I am looking to turn one of my semi's into a HDT So far I need something for brakes and 5th wheel. I think I found a fancy 5th wheel that swivels like a smaller RV hitch however I am interested in the air over hydraulic brakes. Any suggestions for a braking system?
I think somethings wrong with your rig if your getting 6-7mpg you should be at 9-10+mpg, I get 6-7 pulling 53ft tri-axle trailer grossing 104000lbs There’s guys doing 9+ pulling 80000lb tandem trailers
Trucking company owner here. You mention truck parts and service. Per parts you can buy parts from NAPA and O'Reilly and they do stock them and HDT specific is TruckPro and they all deliver for free. Per truck parts, some are cheaper than the pickup truck parts, if you buy the parts yourself and do your own work, like alternators, water pumps, a/c pumps, etc. Oil changes can be done for far less at truck stops vs truck dealers and even more so if you buy your oil on sale and do it yourself. The most expensive part of my oil changes is the use of Lucas oil additive. Your mpg should be better, unless getting too much drag from the bikes. A benefit of going older is no re-gen or def. Trucks can go well past the million mile mark even in commercial work before major work is done and then continue on. Per tires, you will age them out before you wear them out, although covering them can help slow the age process. Even on my work trucks I run used tires I buy from truck junk yards since in my work I do not run a lot of miles, but ruin the tires, so I save a lot getting tires from wrecked trucks, it is amazing how many almost new tires hit the junk yards. Back to truck repairs, search for a good mom/pop shop, can save you a bunch and often give a lot better experience, except you do not have a fancy drivers lounge to wait in.
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Yeah, but isn't it what's considered a dynamic engine brake? There's the resistance your engine provides by itself, and then there's the engine breaking provided by an exhaust brake, which I was under the impression is what a Jake brake is.
And not to insult, these trucks are designed to have a gross weight of 80k. Not 120k. I am a heavy hauler by trade. A 16 litter engine is your main reason you are not getting fuel mileage. For your next truck look into getting a mid roof truck with a 12-13 litter engine. Mine gets 13mpg at 1400 rpm 425hp and it runs great. Feel free to get with me if you want more info about getting the correct set up on your next truck.
Mits still a king ,in every way you cant get a better compromise drives smooth ,strong 50 tons capaçeti, so its a king dont try to compacte with . And when you a born on mother earth everyting cost money better drive a volvo truck.
44 quarts for an oil and filter change is pretty much standard no matter who makes the tractor.check your manual for factory recommendations, when I drove OTR it was a 73 Kenworth conventional 66 inch sleeper and had a 350 horse Cummins with a 10 speed. Biggest problem I had was every 8000 miles or so the water pump belt would loosen up and overheat. When it first happened I dug out my toolbox and tightened the belt several times until I finally bought some red tightened in a bottle the had no more problems with it. After i carried 8 gallons of oil and 8 gallons of antifreeze as I normally hauled a stainless tanker with up towards 7000 gallons of chemicals or oil. One trip I hauled 7000 gallons of 15-40 motor oil and after delivering I had 2700 gallons left after he signed for the entire load. Got on the phone and my 9th call struck pay dirt when the shop owner said he just ran out of oil not 10 minutes earlier. Paid me $2000 cash for the remainder I had left. At the tank wash the drained another 60 gallons out of the tank. Safe journey and drive safe.
well on the fuel mileage... every driver / condition is different.. my father is still driving OTR he get a average of 7.9 to 9.2 mpg full loaded refer load... he is licensed for 80 K gross... so your driving habits with your weight is very bad!!!
We ask people all the time what kind of mileage they get. 7.9 to 9.2 is the best we've ever heard. Congrats to him. Glad he's getting good mileage. Thanks for watching.
20k is no wgt for a hdt i had my trailer brakes fail going to shaky from pgh hauling 29k did a few mtns no trouble got brakes fixed in shaky the million mile philosophy is bull tmc sells beautiful trucks with1.5 mil on them rvers are not fully knowledgable about this i can tell by what they say BUT i wouldnt trust a pickup with my life btw f550 p/u will handle 21k fifth wheeling easy look at the video of chevy vs ford on ike thats a few thousand ft elevation you have the right to feel mentally safe but it aint the serious btw the fifth wheel that comes on the truck is fine most tractors are on air susp already i brought a hdt because i have 2,600,000 miles in driving them if you cant work on a truck your in the wrong place oil change at petro is about 150.00 nationwde you be hoodwinked ive never paid 600 for a tire ever btw ike is nickname for eisenhower on i70 it can separate the men from the boys go try donner/4th of july /cord alene/wolf creek /flag/just to name a few
I truly like the idea of an HDT over a 1 ton. I've owned an MDT and it was great, but an HDT seems much better. That said, unlike the two of you, those of us with kids comes the additional cost of converting the back sleeper area to bench seating with seat belts. The other issue, a smart car won't work for four, so now you're reliant on taking the HDT sightseeing vs a smaller vehicle. Not that it can't be done, but some places have NO parking for an HDT...
I heard no cons. Just difference. Parts last longer in HDT then Pickup, so price is stretched out longer in the HDT vs Pickup is all. The mileage per gallon difference is nothing In my mind.
Yes, but I think it is easier to find yourself in a jackknife situation with a 1 ton vs an HDT. Regular trailer brakes are set to "slow down" not a hard stop.
It's actually perfectly fair to discuss reality. There's more physics than just velocity to consider when stopping a combination vehicle. In a hard stop, the front of the trailer will dive, causing the rear of the pick-up to squat. This will unload the front end, causing a change in the steering geometry and, thus, handling. The effect is greatly reduced on the HDT. This isn't speculation. It's fact.
This isn't a big deal, but just to make sure you and your viewers understand a couple of things. A Jake brake is a type of engine brake. They are one and the same. Also, the trucks aren't designed to pull 120,000 lbs. The maximum legal weight a truck can carry (unless specially permitted) is 80,000 lb. But having driven a truck for most of my life, I am very intrigued with using a tractor to pull a fifth wheel. Sounds like a good idea. A few concerns such as being able to get into rv parks, and cost of repairs will kill you with the EGR. The company I work for has a whole army of mechanics to keep our trucks running, and it is a very expensive proposition when you have mechanical issues.
Melvin as a trucking company owner, trucks are designed for 120,000 lbs before you have to upgrade for even heavier loads, except perhaps the steer axle. While the legal limit is 80k, the truck it's self can handle far more weight. Above 120k then you must add axles, frame strength, etc. Out West and in MI the locals do run the 120k limit a lot and such why WOW has heard and noted that figure. Regardless the point is the truck was designed to handle the weight, when pickup trucks are often pushed beyond what they can handle.
@@forry100 I no longer drive a truck but am the central division transportation manager of our company. Our company has around 350 class 8 tractors, so out of curiosity I contacted our purchasing agent and asked him if the class 8 trucks are designed to pull 120,000 lbs without any special modifications. He said the specs just call for 80,000 lbs unless specifically designed for greater weight. We purchase all Volvo trucks. Just wanting to make sure I (and he) was correct, I contacted the fleet maintenance director of one of the largest carriers in the nation, and asked him the same question. I got the same answer. Unless truck is spec to handle the additional weight the standard is 80,000 lbs. His company primarily purchases Freightliners. You would recognize both the tractors my company operates and certainly the trucks from my buddy's company as both companies are nationwide. I know in the Detroit area trucks are used with multiple axles to accommodate the additional weight. Can't say that I've seen the same thing in California though. Not saying it doesn't happen, but that I haven't noticed or read anything about it in California. That being said you did get me to wondering and I appreciate that. Regardless, WOW is not going to have any pulling or stopping issues just pulling around a fifth wheel. I applaud them using a class 8 tractor as a good option provided they are comfortable driving it. Good discussion.
We have an older Mack, 2006. Mileage wise it gets 10mpg bob tailing and about 8 or so loaded. We carry 100g water and 200+ g diesel. No car yet. Trailer is 40' tri-axle ~18-20k. But the ride...nothing beats the air ride. We bought the trailer first, then went looking for a truck. We got 20k invested in truck not including bed (probably another 10k or so)..Couldn't touch a good pick up for that amount. We looked at used, looked at new. We have 7-9% grades locally. Air with Jake beats discs any day. I've seen 4 door jeeps on the back of a hdt and a full seat with seat belts across back. To each their own, we've owned class a's, travel trailers and truck campers. Nothing...absolutely NOTHING rides like a hdt. My knees, back and butt are very grateful. Having a sleeper with potty, microwave and fridge ain't bad either.
You said it all! Safety is number one. We have camped in our HDT too. Love it. There would be no other way for us to bring our Smart Car and the 2 Can-Am motorcycles. We didn't want to do a toy hauler because it would take up too much room in our "home". Thanks for watching. Don't miss part 2.
The biggest expense is the unknown and your life. Sudden stops are possible with an HDT, not a pickup towing something that weighs more than the tow vehicle. The rest is homework.
some of what you said is very true. but after spending the past 40 years in a rig. i can not see my self retiring into one. and yes a one ton can be a bit short on brakes. but that is a question of why one is pulling such a big trailer. stopping is far more important than the giddy-up. as to power and how long the drive train lasts, is really just a wash. a properly maintained gas motor can easily last 300K miles before it has worn out. lite duty diesels even longer, as to how much fuel you can carry. it might be better to ask how long can your bladder last. as gasoline is restricted to less than 50 gallon tanks (DOT thing). but a pu can easily carry more than enough gasoline / diesel fuel to get you through the whole day none stop. and all those mirrors are there to TRY and reduce the size of the blind spots. but you video is a good one gives people time to think about there needs and answers a couple questions. but when at a truck stop, ALWAYS give way to the drivers trying to earn a living as they are time restricted, in a rv you are not.
Enjoy the content guys. We just purchased a 42’ Riverstone legacy toy hauler to pack our full dresser Harley. Currently have a diesel F450. Really considering an HDT. Thanks for all you do. This information is gold!!!
I know this is a older comment so i dont know if yall will see it but your truck shouldnt be going through regens like it is. It is supposed to do it while your running down the road unless you are idiling it alot. If it is still doing it you might need to get the DPF filters professionally cleaned or replaced and if that doesnt work might need to get it looked at. I have way to much experience with that mess then i should after spending *WAY* to much money on exhaust aftertreatment repairs.
I have driven both gas and diesel trucks. Just down shifting gives significant speed retardation in the gasser. In the diesel, the compression is so high that the built up pressure on the top of the piston pushes it back down the cylinder with such force that it feels like there is no retardation at all. To overcome this, the Jake brake opens the exhaust valve when the piston is near the top of its travel. The sudden release of all that pressure is what makes all the noise when the Jake is used. An exhaust brake is a butterfly valve behind the exhaust manifold which gives a lot of back pressure during the exhaust stroke when it is activated. it is not as effective as the Jake but it is not as expensive and easier to maintain. A Jake is not the same thing as an exhaust brake. One is more simple. The other is more effective.
@@chillinit8544 A 2 year old HDT will cost you about 90-100k. A 2 year dually with a few luxuries (Lariat style and up) will cost you about 60-70k. But the durability and the amount of fixes and services will mount over the years in favor of the HDT. So unless Toyota will produce a big heavy duty new dually truck that will compare to the F-450, you will usually get less reliability from a pickup truck than from a Semi truck. Basically the gist is this - If you are hauling less than 18-20k pound 5th wheel, you can go with a dually. If you are going for a big boy 5th wheel like most of the HDT Rv`ers, the ones that are over 40 feet and 20k+ pounds - then an HDT is a better option for you.
Just finished Part 1 video. Was wondering if you have a hard time getting into tight campgrounds. Example: Disney’s Fort Wilderness? Have you been there? We’re you able to get your rig into your spot?
Have never been there. We actually have more problems with the tote swinging around than we do with the truck. We most always do a little homework before going into a campground by looking at it via Google Earth. If it looks too tight, we'll look for another place. That rarely happens. Many times I will email and send pic of our set up and ask if they have a site for us and will be able to make the turns. I think only one time we were turned down because they said our HDT weighed to much, although it weighs less than a motorhome. Go figure. Sometimes we have to park the truck else where because the site isn't long enough, but we don't use it while camping anyway.
Thanks for the quick reply. Just FYI . . . I threw Fort Wilderness into the discussion as it is probably my wife’s favorite campground on the planet! To her. . . “It’s Magical!” We’ve been there many times and I don’t recall ever seeing an HDT RV Hauler, but then again. . . I wasn’t really looking for one. While I’m very intrigued by the prospect of having an HDT RV hauler/5th wheel, there are a few things that are deal breakers. Not being able to get into Fort Wilderness is one of them. My wife would live there if she could! 😎
kenworth/int/volvo/dealers are almost like everywhere these days btw if you pay $300 fr an oil change they got you go to t/a truxstp or petro bpf $180 depending on region as far as parts i go o any cat dealer for parts i will never le my cat go it came out of a 2000 model i will switch it from glider to glider but it cant be beat it has almost 2mil miles on it and purrs like a kitten
Interesting question. The following information is the best of my knowledge reading information on the internet. So you can do your own research as well. First, we are registered as a Motorhome, therefore we do not go through weigh scales. Second, the tractor themselves are not part of the weight factor, as trucks have to supply materials and goods to all locations everywhere all throughout the year...it's what you're hauling that matters for weight (the semi trailer portion). However, trucks should slow down during frost. The load restriction is determined by the weight of the haul over each axle. RV's will not come close to the restricted weights.
That's because of fifth wheel campaign got enough ass to make that thing feel different I know movers and Scott big box sleepers and they got 40,000 sitting back on the tip of the truck and they don't feel it what are you talking about
If you are considering an HDT, you should consider going to an HDT rally. Lots of seminars and people that answer all your questions. Next one is the East Coast Rally in Tennessee in April. Just Google HDT Rally 2021
