Parents Lose It After Realizing Their Son is the Killer 

Problem is he still could be he possibly gets out in 2043 like wtf he needs to be there for LIFE

@@jennidv75that’s not long enough at all!

For sure. Look at the deviant he is at 17. Committing crimes like this. It would only have gotten more depraved and committed more often.

I agree 100%. He was definitely a major danger already. I'm glad he got caught first time doing it.

@@jennidv75that’s life here in Canada. You could kill 10 people and you will only get 25 years total.

Richard Ramirez made the same excuse, that people didn't lock their doors to keep him out. It's such weaksauce.

Yet his mother seems like a decent person. How can her kid turn out like that?

​​@@thatvalensteingirlYou're probably right but I don't remember him actually saying it made it their fault or absolved his guilt. I heard him say something like, "Know how you're told your whole life to lock your doors and windows at night? You should actually DO that. People will never know how many houses I simply passed over when the entrances were locked to simply find an easier, unlocked one nearby which there always is."

​@AlphaGeekgirl ,I don't think it was his mom or dads doing that their kid is a killer, i think hes was just born with his brain wires crossed.

@@AlphaGeekgirl Because kids of his age think for themselves and sometimes do things they were never brought up to do.

Given he was breaking cerfew and wouldn't have wanted to risk waking his parents up do you think he jumped in the shower to frantically wash the jam off his dong or did he just go straight to bed?

He lied about his timeline anyway. He wad there for like two hours .

@@shroomologist This is the kind of thought a shroomologist would think of:) Have a nice day.

Really? This is typical behaviour of someone trying to cover their tracks. Makes 100% sense preventing his mom finding out he had snuck out was his priority, as that was the first person likely to tie him to the murder.

He wasn't worried about getting in trouble with his mom. He was worried about maintaining his alibi that he was at home and asleep during the murder.

True. May not be the same situation but when my grandma died, my body didn't feel much for the first week or two before i actually brgan feeling sad. The bodz just doesn't know what to do

Yea that could be it. The sin always seemed to worry more about what his mom would say or think so I wonder about her responses

I have a hard time showing emotions so i understand the moms first reaction. I shut down bc i dnt know how to react.

Absolutely agree that mother was in terrible shock. Everyone must have been

I 100% agree. 15:09 16:59

Right, out killing ppl. What is going on

I was on track at 17 to be this kid, it's the fact I had a mother who wasn't a pushover that set me straight. Enabling parents do huge amounts of harm.

​@@superoffended6737Kudos yo your mother and to you, for listening to her and not becoming like the kid in this video.

@@superoffended6737did you just admit to almost becoming a murderer?💀 His mother obviously didn’t know anything especially with his shit acting

⁠@@jul2447or…. Or… hear me out. He could be just talking about the thieving and breaking in cars.

They also left her alone in that house to fend for herself. I don't think her family cared that much...

@@abcd-ug8tj Uhm yes???? Most people dont murder and sexually abuse a 98 yo womans corpse. Thats more than "fucked up"

@@skallygWho are you to rob even 1 day of someone’s life? Are you trying to justify this? Jesus

​@@BBCBOY919His comment is vile.

@@skallygu are going to end up in one of these videos lol.

A word of advice from somebody who had a similar aged grandmother. Cherish the fact she's still with you. Call her tonight. It may not seem like much in the moment, but it'll mean the world to her, and to you down the line.

My great gramma is 94, and I can't imagine someone doing something so vile to her. If I was Gavon's sister or a female relative, would've needed a drink after finding out my own flesh and blood could do something so vile.

I loved my Grandma she helped raised me ❤ she passed away when I was in my early 20s

Not all of it, that early fuck up at the start could've ruined the whole interrogation.

Yeah she did an amazing job with him. Holy shit! This case is disturbing and heartbreaking. Watching his dad when they were told, stabbed my heart. What is super disgusting and weird is the blackberry jelly, like whhhaaatttt????? It's complete bs that he's gonna have a chance at being paroled!! I hope there are still people around to go to these parole meetings and remind them of allllll of the nastiness that is Gavon.

How much is she getting paid?

@@markgonzales1970 Not enough.

You have no idea how much she’s paid for her job. 😂

Yeah senate was out of their mind for passing that bill. Original judge sentenced him to die in prison. Doesn’t mean he gets out in 25 years he goes to a parole board so hopefully the parole board keeps him in there

oh so you think you're better than the judge and the judicial system?

@@Guywithcoolusername1625And what if they do?!

He got life with the possibility of parole after 25 years because he was a minor

​@@Guywithcoolusername1625infinitely... the fact you don't says everything about your lack of morals.

That’s the liberals for you. I live in Cali and I’m friends with a lot of corrections officers and they are appalled at some of these new laws. Like how prisoners get tablets and phone now and can watch tv and go to the gym here in Cali. Liberals are so scared of punishing criminals.

I hope by the end he becomes rehabilitated but knowing the us prison system this is not gonna happen at all. This is a systemic issue.

Life in prison for killers

@@Viggggggr how is that any useful for rehabilitating them though?

He's got no guarantee of getting out after 25 years. He's ELIGIBLE to be paroled then, but that doesn't mean he will be.

yuh ok

It's sad. Good normal people don't want their own children to grow up to be murderers they want them to be decent. Some people just don't have it good in life.

@@laceylovley6535 You mean his 98yr old, helpless victim!

It was his mom may made him a psychopath. She was trying to throw him under the bus and she had no emotion what so ever.

he is the only one from that family that understand the crime, neither the son nor his mother grasped it.

Timestamp?

@@OliveMule 10:22

U sociopath wtf seek help​@@aliceDarts

Its also so creepy statement when Margaret usually left her door unlocked

That pissed me off. Because excuse me???

Anyone can be rehabilitated, just not in the us prison system. The reoffending rates are incredibly lower in norway.

@@RadioactiveBluePlatypus I like your optimism, but I'm willing to bet very few to none of those successfully rehabilitated people are mentally ill murderers/rapists.

​@@RadioactiveBluePlatypus​, psychopaths CANNOT be rehabilitatied!! He has NO SOUL!! I only feels for himself!! He's a waste of taxpayers hard earned money!!!! G-- help us ALL!!🙏🙏😡😠🤬😱☹️

@@tammyward2932 actually psycopathy is a heavily stigmatized disability that is generally not understood by people. Studies have shown that quote: "a growing body of evidence suggests that psychopathy is not strongly linked to increased violence and criminal behavior." as stated in the paper "Negative attitudes towards psychopaths: The role of one’s own psychopathic traits" by Guillaume Durand et al in 2017.

💔

Fr!

The lowest of life

Makes you want to tell your love ones you care about them! ALMOST!

She was 98 and living on her own too!! She must have been a firecracker to survive 98 years and still have the fortitude to live on her own.

I thought about that too!

Pretty common victim blaming mentality

He's so fng creepy and sick...

First thing he said of the second interview "I ruined MY life" very selfish

Sounds like dark triad reasoning. The onus for their antisocial behaviour isn't on them to control and refrain from, but on everyone else to protect themselves against it. They're just an agent of chaos, minus the personal agency.

"Young lady"? How condescending.

this must be a ridiculously small town. does this lady highhandedly interrogate everyone for everything? and she has time to have this kid come in every day for a couple weeks and talk about all kinds of BS hes been getting into for the "climbing on top of a church" a few nights ago"

I was playing with play doh at that time 😂

@@MJ98.at 17???

I was playing Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto Da an Andres on the PlayStation 2.

I was in collage studying horticulture and biking 20 miles a day. Cant understand this lads deal.

​@@Auto-respond-bot I'm 27 and STILL playing with Play-Doh. WITH my wife, shits a blast from start to finish.

Amd the fact she tried to fight back and left defensive marks on the suspect. That was one tough granny. I can see it in her picture. She's tough as nails. If she was any younger, that kid may not have stood a chance.

They don't make em like that anymore

​@@Who_Dey420 Must have even been WW2 nurse?

The female detective who talked to everyone - she needs an award for this case... she handled everyone caringly

What baffles me is why on earth she didn't lock the door? It blows my mind that there are people out there that don't lock their doors when there's all sorts of crazy people out there every generation.

The chance of him being released is low

It's because the us sucks at rehabilitating criminals.

​@@RadioactiveBluePlatypustry living somewhere else then!! America is nor perfect, but it's still not GREATEST country on Earth!! This monster CANNOT be rehabilitated!! He is a serial killer in the making!! Heaven help us ALL 🙏 ☹️🤬😡🌎

​@@RadioactiveBluePlatypus not just he US tbh

@@jimbo_1312 true. It's just the country I've done the most research about the prison system because of a school project I had to do.

"I wish you had locked your doors, I would have walked away because I'm too lazy to break in."

He's not even sorry for that, he's sorry he got caught

I agree he is just sorry he got caught. Why do they always want to write it down? Does it give them a thrill?

@@ccurrie9672 it does, they get to relive the experience while they're writing and know they'll be putting it into the mind of whoever reads it.. it's really a psychological power play, they control the narrative 100% . Narcs get really angry when you don't "follow the script" they have built in their minds about the way an interaction should go, this is a way for them to make sure you have exactly the information they want you to have

His response was what he thought he should say, not what he was really thinking. Even after explaining everything he did, he still felt the need to lie about his thoughts.

stay in touch with them, it’s seems the one through line with all these crimes is the only way they get solved is the friendly neighbor who always checks up on them.

My neighbor has dementia and his family have to lock him in at night which is dangerous but otherwise he would be wandering. He opened the window and was shouting that he was starving ..he wasn't he is well fed three times a day and he is out during the day sitting on his bench talking to neighbours. Unfortunately his family live a block over so we all keep an eye out for him. We all deserve a safe world where elderly people and kids can wander around and not be murdered though.

Same.

​@@serendipidus8482 it sounds like it's time for him to go into care.

I have zero tolerance for people that have any tolerance for these kinds of people

like just SHOW ME 😭

Yeah the over dramatic narration for an hour straight is annoying

Absolutely agreed. I was like "If you weren't saying that all the time, we would already know!"

I know the narration / commentary is actually annoying. They don't let people just watch the footage and decide.

Seriously. It’s obnoxious and makes these videos difficult to watch. We don’t need to be told every 5 mins of video that what happens next will shock us. That’s a given considering the subject matter

Yes he is a psychopath

A True Evil

Yes he is ! , which is why he is like he is

He could possibly have many years left to progress to that !

Good job repeating the top comment, smh. 🤦‍♂️

there’s even footage of him sexually assaulting her corpse. he is pure EVIL

It's a trophy

FR I have videos that look similar I took of my grandma just so I'd always have it and one makes me happy, the other fills me with dread and horror

Made me sick

yeah i could not watch that part had to skip thru it shit was hard to watch

Probably not, it's all pretty known and well-documented behavior

He should never work at a Jelly factory

This is the type will say he didn't have legal representation and get the confession thrown out 🙄

Society is not really that inclined any more to pay for these kind of life-sentences.

Yeah… but since he was a minor he can get out. Hopefully… these issues get addressed while he’s incarcerated or he’ll be a real nightmare

@@MimiB1974 That's correct in terms of the law. But he deserves life without the possibility of parole.

Theyre mentally very messed up. Id say they are born without functioning amygdalas that part of the brain for empathy. He was in councelling told his councellors this stuff and they should have svanned his brain to see if he was a psychopath and put him in a secure mental hospital to try to treat him and keep the world safe. Somone without empathy is a threat to everyone. If he had covid he would be locked up to save the granny but hes got a messed uo brain and nobody even does anything about it?

100%

He seems pretty tortured. It’s sad. Clearly his parents were trying to protect him from himself. Too bad for all of us that they were unsuccessful. As a parent I don’t know what I’d do with a child who just makes such poor decisions and knows it.

​@sw6118 he ne didn't care until he got caught that's why he started crying the second time he got pulled in

@@crazychase98 I can’t speak as to what he cared about, other than to say that he clearly loved the adrenaline rush more. He clearly knew that he was stuck on what he calls the darkness. He knows that he is different from other people and he’s struggling not to be what he appears to be.

Exactly

Maybe. ...or maybe it IS the other kid. ...or maybe it's BOTH kids. As an undiagnosed and over-drugged autistic kid, I had a lot of "behavioral issues" and got in a fair amount of big trouble as a preteen and early teenager. Sometimes I was the bad influence on my friend. Sometimes my friends were a bad influence on me. Sometimes my friends and I were getting in trouble together because we were all "bad". (which was the case most of the time) Not all parents are in denial just because this one particular mom is. ...and when it does happen, it's really not that surprising. Accepting that your own child is a monster has to be one of the hardest psychological mountains to climb. Love and denial are *VERY* powerful emotions - especially when they're mixed with a traumatic event.

Lmao yea she didn’t want him hanging around braden, meanwhile the entire time her son was writing all these different scenarios in his journal of him murdering braden 😭😭😭

@@marquisperkins4578 the boomers failed us should have been tougher and harder

I was a nanny for a bit and the "bad" child is often the honest one and the "good" child is often a borderline sociopathic manipulator.

It's more than that. It's not just a "jerk" or "criminal." Anybody with that mentality is an actual sociopath

If Margaret had locked her house , she wudnt be dead rn smh , how come PPL dont lock their houses

​@@DGen7 but he still killed her did he not a killer is a killer a robber is a robber ab a liar a liar

He blamed the lady he murdered for not locking her door. He has the darkness in him because he invited it in. He remains in the darkness because he enjoys doing evil perverse things.

i knew there was something wrong with him when he first said that. That's how a leftist thinks with their "peaceful protests" and anyone who defends them.

Mirroring can be a very effective psychological tactic for interrogators, so it's not surprising at all that the officer did that. You're very perceptive for picking up on that though!

That man committed a wicked crime and did NOT deserve any courtesy. Children yes ...BUT not this one.

​@@susandouglas4470 Without that courtesy, it's unlikely that they get the full story from the person being interviewed. The detectives probably feel no sympathy for that monster, but they have to put up the act to get them to talk.

​@susandouglas4470 I believe it's all a part of the Reid technique, investigator didn't do it to console but to make sure he can get all the information available

⁠@@susandouglas4470 the irony of what I’m bout to say is crazy but thank GOD you’re not a detective . Her getting down to his level physically help bring his guard down to spill what happened. Detectives some times used these tactics to get people like this to tell what happened. She didn’t felt sympathy for the man she noticed she can use such a tactic on a kid who was faltering and used it

@@desertweasel6965 ♡~

Maths is fun!

This right here!!! We let Margaret down, imagine spending an hour talking to this lady, we disregard them, think them old, what do they know? Society was at fault here too! All those neighbours?, nobody keeping an eye? Everyone minding their own business, what the hell have we become?😔

@@jwatty8429 Math not meth!

@@headron66 A bunch of virtue signallers and keyboard warriors trying to claim the moral high ground?

Nope, no devil but the boy.. that boy doesn't get off that easy. Those were his actions.

Nah, not even Satan would do something this fucked up. You gotta remember he punishes bad people. The boy did all this on his own, his own actions. So when he does die, if there is a heaven, hell or whatever, he will be suffering for what he's done.

DRUGS

Serial killer?

There is no devil grow up

And that he wanted the adrenaline rush 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ he also said he was delivering karma to the 40 year old from grinder. He thinks he's god 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ typical narc.

I bet he concidered a really late abortion

I thought the killer was the victim's grandson. Somebody corrected me.

Yes, compared to his mum. I know she was in shock but she seemed more bothered that her son would go to prison for murder rather than brutally taking a person’s life like her husband’s reaction was.

​@@yousladyskwisgar8977That was not her grandchild. They just lived in the same neighborhood.

Ok….AND? No matter wtf he did or does THATS. HER. BABY. PERIOD. You OBVIOUSLY dont even have kids to speak about how her emotions should or shouldn’t be shown….. IDGAF what my daughter does ill NEVER disown her and i can guarantee id NEVVVER EVVER leave her side NO MATTER WHAAT … Have children before u think u can pass judgment on HER emotions

Age 15 for me. I mourned the loss of the child I knew and the one I no longer recognize.

And you may find yourself mourning this loss of your child you no longer recognize for decades. An unimaginable hurt.

@@maccthelab5165 Too many are quick to blame the parents but each child/person has free will to choose whom they will be. History and the Bible has recorded numerous excellent parents who had evil children.

@@beaglerescue5281 People blame the parents because many times it very much is their fault. Even if they refuse to see it.

@@CryosisOfficial And sometimes it isn’t.

I don't think she really knew it part of her probably was about to connect it but she probably blocked her own self because of the idea of her own son doing this must be impossible for her

Exactly which is why she cut his insurance which stopped him from running away..

Yes she did..her reaction wasnt suprised ...cuz id be like "wait..why you questioning my son"? & texted him "they're looking for someone." A mom would say stay inside or BECAREFUL ..

I’m a mother of six, I was watching this mother’s reaction to everything that’s happening I straight away knew she knew what her son is capable of. A mother should know her son, I really felt for the dad he was genuinely brokenhearted with what his son did and that what I was hoping the mother would felt. If any of my children did such a a horrible thing I would have been so heartbroken angry and feeling that I have failed as a mother. Condolences to the family of the victim 💔🕊️may she rest in love ❤️

Yeah I was thinking, either she's clueless or just not wanting to hear what she was going to hear in a second.

God Bless Her

Only to not lock your doors!

god clearly didn’t bless her, now did he.

*Sings the Great Circle of Life*

​@kanwal6310 such a wee shame. Ik he said he wouldn't have went into the hpise if it wasn't locked. But I doubt that coming from him

That's the "feeling side" of the thing. But, it's not only upsetting. It is the epitomy of the behavior pattern going with such crimes.

Because he is a psychopathic narc

@@znmm2588 It is scary to know there people like that🙁

@@afishcalledwandaHe is a psychopath. He only care about himself and he will do it again if he is given the chance.

me me me me....

Forget “stranger danger” time to get on that “familial fear”!

His mother is as out of touch with reality as her son. She is as fake as a $3 bill

You say that as if she knew it was her kid. However the father's reaction was way more visceral.

@@tokenghost4536 I more so meant it’s crazy how sometimes you never really know people, even your own children. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t saying she was aware of what he was doing, that’s why it’s so crazy to me. Because you never know..

@@jennnna5150, I dont know how that person thought your comment sounded as if she knew it was her son, I knew what you meant and didnt get that feeling from the comment. Weird.

Oh then following your logic I am a murderer who just haven't made it to victim 1. And so you are... 🥴

@@Kiev-en-3-jours You are following nobody's logic except your own......

@@Kiev-en-3-jours he ALREADY murdered someone and you DIDN'T, what logic is that

@@Wintersesr I think the logic is pretty obvious. In both cases we are accounting murders that never happened. That makes him a serial killer and that makes the rest of us murderers. Anyway I understand what you meant. I agree he would have kill again.

@@davidrele I am not the one accounting people with murders they never commited... I just apply what she did to him to the rest of us. Oh suddenly it is not right? 😅 It's always the same hateful comments after those videos. What about learning decency from that great empathetic female cop in the video?

Yeah. She was watching Errol Flynn and gone with the wind in the theaters. What a shame!

😢

😢😢😢😢😢😢im so saddened for this lady....

Ww2 started the next year....

@@Rubylily2509 Imagine her family.

@@bridgetonowhere I was listening while I was grocery shopping, and people must have been looking ay me funny bc my facial expressions were all over the place. I may have even been responding out loud 😂 My reaction at the very end when he basically asked “how long am I gonna be in jail?” ???? Omg the gasp that came out of my mouth 😱😠😤

He's a sociopath. They have no empathy or feelings for other people . They can cry because they got caught. Everything is all about them.

Yup 1st thing I said when he said that ish Like I knew it He only cares because he was caught

@@charlesovercash8862everyone says sociopath and psychopath like these people are choosing to be that. These people’s brains don’t work like ours bro.

Speaking for myself, I’m like, “Yeah, get it out of your system so they can take your punk ass to prison. You don’t want the homies to see you crying…but stay tuned. They are gonna LOVE you when they find out what you did. And they will find out…”

Detective: Didn't ask, buddy 😊

I burst out laughing at this moment

@@merlinbotha363 lmao. Kevin Hart is like that, every interview he is in he exclaims that he's not gay lmao. He's probably got 4 men in his bed right now lol.

His buddy is definitely a fruit picker

Gavin and bradon are definitely gay together, that was my first thought, they were looking for a place to do gay things, trying to hide it from their family

Murderers look for peaceful neighborhoods specifically sometimes

Even I keep my house locked at all times eventhough I live in the middle of nowhere surrounded by forests and an old graveyard on my backyard

My dad as well he been robbed a few times bc the neighbor knows he don’t lock doors his excuse we never had to lock doors which I remember the doors always being open when my grandparents was alive

@@hideriplays2626 I would especially lock our doors if we lived somewhere remote. At least in a city or town, the law of plenty [of houses] dilutes the chance that they may randomly pick your house, but in the middle of nowhere yours is the only one.

It’s crazy to me that people don’t keep their doors locked at all times. I’ve seen posts from others on Nextdoor about how some random person just walked into their home. No thanks. My doors stay locked regardless of the time of day.

Why is this so surprising to anyone? His journal entries and admissions clearly show that he lacks empathy and compassion for others. Self-preservation, such as being upset and worried about ruining his own life, isn’t uncommon, even in people who are sociopaths, psychopaths (which are two different things, despite being used interchangeably), narcissists, or have personality disorders. They don’t feel emotions for others but will feel sorry for themselves and do anything to save themselves. They also care about how they’re perceived by others. For example, Gavin mentions his family being embarrassed and humiliated, which is why he doesn’t want to admit to the acts of sexual assault. I don’t understand why people are upset or stunned that he doesn't know about his victim when he clearly states in his journals that he doesn’t care about his victims but doesn’t want to be in prison forever. Instead of being insulted at how he doesn’t feel bad he committed bad and asking why it happened, ask how it happened. This is much more complex than simply being "born that way," which we know isn't true in this case. It's also harder for children with these tendencies, thoughts, and disorders to hide them. He didn’t show any signs of sociopathic behavior before puberty, and there’s a reason it started after puberty. It wasn't because he was born that way; it was due to his psyche being warped by external influences. And I could get into them but unless it’s complex and complicated so unless people are actually interested in the pathology of perpetrators such as Gavin and not just pulling the “oh no, he’s so evil and etc and I’m so disturbed and blah blah blah” but never want to actually explore how cases like this happened.

@@bradenharris8718 Your explanation is really informative... How can people get educated about this? What sources of information can we use? I'm extremely interested in a more detailed explanation

He's a psychopath or sociopath. He feels no remorse, acknowledges this, wishes he did, but cannot feel empathy for anyone.

@@iventi6977 theres' tons of articles and books online that are a search away. Start with looking up ODD, conduct disorder, and ASPD. Psychology is fascinating, and google is your best friend

Why are you shocked??? What are you people thinking? Yes, he is sad he ruined his life. His life is what is important for him. He doesn't care about others.

They will never be the same. My deepest condolences to all.

Thats just it…. The father’s emotion. Have you seen his mother? She had ZERO emotion. That woman scares me.

@@Brando-wc8fz she's in shock.

​@Brando-wc8fz she's in shock, she would have so many thoughts going on in her head for that poor old lady that family and knowing that her own child did it.

​@Brando-wc8fz she was shocked and probably still hopping he didn't do it. Hope always dies last. Then she had 2 more kids to think of, she didn't want them to know yet. You can see when she called older son to go out so they don't have trauma from police going through the house. I mean even after vid I do not know what I would odbeside being numb from shock. Poor family from both sides and old woman....

True - just heartbreaking from every angle, and for everyone 😢

really feel for the parents.

He's not a child..lll

@@blancabulgrin5560 He's still very much a child. The age of adults needs to be raised bc certain parts of the brain aren't fully developed until mid 20s. The part of the brain behind the forehead, called the prefrontal cortex, is one of the last parts to mature. This area is responsible for skills like planning, prioritizing, and making good decisions; allows us to process the pros and cons of a decision before it is made.

My aunt was in her nineties when two men broke into her home and robbed her and tied her up and who knows what else. She died two weeks later.

That's all the lie. He doesn't care about his mom or anyone.

No logic. No common-sense. I am disgusted and horrified beyond measure. 😢 The parents, I just cannot imagine. 💔 I hope they stay strong and be there for each-other. Complete sociopathic-psychopath! Glad he got caught so young! Keep your doors and windows locked 🔒! What a horrific way to leave this world. That poor woman 😭!

She's lost her child either way

@@dsmusicbirdhe has common sense he just has no conscience and feels no empathy

​@@KmvSmithhe dont have commom sense, someone with it dont comitê crimes, simple

I agree with you, I even thought his dad will collapse when he got the news

And, the Mom? Emotionless.

The mother is lost. Her heart is broken, she doesn't know how to process and grieve this situation. It's very hard to navigate, so dont sit there and judge herbehind a screen based on how you THINK she should react. You have no ideawhat shes going through.​@bernicezappala7958

@@bernicezappala7958 Yeah, that's what I took away the most. I wonder if some of what Gavin might be genetic from his mom's side or perhaps there were things that happened between him and his mom growing up too.

I don't understand her reaction either but she did say that she couldn't cry. That I understand. When told my daughter died unexpectedly I became frozen. I couldn't cry. It took a few hours before I let out a scream and cried my heart out. Maybe this happened to her although I have a feeling that the notion her son could be involved probably passed through her mind. My condolences to Margaret's family and friends.

"if +would have been" ... wtf you smokin' bro ??

Oh, Star Wars video game playing doinks are usually the least educated.

I keep my doors locked during the day too

She got to 98 without locking her doors, must have seen some stuff in her lifetime and some wee git comes along and hurts the most vulnerable in our society. Imagine spending an hour in conversation with her? We have a responsibility! We let Margaret down too. 😞 RIP Margaret

people call me crazy for locking doors. if someone wants to break in they can make some noise and alert me so I can be ready.

We stay strapped for a reason.

Yo if her child is capable of it so is your sons.

@@weebsmcgee7012 Not necessarily at all, yo.

Yo 😆

not if her kids are normal

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was gunna say. I know loads of people with both and the worst they act is tired so i know they having a bad time. Some of them its self induced and they act like it isn't. For example they sat playing computer games throught their teens, 20s and 30s then spend all day on social media, they have zero hobbies or purpose and it grinds them out to a point they are depressed but its by their own doing. I feel like shaking them and throwing there phone away and telling them to get a hobby for goodness sakes..know what i mean its like obvious some of them just need to be more productive even going fishing

You would never understand that cause you're not in their situation but I understand that, no offend to what am going to say. I have a mental illness too, and sometimes because of anger, I want to break something hurting mys3lf but everytime I do that I feel not satisfied till it comes to my thoughts to try it out to anyone, torture them and kill anyone but still am holding myself. Instead I should just cut myself than to hurts anyone. No one can judge someone with their state of mind. Cause for us. It's really beyond. 😢😢 but still feel sorry for the old woman 💔she may RIP

@@swordartonline7269 I do understand im a Scottish ex Paratrooper was homeless at 13yr old but i was lucky enough to be a big boy even at 13yr old i was over 6ft and 14stone. Im from proper Scottish Celtic/nordic farm boy bloodline Was fully grown by 15yr old height wise at the same 6ft5" i am now. Even when in was younger i realised i was physically bigger and better at things that required large men to do. What ends up happening even in the army is they are very good at putting you against older guys that can not just deal with your "big kid with spring chicken energy" but that know exactly who you need to be with and compete with to stay hungry/relevant. Maybe i was lucky but id like to think i was just kept busy and threfore never had any time to feel sorry for myself or pick up any bad feelings towards anyone and i genunely belive a busy brain not only repairs fast it replenishes better than it previously was. If i never had my hobbies and my spray painter tunrned coach buolder turned marine mech then my current boat builder job i do.. and wasnt pushed hard by the military. I doubt I'd feel so good at the end of the week when i did pick up that first beer, wine or dooby or whatever. Ive been through really nasty things in my life mate and i wouldn't wish what I've seen in war on anyone.. but all you can do is make the right choices not set any big targets just do the thing that interests you and mix it up with what is uncomfortable now and again to keep you a balanced human. We are a body of energy mate if we dont recycle our powers fast enough we get stale and go wonky. Some of us just need drained faster and charged faster some of us don't like being anything other than 90% full constantly and pay the price for not discharging regulaly.

He pretended to have that. If have this, he was hoping it would give him lesser sentnece

@@swordartonline7269 aside from my last reply about depression mate, absolutely agree. You would need to be born evil to even harm a near 100yr old human. What an utter disgrace of a human they have no right to claim any mental illness caused this. I'm suprised this hasnt been mentioned on more on the comments on this vid, that if you need an example of the ultimate bully that picks fights they cannot lose then a wee old woman thats been about since before ww2. Who on earth would ever have a problem with the poor wee woman other than someone born Evil. I dont care what depression or what anyones issues are.. to take it out on factually one of the oldest therefore natuaraly physicall weakest person they could means they are an evil bully rather than anything that can be described by a doctor as an illness. Some of the most legitamate and nice people i know were treated like cattle as a kid so thats my proof of my workings

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It’s almost like everyone processes trauma/grief differently.

she's likely in shock. you'll never understand their reactions till it's you in their shoes

I think it's pretty natural for a parent to worry about their child first in any situation. She likely hasn't even processed what she's been told.

@@clarisajewell96 you girls need to recognise toxic femininity

If your grandparents live alone or they don't live in a safe area then everyone should at least get them a ring doorbell or minimal security system. It's really not that expensive and it's worth doing especially if they leave their doors unlocked or something like that. Such a minimal deterant might have been enough to keep Gavon from breaking in her home that night if he knew there were cameras but we will sadly never know.

I would be outraged to watch this

@@bmp3m I'm lucky that she lives with 2 of my uncles and has several cops on her block :)

He probably meant to say "Im not not-lying anymore"

@@thomaskg3802 That would have been worse

yea thats a liars way of trying to just get someone to listen to their lies more or change it to sound more believable lmao

Why was the mum's name "Chris" though and was she wearing an "Autism" T-Shirt or wtf was that?!

@@jinpingthebear110 Sometimes women are named Chris and sometimes t-shirts have the words "autism" printed on them. I don't understand how this is the part of this story that is incomprehensible to you lmao.

@@jinpingthebear110Chris is often short for Christine or Christina. Calmate.

@@jinpingthebear110Chris is a female name too. Autism is a medical condition. Many times shirts are made with Autism written on them for fundraisers and such.

@@CosmicMappingright? 😂

That really is not how justice should be done, a life-sentence would be too short.

​@@petermastenbroek7719"life sentence" is not equal to "life in prison". Law varies by state.

Complete BS!

Eligible doesn't mean that he will get out right after 25 y

@@jack1d1XB it is, because this is disgusting. I don't want anyone to think I was supporting him. But when you hear someone got a "life sentence" it doesn't automatically mean life in prison.

And very annoying

Someone's done their homework

Levelling is was what we call it

Mimicking his posture to show sympathy. Which comforted the suspect. Which may have been a factor in his admission and details.

​@Who_Dey420 it's even further than that, imo. He put himself at a lower, more vulnerable position than the suspect

Cus someone would never open himself if being cussed out and treathened. Also, creatures like him would like top noch experts to cooperate

i know seeing the dad crying was heartbreaking

I watched this while holding my 2 year old son as he naps😭 I cannot begin to imagine. He was once a little toddler in his mama's arms😢. How does that even happen!?

I'm 31 andy parents don't know wme at all 😂😂

I agree & disagree. They knew him & knew he was “different&disturbed” but not to what degree.

Seems like she never bothered or cared to know her son in the first place...welcome to modern parenting 101.

He's 17. You can't call him a psychopath.

@@ok-hz2ft ROFL why ?? You seem to be one of them... How can you say that ? POS...

​@ok-hz2ft ...you know... you're right! ...& your liberalism should be commended. I think you should volunteer to accommodate him when he's possibly released in 2043...he'll only be 42...could be a real nice buddy & housemate for you 👌💙 🫂

@@ok-hz2ft the moment hes 18 he can, i think the proof is in the pudding - hes clearly psychopathic and lacks the remaining time as a youth to be *potentially* rehabilitated

@@ok-hz2fta “budding” psychopath then

Well it's a good thing he's serving a life sentence then...

@@Saboteur4He’s only serving 25 years with a shot at parole

25 years is considered a life sentence.

@@at6062 thats not a life sentence

@@at6062 In this case, we prefer “the duration of a persons natural life”.

And her family having to live with that.

Agree with you completely, Isabella.

He was sentenced to life. Later a law changed that makes him able to apply for release after 25 years.

As well as taking somebodies life and wrecking their families life. He has wrecked his own families life as well. Mother Father and Siblings. He knows it was wrong and still went ahead with all of his stupid childish actions. No personnel responsibility. You can bring up your children as correctly as you can but this is one troubled individual. He spoke of an unwarranted sexual incident visited on himself when he was younger that needs further investigation as well.

He’s only concerned about costing his parents money and his consequences of going to court and screwing up his life not that he murdered a near centurion ? We need to teach respect and moral fortitude stronger and younger

When I heard he will be eligible for release in 2043 I almost died. I hope they deny it

You mean “that thing”. It is not a person.

@@Andrea-mn8vh very true excuse me

That's nothing, wait until you next decide to eat jam!

I'm thinking I don't want to hear it while I'm only half way through

Because why lie when he is indeed and infact an embarrassment?