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Part Two: Dr. Phil Is Even Worse Than You Think And You Probably Think He Suck | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined again by Jamie Loftus to continue to discuss Dr, Phil.
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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@packman2321 9 месяцев назад

The phrase "Tough love" is always a red flag for me in a medical context. I would go so far as to suggest that it is always just an excuse to justify violent management of people or at the very least to dismiss their experiences as not mattering because the person in power is 'doing it for [their] own good'. Flipping hideous that it still does the rounds in any discourse, let alone medicine, teaching and parenting.

@deefpaladin 9 месяцев назад

So much of Dr. Phil's actual advice is to just work hard even though you feel bad. It's so empty.

@user-kz8zr4si3i 9 месяцев назад

His entire show is just him getting cathartic jabs in on vulnerable people, dude is a shiny scalped parasite

@mattfox2716 9 месяцев назад

Tough love only works when you’re the one dispensing the love…..anyone notice that?

@bretthansen3739 8 месяцев назад

I'm not aware of any times "tough love" was wasn't just code for some kind of abuse or another. It sure was when I was getting that kind of "love".

@sodapopjones260 2 месяца назад

I think tough love is more about them getting to posture themselves than anything else.

@user-mi4du9rd1j 9 месяцев назад

Dr. Phil is Jordan Peterson for women. That's not a compliment to either of them, BTW.

@Topboxicle 9 месяцев назад

best summary of not-an-actual-doctor phil

@MediaMunkee 9 месяцев назад

I feel like, contrary to _all_ appearances nowadays, Peterson at least had a few valid points to make once upon a time, even if he didn't always draw a sensible origin or conclusion to those points. He was good for provoking actual thought as long as you didn't take his word as gospel. You know, before the trauma and the opiates and the coma managing to turn him into something approaching a living embodiment of the incel subreddit. Fuck everything Dr. Phil has ever done, though.

@user-mi4du9rd1j 9 месяцев назад

@@MediaMunkee Peterson statred as garbage and only got worse.

@AzureDragon158 9 месяцев назад

@@MediaMunkee Peterson was basically a cult leader when he taught at university. The man has always been awful.

@SgtKaneGunlock 9 месяцев назад

theres a reason I call Jordan Peterson "the Canadian Dr.Phil"

@miikro 9 месяцев назад

As someone working on a psych degree, making that abused woman relive her trauma in front of a live studio audience, to be broadcasted to millions is so utterly abhorrent. That had to be so deeply and needlessly traumatic for her. All just to publicly shame her husband... Which is actually a terrible way to make people change that often results in a doubling down of behavior.

@cf453 9 месяцев назад

That sounds like a Werner Erhard / EST thing too. I was hoping they had an episode on him.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

I don't think you need a degree to know that its bad....

@grmpEqweer 24 дня назад

I think I watched one episode, it was so awful. People who are struggling need compassion. But one has to also be compassionate to oneself by drawing clear boundaries with the struggling person? I say this as a mentally ill person who is very conscious that I can burn out my friends. I actively try to not be too needy, and to aggressively manage my crap.

@iivin4233 12 дней назад

I 100% agree that what Phil did there was itself abuse, coming from a "practicing expert" of that kind of behavior. It is legitimately news to me, though, that shaming someone who is doing awful things is bad idea. I can imagine scenarios where it would have bad consequences. However, should there not be a provision to publicly shame and strip of title and license someone like doctor Phil.

@rustkitty 8 месяцев назад

When he introduces that "troubled teen" he sounds like some carnival barker trying to sell us on a freak show, and I'm certain that's exactly what he had in mind. Despicable man...

@gailcbull 9 месяцев назад

Dr. Phil is the psychopath's idea of what a caring psychologist looks like.

@crossroadswanderer 9 месяцев назад

The audio clip of the guy who they got wasted was really heartbreaking. As fucked up as he was, he still obviously understood the situation he was in and felt mortified. It's such an evil thing to do to intentionally put someone in that situation.

@speed0spank 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, it was extremely uncomfortable. I had to fast forward through it and now I'm just thinking how someone orchestrated the whole thing for fun and profit.

@jenniferbrewer5370 9 месяцев назад

Phil McGraw has never even attempted to get licensed here in California because there is no way in hell the CA state medical board would license him.

@AutobotChick25 8 месяцев назад

There is something so pathetic about Dr Ph telling a child “Im your worst nightmare” in this context. Its not going to get the child to take him seriously and its very much engaging in a power struggle that plays into her unhealthy responses. Its just meant to seem tough to the audience- but there’s nothing tough about power struggling with a child.

@0okamino 4 месяца назад

To be fair, he's not wrong about being a nightmare. It's just not in the way he thinks he is. A mustachioed garbage heap like him shambling at me in my dreams would certainly have me in a cold sweat.

@eruption257 9 месяцев назад

It's worth mentioning that the infamous "STOP BEING POOR" picture of Paris Hilton was photoshopped - she was not, in fact, wearing that shirt, as much as she wasn't actually holding up a copy of Trout Mask Replica at a red carpet event for some reason (as much as I really really wanted her to).

@erf3176 9 месяцев назад

Dr. Phil sending kids to scared straight ranch deals he does business with (and the rehab places) reminded me of those two juvenile court judges from PA that were giving out harsh sentences to kids so they could get paid by the private detention centers. Not sure if they've made an episode of those two aholes. But one of them argued during sentencing that his years of public service should be taken into account for leniency... when clearly, the fact that he was in public service and violated that trust is what made his crime so F-ed up.

@justcommenting4981 9 месяцев назад

Yep.

@noxthemc7717 9 месяцев назад

That's wild on multiple levels

@aazhie 7 месяцев назад

It's chilling, and I hope those judges will lose their ability to work in justice. Disgusting behavior from them and Phil Dx

@DanHorn-sp5bf 5 месяцев назад

Y, there's a couple episodes on "cash for kids."

@ohnoagremlin 9 месяцев назад

the dude they dragged out on stage sounds exactly like someone trying to cope with being tricked and exploited. i know that's just projecting but what a garbage way to show someone

@AngryViking234 9 месяцев назад

Having recently listened to the episodes of Ben Shapiro's terrible book, hearing the phrase "Dr Phil uses sentences" is comparatively glowing praise.

@bretthansen3739 8 месяцев назад

I had a high school friend who got sent to one of those child abuse camps. I remember as a damaged young man dealing with trauma of my own wishing all sorts of horrors on the monsters that run those places. As a calmer, happier middle aged man, I still think they deserve just about any bad thing that could possibly happen to them. Child abuse was bad enough when my (very damaged) parents thought it was for my own good. For profit child abuse is a crime against humanity. I remember your article about this, by the way. I really appreciated seeing a major site get that info out. Thank you.

@jcspoon573 24 дня назад

Marine Corps bootcamp seems to me to be calmer, less traumatic, and rewards you with pay, benefits, and a life path. But I can't really compare, I only ever went to Parris Island, not one of those camps.

@bretthansen3739 24 дня назад

@@jcspoon573 At least the people running actual boot camps are professionals with a goal of creating an effective fighting force (I've heard that conditioning can do some damage, but it's a calculated choice). These "boot camps" are just run by whoever will answer an ad for a job where they get to abuse kids.

@Chaosqueenngami 4 месяца назад

This just confirms that it makes sense to be leery of anyone who is friends with Opera and Dr Phil.

@woodencoyote4372 7 месяцев назад

In that clip with the teen, Dr. Phil sounds like a carnival barker outside a freak show tent

@stephenmerriman5620 9 месяцев назад

I have life long depression, I have spent a lot of time in hospitals, I see this as nothing more than how Victorians tours of Bedlam to be entertained by the inmates. I had that experience, of people moving away or flinching when they saw me. This man angers me so much, but then again he is just a bastard, shame the ball didn’t hit the shit head harder. Love your podcast x

@yourlocalnerd7788 9 месяцев назад

Ah yes the life law of victim blaming

@lynnhathaway3755 5 месяцев назад

Dr. Phil and daytime tv is the new Colluseum. The crowds cheer, boo, and clap while dignity dies.

@Brandon-rt4pp 9 месяцев назад

Dr. Phil is somehow worse than the MadTV version of Dr. Phil

@notoriouswhitemoth 9 месяцев назад

I, sheltered as I am, was able to intuit from context that "catch me outside" meant _step outside with me, where there's room to move and no audience, so we can fight,_ and yet a man who claims to have been homeless acted confused by it.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

What a stupid line of reasoning....

@LittleMy. 9 месяцев назад

Turnabout Ranch and other troubled teen places could have their own episodes

@billmozart7288 2 месяца назад

I think my favorite Dr. Phil segment was when he had the Bum Fights guy on, and he came out dressed like Dr Phil, mustache and everything, and when Phil tries to do his usual shtick, Ty Beeson says to Dr Phil's face "what I'm doing is no different from what you do" and Phil threw Ty off the show.

@iivin4233 12 дней назад

Simultaneously the hero we deserve and need.

@deefpaladin 9 месяцев назад

Phil is not doing therapy, in the same way that a snake oil salesman is not selling medicine.

@noxthemc7717 9 месяцев назад

"Or pooping or whatever." How does he know?

@mattgilbert7347 9 месяцев назад

"He suck, think I" -Yoda

@TheAdarkerglow 9 месяцев назад

You've got to give him credit, he's recognized that he's got a great mustache and looks stupid without one, and kept it up for decades. I think.

@kevinroberts3344 9 месяцев назад

Literally JUST finished part one, and subscribed.

@kalenluck 9 месяцев назад

Welcome

@kalenluck 9 месяцев назад

May I suggest the Jordan Peterson episodes for another modern bastard and L.Ron Hubbard for an older one

@russelljackson2818 9 месяцев назад

L Ron Hubbard summoning the antichrist, John Harvey Kellogg, and the Ben Shapiro book reading are good palette cleaners after this if you need something funnier.

@ncb1236 8 месяцев назад

It's funny that he would say people do what works, but would then coin the phrase, how's that working for you

@VildhjartaFanGurl 9 месяцев назад

Skink on a hot rock had me rolling 😂

@loorthedarkelf8353 8 месяцев назад

49:34 Paris Hilton appears to be in the blast radius of her bastard father. Makes ya wonder if she took the role as Amber Sweet in Repo! The Genetic Opera because she felt sympathetic to the character of a daughter who was given everything but what she wanted; because you can't fill the hole a neglectful parent leaves with money, fame, or gifts.

@TSmith-yy3cc 4 месяца назад

Well, at least Oprah learned her lesson about problematic besties...

@0okamino 4 месяца назад

Thank goodness for that. Now we can all live happily ever after.

@abg5381 9 месяцев назад

Yo the paris hilton 'Stop being poor' thing is BS photoshop job, her actual shirt said stop being desperate

@robertmccarthy2254 5 месяцев назад

Arcadia itself is shady as hell

@aviendha1154 8 месяцев назад

My mother did that to me when I was 10. She just decided I was a monster incapable of love.

@josequins9099 6 месяцев назад

Sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing okay.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

Did what? you gave zero context...

@aviendha1154 3 месяца назад

@@chase5298 did you stop reading after the first sentence, I described that she did literally in the next sentence.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

what is "that"@@aviendha1154

@ethos5 8 месяцев назад

If you've never looked into universal health services (UHS, and not to be confused with United Health Services), I highly recommend doing so. Several facilities shut down, plenty of institutionalized abuse (I remember spending several hours one shift trying to find basic hygiene supplies for my patients so they could shower, because there "wasn't the budget for them"), escaped patients because management didn't want to pay for locks that work, etc etc. And again, this wasn't just one facility. Arbor HRI in Mass was one of theirs

@fett01 9 месяцев назад

I knew it was going to be bad, I didn't think it was going to get that dark

@Wendy_O._Koopa 9 месяцев назад

My cat walked across my keyboard, so it went back to the part where he says "Now all of that is pretty bad, right? Well it gets so much worse," or something like that. And I was all holy-son-of-a-what-the-Hell, how many more times is this thing going to escalate? But then it sounded familiar, and I was like, oh okay, it's just the normal levels of over-the-top fucked up.

@DexDavican 9 месяцев назад

Man, this episode brought back some bad memories of working in a crappy residential treatment facility.

@stephenmerriman5620 9 месяцев назад

I was made sick when I saw he exploited Sinead O’Connor, O couldn’t watch it, I don’t know why she would have gone anywhere near this tormenting bastard.

@josephbrown7762 9 месяцев назад

I find myself disgusted alot with the people you discuss on this show but this one hit a bit personally....It took me and another fellow 6 foot tall man 4 hours to loosen up a stump using axes, sledge hammers, and spikes enough to where a FUCKING TRACTOR could finally pull the bastard out. Whoever made a teenage girl do that on her own deserves types of punishment I don't want to vocalize. Just pure evil.

@justanjustan9624 4 месяца назад

💯

@Locke_the_cat 9 месяцев назад

does robert evans set up ad pivots in casual conversation

@akumakorgar 9 месяцев назад

26:40 - Uhhh unless you're a Ninja Turtle? Geez Robert

@kyleshelton5734 3 месяца назад

Should have ended with the bum-fights guy and the guy who decided he was an alien robot because they are both so funny. Big Joel has a pretty good video about the robot guy.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

what?

@Khandrake 9 месяцев назад

i also need to leave now

@lemonscented7703 8 месяцев назад

56:05 between Dr Phil and Vince McMahon and also ofc orange man, why are so many famous terrible people lionized even further in memes like all the time?

@jescon87 9 месяцев назад

Plot twist, Robert is a bastard too lol

@VooshSpokesman 4 месяца назад

Love from a Xanderhal and Vaush fan!

@ronaldswanson8405 5 месяцев назад

Does someone throw up into the mic at 5:33?

@redjirachi1 26 дней назад

21:57-So what you're saying is that there's something wrong with humanity

@Shadowman4710 18 дней назад

A reasonable conclusion.

@vfanon 15 дней назад

@@Shadowman4710The only one, honestly

@raycearcher5794 9 месяцев назад

The problem with Dr. Phil is that his approach of "yell at stupid people until they agree to shape up" supposes you are dealing with a rational person who is willing and able to understand your argument and change their behavior. No genuine nut is going to benefit from it.

@kris6038 Месяц назад

The point is to make money, not help people. Yelling at someone and blaming them for their problems gives the audience someone to jeer at, and the audience will keep watching if they keep jeering.

@ZorroinArkham 5 месяцев назад

The "no blaming" advice at 12:24 is from Buddhism, don't get angry at Dr Phil for quoting the oldest rich kid con artist in history.

@chase5298 3 месяца назад

alright pal why don't you crawl back to 4chan

@daniellundberg2875 9 месяцев назад

Seriously though, aren't all children little psychopaths?

@gapsule2326 9 месяцев назад

No.

@W_adama 7 месяцев назад

Your 'funny' commentary and lame-ass side jokes really take away from the meat of the story, which I wanted to hear with earnest. Every time you feel like adding a comment that is dripping with sarcasm, it rips me out of paying attention to the only thing that is actually keeping me listening.

@DanHorn-sp5bf 5 месяцев назад

What a bummer that no other podcasts exist. It seems a flexible platform rife for explosive growth.