Persona 3 FES & Portable Have Never Been This Good 

Geez, a "Persona 3 Perfect" that merges both FES and Portable to be something more definitive was something I was thinking about when watching this video! A ground up remake of FES with stuff from Portable like the female protagonist would be something awesome!

It's because persona 3 is the least favorite game in the whole series. Atlus probably doesn't think 3 is going to sell well. That's not what I think but hopefully we can surprise them that persona has a fan base

@@austematicthatragic4352 Atlus/Sega are just quite dumb. I mean, look how they market their next game "Soul Hackers 2". There is nearly zero western marketing and the game will be out in 1 month + 1 week. They concentrate a lot on the Japanese marketing, but there is no Switch version lol.

@@TommyDeonauthsArchives and cutscenes from the anime and remade music

Yeah I wanted a portable fes combo

I shake your hand with my bloody hand

ahhh, space patrol luluco enjoyer, based

I was going to like this, but the likes were at 420. i just cant bring myself to do it

You're cringe get a life

Thank you and the team so much for this!

I feel like it idavertently makes the game easier, which is the only unfortunate part

Yeah, this is very important to note. P3P's in a weird place, where I 100% prefer playing with manually controlled party members, but when you do, it becomes very clear the original game wasn't designed around it. Extra things like the Skill Cards can also make P3 as a whole seem easier than it really was originally.

There are many more important mechanics that Persona 3 portable differ from FES. Main character can no longer equip any weapon but is forced to use 1h swords or Naginatas depending on gender. Mitsuru gets rapiers to differentiate from MC. This obviously makes most good weapons, most notably ultimate weapons and some unique fused weapons, unusable by MC. Once more also works differently with skills that hit all enemies. In Fes all party members or enemies have to be weak to attack to give once more, in P3P only 1 character is enough. For example if your party is hit by Maragidyne when you have Mitsuru (who is weak to agi) in it, in P3P enemy gets once more but in FES they will not get extra turn. Also getting up from knocked down status doesn't take a turn in P3P, making it harder to get stunlocked by enemies and stunlocking enemies by yourself. I feel like all these changes have bigger effect than controllable party members. Then again, I never had a problem with the party members AI, like I used Mitsuru but she used Marin Karin like once during the entire game. You'll always want to scan enemy to upgrade your party AI even if scanning reveals no information. You also never want to have AI on the default Act Freely since that makes party use moves on random. Many players straight up refuse to interact with the AI system or don't take full advantage of it which annoys me to no end when these players bash the system they don't fully understand.

@@Newageretronoob Correction: Act Freely does not lead to characters using moves at random. Each character has an affinity for different skill types and, if put on AF, they will default to those skills if they do not know the enemy's affinities eg. Junpei with usually use physical attacks, Ken/Koro will prioritise Hama/Mudo, Mitsuru will focus on ailments etc. They will readjust once the enemy is analysed but it's usually better to put them on Full Assault anyway because that's when they focus on their heavy-hitters, and after the scans, Knock Down, because PMs will mainly default to party-wide skills and, considering the aforementioned knockdown mechanics, this can be a waste of a turn. It's so frustrating how often P3's combat is written off, it's a very nicely-designed system.

So wait the reason the AI version was bashed so hard was because people forgot the scan function and AI settings?

The creator of the TrueHD mod for P3P has stated that they would port their mod to the PC version, if possible, as they are dissatisfied with Atlus' official upscale. None of the work is going to be wasted.

The Persona 3 FES mods have existed for a while before now, Aemulus even longer.

The brilliance now though is that playing modded 3 FES on a Steam Deck is an ideal way to play the game. The PS2 graphics with the HD texture pack look surprisingly good on that small screen.

The modder said the hardest game they modded is Persona 3 fes not Portable which is not on PC anyway so he didn't lost that much

hd mods for both games have existed for a long time now

I think they have that in mind, which this year's P-Sound hints at. I do think the rerelease of P3P is mainly to give the player an extra opinion, like if they don't want to play the remake, they can just play what Atlus thinks is the best way to play the original, much like how if you don't want to play Final Fantasy VII Remake and would rather play the original, it's available on the Switch and Steam. I think that's what Atlus' approach with this.

Don't forget skill cards from p3p and fusion spells from p3fes

I thought of maybe a remake that take the original main story with makoto yuki. Can take anime cutscenes from anime or something. Add some more stuff to the game Also the title. Maybe called P3LIVE or P3 reboot

Controlling party members is awful in P3, it goes against the main theme of the game. It's no Persona 4 or 5. The female route is garbage as it is written for a male character still and doesn't take into account how women/girls are treated and addressed in Japan. It adds nothing. There's no good in P3Portable which is a fully garbage release.

@@FuzzyDlop The direct commands is actually optionable, as in you don't have to switch to it and just play the game as if it's FES, as you can do in EVERY Persona game since 3. Also, one interesting thing is the option to play as either a male or a female protagonist was actually an idea for the original game. So, the plot was written with that idea in mind. But, you don't have to play as the female protagonist and like it if you don't want to. There's aways the male protagonist in P3P, which is pretty much like FES.

I bet it'll happen in 9-10 years

The female route is garbage as it is written for a male character still and doesn't take into account how women/girls are treated and addressed in Japan. It adds nothing. It's possibly the single worst addition to a Persona game ever.

@@FuzzyDlop ... Huh? Pretty much all the social links for the female protagonist are different. Characters DO interact with the female protagonist differently. What are you on about?

@@Omar_Al_Seddik The main story isn't well written for her though, which is a valid point imo

@@FuzzyDlop na how is that the worst addition to a persona game ever? your trolling or your high or something it is not even close to being the worst addition to the persona series

P3 FES has no faults.

This is the way. Using Dancing's models it could be very easily achieve the look of P5 on that regard, but then the problem would be all the locations. Even then, Atlus is very lazy sometimes so I have no hopes on anything official

@@FuzzyDlop It has a shitton of faults, what are you talking about xDD You can get softlocked for not knowing how high level you should be. I had to restart 15 hours in due to it. I had no way of beating the boss as i did the same thing i did in P4. Level up personas, make new personas, level up in general, level up social links, all in a balanced manner. Still was fucked.

You know, and when I got Dancing All Night, that's what I thought it was. A resource dump. An excuse to make alllll the resources ahead of time.

Junpei's "dance" wasn't even a dance, it was just his old aniamtions

...you did watch the video right?

@@LostSoulSilver They will never be able to port FEMC to FES (or it will take forever if so)

it's like 87% complete and you can currently download it it looks real nice!

That artwork was actually included in the artbook for the game. That's where they've pulled the high quality version from

Not just the UI. The whole assets. I want Thanatos out of the ps2 limitations.

thanatos was in p5/r

@@dniwetamp ah I didn't know that. I thought they only took Messiah/Orpheus for the dlc

We don't need a remake now. We need a persona 1 and 2 remake.

If you still can’t get into FES, play P3P as FeMC. It has some huge QOL improvements that make it much more fun to play IMO.

All the stuff in Portable is garbage and would ruin the masterpiece P3 FES is. Althought it already did that just by existing. The female MC is garbage and written for a male MC. It adds nothing. Combat system in P3P is garbage too.

Fuzzy uh oh someone’s angy

@@FuzzyDlop sheesh talk about being childish, grow up will you?

The only thing that might be a problem is that the game might become too complex yet at the same time too easy? Being able to use all types of weapons, having elemental weapons through weapon fusion and fusion spells, all of these mechanics mixed with skill cards controllable party members and other mechanics from portable might make the game overly easy due to the easy access to a lot of op items and abilities, i mean just with a random nihil weapon and a strength persona you can get a weapon that gives Auto-tarukaja, and the four main elemental ones give boost to their respective elements so you just need a 2° tier elemental increasing damage ring, and you 2 slot spaces you would use with an amp and an bossy skill being used for other things, and some fusion spells like Armageddon are pretty op, even Jack Bros is good. And don't forget the fact there will have 3 physical attributes.

It doesn't mean we'll get Persona 6 faster as Atlus doesn't have teams to make remasters or whatnot and they don't stop entire teams working on new games to remaster old ones. The only way they could remaster Nocturne was by taking two handful of SMT developers who were working on SMT 5 and making them "remaster" Nocturne when SMT 5 was close to being finished already. The result was a Nocturne remaster that wasn't a remaster at all. It's the cheapest and laziest thing ever sold at full price. But SMT 5 was never delayed and came out when it was supposed to.

We as individuals are free to demand better, but an outfit like GoodVibesGaming is obliged to make an effort stay in the good graces of the publishers of the games they cover. Jon might not have been so quick to sugarcoat it if he had been a solo RU-vidr (but we'll never know for sure.)

@@StevenUlyssesPerhero I don't understand how not sending the message that we shouldn't ask more of big companies is something that would put them in the bad graces of any company... it's like if every negative review from every outlet needed to end with "but we still think they did a swell job!" To be clear, this is a very different thing than condoning harassment.

@@timrattray companies can be pretty fickle. Even something as minor as suggesting they do better can put you in a bad perspective. They just won't tell you that you're on their list. It really depends on the company.

@@CRAgamer This pretty rarely happens. I used to work in the industry.

Yorokobe

YES!!!

Ew

Meanwhile Persona 1, both parts of 2, the rhythm games, and the Q games are a bit stuck.

@@naliboi93 Does not matter if rhythm games are ported or not, but I wish Persona 1 and 2 was released with better gameplay 😕

It's not a remaster, they're too lazy and cheap to even remaster it. P4 is not a remaster either on PC.

Fuzzy by definition it is a remaster

Thank you.

P3P is garbage and by far the worst release in Atlus's history. It's an insult to Persona 3 and its fans. Everything about P3 FES is superior as that is the TRUE Persona 3. Portable is a much easier and casual version that ruins the essence and core theme of trust of Persona 3 by letting you control party members like every person incapable of playing a hardcore JRPG would want to. Clicking on stills like a straight up visual novel, instead of being immersed in japanese locations(which is the point of playing a Persona game) is awful and ridiculous. You didn't not play P3 with P3P. It's a garbage game that has nothing to do with it.

@@FuzzyDlop oh yeah sure, but I actually played P3FES, not P3. So that counts, right? Oh yeah and I trusted Mitsuru not to break into her stupid Marin Karin fits, but each and every single time she did and never stopped frustrating the shit out of me. Much like the pre-P4 turn mechanics. The "trust in AI" thing would've worked out great if it didn't make me feel like a cripple in the second half of the game where I would need to bend down to the whims of my AI partners and there's a good reason it became optional in P4 and P5. Because at some point it stops working right. I would much rather NOT waste time scanning each and every enemy I see and actually utilize my party members at their best I can manage.

I hope, but I do not believe.

did you enjoy it?

Multiple locations have been added since then, and they got shops and stuff working too on the overworld

this is already a mod for FES!

@@light5315 Oh! I did not know that was already a mod. Thanks for letting me know.

Great character but literally all she does in battle is spam a spell that never works...