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Gd bless you for providing this potentially life saving resource! 🙏❤️

Or death. The US has the highest maternal mortality rate of all developed countries by a chunk and teenage births already have such a high mortality rate it was seen as unorthodox for teenagers to marry young/ consumate the marriage before about 18 (year up or down) bc it was very likely they would not survive childbirth.

the same people who talk about consequences for the CHILD also refuse to allow sex ed to cover topics like idk… consent. and safety. and get surprised when unplanned pregnancies skyrocket, as well as teen pregnancies and maternal death. truly baffling the lengths some go to to punish women for having sex lol

Kids shouldn't need contraceptives. Children shouldn't be having sex.

​@@TomikaKelly people in puberty get aroused ... that's not their fault. I'd argue anyone that doesn't want kids shouldn't be having sex not just teens tho

@@TomikaKelly welp that's not how life works. A Healthy Teen will be sexually active and the type of parents YOU all are means a lot of teens avoid self pleasure witch means there getting that from other people I didn't do it with other people because I was more comfortable with doing it myself and had trama sleeping with men My younger sister is fully Asexual and is Sex opposed. So she's not messing around with other people. So Some teens won't but that's the minority not the majority

"You're too immature to decide to get an abortion. You're mature enough to be a parent though, good luck!"

Waow 😂😂 U serious?? Children need parents, that's how the PARENTHOOD works... Why y'all need to be soo soo soo soooooo du*b in everything 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

@@BeingBornAgain96 in Mississippi, an assaulted 12 year old was forced to give birth after the muddling of the laws meant their parent was unsure of if they could receive an exemption under the law, and doctors were reluctant to help in case they were prosecuted as a result. What kind of parenting are you expecting of a literal child who isn’t even finished with middle school, much less their own physical and mental development? How are they supposed to financially provide for their child, when they’re barely old enough to legally hold a job? For someone who’s calling people dumb, you really aren’t taking the time to critically evaluate the impossibility of being a child parent.

@@BeingBornAgain96 they mean forcing children to be parents. Then again reading comprehension isn't really popular in your crowd, is it?

Considering most abortions are done out of convenience....likelihood is a 15yo is being intentionally sexually active and careless. You could try to argue it's something nefarious like assault but that's less than 1%.

This! And not just teen abortions. Studies show that those who become sexually active earlier (about 13-15yo) are also at a higher risk for unwanted pregnancies and other mishaps (such as STDs) later in life. I suppose that once you start your sex life the way you do it influences how you will do it in the future. So starting off with unsafe sex practices makes you more likely to continue those practices. You'd think that society would want to intervene before unsafe practices are adopted, but nope... Because talking about a major part of romantic relationships is too scary for adults...

But sadly SA can happen to a child too

I mean.. not entirely... 100% on board with the sex Ed. And free contraceptive methods but not condoms alone, they are not always effective. People need education + a wide variety of contraceptive methods + abortion rights just in case everything else fails or someone gets r4pp3d

But preaching abstinence is so much better. If they dont have sex there will be zero pregnancies. People are just delusional, believing that just cause you tell kids not to do sth they'll listen. Same with "my kid tells me EVERYTHING" ... Dude. No they don't. I suppose some kids do, but the vast majority of parents that say that just look super ignorant to everyone else

How about safe sex but they still get pregnant ? What then ?

No kidding. They should be allowed no questions asked honestly they should need both parents consent to *not* get one

@@Noxthesergal EXACTLY

Exactly not to mention what if she was raped? I mean why sentence a raped woman or child who gets an abortion 5 years in prison when that rapist could be sentenced a minimum of 1 year in prison why should someone who gets an abortion automatically get sentenced 5 times the minimum of a rape charge sentence?

@@Noxthesergal tbh I think there should be some agency towards deciding whether to terminate a pregnancy. Like what if the child doesn’t want to terminate the pregnancy. Should we really give two parents the right to terminate the pregnancy against a child’s wishes?

​@@RenABFF0Are you gonna take in the homeless child?

The questions that need to be asked but sadly need to be asked to people with foolish answers

@@UnconventionalArtproject Sadly the only response people are going to say to this is “Because abortion is murder!! 😡🤓”

I think the issue is if the minor was raped by an adult, majority of minors are impregnated by adults...family members included :(

@@DangleeeenAnkle That is true. But even if that isn’t case, ppl are forgetting that minors are literally children themselves. They should not be punished lifelong because of this

She’s a child she shouldn’t be doing it anyway

I saw an ad that starts with a little girl, 11 or 12, I can't remember, walking into a clinic saying she's thought a lot about it and would love to adopt a baby. The receptionist obviously looks at her like 🤨 absolutely not, no ma'am. Then, a teenage girl, 15, comes in for an abortion and the receptionist informs her that they are no longer legal in that state. In what world do we live in where a child cannot legally adopt a baby, yet a girl essentially the same age can legally be forced to remain pregnant and give birth to said baby, then be fully responsible for it? Make it make sense.

@moose1113 We can't, as there is no sense left in such laws. And whenever a point like this is made, the people who support these laws choose to be ignorant or just bring up an old, overused and disproved "fact"

Children aren't legally allowed to adopt a baby, yet they're legally forced to keep a pregnancy and raise the child. Make it make sense. 🙃

So why was she sexually active if she knew what could happen.

@@Djx8E Grape and coercion are a thing

​@@Djx8E because not everyone receives comprehensive sex ed and therefore may not know that sex can lead to pregnancy

@@teenietinytony but so is being forced to get one.

@lindsaybunny19 sorry, i'm not sure what exactly you're saying ^^'

@@teenietinytony so is being forced to abort a child.

@lindsaybunny19 sort of depending on the reason, but yea. bodily autonomy is so important and it sucks how many people have it taken from them

SAME LMAO

Late post term abortion.

😂😂

@@DatAlienjust a little late lol

That same child may have also made the decision to have sex though. So they are adult enough to make a decision that would result in a child having a child? But they aren't a child when they make the decision to have sex? And obviously this is not the case for forced sexual activity.

​@bubbleclouds3188 The problem here is that the 15 year old needs parental consent to get an abortion. So basically the 15 year old is not mature enough to make their own decisions on what to do with their body but at the same time they're expected to have a child

@@bubbleclouds3188 where I’m from you can’t consent if you’re under age and I do believe 15 is pretty close to that line. So is it the person who determines what they went through was consensual or the law? In your case, the law says it’s can’t be consensual.

Mary was asked for her consent by God. So God understood choice while his 'believers' do not.

​@@bubbleclouds3188What?

Yes and remember a 15 yo pragnenent girl is a child to. Children should not be forced to be parents.

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@Co0olname. how is it correctly spelled? Apparently my spelling is so shi that not even autocorrect can save me lmao

@@Mawpawz😂 autocorrect dosent do much for me either

@@SandraLugn-nc1rkif they didn’t want it they shouldn’t of had sex it’s that simple I’m 15 n have 3 baby’s from 2 different pregnancies that came from r@pe n even if I did wish they came from a different circumstance I wouldn’t have it any other way they are the best things to have happens to me ❤

Same with my grandfather and my mom he told her if she had a baby she’d be locked in the house raising that kid till they turned 18. Well it did happen however my mom passed unexpectedly when i was 16

Ya but when your 13-18 why would u want sex u should wait till your married n unless your married u shouldn’t touch a man is a sexual way

⁠​⁠@@Nah_bron what you “should” do and what you actually do look wildly different, specially when you’re a teenager. Hormones make tons of teens horny and they’re going to have sex if they can and want to, that’s the reality, no amount of ideals and logic will stop that from happening

⁠​⁠@@Nah_bron what you “should” do and what you actually do look wildly different, specially when you’re a teenager. Hormones make tons of teens horny and they’re going to have sex if they can and want to, that’s the reality, no amount of ideals and logic will stop that from happening

@@Felixsleftbigtoenail did u reply to the same comment twice wit the exact same timg

@@francesboardman8584 do they have to be evaluated to make sure they understand their choice or is that automatic based on age? That's really cool that they have that though. I'm sure it saves so many lives

Oh god, are you ok?

Omg I’m so sorry that happened to you

I’m sorry that happens to u the same thing happens to me twice leading to two different pregnancy’s but that baby didn’t do anything wrong to have his or hers life taken away

Thats crazy but glad you could get the help

​@@Nah_bronyes but at 11 most people arent developed physically enough to give birth safely most likely need a caesarean and could have alot of complications so i understand the choice for abortion

Talk with your parents about this. If you’re mature enough to be sexually active then you should be able to ask for an appointment with a gynecologist. There are many options for hormonal and non hormonal birth control. Condoms should be combined to help prevent the spread of STDs.

based state

Abortion is when you medically remove a fetus that can not survive outside the womb so it is medical impossible to abort a child that been born.

Help I did too at first

No one said she was old enough. Here’s a thought- she’s not old enough to have sex, don’t have sex- or- they’re not ready to have a baby, so don’t have sex- crazy idea Ik

​@@emmy_grace crazy idea not everyone can choose to not have sex

@@ab5722 sure, but did you know that rape abortions account for less than 5% of all total abortions. but that opens up a whole new can of worms, that being abortion doesn’t heal trauma, it worsens it. abortion punished the baby, not the rapist. killing the baby wont fix what has happened to you, even if you claim it will. and who are you to use rape victims for your own personal gain? a large majority of women who have given birth to their “rape baby” love and advocate against abortion.

​@@emmy_graceSo women are only granted bodily autonomy in the 5% of cases, which is a made up number BTW😂, in which they have be violated first? So do I not qualify as a human being until someone violates me ?

⁠​⁠@@emmy_grace I’m sorry but the statistics for rape jump to 20% when we are talking about minors. Sure, an abortion doesn’t fix trauma that comes from rape and no one claims it does, but it does prevent further trauma from pregnancy.

Hah I wish.

As a male, you really shouldn’t have an opinion on this… 😬

@@mackadoodless Yes he should.

Thank you for supporting women’s rights ❤❤

@@mackadoodless Yet I still do, cry about it

what?

Equality for men and women 🙏

So when a kid gets rape and gets pregnant should they have those consequences put on them because they had sex?

Good!

If the 16 year old doesn't get an abortion they will be a parent who is responsible for making decisions about their child. The lines get blurred either way.

there are a lot of reasons. for one, adoption is not exactly all it's cracked up to be as a solution; it is incredibly traumatic for babies to have that maternal separation, and the stress that would come from tens or hundreds of thousands more babies being born and put on the state... it'd be very difficult to support that. the living children who have already been born, and are already in care, would suffer further. for those who distinguish between living children and unborn children, it is a no-brainer. the living kids come first. for another, pregnancy and childbirth can be incredibly dangerous, especially for children. a pregnancy could be career ending. it could force someone out of school. it usually will force someone to be financially dependent on a partner or parent. historically, the toll of pregnancy is a huge reason why women have been exploited in so many cultures. if you can be forced to be extra vulnerable for the majority of 9 months, at any time, and there's no way out, then your life isn't your own anymore. the systemic effects are staggering. also, an "abortion" is the name of any medical procedure that involves removing a dead fetus from a pregnant person's womb. it's a lifesaving procedure in cases where the baby dies and mom is at risk of sepsis. they're important for that reason. a lot of people who are pro-choice are not really pro-abortion though. literally just pro-choice. if someone's body is going to be used as life support for 9 months, they should get a say in that. they should get to say "yes" or "no." even if it means another life dies. people can't even have their _blood_ drawn without their consent, even when that blood would save a life, because at the end of the day their right to body autonomy is crucial; pro-choice folks just want that logic applied to pregnancy as well, because otherwise, afab people and women will always be more vulnerable to exploitation. however, there's an even more important point. one thing we can all agree on is that fewer unplanned pregnancies means fewer pregnant children, and fewer people having to make this choice, and fewer abortions. and we HAVE ways of reducing unplanned pregnancies! bulletproof ways! these include comprehensive sex ed in schools for teenagers, and more access to safe contraception. we know for a _fact_ this reduces unplanned pregnancies and abortion, and relieves a burden on the state bc fewer unwanted kids are put up for adoption/foster care. it _also_ helps to address the burden of pregnancy on pregnant people, by giving them a say in whether they want to get pregnant in the first place. so really, it's in everyone's best interest to vote for more contraceptive access and more education, whether you support freedom of choice or not. it becomes a little bit... curious, then, why the politicians and speakers who claim to hate abortions the most, _also_ are against contraceptives and sex ed. despite the fact that they'd decrease abortions drastically. see where i'm going with this? in the eyes of lawmakers, the incentive to outlaw abortion is the same as the incentive to get rid of contraceptives. they want sex to remain inherently linked to pregnancy, which is really really _really_ bad for women. it's not about reducing abortions at all, it's kind of secondary to them. a lot of "pro-lifers" don't have the good heart that you do, they have ulterior motives. i have tried to be as comprehensive as possible, hope this helps, feel free to ask more questions!

Well, basically, abortions are typically done in cases where the mother or child would not survive birth, or if the mother or child would be severely injured/diseased by the birth. Death and debilitating illness are typically things one would not willingly choose to go through. However, there are other reasons why someone may choose an abortion over carrying and then adopting out. Labour and childbirth is very painful, post-partum psychosis and depression are not uncommon, medical bills are very high for births, time taken off of work for maternity leave goes entirely unpaid in most cases, and there's always the chance that a person may not want to deal with 9 months of constant sickness. And, of course, there are several laws passing in southern states that give rapists power over their victim and child, as well as punishments that are being considered for women giving children to the state for adoption. Hope this helps ^^

Pregnancy has a massive physical toll on your health. Giving birth is often not something you can just walk away from after a few days, and being pregnant for 9 months has additional impacts on your ability to do certain activities. For someone from ages 12-18, the risk of complications is high and both the child and the pregnant person can die as a result. Furthermore, giving a child up for adoption in a system that has no way to ensure that every child is given to a loving family is not a good solution. People get abortions because of health issues, possible complications, because they didn’t choose to become pregnant and aren’t ready, or an inability to care for the child when it’s born. Abortions protect physical and social safety of anyone who can become pregnant.

hi so there are a BUNCH of reasons for this,for one pregnancy can be an incredibly traumatic experience, there are often complications, especially at a younger age. The person may also need medication in their daily life that isn’t compatible with pregnancy that they would need to ween off of at the cost of their own health- there is also a lot of shame involved with being visibly pregnant (of course there is with abortion too but hopefully it will become less judged by others) and all this isn’t even mentioning the fact that SO many things can go wrong at birth.

There is ALWAYS a risk to pregnancy. Pregnancy is inherently risky and more risky if you are a child. In addition the mental and emotional toll of pregnancy is HUGE not something a child should have to take on.

Never too late to fix a mistake, as they say 💅✨️

The 15 year old who wants an abortion? 🤷‍♀️

HAHAHAHHAHAH

nobody is casually getting abortions

its anti abortion people that don’t want sex ed

Is that the case though? Nope it's not. So it's our job as a society and parents and teachers to actually teach our kids and for our kids to have proper sex Ed, protecting and the su h

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That is pro-choice

@@barbarashepherd-hk6ukNo, pro life dosent want people using abortion as birth control and not caring.

I’m pro-choice and I’m not crazy about that either, but I don’t have the right to make that decision for anyone else.

Yes, but you’re still killing that same baby. Is age really the deciding factor? Is a newborn more valuable than it was 1 minute before?

​@@emmy_grace a foetus isn't a baby. If it was there wouldn't have been a need for a different word.

@@emmy_grace is an egg different from a chicken?

@@moonface710 yes. are you trying to prove me even more right? if an egg, which is the outer shell a chicken embryo, is separate from and different than the chick, then that’s an example of how a baby is separated from its mother’s body, and therefore not HER body. So it’s not “my body, my choice”, it’s “my babies body, my choice- which is death.”

@@emmy_grace when we refer to eating an “egg” we aren’t referring to the shell. if we go by what you say-that the shell is the “egg” and the stuff inside (embryo) isn’t actually the “egg”-then it would be proving that the embryo doesn’t actually matter, we still refer to it as the host (egg). it’s inside her body, it counts as her body. if it can stop relying on her body and still survive, then it is its own entity. as long as it’s using her body and her resources, it’s her decision. nobody should be forced to go through pregnancy and birth unless they want to.

nothing is

suspending a pregnancy

Hey now, they don't like it when we talk about equality.

you don’t need a law. there’s plenty of deadbeat dads that contribute nothing to the mother or the kid. just say you wanna leave your family bro. it’s pretty clear that’s what you’re after.

@ayana_marie except that men who do that get harassed by the government for the rest of their lives and get their paychecks garnished any time they get a job. So your comment isn't really truthful. No one wants equality. Obviously you don't.

are you vegan?

do you eat eggs

if someone else needed a kidney transplant, and you had a viable kidney but didn't want to have it removed for whatever reason, would you want to be forced against your will to donate your kidney? do you think other people should be forced to donate their organs against their will?

Do so for yourself in case you ever end up in a situation of an unplanned pregnancy. But don’t force your religion onto other people and let them decide for themselves what the best decision for their situation is. If you want others to be kind and accepting of you and your religion you must give the same respect in return. If you don’t, don’t be upset when people try to get rid of you and your religion. You reap what you sow.

I assume you are of course certified and registered as a foster parent

@@superwholockpotterhead9247 no, but I am a teenager who could be a victim. And potential victims should speak up. If humans are known for doing things for themselves, then potential victims would hypothetically stop abortion to save themselves from the mental pain that accompanies it. That is another great scar in human history. Choosing to save yourself instead of others.

And no, I am not a foster parent.

we should! but people are taken advantage of, and all protection can fail

@@sockYT ok that’s different and don’t have sex during ovulation if you don’t want child though, comes back to education

@@Kelseyx3 not all people have a regular cycle, and sperm can survive for up to 4 days

@@sockYT and that is why teaching people to learn their body and cycle and how to know when ovulating is important. It still comes back to education! There are tons and tons of resources available.

@@Kelseyx3 i agree people should be educated but that does not prevent all need for abortion

abortion can include pill treatments, you just need to get them prescribed

You can take the pill upto 10-12 weeks...while 99.81% of abortions happen prior to that...like 1-2 months gestation is 4-8 weeks...so idk why u surprised, cause like most dont know till after 6weeks, cause of the last period doctrine to aging gestation.

Sadly, yes

Did the daughter get pregnant without the parents knowing?

@@johnclaybaugh9536 wow. is that really your logic

@emmy_grace who said anything about logic? Who is going to present the teens life from being completely ruined? None of this stuff ever involved logic. A girl or woman can get out of 18 years of responsibility. The boy or man can't. That's not logical.

@@johnclaybaugh9536 here’s logic- if you’re not ready to be a parent, don’t have sex. And don’t even give me that bull about rape being the reason that abortion should be allowed. Killing a child doesn’t erase the horrible traumatic experience that girl went though, it worsens it.

You can't force anyone, including a child, into a medical procedure they're not okay with. The kid would have the baby in such a case

She literally cannot be forced to.

people are rarely forced into abortions, and if they are, it’s not by the medical staff. you’d be shocked at how many people are forced into giving birth tho

Like birth isn't deadly and traumatizing at all

@@ab5722abortion is always traumatic- birth is sometimes traumatic

​@@emmy_grace how does that make it better?

​@@emmy_grace Birth is always traumatic too. Talking about stuff you have no idea about

@@CL0V3RL3AF proof please. Please provide proof that literally every birth is traumatic. That is what you’re claiming after all

the reason why a good portion of people get an abortion is because they don't want to fucking die but ok

burden the victim of rape with a baby they cannot care for? okay

@SickAndMeanSAM a baby isn't a burden it's a gift from God and nobody is forced to care for it. Carry it for 9 months and they can put it up for adoption, drop it at a safe place, they literally have baby drop boxes at fire stations. It's not worth literally murdering an innocent baby because of what their father did

@@claireshaw7936 “religion religion religion” this is why we separate church and state

@@claireshaw7936 the way i see it, its not worth having your dignity and humanity stripped from you and being forced to harbor (and i hate to call it this, but) a parasite for 9 months. just like what the other commenter said, this is why we separate church and state.

I’d love to discuss with you. I’ll start by saying, adoption is wonderful. However, the adoption system in the US and the process of adoption is very problematic. Moreover, adoption is alternative to parenting. There is no alternative to pregnancy.

That is true with how harsh pregnancy can be on certain people it would be understandable for the mother to go through abortion but I would just hope under the values of life that I was on that doctor at least try to tell the mother that even if they would not want the child but don’t want to end its life then adoption is a possibility but that would be only possible if the mother would go through with the pregnancy if not then they are perfectly capable and understandable to go through with the abortion I hope this makes sense to a degree

I struggled with infertility for over a decade before I finally got my miracle. I had a healthy and eventless pregnancy and labor. Even on those extremely favorable conditions and circumstances, I wouldn't advocate for anyone pressuring a child to go through all of this. Especially if it's followed by the trauma of abandoning this newborn to adoption just after giving birth.

But giving birth in itself is very traumatic

@@carlairving true the trauma would be painful and pregnancy is painful so I can understand abortion to a degree but I also know death and what the cost of life can cause because of my work and the choices that I can make on those and every individual has that choice to either suffer for a life or to end that life both can bring trauma just you have to way which one is the easiest choice for you and I do believe that they should choose the choice but they should learn about other options so that they can know of a different possibility

Absolutely no right to force someone to carry a baby by showing "support".

@@meganludwig3781 Procreation of a child is the natural outcome of engaging in activities that create a child. It is unnatural to force a women to give birth to a dead child by having an abortion. An abortion doesn't simply zap the growing child out of their mother's womb but forces a woman to deliver a child who is no longer alive. In the case of rape, an abortion is not going to undo the trauma but instead perpetuate violence against the mother and the child. Abortions allow people (especially boys who don't want to be men) to not be accountable to the consequences of their own actions. As a generation we've been told that we can have relations with no consequences and so people engage in sex and are surprised when the baby making process actually makes a baby. That child is a unique individual who will has never existed before and will never exist again. To encourage further discussion on this topic, please think of all the little ones in your life. When do you think their lives began? If a baby already has the first start of a heart and heartbeat around 5 weeks after conception. If it's not right to end the life of a child right after they're born then why is it okay to do so before they're out of the womb? Women are so much more capable, strong, and resilient than society wants to believe. Especially with the incredible amount of free resources for pregnant and parenting women, don't you think support women to take accountability and be the badass women they can be without telling them that they need to take the lives of their children to succeed would be more productive. One final thought for now, 20 to 22 weeks have been the earliest a baby can survive outside the womb so far. Why not have the baby be delivered early then and give them the opportunity, a chance no matter how small, to live instead of deciding their fate and having their mother go through the trauma of delivering a child that they elected to end the life of. That's something that stays with you. Why not give them a chance?

it is medically dangerous for a child to carry and deliver a baby

​@lynnesolor9260 where did you get any info about this all your spouting is lies? The person dousnt deliver it the fetus is removed entirely and the person getting it goes on their merry way. Also banning abortion won't stop abortion it will only stop safe abortion, we will go back to the times where people threw their kids off bridges coz they douldnt care for them. I'd rather a kid not be born than it to suffer in this world but that's just me

@lynnesolor9260 I totally understand your side, but also the side of the women who get pregnant. I know if that were to happen to me my whole family would disown me, my boyfriends family would never let him contact me in any way ever again, and my friends parents wouldn't take me in because I'm 14. it's not gonna happen but say it did. what would I do then? I would have no one to depend on, I would have nothing. I'd be a homeless pregnant teenage girl. I'd be at a lot more risk to get pregnant again from rape. I'd have no where to go and with my mental health I wld end my own life. would you rather sacrifice one unborn life or sacrifice that unborn life and the life of a teenager who could always have a baby again in her adulthood?

What about rape?

It's that simple. Oh yeah because everyone has the choice right ?

birth control helps a lot of teens in more ways than just preventing pregnancy. maybe we should let medical professionals treat their patients instead of spewing nonsense on the internet. (i’m aware that there can be side effects and consequences of birth control, but it should be up to the individual and their doctor to decide if it’s right for them and if the potential negatives outweigh the positives or not)

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It’s when a person who is pregnant and doesn’t want to be pregnant goes to a doctor and says they don’t want to have a baby. The doctor uses a tool to go into the uterus and (for want of a better word) sucks the baby out. Gruesome. I have had one (15). I still greave. I’m 60. It was very much the right choice for me at the time. It was painful, both physically and mentally, but it was the right decision for me.

An abortion is brutal dismemberment and torture of a baby and hurting them step by step. It's brutal dismemberment. Slow torture of a helpless fetus. That's what abortion is. Fetus is "little one" in Latin. So it's picking on someone tiny!!

Abortions are only legal until either 12 or 26 weeks. They don't do it after that unless the mother is in danger

fetuses cannot survive outside the womb at 12 weeks, i don’t know where you heard that. according to the BBC, the worlds most premature baby (who survived) was born at 21 weeks and 1 day, but that’s INCREDIBLY rare and against the odds.

@moonface710 yeah I think I meant the stage where they have a heartbeat. I confused that for when the could survive

@@jjbrocka the issue with outlawing abortion after the heartbeat can be detected is that it’s pretty early on and many people don’t even know they’re pregnant at that point

Bro what

Bro what

To be clear, you're fine with kids getting abortions if they were raped right? Your opinion is still bad either way but this is slightly better.

its anti-abortion people who don’t want sex ed in schools

The father isn't the one giving birth and carrying the child for 9 months

are you saying the baby’s father should have just as many rights or shouldn’t?

What if the girl was raped would the father have the right to say if the baby should live

it's not about who has the rights to the baby, it's about who has the rights to control what happens in their own body. that fetus's father is not affected by it in the same way the person carrying it is

@@evilevilhorriblebad right but like that's his kid. i'm not sure if you know how babies are made considering you're probably 11, but it is equally part of the man and equally part of the woman. i'm not saying being pregnant is easy but i know for a fact that father has say in what happens with HIS BABY

I understand the thought, but there are plenty of situations where teens are forced to have to make these choices. We shouldn't be forcing kids to have kids because they were taken advantage of

Someone under 18 not being able to get an abortion doesn't prevent them from getting assaulted. It just forces them to carry their assailant's child.

Being under 18 doesn’t inherently protect you from getting pregnant. You can still get raped and become pregnant as young as 12, and forcing a child that young to carry an infant to term has immense physical and mental consequences for that child.

​@@rileynolette8010 So EVERYONE 15 and younger who is getting an abort¡on was forced? 🤔

​@@TomikaKelly Yes, because the age of consent is 15 (at least in my country) so a 14 year old CANNOT legally consent. When there's no consent, there's force

That's the difference, pro choice is u can CHOOSE. Not like pro life where you get ur right away from you. But being pregnant at that age still has MUCH risk, just because you survived doesn't mean it's the same for everyone 15 y/o. Hopefully your baby girl is happy and healthy. Good luck with your life

No one is forcing teens to get abortions. You chose to keep that baby and that is wonderful. But other teens may feel differently.

not everyone has the ability to raise a baby at 15 dude

It's not murder

@@kazbrekker1873 even though it’s just cells, it IS a living being, a living SOUL. I can understand that under certain circumstances it may seem like the only way out. But life is life, if you kill life even though is a small fetus, it was going to be a person, and killing is murder. Feminism has twisted the minds of women specially, making them think they have absolute power over their own body and it’s true, but human life must be respected. I don’t care what you say, we all know it IS murder.

@@aesthetic_magy0714 What are your thoughts on sperm and eggs? Would you consider those living people or only until the egg is fertilized? Genuinely asking.

@@aesthetic_magy0714can you scientifically prove the fetus definitely has a soul?

@@aesthetic_magy0714do you eat meat

This is terrible

Abortion is terrible

@@Bigguyyoung the idea that parents can deny their children healthcare definitely is terrible. I hope the US can join the rest of the developed world one day

@@GillOfTheNorth the parents are denying killing children

What if she was raped? Taken advantage of? What if she has complications that would lead to her death during birth? These are all common situations, especially for younger people who haven't fully developed.

unfortunately, if the mother was sexually assaulted and is not allowed to abort a fetus, the baby can be considered by the mother a reminder of her trauma.

there’s a lot of things that could’ve been so i think it’s better to focus on the fact that the person who didn’t want to be pregnant now is healthy and well- not pregnant, rather than on the “loss of life”. we should focus on those kids that are in the world right now and suffering, for all we know those may be the ones that currently cancer if we give them a chance

Let's be real: Curing cancer is rare and takes WAYYY MORE than JUST 1 person. The aborted person was likely going to be a shift manager at Walmart or the frozen foods supervisor at the Piggly Wiggly, and the world has MORE THAN ENOUGH of those...😬

@@TomikaKelly it was an example

And the fetus could have caused a 3rd world war so i don't see your point

because she can't support the kid to live a happy healthy life

@@Vlogsbyclaire29 newsflash it isn't a baby till it is viable AND born. Till then, yeah get an abortion. An embryo simply isn't a baby, and no teen should be subject to that kind of torture and life long injuries of live birth.

Shes 15? She cannot raise a kid in her current state. Also its not alive till its born

do you eat eggs

@@SickAndMeanSAM No im vegan