fbbarbosa1 4 года назад
One major difference between Panerai Luminor and Omega Speedmaster is the second hand market. I have both advertised in chrono24 , Omega gets a lot of attention and views, Panerai, not zo much.
@s.bornand5424
@s.bornand5424 4 года назад
Federico thanks for all your awesome content. Keep it coming. Quick question: Can one walk into an AD in Switzerland or Europe and buy a watch in cash without leaving any personal info with the dealership?
@ignasi6611
@ignasi6611 4 года назад
depends on the country, Eurozone usually cash payments over one or 2k euro must be registered with personal info. Switzerland is a tax heaven, so maybe there you could do that.
@pedromanuellopez142
@pedromanuellopez142 4 года назад
No problem in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, unless you ask for a tax free form to claim a VAT reimbursement when you leave the country. By the way, you can get almost any Rolex at list price and w/o a waiting list. That shows how the US market is being exploited.
@bornfree3531
@bornfree3531 4 года назад
Chronograph cost too much to repair?..
@patrickcannady2066
@patrickcannady2066 4 года назад
Omega
@normanpedersen5454
@normanpedersen5454 4 года назад
Fed is SO color coordinated!! o/
@igorg.6875
@igorg.6875 3 года назад
every day only Panerai !!!!!
@steveeschweiler8603
@steveeschweiler8603 4 года назад
I don’t understand the fascination with Speedmasters. Its a pretty bland looking watch IMO. The NASA thing is cool but that’s about it for me. I get why you would choose the pam.
@ivanlagrossemoule
@ivanlagrossemoule 4 года назад
To be fair, chances are that with all of the special editions you'll eventually find one you like. Also there are some fun touches to them, like the co-axial escapement if you're into that sort of thing. But as someone who simply doesn't enjoy the looks of pretty much any Rolex nor find much interest in them, I can certainly understand that we all have our own taste, which is a good thing.
@CptnWinkee
@CptnWinkee 4 года назад
Love my Speedy
@Philipp-lh5qx
@Philipp-lh5qx 4 года назад
That h.moser looks like it's from lacoste or armani
@31hallite
@31hallite 2 года назад
I prefer panerai
@kazochrymowicz3076
@kazochrymowicz3076 4 года назад
Was the newest Moser sold?
@FedericoTalksWatches
@FedericoTalksWatches 4 года назад
Yes sir. Lasted 1 day
@paulhastie6850
@paulhastie6850 4 года назад
Hi Fred (can I call you Fred?) great videos mate, looking for some advice from a pro. I'm looking to buy either a Ball Trainmaster or an Eterna Granges. What would your recommendation be? Cheers.
@langstondah7350
@langstondah7350 3 года назад
I'll put my PAM 320 up against Speedmaster any day...Speedmaster are ugly and look cheap although the Coaxial movement is really top notch. I have them ranked 1) Rolex 2) Panerai 3) Omega as far as brand that I would purchase. If I could own only ONE watch for the rest of my life though it would be my Submariner in gold and steel. Nothing is even close. It's absolutely stunning. To tell the truth, the best first watch to buy in the world is the all steel Submariner and you really don't need another watch ever after that not unless youre into watches. The Submariner rates a perfect ten for me and I have a gold and steel one so mine is an 11! That said, Panerai is iconic and it's awesome!!!
@Domain_Man1
@Domain_Man1 3 года назад
Speedmaster for me, but rather have the Seamaster as it's just more attractive and classy than Rolex. Rolexes are for people that want to look far more than they are. Such a prententious trinket it's a wonder the brand impresses anymore since it's status as a mark of wealth no longer exists since anyone can afford one eg: 12 payments @ £370 gets anyone a basic Oyster Pep model.
@davidmeier8860
@davidmeier8860 4 года назад
I have both the Seamaster and the Rolex Sub and I prefer the Seamaster with the exception of the terrible Omega bracelet. So dated looking..... So I put it on a strap :).
@jamessummers2951
@jamessummers2951 4 года назад
If you’re looking at max £5k, looking anywhere other than a Speedmaster, in my opinion, is a waste of time.. A LOT of watch for the price! Unbelievable
@THeinsidethefire16
@THeinsidethefire16 4 года назад
where to write question for q and a on instagram ? direct pm to federicotw?
@focusrssteve
@focusrssteve 4 года назад
How can 2 people put a thumbs down already! What a bunch of $%^&
@petercsicsics2663
@petercsicsics2663 4 года назад
Probably Rolex fanboys.😀
@emreisiklar
@emreisiklar 4 года назад
Hair cut, hair cut! Use remington machine very good!
@clo2715
@clo2715 4 года назад
Let it go man. Shave it. Let the goatee grow in a little more and you'll look like me. Lol
@stevemitchell7981
@stevemitchell7981 4 года назад
Speedmaster all day long.
@jasongennero2080
@jasongennero2080 4 года назад
I think the rolex should cost a little more but not as much more as it is only cuz it beats at 4hz while the omega beats at 3 and a half hz.butthat's just my honest opinion.
@hamzaa.8082
@hamzaa.8082 4 года назад
Panerai are ... not pretty.
@76EbmSilverback
@76EbmSilverback 4 года назад
It's gonna take a handful of times before you learn to shave your own head without the cuts...take it from me....greetings from Denmark(the one in Europe) ;)
@kepler1262
@kepler1262 4 года назад
Yes you need a haircut
@SG-he4cy
@SG-he4cy 4 года назад
Rolex & Omega beats Panerai any day anytime. Panerai is a joke compared to their heritage. Countless limited edition, Snap on caseback to hide undecorated movements that is so ugly with tool marks etc..
@jumboJetPilot
@jumboJetPilot 4 года назад
And some Pans have plastic movement rings; crazy!
@MrJamesDuffy
@MrJamesDuffy 4 года назад
Junghans has a heritage with actual connections to the Bauhaus school of design. And while they are probably only licensing his name and at this point, Junghans is the only watchmaker referencing the name of renowned Bauhaus designer Max Bill and they are certainly using some of his designs.
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