Panorama Car through the Alps!

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Today, we take SBB and ÖBB's stunning Transalpin service, travelling aboard an amazing panorama car.
Date of Travel: February 2023
Class of Travel: First Class
Rolling Stock: Siemens EuroSprinter ("Taurus") with various
Type of Service: EuroCity
Operator: ÖBB
Train Number: EC 164 "Transalpin"
Origin: Graz Hbf, Styria, Austria
Destination: Buchs SG, St. Gallen, Switzerland
Cost of ticket: €114 (113.45CHF, £100.90, $122.90)
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@dur1zar22 Год назад

I did this journey last year eastbound. Unfortunately, the train went through Germany and Salzburg as the route via Kitzbuhel was shut for engineering works. Pro tip: the SBB 2nd class coaches aren't as bad as they look. The seats are quite comfy and I like how every seat has a window view

@placeholderGER Год назад

Agreed spent multiple Trips in them while taking the EC 6/7 and EC 8/9 between Karlsruhe and Hamburg and back. Super comfortable Seats for 2nd Class way better than the DB Counterpart....

@Kletterhaus Год назад

They even recline, which makes them even more comfortable.

@christophernoble6810 Год назад

Took Railjet Zurich to Wien diverted via Zell am See in 2019 and it was absolutely wonderful. One of the most scenic journeys in the world. Like you we travelled on Inter Rails. Excellent video. Keep them coming 😉

@LiftFan Год назад

The UK really ought to use carriages like these for the scenic routes! It's ironic that the only trains in this country with panoramic windows run on the London Underground...

@FusionZenFlame Год назад

I agree!

@TorIverWilhelmsen Год назад

Well, there is just so much views of grey skies one needs. :)

@robertwilloughby8050 Год назад

I'm with you, but what routes would demand a panoramic car? Settle and Carlisle? West Coast main line between Preston and Glasgow? West Highland line? Highland main line? Far North line? Exeter - Penzance? Heart of Wales line?

@FusionZenFlame Год назад

@@robertwilloughby8050 I can agree with all of them what you said

@karens8633 Год назад

They need to make a lot of these cars and use them wherever there are nice views!

@anteliomonteiroabellan1214 Год назад

The landscapes are simply wonderful and your narration, with such perfect English, is incredible! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@John_Fugazzi Год назад

That was a beautiful train car with those large windows and comfortable looking seats. Nice way to see the scenery, and Austria can't be beat for scenery.

@Floortile Год назад

Nobody does these reports better than you, Mate. Thanks so much!

@DylansTravelReports Год назад

Thanks 😁

@seewulf1993 Год назад

@@DylansTravelReports I wrote you an Email about the prices of the Journey :) 114€ is far to much for that Journey in 1st class ;)

@rezaalan3991 Год назад

What a great trip. Panorama car + Snowy landscape = perfection. I think it's great if you visiting Liechtenstein in the future.

@jamesthompson3099 Год назад

That is some gorgeous scenery! Taking a train through the mountains in winter is a really special treat.

@robyoungquist5803 Год назад

I could only imagine how beautiful this route must be in the summer when everything is green and lush 🤔. And a dining car too 😋

@thomilsvlog4544 Год назад

7:37 Oh man, that whole section between Leoben and Stainach-Irdning brings back a lot of memories. I used to travel along there every week to get to an from a boarding school I was attending. Pro Tip: The next time you‘re in that neck of the woods, you should take a ride along the „Salzkammergutbahn“between Stainach and Attnang-Puchheim. The landscape is spectacular, especially between Bad Aussee and Gmunden.

@Fan652w Год назад

Dylan - I strongly agree regarding the Salzkammergutbahn

@roundandroundmyworld Год назад

I didn't know that such coaches existed on any main line trains. I rode in narrower panoramic coaches on both the Bernina and Glacier Expresses a few years back. I still think the Bernina line was the most eye-popping rail experience of my life, although the scenery on this route runs it a close second. You were lucky to have so many vacant seats around you for the entire trip. That would likely never happen in summer! I'll definitely be looking forward to your video on the Bernina route!

@Fan652w Год назад

A few of the regular Basel-Zurich-Chur intercity trains also convey one of the 'panoramawagens'.

@dannydanny9875 8 месяцев назад

That Swiss Train is FRESH! 😀

@markoobid2005 Год назад

A trip that is definitely on my bucket list. To really enjoy it, it's best to wait for the most harsh winter conditions and deepest snow, then this trip becomes probably the most beautiful one in Europe, as far as mainline travel goes. Fun fact: from June 2023 the SBB Panorama car is scheduled to operate on the Graz - Przemysl route too, in the consist of train EuroCity "Porta Moravica".

@TheSpotify95 Год назад

3:53 I believe this is how all train coaches should be designed! Lovely large windows meaning you can see out of them with no issues (and no issues with seat alignment), plus lots of lovely natural light. You should even be able to get good radio/3G/4G/5G/GPS as well with those windows being so large.

@michaelformaini7053 Год назад

Fantastic scenery and a great way to view it. If you can do it again, would love to see the eastbound trip in September (late summer early autumn) for comparison.🙂

@Z20900 Год назад

Once again a great report! The Optima Express coaches you've seen were operating the Alpen Express that week between the Netherlands and Austria. Given it operated only one return journey this winter season, you were lucky to see it!

@Fan652w Год назад

Thank you Dylan for an absolutely superb video! I have travelled on this train, and I can very warmly support your comments. I would, in particular, strongly recommend reserving a seat if you want to use the (SBB-owned) fist class panorama coach. The second class carriages used to be OBB. However since the introduction of the 1095 Euro 'Klima Ticket' on 26th October 2021 OBB has been desperate for second class carriages; hence the Swiss carriages. The Klima Ticket is an annual pass valid on all Austrian public transport INCLUDING INTER-CITY TRAINS. Compare this with the the German 'Deutschland Ticket' starting on May 1st which is 49 Euros a month for all German public transport, EXCEPT INTER TRAINS (and coaches).

@christianzotter4224 Год назад

I am using "Transalpin" two to three times a year "just for fun" from Selzthal to Zell am See! Having Lunch in the Dining-Car and from Zell am See back to Selzthal with the "Transalpin" comming from Zürich! In that train I take "Tea-Time"! Usually the configuration of the train is: ÖBB First Class, ÖBB Dining-Car, SBB Panorama, and all Second Class SBB.

@trainmanbob Год назад

Looks like a superb trip, PROVIDING you get decent weather and choose the right time of year.

@dziltener Год назад

We rode with a train with these panorama cars on the Gotthard Express, I can highly recommend that route as well! Especially on a good summer day when taking the full trip - that is, ship from Lucerne to Flüelen, and then the panoramic train to Lugano. I don't get your negative opinion on the second class coaches though. Those old ones are awesome and comfy.

@john07973 Год назад

Good video thanks a lot 👍

@theobrattinga500 Год назад

Great video !!

@NadaSurferTube Год назад

gorgeous views, thanks!

@judithstuart9631 Год назад

Thanks, a pleasant trip!

@Brauiz90 Год назад

I've been on this train yesterday for a short part of it's journey - I've been in 2nd class between Schwarzach St. Veit and Zell am See.

@beckysonnier6369 Год назад

Thank you for sharing 😊. It was beautiful.

@rachelehrenberg9231 Год назад

Excellent work young man. A bit of local knowledge. 1. Graz: Birthplace of Arnold Schwarzenegger. 2. Yes...the tap water is excellent. I only buy bottled when I want carbonated water. 3. Lichtenstein is a principality. Major crime and or fire is in cooperation with Switzerland. They use CHF and although they have a famous trade in stamps, Lichtenstein post is also in partnership with Swiss Post. 4. I am frequently in Buchs as right there at the Bahnhof is the bus to Vaduz. 5. Next time you are in the area you should try the Rhetischbahn Chur-Arosa. Cheers and best to you and your missus.

@stevecooksley Год назад

I was really hoping for similar views when I travelled from Villach to Udine last year - instead, you get to look at the inside of tunnels for 2 hours!

@FusionZenFlame Год назад

Definitely another great review on this train!

@AndrewG1989 Год назад

Love to go to the Alps. Spectacular views as well 😍

@TheSitruc46 Год назад

Enjoyed the video!

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Год назад

great presentation👍👍

@simonholliday9874 Год назад

I use that stock regularly, including twice this weekend. I remit being introduced. These were SBB front line coaches for EC workings and the occasional domestic diagram. Getting a bit tired now, and SBB never carpets second class. The seats in second aren't bad at all, but have faded like everything else.

@HumbertoMesa Год назад

Thanks for the panoramic ride !!! 🇺🇾

@1511pety Год назад

The train at Bisschofhofen is most likely the TUI SkiExpress to the Netherlands

@Tbpker22 Год назад

Thank you, Dylan, for a truly spectacular train journey - where else are Panorama cars available?

@Thiermos Год назад

Hi, The SBB Panorama car are also available on some InterCity between Zurich and chur and on the Gotthard-Panorama-Express between Arth-goldau and Lugano (Only during a certain period during the year) and some EuroCity from Zürich to Germany...

@felixtheswiss Год назад

@@Thiermos There are only 12 of them, therefore a rare treat.

@Thiermos Год назад

@@felixtheswiss Ok, i didn't knew that

@markoobid2005 Год назад

Starting from June also on the Graz - Vienna - Ostrava - Krakow - Przemysl EC train.

@Thiermos Год назад

Great video! (as usual)

@DISCOPlayz Год назад

Soon I'm thinking of Reviewing SWRs class 444 soon but Amazing Video Dylan

@raleighsheffield841 Год назад

Thanks for the trip I didnt make. Oct. 2022 I was planning to purposely take the reverse of this train from Zurich as far as Schwarzach-St. Veit to make a connection for Villach. But when ready to book was advised track work east of Innsbruck would probably delay the train and I'd miss the Villach train. So I opted for an earlier Chur train with a 2 minute connection at Sargans to a RailJet which originated at Sargans. I was amazed that the 60-70 people making the same connection all made it, as it was a down the stairs run through the passageway and up the stairs to the RJ. The RJ was moving before I ever found my seat! This schedule took me via Salzburg for a connection to Villach. As it turned out the RJ was 20 minutes late into Salzburg and I missed the connecting train. So I had a nice lunch there and ultimately caught the very same train to Villach that I had originally wanted to take. Nevertheless, it was a beautiful sunny trip. The following morning I caught an early morning train to Lake Bled, Slovenia.

@louisthetravelspotter Год назад

Great review nice scearny

@Solo-vh9fm Год назад

I wish this train stopped at Liechtenstein, it would have been perfect for my Austro-Swiss itenary I plan to do sometime next year.

@tonymcdonnly6492 Год назад

Hi Dylan, good video. Loved the scenery. Because of you Dylan, it's only 1st class for me. The food especially the beer looked good. As long as their is a socket or cell phone charger on board I'm all in. Can't wait to see next week's video.

@johnplampin7274 Год назад

No mention of the Arlberg tunnel!

@sheilaathay2034 Год назад

💖

@weifengjiang7579 Год назад

Oi, I will not have anything said against those SBB 2nd class coaches! Comfortable seats all perfectly aligned with windows in bays of 4 - about as good as inter-city travel can get!

@johnd6487 Год назад

I was thinking much the same

@bslcity1893 Год назад

This is a great railway carriage indeed, I spent more than 6 hours from Basel (a city you must visit some time!) to Düsseldorf a few years ago. I would agree that these seats are very comfy and the airy interior is relaxing for a long journey. As a swiss and regular SBB user I can say that I like the comfort of the second class seats also. These are also comfy and recline a bit and I have no problems to spend a few hours there as well. I even prefer these over newer trains. Thanks for the nice video, I enjoy watching your content a lot.

@harryelliott4310 Год назад

Trains Station 🚉

@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi Год назад

Boa tarde Dylans diferentes trem por dentro lindo lugar gostei

@Tony-gv6ty Год назад

Great show.❤❤ I would definitely go first class for the amazing views. I thought the price was good.

@samtrak1204 Год назад

Panoramic coach is worth a trip to Europe again.

@henrikwessels3843 6 месяцев назад

It only costs 47€ in First class when booking with DB further to Stuttgart

@maxart3392 Год назад

I assume that the delay in Graz was probably due to some works on the line north of the city, leaving only one track operable (and thus waiting for the night train to come in). In Austria trains (now) ride on the right track, but out of Graz you were on the left track. The delay was probably planned and probably compensated by shorter stops at the intermediate stations.

@trainglen22 Год назад

These cars would work for the Canadian in Canada to replace the nearly 70 year old cars

@takenjupiter3234 Год назад

Have you ever considered Australia's journey beyond trains? Specifically the Indian Pacific or the Ghan

@luke211286 Год назад

I think I'm sold on this trip. However, as I prefer to take things more slowly, I'll stop by some calling points and spend a couple days there. A nice way of trying to explore the Austrian countryside. After arriving in Graz and spending a few days there, I would want to extend further to Vienna to and pass by the Semmering

@legoinventions6056 Год назад

I tried doing this journey the other direction on a bank holiday weekend last year… missed the train and ended up having to sit on the floor of a rail jet for 3 hours and change trains 3 times before reaching graz😪

@DylansTravelReports Год назад

Oh no!

@The0070049 Год назад

The second class seating is not that bad - it's 10 bays of 4/8 seats along an UIC-X coach of 26.4m . Compared to the "contemporary quality" of a RAB(D)e502 seating(20:11 - the connection to Chur...) - this stock from the past millennium is lavish! Btw: The night train at min 10:10(ZellAmSee) is a seasonal ski charter from the Netherlands. The rented couchette rolling stock is based in Crailsheim (GFF). These trains are sold as package tour only. The Optima Express is the summer job for this stock. The stainless sleeper coaches are managed by TRI - they were also supposed to support the lately introduced SJ Euro Night between Sweden and Germany ...

@markoobid2005 Год назад

No, the SJ Euro Night sleepers are newer AB32s type ex-ÖBB, owned by RDC, rebuilt from T2S sleeping cars. The stainless steel sleepers (AB30 ex-P type) are scheduled to run on the private "European Sleeper" between Brussels and Berlin/Prague.

@The0070049 Год назад

@@markoobid2005 Sorry - I confused something here ... of course it's AB32s for the SJ sleeper Germany-Sweden. Thanks for information about the TRI-sleepers - the upcoming European Sleeper. That's a brillant routing for an overnight offer. I remember travelling on the successor(EN Phoenix/Jan Kiepura) of the mighty Ost-West-Express between Prag and Amsterdam. That time, the train was routed via Cologne ... By this occasion I realized after some quick research, that the new night train will be run by a dutch company. The moral of the story is, that I really enjoyed a return ride later on this same journey betweeen Rotterdam and DenHaag with these ICK/exDB-Bm coaches - which left the Netherlands again shorlty afterwards to be transfered towards Sweden appearantly(according some other writer(Z20900) on this Transalpin-Video) However - always feeling quite jealous these days, seeing the prospering overnight rail offer towards our tourism rivaling neighbour ...

@johnburke5384 Год назад

Excellent video Dylan thank you....just wondering, who built the panoramic coach you were on ?

@moogmike1 Год назад

Great video Dylan, well worth the extra day's wait.

@paulthiel5145 Год назад

Also the Optima Express has got a good clientele and is quite popular with Turks living in Germany and Austria. They put auto carriages at the end of the train, so that the passengers can bring their car along. There are some good travel vlogs on this train on RU-vid.

@djackmanson Год назад

What a gorgeous route. I'm wondering if you were using different audio gear? The audio sounds rather "blown out" from peaking out the mic? Nonetheless, a beautiful trip with some magnificent scenery.

@davidwilliams8405 Год назад

Wow, looks like it was quite a spectacular ride through the Alps! I kept hearing kids singing "Do, a deer, a female deer...." Looks like it was well worth the money to take 1st class. A question, I'm neither a student nor a young fellow like yourself, but I was wondering if there was any kind or rail pass available in the U.K.? I'll traveling from London to Edinburgh, and by way of the Isle of Skye, back to Glascow, then to York, then London, and if it works out, to Southampton to catch the QM2. Just wondering; if not, I'm still good for the money. Good show Dylan, glad to see you haven't fallen of the face of the earth!

@jameswright7284 Год назад

If you're back in Switzerland I'd like to suggest the Zurich - Prague sleeper train

@paulraymond1357 Год назад

Great Video. If I was travelling on a 1st Class Interrail ticket do i still have to pay for an additional ticket on this service to sit in the panoramic window section?

@conradharcourt8263 Год назад

Thank you for a great many excellent images, one of which was entirely imaginary: any parent of young children will know that on long car journeys you may have to stop from time to time to let them 'run around'. So your saying that your stop was longer 'so the engine could run around' conjoured a wonderful image of a young locomotive leaping around the station to tire itself out! (To save anyone explaining I do know what the phrase really means BTW.🙂)

@eastwestdividetrains Год назад

When I took the Transalpin, there was a defferent loco put on the other end at Selzthal instead of the run-round of the same loco. Did you also notice that they added a second loco on the front from Innsbruck onwards? Possibly because of the gradients over the Arlberg Pass?

@user-co8bm3vc1d Год назад

That is a nice and quiet day but the seating plan on this and other Swiss trains puts me off. I know some of the high-speed ones have seats where you are not forced to look into someone's face. But these ones here are not right for me, especially when the train is packed with people and there is forced interaction with random strangers.

@Fan652w Год назад

I am quite sure your view is very much in the minority. The 'face-to--face' seating you dislike is almost universal on Swiss trains. (The panorama carriage was Swiss.) This means that in Switzerland, the seats are still almost always aligned with the windows, and you get a perfect view of the scenery. The vast majority of passengers want that.

@markoobid2005 Год назад

The Italian-made "Astoro/Pendolino Nuovo" trains, riding Munich to Zürich and/or (Frankfurt - ) Basel/Geneve - Milan are the only ones in SBB fleet to have airplane style seats. Simply because they weren't designed for Swiss, but for Italian railways. Yes I agree with you, I hate vis-a-vis seating and even more I hate compartments. But Swiss seem to be OK with that.

@user-co8bm3vc1d Год назад

@@Fan652w Not sure I'm all that bothered whether I'm in the minority or not lol. And having been on Swiss trains a good bit I know the panorama carriage was Swiss. As mentioned in the original comment. And also how 'universal' it is on Swiss trains.

@itsjohndell Год назад

Couldn't find the Menu link?

@simoncolenutt5228 Год назад

Who makes the panoramic carriges? Stadler?

@Timmy1eYT Год назад

Nice video, but I think you should look at your audio settings, as the voiceover is peaking a lot in this and a couple of previous videos.

@eddie_d1233 Год назад

I missed the link to the train menu?

@DylansTravelReports Год назад

Added now 😁

@anthonyholroyd5359 Год назад

I have travelled on seats very similar to the standard class ones for the 'two and a bit' hour trip from Visp to Geneva Airport. Maybe it's because I didn't have to pay (I am traincrew in the UK and was travelling on an 'international rail staff' voucher) Or perhaps it was because I'd just climbed a 4,164m Alpine peak that morning But I found the seat to be quite well padded, and comfortable enough. 😅😅😅

@paulthiel5145 Год назад

I always wonder why they don't just put one locomotive at either end of the train. By doing that only the drivers has to walk to the other side and no time is lost on shunting. It's the norm in The Netherlands for any loco-hauled passenger train like the Intercity direct.

@froedlmetallmann4643 Год назад

9:30 Pronunciation isn't half bad for a non-german.

@kevinellis8869 Год назад

Unusual for you to be operating on a 10 minute connection? I trust there was a Plan B?

@Fan652w Год назад

The 'tight' connection was in Switzerland, where if (as OCCASIONALLY happens) you miss a connection, there will be another train in (at the worst) one hour.

@Nightwatcher2401 Год назад

Looks like a Japanese train

@samtrak1204 Год назад

Why didn't you eat in dining car?

@sychanXXI Год назад

First :D

@heidirabenau511 Год назад

You're second

@GodAtum Год назад

no way im sitting on a train for 8 hours!

@imsbvs Год назад

Why not? I've done this Aberdeen - London & onwards, and will soon be doing 6+ hours Amsterdam-Berlin. Much more comfortable than flying for a similar length of time (unless flying business or 1st class)

@margarita8442 Год назад

did u make a loggy on the train ?

@XTREAMER5423 Год назад

Don't try the Polish sleeping cars, if you haven't already done. Those cars are really uncomfortable, the mattress is trash, it looks like sleeping on concrete. Even CFR Călători sleeping cars, with its ups and downs, are more comfortable than the PKP sleeping cars.

@user-co8bm3vc1d Год назад

And the tiniest of pillows too.

@XTREAMER5423 Год назад

@@user-co8bm3vc1d Yeah. But I went in a couchette from Bucharest to Oradea and it was certainly comfortable, long sleep, easy job

@robertwilloughby8050 Год назад

For a country that likes it's meat, Austria does vegetarian food RIGHT! And that's even with me being a fairly unrepentant carnivore. I have noticed this when these travel videos go through Austria.