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Personal Protection: .30 Super Carry Evaluation 

Paul Harrell
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Paul tests out the new 30 super carry caliber for personal protection and concealed carry.
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Комментарии : 3 тыс.   
@timrobinson6573
@timrobinson6573 2 года назад
Back in my day all we needed was a powder horn and a 67 caliber musket ball. You whippersnappers with your self contained cartridges.
@tombrown4683
@tombrown4683 2 года назад
Ahhh, Ha Ha Ha ! Good one !
@johnsmith-sp6yl
@johnsmith-sp6yl 2 года назад
back in ugthug's day we throw objects at enemy ourselves. no fancy fire magic, just strong arm of ugthug.
@NickFrom1228
@NickFrom1228 2 года назад
Back in my day we didn't have those fancy gun things. We jumped onto the back of our game with a knife in our teeth and killed it like a man. 😀
@DaveL9170
@DaveL9170 2 года назад
@@NickFrom1228 bow and arrow. Sharpened stick.
@murphy4yt
@murphy4yt 2 года назад
Yeah, those suppository guns will never catch on.
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 2 года назад
1:53 Bullet size comparison 9:13 Chronograph results 14:16 Meat target 19:22 Recoil 21:08 30 Super Carry detailed discussion 24:26 "Long winded discussion" Hard to overstate how much I love this channel. It's just so well done! So carefully thought out, clearly presented, beginner friendly and above all useful.
@fejea5685
@fejea5685 2 года назад
God bless
@donovanchilton5817
@donovanchilton5817 2 года назад
You da man
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 2 года назад
@@donovanchilton5817 You're a delightful soul yourself.
@Okun240
@Okun240 2 года назад
You can watch the whole thing? Congrats.
@MerchantMonk
@MerchantMonk 2 года назад
Ya freaking legend you!!
@rileykatt1179
@rileykatt1179 2 года назад
Paul Harrell probably could be considered as the Mythbuster of the firearms world. He takes REAL life guns and ammunition against a realistic ballistic test target. Thank you, Paul
@murrismiller2312
@murrismiller2312 Год назад
Yup
@DrBlues76
@DrBlues76 2 года назад
I'm going to be real, I don't even own a gun. I just love this channel. Paul is like the Bob Ross of gun and ammo tutorials. I don't paint either but I watch Bob Ross. Also, I love the scenery in these videos. Keep up the great work Paul!
@sinisterthoughts2896
@sinisterthoughts2896 2 года назад
That's definitely a bot. But happy to hear you are enjoying his content.
@johnsmith-sp6yl
@johnsmith-sp6yl 2 года назад
get a gun if you can they're really cool.
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 2 года назад
Better get a gun. They are fun.
@minnesotanice369
@minnesotanice369 2 года назад
🙄
@bobgordon1754
@bobgordon1754 2 года назад
Please sir, go get yourself a firearm. Our world is going downhill like a runaway train. YOU SERIOUSLY NEED A GUN.
@rayzistlibertarian9388
@rayzistlibertarian9388 2 года назад
I still laugh every time the pop tarts ad pops up. Brilliant.
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 2 года назад
Explaining the meat target is a total tongue twister, yet Paul says it super smooth. Lesson is always wear a T shirt
@TheWolfsnack
@TheWolfsnack 2 года назад
....because the back of the T-shirt usually will stop a bullet....?
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
@@TheWolfsnack on expanding rounds.
@oldmanmarkpapaclansuperior9548
@oldmanmarkpapaclansuperior9548 2 года назад
That's why I wear my t-shirt backwards.
@TheSteve1175
@TheSteve1175 2 года назад
LOL🤣👍
@imthatguy1878
@imthatguy1878 2 года назад
@@oldmanmarkpapaclansuperior9548 you sir are a genius, that's cheaper than level 4 plates
@BlankPicketSign
@BlankPicketSign 2 года назад
I'm always for giving people choice, I hope that .30SC does well, finds a happy home, and provides excellent service to people needing self defense! At the end of the day... I DON'T WANNA BE HIT by any of the shown calibers. So here's to wishing this new kid on the block the best chance at a future!
@Mackedo5
@Mackedo5 Год назад
That's how I've always felt about calibers like .357 Sig or .327 Magnum. If it works for you, God bless you man, variety is one of the things that makes firearms so wonderful
@chriswarren1618
@chriswarren1618 2 года назад
As an engineer with a strong Scientific background , I understand the importance of correct analysis and comparison. Most sources comparisons are crap, cos they dont follow the set rules. Yours are refreshingly Great. I love your presentations. Keep up the brilliant work, Paul.
@samcoon6699
@samcoon6699 2 года назад
You're an engineer and you can't spell "because" ?
@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093
@@samcoon6699 Not to mention the lack of understand as to when to capitalize words.
@jstefa2
@jstefa2 Год назад
us engineers are good with numbers not words :P
@bilbo_gamers6417
@bilbo_gamers6417 Год назад
Yep. So often you get lost in a sea of confusion where all you have is messy data and you have no clue or inkling as how to piece it together. Paul does an excellent job. His videos are so organized and methodical. You don't even notice how good he is until you try and do your own testing lol.
@crevecouer6772
@crevecouer6772 10 месяцев назад
Lighten up Francis.
@burnyburnoutze2nd
@burnyburnoutze2nd 2 года назад
The "back in MY day!" faction needs to make more appearances; the what if brigade has had it's day lol
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 2 года назад
Even if they double in appearances, it will still only be 2. - Veteran of the twice nothing platoon
@SuperBoyboys
@SuperBoyboys 2 года назад
The "Back in MY Day Group" vs the "What If Brigade", I'd pay to watch that firefight unfold.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 2 года назад
The "back in MY day" group is overrepresented honestly, their opinions are nearly worthless.
@burnyburnoutze2nd
@burnyburnoutze2nd 2 года назад
@@ostiariusalpha not on paul's channel lmao
@Tuberuser187
@Tuberuser187 2 года назад
I think they are the flip sides of the same coin, same motive with different tactics. They just want to try and use what they think is a logical arguments to support whatever bias, buyers regret or delusions and just approach it differently.
@Broney-tw3vy
@Broney-tw3vy 2 года назад
Gun owners: When is this ammo crunch going to end? Manufacturers: Hey look! We made a whole new cartridge!
@AmericanWorker1127
@AmericanWorker1127 2 года назад
seriously...wtf..!?!?
@joquin4618
@joquin4618 2 года назад
I know right!
@harrymallory7963
@harrymallory7963 2 года назад
Exactly.
@arcticfox6808
@arcticfox6808 2 года назад
Some bully in the boardroom pushing dumb ideas.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 2 года назад
See also, 270 wsm and 6.8 western. Proof that planned obsolescence isn't limited to silicon chip commodities.
@emwutube
@emwutube 4 месяца назад
Hi Paul, I'm so sorry to hear about your health. I've learned so much from your videos and your outstanding presentation style not to mention how to build your new and improved backstop! 🙂 I can't count how many of your videos I've watched over the years. These have been on platforms and calibers I own and shoot as well as ones I just wanted to learn more about. I shoot .357 Sig and I can tell you hands down that you have given the best information on those rounds out there. I used your AR-15 sight in video to help teach my son how to sight in his AR platform. If it's on RU-vid and jives with what your father is telling you then it's legitimate apparently. I hope all your videos stay up so I can watch them time and time again to enjoy as well as to refresh my memory and give me a smile. Best wishes to you. You and your family are in my prayers.
@Rowrin
@Rowrin 2 года назад
I'm actually kinda curious how this will do in countries that restrict civilian handguns to calibers .32 and smaller and what not.
@andrewhenley2161
@andrewhenley2161 2 года назад
That... is an angle/niche I had not considered. Also some countries restrict you to non military calibers.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 2 года назад
@@andrewhenley2161 I've even seen laws on the books that speak to restrictions based on SAAMI pressure specs
@will9357
@will9357 2 года назад
That's a really good point.
@jstefa2
@jstefa2 2 года назад
@@andrewhenley2161 the only choice i ahve is .32 .25 or .22lr... this round is a gamechanger for alot of european countries. and i think thats what they are targeting.
@TheTyrial86
@TheTyrial86 2 года назад
@@jstefa2 their doing that and than some. The amount of rounds being fit into a magazine, is getting attention of people like me. I have been waiting for a small handgun in the subcompact realm that has higher capacity. I was considering some beretta's In .32acp, before the p365 capacity.
@peterk8909
@peterk8909 2 года назад
"Their definition of high terminal performance is different from mine" You're too kind, Paul.
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 2 года назад
"They are definition?" Do you really struggle that much with basic English grammar?
@peterk8909
@peterk8909 2 года назад
@@slappy8941 Even I make a mistake. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
@BU1Lander
@BU1Lander 2 года назад
@@slappy8941 Do you struggle with English grammar that much? "Their", the possessive form of the pronoun They. "They're" contraction of They and Are. "Their (meaning Remington's) definition". Sounds right to me. Make sure that YOU are not wrong when you are trying to correct someone.
@MelodusDethicus
@MelodusDethicus 2 года назад
@@BU1Lander They broke up the "They're" mistake from OP by making it a point to phrase out the separate words so that the error can be apparent.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 2 года назад
Unless someone can convince me otherwise, Remington's HTP line is the green and white box ammunition in a different box. Going from brass cases to nickel plated cases is not a real change.
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 2 года назад
Good point about .45 LC. I lived most of my life in the Midwest, but have family in the Southwest. When I was in New Mexico visiting family, I found myself in a gun store, and one of the salesmen asked if he could help me with anything. Well, I was thinking of getting a 1911 pistol in .45 caliber, and blurted out "Colt ... forty-five" as my brain wasn't fully engaged. The salesman asked "what _kind_ of Colt .45" and I thought "that's a dumb question!" I had the image of a .45 caliber 1911 in my head, and couldn't figure out how the other guy didn't. And then I remembered where I was. I had no idea that cowboy shooting had become as popular as it was, or that new copies of the old Single Action Army were flying off the shelves there. They sure weren't where I lived. Live and learn.
@jameshickok2349
@jameshickok2349 2 года назад
The Old West/Wild West style shooting groups (multiple groups) and associated weapons have been hot for the past 30 years. Probably longer. I live in the Midwest and noticed it in the 1990's for sure. I've had people tell me Ohio is the Midwest but I say BS...Ohio is in the Eastern Time Zone. Iowa is Midwest.
@robertbates6057
@robertbates6057 2 года назад
Actually, .45 Long Colt is a pretty good performer. It's got juice lol. I personally like revolvers with adjustable sights though.
@peternorton5648
@peternorton5648 2 года назад
@@chickenduckdog7281 I saw a plain Jane Colt SAA in .45LC the other day brand new in a pawn shop going for $2995.00.
@chipsterb4946
@chipsterb4946 2 года назад
@@robertbates6057 yes but in a lever action rifle, 45 Long Colt can be loaded to very good performance for a pistol cartridge.
@OfficialFedHater
@OfficialFedHater 2 года назад
Cowboy actions are fun af tbh, I get why it's getting popular. Particularly I like the .22 variants of cowboy action guns because you can get the fun with cheaper ammo.
@clicco11
@clicco11 Год назад
I love how all of his videos appear to be made in the early to mid 2000s, even when they were just made
@RoBaDoB143
@RoBaDoB143 2 года назад
I've never seen this guys before, but dammit he's awesome.
@foofyguy
@foofyguy 2 года назад
Back in my day, black powder and a .36 ball got the job done. 😁
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
Back in my day we had to use bows and arrows and WE LIKED IT! 😂
@mikem2132
@mikem2132 2 года назад
Back in my day, we had sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
@somebloke3869
@somebloke3869 2 года назад
Back in my day we just had sticks. But we had some clever fella's that could get their thrown stick to come back.
@culloden23
@culloden23 2 года назад
Back in my day we used harsh language and yo momma jokes
@stevepalincsar4273
@stevepalincsar4273 2 года назад
It still does.
@pravoslavn
@pravoslavn 2 года назад
I wish my high school algebra teacher had been as good a communicator as Mr. Harrell... maybe I would have done better in life with math. Another excellent one, Mr. P.H. I think you are the Gold Standard of firearm teachers today,. Keep up the good work, Sir !
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
My algebra teacher wasn’t bad but my geometry teacher was horrible.
@jcarne1015
@jcarne1015 2 года назад
Agreed in all respects!
@tombrown4683
@tombrown4683 2 года назад
pravoslavnik, gold, platinum & diamond standard presenter we have been somehow blessed with !!
@artkoinis607
@artkoinis607 2 года назад
Yep. Mr H does the recon and goes the extra mile. Even I can see this experience and am happy to follow his lead. It is important to me that I know how I am wrong.
@seanoneil277
@seanoneil277 2 года назад
It's almost bottom of the barrel for where teachers are placed, the mid-level maths -- at least in public schools I went to in the 70s. Poor math students. None got Mr Harrell.
@maxcactus7
@maxcactus7 2 года назад
28:36 - The look on Paul's face is PRICELESS!! And I'm LMAO at the idea of those three calibers being obsolete by the end of the century as well. The .45 Colt will be 150 years old next year and it ROCKS!!
@DCavalcade
@DCavalcade Год назад
I’m really grateful for your videos, Mr Harrell. I’ve selected a 380 platform for my personal defense needs primarily because of its containment within the meat target. I know there are more powerful choices, including the 30 Super Carry, but I’m not on a battlefield. So I’ve elected to do my best to protect against over-penetration. Thanks for all your work.
@re-nz3sk
@re-nz3sk 11 месяцев назад
I don't know... I might hold off until they come out with the 30 super duper deluxe carry
@richardkev3077
@richardkev3077 2 года назад
A few decades ago, my brother bought a Grizzly WinMag in .45 Winchester Magnum. He swore that his semi-auto was superior in every way to my revolver, and that the .45 WinMag would replace the .44 Mag by the turn of the century. Although the .44 Mag is no longer even close to being king of the POWER hill, it is still very popular, while the .45 WinMag is just an interesting footnote.
@SonOfTheDawn515
@SonOfTheDawn515 2 года назад
First I've heard of that cartridge
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 2 года назад
I remember splash and fast disappearance of the Griz 45 Win Mag. It had several big strikes against it. First was the over-sized 1911ish handgun so it was heavy and you needed huge paws to grip it. Second, was the much higher price for this one of a kind pistol. Third, as the saying going it was a solution looking for a problem. It wasn't THAT much more powerful as a 6" .44 Mag revolver. Also, around that time handloaders with Ruger Blackhawks in .45 Colt figured out they could beat .44 Mag power. The Griz was an interesting engineering idea but that's about it.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 2 года назад
@@SonOfTheDawn515 You must not have been deep into handguns in the 1970s. 😉
@monkeyship74401
@monkeyship74401 2 года назад
But what about the 9MM Win Mag? Whatever happened there?
@tbjtbj4786
@tbjtbj4786 2 года назад
@@monkeyship74401 or the 10mm magnum.
@sombra6153
@sombra6153 2 года назад
I don’t know what effect Paul’s review of the Federal Super Carry will have on sales, but if Pop Tart sales aren’t going thru the roof, it ain’t Paul’s fault. They should try putting Paul on boxes.
@No_1OfConsequence
@No_1OfConsequence 2 года назад
Taking another trip down Memory Lane, there's the 10mm Auto. At the time there were some very high horsepower figures in the firearms world touting this round. The FBI coverted to it, S&W and Colt made firearms for it, and there was the (as it turned out ill fated) Bren 10 ultimate defensive pistol made specifically for it. What happened? Well, the 10mm Auto turned out to be too powerful for the vast majority of applications, and difficult to carry and shoot well. It's the auto pistol version of a .44 Magnum in terms of recoil and pressure. It gave birth to the .40 S&W which dominated the law enforcement market for decades and is still in wide use today. The 10mm still holds on as an outdoorsman cartridge due to its performance on medium/large game, but that's about it. The .357 SIG, which is a fantastic round, also failed to catch on. However, recently we've seen the .300 Blackout, 6.5 Creedmoor, and a handful of others become commercial successes due to demand and successful marketing. The .30 Super Carry offers duty pistol level magazine capacities in a sub compact pistol size with a performance in those pistols very comparable to 9mm. Getting 17+1 rounds in a Sig 365 XL is very appealing, and with the explosion of Constitutional carry legislation being passed in 26 states so far it would seem to be poised for success. While I can't predict the future better than anyone else, I think it will catch on if the marketing is successful enough because it does offer a very useful answer to the capability issue that is often raised with compact and sub compact firearms. I've never complained about having too much ammo.
@robertpatter5509
@robertpatter5509 Год назад
Could be best marketed towards replacing the.380 over the 9mm.
@marcusborderlands6177
@marcusborderlands6177 Год назад
I sell a decent amount of 10mm defensive loads at the gun store I work at. It's not as dead as you think it is. It's about on par in sales to .40 and a little less than .380
@oneproudbrowncoat
@oneproudbrowncoat 4 месяца назад
​@@marcusborderlands6177It performs well in PCCs, too, doesn't it?
@uglygunguy4810
@uglygunguy4810 2 года назад
Great Presentation! I'm a fan of new ammo, it's always interesting to see what they can come up with. But I remember well the 327 Federal that was going to be the ammo of the future! So, while I really like my Ruger in 327 Federal, I dont brag about it like I used to.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 2 года назад
Funny part is: this is basically hot loaded 7.65 French ammo, very very old.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 года назад
I don't even see any 327 fed mag or 32 H&R mag in any stores. Haven't seen them for a couple of years.
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 2 года назад
I reload and carry the .327 federal magnum, in a ruger lcrx. It is an awesome round. 👌
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 года назад
@@carlosreyes6448 It is an awesome round. Problem is you can't find it anywhere
@carlosreyes6448
@carlosreyes6448 2 года назад
That's why I reload them, all .32 calibers, short long h&r magnum, .327 federal magnum. And .32 acp from 50 to 125 grain, I even cast my own with wheel weights.
@gregknipe8772
@gregknipe8772 2 года назад
I appreciate your ability to program for non experts while engaging the big guns too. thank you. when I ask a question here, even embarrassingly basic, someone steps and answers it here. thank you.
@imthatguy1878
@imthatguy1878 2 года назад
Getting a respectable honest answer here is the best
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 2 года назад
It has seriously helped my knowledge level.
@nolancarlson5505
@nolancarlson5505 2 года назад
Thanks for being part of the community :)
@LordFred69
@LordFred69 2 года назад
we're all learning
@roybiv7018
@roybiv7018 2 года назад
Some governments restrict "military" chamberings (calibers) like 9x19, 7.62 NATO, etc. A decent pistol ammo will be appreciated by many, even if many of us see no purpose. It's similar to the 350 Legend which exists due to hunting regulations in some places, it's useful for many people.
@EricTheActor805
@EricTheActor805 2 года назад
Pretty much only Mexico But you can't own anything other than .380, .32, .25 or .22 in Mexico anyway
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D 2 года назад
do you even 9x18?
@roybiv7018
@roybiv7018 2 года назад
@@EricTheActor805 Thanks for the info.
@EricTheActor805
@EricTheActor805 2 года назад
@@roybiv7018 And in Canada .25 and .32 are expressly prohibited
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 2 года назад
The 350 legend exists because of straight wall cartridge states and weenies that can't handle recoil. It's not really needed if you're able to handle a thumper, a range finder, and figure out adjustable turrets. It's not popular in America because 'its not a military cartridge'.
@cr42hunting99
@cr42hunting99 2 года назад
When we tested the 30 Super Carry the HTPs performance was subpar every time… the HST from Federal in 30 Super held its own with the 9mm in most of our testing! Thx for the vid Paul!
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 2 года назад
Federal seems to be garbage in general... Not a fan
@t.dubbya7000
@t.dubbya7000 2 года назад
@@beargillium2369 HTP is Remington isn't it? Federal's HSTs are well used and very trusted among most law enforcement agencies.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 2 года назад
@@t.dubbya7000 i don't believe I said htp or hst. I just don't like federal and that's my opinion. I'm also not in law enforcement. They can use whatever they want and so can you.
@t.dubbya7000
@t.dubbya7000 2 года назад
@@beargillium2369 oh definitely! I like to use a lot of different brands with Speer GDs prolly being my favorite. I thought maybe you mixed up HST and HTP. The video was critical of the HTPs so I thought you were critical of them too. Hell, my man I'm just glad you like to shoot. Thanks for the reply.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 2 года назад
@@t.dubbya7000 🍻😁
@LoveTheElectro
@LoveTheElectro 6 месяцев назад
You're the best for a reason Paul. Extremely objective, data fueled, breakdown of the cartridge with 2 other comparables. Appreciate you!
@darrell9546
@darrell9546 2 года назад
.327 Federal magnum comes to mind. I was curious about the round when it came out but held off to see if it broke out. It never really did.
@macriggland6526
@macriggland6526 2 года назад
it will always have a devout set of reloaders consuming though. .327 mag revolvers can chamber 4 different cartridges. the comparison to .30 SC (the one trick pony nobody asked for) is not quite right.
@greylocke100
@greylocke100 2 года назад
I remember when .32 H&R Magnum came out, the security company I worked for was actually considering switching all of us from the .38 Specials we were carrying to it, but then they realized the cost. I kind of wish they had, as the old .38's they issued us were about completely shot out and many were out of time and spit lead at us when we had to qualify.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад
327 is a supermagnum, a hotter version of 32 H&R magnum. For whatever reason the .32 cal stuff has never been all that popular. .38 is everywhere on the planet. .32 not so much.
@bobjones-bt9bh
@bobjones-bt9bh 2 года назад
Ruger LCR in .327 is an ideal pocket carry. the Speer GDs I've seen at beyond 1400fps (gun sam), so it's got an energy margin over even top shelf 9x19 from duty-sized guns.
@macriggland6526
@macriggland6526 2 года назад
@@bobjones-bt9bh A .32 long full metal jacket penetrates the ideal 12-20 inches in gel every single time, too. So it is like a .22, but it is a center fire, so it is basically the perfect carry round in a revolver for someone who is recoil sensitive. .32 HR mag is about like a .380. So a person can get one gun and have 4 different recoil levels. Idc what anyone says, a .327 mag JSP 100 grain is adequate black bear defense, too. Great options for every purpose.
@mynameisstilljafo4063
@mynameisstilljafo4063 2 года назад
Established cartridges like 9mm have an almost insurmountable advantage over a newcomer to the field. The infrastructure, the history, and the sheer number of existing firearms chambered in a common caliber all stack the deck against it.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 2 года назад
and to be honest, 9mm is a good cartridge. It does a great job of balancing size and weight, capacity, power, etc. It's just a really nice sweet spot for autoloaders. It's relatively easy to shoot too. If you want more power, there are options but 9mm deserves serious consideration from anyone looking to carry a pistol.
@taiiat0
@taiiat0 2 года назад
​@@Clean97gti for higher power you could even lean towards some of the really hot 9x19 loads. or certain types of less standard Projectiles.
@Clean97gti
@Clean97gti 2 года назад
@@taiiat0 yup. They do make lighter 9mm bullets that go even faster and a good modern handgun doesn't mind +p loads. Or even some +p+ on occasion.
@taiiat0
@taiiat0 2 года назад
​@Eric Nunya then outside factors change on that one, Cartridges like 9x19 got massive Military adoption, and so that rocketed it to the front of the line. hehe. also 9x19 was a significant difference in overall power, but 30 super carry, isn't a major difference. so coming up with a reason to switch is a lot harder.
@geekofsteal
@geekofsteal 2 года назад
I'm of the opinion that federal made a huge mistake trying to compete with 9mm. If they had kept their loading pressures to comparable of .380, then they could have dug into the 'lower recoil, smaller gun' market. Lot of new, and specifically female shooters out there in real need of softer recoil in a gun that they can carry easily. Since Federal has explicitly stated that they're trying to target .380 prices, it wouldn't be a huge leap for customer who would have bought the .380 to choose a caliber of the same price, and same recoil that offered the opportunity to carry more rounds.
@trackpackgt877
@trackpackgt877 7 месяцев назад
Paul this is the best video I've seen on 30 super Carry on RU-vid in fact all of your gun videos are the best of anybody on RU-vid you do a very good job you're a good dude love your videos brother
@tomcampbell3905
@tomcampbell3905 2 года назад
A very thorough and detailed review of the .30 Super Carry round. Thank you, Paul. About your doubts about its future, I think I see a possibility for it. It would depend on some manufacturer coming up with a compact dual stack gun designed around this round. Hint, hint, Sig and FN! It could be a very small gun with 15 to 20 rounds in the magazine and ballistics very similar to the 9mm. Wow! I'm sure someone like Hornady or Speer could work out the expansion characteristics for the slug. However, if it remains just another odd round that can be chambered in existing frames, I'm afraid you're right. It'll just dry up and blow away.
@denmanfite3156
@denmanfite3156 2 года назад
Back in my day: I was happy to have Paul shoot these guns I would never bother with.
@macriggland6526
@macriggland6526 2 года назад
lol
@mlrllama
@mlrllama 2 года назад
My biggest issue with this caliber isn't with its performance, weapons in the same or its potential; it's the TIMING of its release. In a time where ammo is harder to find, more expensive and components like primers (for handloaders) extremely cost prohibitive if at all available, my priority is getting ammo to feed my current stock of weaponry.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 2 года назад
I feel exactly the same way. 30 Super Carry is a waste of small pistol primers!
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 2 года назад
Amen! Worst timing in history for the release of a new carry cartridge. I wanna train, and it's hard enough to afford, and/or find 9mm. Instead of ammo companies wasting time, money, amd materials on 30SC, they should be using every available resource on producing 9mm and all other popular cartridges.
@mlrllama
@mlrllama 2 года назад
@@Fudmottin 100%!
@mlrllama
@mlrllama 2 года назад
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28agree 100%.
@phantomspaceman
@phantomspaceman 2 года назад
They probably wanted to get it out the door with the micro 9 releases. It's unfortunate timing but it would have died on the floor if they had decided to just sit on it until things maybe got better.
@msa4548
@msa4548 2 года назад
I'm trusting Paul more and more for handgun information. He doesn't pick sides just gives the straight answers to the questions. The best chance the 30 sc has to make it is getting the gun models and different ammo types to market quickly. The longer it takes the fewer people that will jump on for the limited selection.
@DallasJonez
@DallasJonez 2 года назад
What a gentleman throwing the olive branch to ACP! Well done sir. Last I heard he was questioning the results of the meat target. Which I immediately thought foolish because I've seen nothing but consistency with the meat target. So just to say again, what a mature way to tip your hat in the spirit of peace. More RU-vid rs should act as you do.
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 2 года назад
I'll admit it, when they announced 30 Super Carry, I was one of those ones who went, well why not bring 38 Super or .357 Sig or 40 S&W or to get really crazy 45 GAP into the modern era with updated guns instead of making a brand new caliber. Nothing's wrong with any of those calibers, they just need more modern guns. However then upon digging further into what 30 Super Carry is suppose to do and then I went, okay I was wrong, there is a point to this caliber, it's just not for me.
@TiglathPileser3
@TiglathPileser3 2 года назад
It would be nice if it catches on to become relevant in the future. I think having more choices is better than fewer options. That said, 30 Super Carry isn't for me.
@ScrappyXGC
@ScrappyXGC 2 года назад
@@TiglathPileser3 Glad your honest about it isn't for you. That said the 40 was not for me, 1911 platform all the way... I carry a 40 now. It's not for why most people would think, like double stack, shorter grip (carried the P10-45 for years). It was only because local LEO duty carried G23, so I said fuck it, I am too. I've grown to enjoy the cartridge, even the platform. They used to carry 9's, which was a hell no for constant carry, still as a "church gun" it's fine.
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D 2 года назад
a semi-auto 25 acp out of a super-short barreled pistol (2.5 inch) double stack is my dream edc =..(
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 2 года назад
I could see a sig 365 with two or three more shots pitting very well into my daily carry routine. Does that matter so does the standard. For me the number of rounds where I start to feel like yeah that's about right is 12 in the gun. More is always nicer but I wouldn't want a bigger gun to fit more. This cartridge makes sense for that but I think the support for it is going to be slim for a while. It's kind of like 327 Federal. If you like what it does and you reload or otherwise can ensure that you will have a decent supply of ammo then it's not that big of a deal once you have the components. I had a big pile of brass for this casting the bullets wouldn't be a big deal for practice ammo but this is the sort of caliber where the quality of the defensive projectile is going to make a bigger difference. 9 mm is already one of those calibers and this is going to be more so. If you're looking at something with more energy and mass like 40 Smith & Wesson just about any JHP will give you pretty good terminal ballistics. But something like this you'd have to have excellent bullets every time.
@LIONTAMER3D
@LIONTAMER3D 2 года назад
@@GunFunZS i could see a sig 365 in a trash can, under the banana peels =/
@jameshobbs1104
@jameshobbs1104 2 года назад
Once again Paul you have produced a good video . I like your use of the meat targets . I will stay with 9 × 19 ( 9 MM ) .
@ForrestM-ln9sf
@ForrestM-ln9sf 5 месяцев назад
Another great video. We appreciate all the work you do to present great information. Keep doing what you do. Praying for you my friend.
@thatguy8879
@thatguy8879 2 года назад
I used to not like your videos, but the more I watch the more I like your stuff. Not over the top or as attention grabby as many youtubers. But man the amount of good information from your channel is insurmountable
@Mpeterson1286
@Mpeterson1286 2 года назад
I'm holding out for A: seeing the ammo on the shelf and B: seeing a P365 or Hellcat chambered for it. The niche it really stands out for is that "maximum firepower in maximum compact" market that just popped up.
@wades623
@wades623 2 года назад
they barely just got a 380 version of the p365 after like what 4 years now. I don't think it will catch on just because it doesn't offer any significant advantages worth buying one for if you already have something or know about it when you buy. this seems more like the one someone would buy that doesn't know what they are looking for and gets talked into by someone selling them. then those types probably won't use it for anything other than just having around and won't buy ammo for it
@Mpeterson1286
@Mpeterson1286 2 года назад
@@wades623 But the 380 version is silly. Its the exact same size and capacity as the 9mm...🤦
@coppertopv365
@coppertopv365 2 года назад
IF I can have more ammo in a Defensive CCW carry pistol.. and the round hits like a 9.. I kinda see advantages, but like others I am waiting to see availability and decent prices
@coppertopv365
@coppertopv365 2 года назад
@@Mpeterson1286 I had a bersa thunder 380 . . I loved that gun, but #1) I sold it because about 9 years ago during an ammo Shortage I couldnt find Ammo #2 it was kinda large, it was comparable to some 9mm Pistols #3 380acp is a 9 mm short.. so its not as good as 9mm. I sold my beloved 380 bersa and got me a 9mm Pistol for $200 with 3 mags. I have had no issue finding 9mm ammo.. and my 9mm ccw may be a little snappy, but it's never failed me.
@pewpew9193
@pewpew9193 2 года назад
​@@Mpeterson1286 It's not silly, it's perfect for people that like the platform, but want less recoil. It's also not exactly the same size & weight. It's not a massive difference, but the .380 slide is a little lighter & smaller. It's the most popular platform that offers an optic ready .380 chambered carry gun. I usually carry .40, but I can absolutely see the value in a .380 365.
@sbd5983
@sbd5983 2 года назад
Back in my day we used phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
40 watts? Pfffft. We trained little girls on 40 watts! 😂
@shorezee1253
@shorezee1253 2 года назад
Nice Terminator reference brother!!
@adstaton8461
@adstaton8461 2 года назад
Uuuzeee, 9 mulluhmedah.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 2 года назад
Get yourself back to your original timeline, metalhead.
@shorezee1253
@shorezee1253 2 года назад
45 long slide with laser sighting…
@bobjordan8283
@bobjordan8283 2 года назад
Shades of 6.8 spc rifle cartridges. It was supposed to take the world by storm and replace. 223 .556 but it never did. There are multiple stories of a new wonder round that was supposed to be something no one asked for but everything you ever needed! I was an early proponent of 10mm it fell out of fashion quickly and was replaced by .40 Smith&Wesson I kept mine and always hoped that someday people would see what a great round it was! Fast forward sometimes everything old is new again! Great video and informative as always thank you for everything you and your crew do for us!!
@captnhuffy
@captnhuffy 2 года назад
Excellent! Another great one by Paul.
@TheSteve1175
@TheSteve1175 2 года назад
I hope you know how much we appreciate you. Be Safe and Be Blessed.
@FernandoSantucci
@FernandoSantucci 2 года назад
The best perspective on the .30 Super Carry caliber with a lot of parsimony and wisdom from someone who has experienced the attempt to program the obsolescence of legacy ammunition in favor of calibers intended for a very specific application.
@ThorandSharon
@ThorandSharon 2 года назад
Very informative, nicely performed and presented! Thank you for posting and sharing.
@letsgobrandon416
@letsgobrandon416 2 года назад
Wow, you are thorough, thank you so much for this!
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 2 года назад
Have to agree. Given how widely available 9x19 is, 30 SC looks like a solution in search of a problem.
@johngraesser4911
@johngraesser4911 2 года назад
I have a book on pistol shoot in the early 1900's, the winner of the pine board penetration test was .30 luger, this seems to be version 2 of that.
@DarkFire515
@DarkFire515 2 года назад
@@johngraesser4911 Good point, I'd not considered that. It'd be interesting to see 30SC tested for penetration against 9x19, 40 S&W, 45 ACP etc.
@Predalien195
@Predalien195 2 года назад
So, Federal more or less stated that .30 SC was intended to target new shooters, not existing shooters. That said, for me as somebody who owns .32 caliber revolvers in the same bullet diameters, it's interesting to me. .30 SC seems to be essentially a hot .32 H&R Magnum, but achieves the numbers from slightly shorter barrels and has more rounds. I believe the round has potential and as @john graesser said, it's essentially .30 Luger 2.0 in terms of performance. Just not a bottleneck cartridge. I do appreciate the extra 2 rounds over 9mm guns in the same size.
@rydplrs71
@rydplrs71 2 года назад
In the USA I generally agree, but in Mexico where 9x19 is illegal for civilian use 30sc might be a better option then 9x20. Probably not but if it gains some popularity in the USA it might end up being more affordable and have more options in Mexico due to economy of scale.
@johngraesser4911
@johngraesser4911 2 года назад
@@Predalien195 an extra magazine costs less than a box of bullets.
@curtwuollet2912
@curtwuollet2912 2 года назад
7.62x25 fills the niche. If they wanted a winner, price .30 SC 30% lower than 9mm.
@matthewbeaver5026
@matthewbeaver5026 2 года назад
I agree with you but logistically it's impossible. The reason 9mm is (was) cheap is due to its abundance and historical track record. 30SC is only being produced by Vista outdoor companies. Very little quantities with slim competition amongst brands. Future 357 sig imo.
@curtwuollet2912
@curtwuollet2912 2 года назад
@@matthewbeaver5026 that's why I don't give it much of a chance. Releasing it now, when the last thing needed is another hard to find, spendy, cartridge, lowers the chance for uptake.
@TheRobman139
@TheRobman139 2 года назад
As a proud owner of a Zastava M57A, I heartily agree with your sentiment, but the problem with 7.62x25mm is that there is very little choice in firearms (a grand total of TWO new-build firearms in this chambering here, both imported), and very little choice in ammo (all imported from three countries, and only ONE choice for a factory hollow point carry round (it’s a good round but if you can’t find it, you’re SOL). It does seem like this .30 Super Carry is a marketing gimmick that at best reinvents the wheel; I wish American firearm and ammo manufacturers would take a closer look at the 7.62x25mm instead.
@robertallison9653
@robertallison9653 2 года назад
Great video as usual! Thank you Sir!
@hez9028
@hez9028 2 года назад
Great analysis and worth the view/listen. Thanks Paul.
@steveschaefer1070
@steveschaefer1070 2 года назад
Another great video Paul. The crazy thing about 30 sc is they came out with it during an ammo shortage. I’d call that bad timing. Mag capacity is not as essential as pop culture would have buyers believe. Easy for me to say being a 40s&w guy.
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 2 года назад
I'm reminded of my friend's former neighbor, when asked how she would respond to a thug at the door, she said "I'd just shoot through the door until I ran out of bullets". Her husband silently pulled the Glock 17 out of her hands and replaced it with a revolver. This is the new gunowner market they're fighting over -- it's a lot easier to sell "more more MORE" than marksmanship and tactics.
@Schlabbeflicker
@Schlabbeflicker 2 года назад
If anything, coming out with 30SC during an ammo shortage eliminates one of the primary weaknesses of a new caliber over an established caliber - that being ammo availability and price. If 9mm is already $0.30/round for FMJ and $0.50/round for decent JHP, is trying out a boutique caliber in the same price range that much more unreasonable?
@225degrees
@225degrees 2 года назад
@@stevenscott2136 Firearm manufacturers aren't concerned nor are they in the business of offering training. They sell products and are concerned with profits, nothing else.
@JohnSmith-fq3rg
@JohnSmith-fq3rg 2 года назад
Watching cop body cam footage leaves me still leaning heavily on the higher capacity side of the capacity vs handgun size/stopping power debate.
@225degrees
@225degrees 2 года назад
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg Capacity is excellent. More and better training is critical. More ammo being turned into more misses solves nothing.
@wtsane5449
@wtsane5449 2 года назад
If it's still here in a decade, or when there are at least 20 models in the caliber, I'll buy one. Til then, 9mm has the infrastructure to support it.
@imthatguy1878
@imthatguy1878 2 года назад
I'd love to see a few 1911s chambered in it
@wtsane5449
@wtsane5449 2 года назад
@@imthatguy1878 I'm still looking for a 7.62x25 conversion kit.
@stephenzavatski8016
@stephenzavatski8016 2 года назад
@@wtsane5449 I wish more 7.62×25 weapons in general were being made or modernized, or more conversions, seems like a very based cartridge. 9mm necked down to 7.62 would make for a clean performing round as well I think.
@wtsane5449
@wtsane5449 2 года назад
@@stephenzavatski8016 I think the problem is that it isn't a proprietary round.
@stephenzavatski8016
@stephenzavatski8016 2 года назад
@@wtsane5449 which?
@clintwestwood1895
@clintwestwood1895 Год назад
Brilliant evaluation and testing, thanks Mr.Harrell.
@tomaldrich6076
@tomaldrich6076 2 года назад
This is literally the comparison I was hoping for. Thank you Paul!
@Cheggley45
@Cheggley45 2 года назад
Good thorough subject coverage, as always Paul. I was thrilled 30+ years ago when the .32 H&R magnum came out, especially when Ruger and S&W chambered some revolvers for this new cartridge, but I only wanted a Smith 16-4 and couldn’t afford one, now they are unobtanium. Next the Hornady .327 latest and greatest came out a few years ago, “almost as powerful as a .357 and less recoil!” Recoil in a small frame Ruger SP101 was quite unpleasant. S&W produced a few J frames and Ruger is desperately trying to keep it alive, and Ammo is expensive and hard to find. What I am tying to convey here is there will always be a niche market for oddities, but will they become mainstream, who knows? I am crazy about my KelTec P32, should everyone carry one, nope but when I am going minimalist it works for me. My CZ52 and Tok M57 are a blast and could be used for defense in a pinch, however I’d rather have my Beretta 92fs or Sig P938 for serious work if I was out and about. At home it’s the Les Baer Prem II in .45 and a short 11/87 behind the door. Some folks need just one or two firearms for fun and defense, that’s what works for them. But me, I can’t have too many, so there is always room for another critter in my stable! New cartridges always peak my interest. Wants and needs are an an enigma, my wife calls it a disease.
@paulx2777
@paulx2777 2 года назад
"Recoil in a small frame Ruger SP101 was quite unpleasant." Try loading using a fast powder like Titegroup, a max load. Still enough velocity for expansion, but much reduced blast and recoil.
@brian_sipe
@brian_sipe 2 года назад
Sorry to be a random on the internet correcting you, but it's 'pique' my interest as opposed to 'peak' Again, I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, and have a great day.
@kenwheeler3637
@kenwheeler3637 2 года назад
I can relate. I'm, at least partially, a caliber collector. I like all sorts of oddities and obscurities.
@Kmurray9244
@Kmurray9244 2 года назад
The 32H&R was a fabulous round..the market is driven by advertising not practicality or ballistics. The more "Hype" the more people buy, then day out quickly (like the 327) .. The question is why carry a firearm with a frame size equil to one that exists (as In 30SC vs 9mm) but loss in terminal performance and bullet selection and ammo availability? It looks nice but there is no real logical reason to make that selection. 2/3 rounds extra? With lower performance? You'll need those extra rounds so it's a stalemate...IMO
@bradcampbell7253
@bradcampbell7253 2 года назад
I thought you said it was an enema lol
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 2 года назад
In my opinion, the only real use from .30 Super is if they can manage to fit it in a (nearly) .380ACP size frame. I imagine the felt recoil would be quite brutal, though. It may find its niche, but I think that's about as big as it'll get. Also, two of the main reasons betamax failed are: The players were more expensive and the tapes couldn't record as long as VHS (apparently a lot of people were upset they couldn't record an entire football game with a betamax tape).
@edwinball985
@edwinball985 2 года назад
From what I understand, the price difference was because Sony was keeping betamax proprietary for a long time to make more money per unit, while JVC licensed VHS to everyone and their dog. Also, apparently Sony selected a one hour recording time for Betamax based on their experience with commercial products, but once the initial design was set increasing recording time proved much more difficult. This guy has a more detailed explanation of the whole thing: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FyKRubB5N60.html And I agree, this cartridge seems like it would be better in a pocket pistol niche competing with .380.
@c3bhm
@c3bhm 2 года назад
@@edwinball985 Apparently the porn industry embraced VHS and that ended up making the big difference in the end. 'MURICA!
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 года назад
I had a similar thought - if you could - somehow?- upgrade .380 ACP performance without making the gun bigger and heavier......but that would be one snappy little gun that would be tough to shoot. Other than that, maybe some who favor single stack 9mm would benefit from the extra couple rounds. As for me, my 365XL is small enough and holds 12, and my PX4 Compact Carry (really kind of a mid-sized pistol holds 15. Do I need more rounds in either? That will also likely cost way more? No.
@MrNexor-cj8gs
@MrNexor-cj8gs 2 года назад
The porn thing is a myth.
@scooter5940
@scooter5940 2 года назад
@@MrNexor-cj8gs If you really believe it, is it still a myth?
@dennisjay3277
@dennisjay3277 2 года назад
Thank you Paul. Another great show.
@dennislewis660
@dennislewis660 11 месяцев назад
I may have been looking at this differently, than the conclusion you came to at the end. I was looking at .30 super carry as a more desirable round option to the .380, not as a replacement to the 9mm. Near same ballistics as the 9mm round as your video demonstrates, but with more capacity than a .380 pistol. If this caliber remains an option, I would not purchase the .380, but choose the more powerful, higher round capacity of the .30 super carry. Love your videos, they are always very well thought through and you do a great job explaining everything!
@ameliamccombs4313
@ameliamccombs4313 7 месяцев назад
Exactly. I don't understand how anyone can complain about this new cartridge.
@anonymousf454
@anonymousf454 2 месяца назад
Wish they made an LCP in 30 Super carry with an 8 round mag
@aeonise
@aeonise 2 года назад
What I got from this is there is negligible difference in performance between .30 SC and 9mm*, mostly down to the ammo's properties, so choosing .30SC is mainly about a little extra magazine capacity at the cost of rarer ammo (with attendant issues of ammo and availability pricing). The ammo availability issue may also make it hard to find quality .30SC ammo. Unless you're desperate for a couple extra rounds in a mag, I'm not seeing cause to switch from 9mm, and .30SC just doesn't have the marked superiority it would need to fight against 9mm's inertia as an established standard. Also, I will never get tired of watching Mr. Harrell pull all manner of things out of those pockets. *I'm just assuming this is intended to compete with the 9mm. Even if it isn't, that's clearly where it will end up.
@Scrap_Goblin
@Scrap_Goblin 2 года назад
Bear in mind 9mm got established because controllability and capacity are preferable to more energy. The 30sc is pretty much that line of thinkings logical end poiny
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 2 года назад
Also, IMO it's a solution to a problem that probably doesn't actually exist. How often will an armed civilian really need a couple of extra rounds over the 8+1 of a lot of subcompact pistols? For me the advantage doesn't outweigh the disadvantages and I suspect most people will feel the same way. Nevertheless, I won't completely rule it out just yet. I suspect it will end up like the .327 magnum -- not entirely gone but mostly forgotten.
@DocMitchell69
@DocMitchell69 2 года назад
@@itsapittie My thinking is that it would die off rather quickly. The whole higher capacity thing is rather moot, for the reason you mentioned, but also, we’ve been getting a lot of high capacity, micro 9s on the market. Hellcat, P365, Shield Plus, etc. Which begs the question, is 30 Super Carry even worth investing more time into?
@itsapittie
@itsapittie 2 года назад
@@DocMitchell69 You certainly could be right. I guess time will tell.
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 2 года назад
I think the .30SC would be best served in a single stack ultralight pistol. Something light, and very flat to carry. Conceptually like a Taurus Curve, though even thinner.
@matthewdiehl1647
@matthewdiehl1647 2 года назад
Great job, as usual, Paul, thank you.
@davidv.3135
@davidv.3135 2 года назад
Thanks Mr. Harrell! This answered all my questions.
@DCavalcade
@DCavalcade 2 года назад
Another great video. Thank you.
@mikem2132
@mikem2132 2 года назад
Just the video I’ve been waiting for, thanks Paul!
@BBQDad463
@BBQDad463 2 года назад
Thank you for this excellent review, demonstration/test, and comparison. As always, your work is top shelf.
@mascasa7502
@mascasa7502 Год назад
Thanks for the analysis, Paul.
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 2 года назад
Excellent presentation, Paul. You illustrated so many interesting points about the new caliber.
@bracoop2
@bracoop2 2 года назад
You do the BEST tests and you make sure to be very thorough in your presentation, which I very much appreciate! I’m a new watcher but I’m definitely donating to your patreon!
@joshtwyman6319
@joshtwyman6319 2 года назад
Honestly I had never heard of 30 super carry before this video. So it was cool for me to see, and learn about a different and new caliber. As always a great entertaining and informative video keep up the great work Mr. Harrell, and crew.
@josephtucciarone6878
@josephtucciarone6878 2 года назад
Thank you again, for sharing you experienced insight into the world of shooting today.
@132images
@132images 2 года назад
Great stuff as always, PH!
@davidduafala3050
@davidduafala3050 2 года назад
Paul is becoming my favorite RU-vid channel because he he is so practical in his videos. I am in love with the meat target because it tells me so much more than most ballistic gel tests when talking about handgun rounds. Good Job Mr Harrel
@derfnyc1
@derfnyc1 2 года назад
Your right.. the meat target is a great Representation on how and what a round will do to you. I'm not a big fan of jello test.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
I found Paul in late 2019 when I was out on disability for a massive heel spur. He just showed up one day. Can’t say I had any complaints. Funny thing is I don’t watch any “GunTube” channels.
@bryandamkaer3646
@bryandamkaer3646 2 года назад
A well placed bullet in pretty much any caliber can be lethal ... Great presentation. Found it very interesting and informative.
@craigbenz4835
@craigbenz4835 2 года назад
Some paper target accuracy demonstration would have been a nice addition for the new cartridge.
@Stargun-vj1uh
@Stargun-vj1uh 2 года назад
@@craigbenz4835 I mean, maybe, but I think the issue there is that it would then have alot more variables. As he said, we are not comparing firearms, we are comparing cartridges as closely as we can. Accuracy is based on a multitude of different things, and if we had the exact same model of firearm in all calibers shown, with same barrel length, I think it'd be fair. The fact we don't, you'd have to extrapolate alot of the results to how similar are these pistols and build quality, and how much of this is just the round being fired. I think at the end of the day, accuracy wise, it'll be perfectly acceptable for self defense. So while I agree that it would be a nice addition and I would like to see it myself too, I see why he didn't.
@minutemanmedic4143
@minutemanmedic4143 2 года назад
clarification, you mean incapacitating. Even poorly placed rounds will be fatal if the victim receives no medical attention.
@macriggland6526
@macriggland6526 2 года назад
@@minutemanmedic4143 I usually don't like pithy talking points, but this one is relevant.
@darthkek1953
@darthkek1953 2 года назад
A civilian does not need to be lethal. A civilian needs to make a "change of behaviour" (basically the aggressor surrendering or running way) nothing more. You're not the police, you're not the army, you do not have to force compliance and Confront to Conform. As such pretty much any gun will do. For all the "low power" mockery the 380 ACP gets (for example) I challenge anyone to find ANYONE who'll agree to take a single 380 round to the chest.
@suncoaster8578
@suncoaster8578 Год назад
I just recently found your channel. And every thing I have seen is exemplary Paul, and so are you. Thanks for all you do!
@wesleyjamison4442
@wesleyjamison4442 2 года назад
As always good information & entertaining. Keep it up Paul.
@Ifoughtpiranhas
@Ifoughtpiranhas 2 года назад
Rumor has it that Paul was asked to be an extra as a victim in Steven Spielberg's 'Jaws' film, but when the shark found out, it quit and they had to build a mechanical shark to take its place.
@dr.floridamanphd
@dr.floridamanphd 2 года назад
Yeah, that shark knew better.
@tek4
@tek4 2 года назад
Rumor I hear is that, upon Birth Paul gave the doctor useful, accurate and timely information on how to finish the procedure. The doctor went on to get awards in his field.
@ScrappyXGC
@ScrappyXGC 2 года назад
Pocket carry... ya never know. Better be polite. 😂
@ScrappyXGC
@ScrappyXGC 2 года назад
@@tek4 And the idea of a meat target was born. Um, how many different cali... mothers and doctor's did he test to make sure he could honestly evaluate? 🤔
@servicerifle16
@servicerifle16 2 года назад
I honestly think .30SC is going to be the next .327 or .224 Valkyrie, especially being released during a time with limited availability of even common rounds like 9x19.
@ejjackson2573
@ejjackson2573 Год назад
As always a great video, I now know all I need to about the 30 Super Carry, thanks!
@mothman-jz8ug
@mothman-jz8ug 2 года назад
2022: 30 Super Carry is the most powerful. most accurate semi-auto handgun in the world. Everyone will have heard about "some guy" dropping a charging elephant with it, etc. 2025: Go to store, say you want ammo for a 30 Super Carry and the first words out of their mouth is "what's that?". OR, tell someone you have a 30 Super Carry for sale and they ask, "Is that a cargo van?" Just my opinion and worth everything you paid for it, but I have seen this new caliber act before. With each annual crop of new, "must-have" calibers, I'm reminded of the theory behind the annual crop of new "must-have fishing lure: Lures aren't designed to catch FISH, they're designed to catch FISHERMEN. When evaluating any of the yearly must-have calibers, always ask yourself what it could do that something else doesn't accomplish already. In essence, ask whether it kills more dead that what has been around for years upon years.
@mattevans-koch9353
@mattevans-koch9353 2 года назад
Thank you Paul for another excellent presentation. I was curious about the performance of the 30SC and you have satisfied that curiosity. Take care and have a great week.
@shorezee1253
@shorezee1253 2 года назад
Hi Paul. Just wanted to let you know I’m a really new subscriber and I really dig what you do and how you do it man!! Thank you!
@Tacotoosdays
@Tacotoosdays 5 месяцев назад
I like guns. I know guns. I teach others about guns. When I’m not sure I look to Paul. Thank you sir, many times over.
@jasyamaha
@jasyamaha 2 года назад
That was all levels of awesome. You are the man.
@kokocostanza2036
@kokocostanza2036 2 года назад
Seeing the results from the meat target today, I'm pretty disappointed in the .30. I really thought the JHP would have worked better, considering the 1100 FPS he was getting. Maybe something different like an HST or Critical Defense might perform like it should, but who knows. Also, considering that you can get an extended magazine for just about every 9mm that might only add half an inch for 2-3 extra rounds, I kind of think the .30 is trying to fill a gap that really isn't there by answering a question no one was really asking.
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 2 года назад
Yes, good point
@chrisjones6002
@chrisjones6002 2 года назад
I expected better from it too. Maybe something like the Lehigh phillips head bullets would do better in 30.
@ericw3229
@ericw3229 2 года назад
Also worth noting today there so many 9mm pistols even sub compacts with 10-13 round capacity even 15 rounds. Does 2 more rounds in .30 SC make that big a difference?
@Nostradamus_Order33
@Nostradamus_Order33 2 года назад
@@ericw3229 This is the second attempt at a niche caliber. Remember the 327 Fed Magnum?
@StevenL00
@StevenL00 2 года назад
it's more like a step up from 380 with no noticeable penalty in recoil, and it's only intended to be a pocket carry round so like, yes there is a purpose for it, but it's not for everyone
@mgsharnhorst
@mgsharnhorst 2 года назад
Another "in between caliber" that is unnecessary, will be hard to get and will be expensive to shoot. Great review
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 2 года назад
Except it isn't actually inbetween. The .30 SC is within 5% of the energy of 9x19mm (and occasionally more powerful than some 9mm loads), and gives you an 18% bump in magazine capacity. If Federal can work out the bullet expansion issues (which is a pretty minor tweak), then it will be a no brainer for replacing .380 ACP and 9mm in subcompact pistols.
@mgsharnhorst
@mgsharnhorst 2 года назад
@@ostiariusalpha Too much math. 30 sc will be very hard to get and big $$$, not worth it in my view. Putting an extra magazine of 9mm in the front pocket solves the capacity issue
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 2 года назад
@@mgsharnhorst If basic arithmetic is too difficult for you, then maybe you should get off the internet and hit the books. It's never too late to better yourself. As I've repeated elsewhere, 9mm has a bad habit of spiking in price thanks to periods of panic buying, and those aren't going away anytime soon. It's true though if Vista Outdoors can't manage to get the price of .30 SC down a bit, it certainly won't grow in popularity.
@detroitdan8487
@detroitdan8487 Год назад
Another great analysis.
@verbalwidget7267
@verbalwidget7267 6 месяцев назад
Love your reviews, Thank you Paul
@Man-jf6lz
@Man-jf6lz Год назад
To be honest, I like the number crunching, but the most unique, and in my opinion useful, test Paul does is the MEAT TARGET! Nobody else does it, and I think it's more representative of real world performance than ballistics gel.
@jw-sigp2258
@jw-sigp2258 2 года назад
I love Paul’s possible outcome for 30 super carry in the future at the end of the video. This whole video was amazing but that was one of my favorite parts! 😂
@ervinfinney1039
@ervinfinney1039 Год назад
Right on point Paul as usual.
@AWareWolf9
@AWareWolf9 Год назад
Realistic, fair, good information!!Everyone has to choose what’s best for them and I appreciate that you always go out of your way to point that out. You’re not trying to tell us what guns or caliber we HAVE to use, but you do always make fair and transparent tests and comparisons, for our information. Very cool- thanks for doing this important work for the community!
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 2 года назад
When Paul starts counting, I watch for birds. Must be a Pavlovian response.
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 2 года назад
I have seen other comparisons on this topic from other channels, but I always Love Pauls take on it. And man, the Pop Tart commercials are on fire!❤‍🔥
@kubikariYOU
@kubikariYOU 2 года назад
Great video, thanks.
@txhuntsman
@txhuntsman 2 года назад
Very interesting demonstration and as always presented with balance and commons sense. By the way keep those chrono test coming. I always enjoy that segment.
@nolanmcevoy2547
@nolanmcevoy2547 2 года назад
This will stick around for the “shot placement” people the same way they still make compact .45s for the “stopping power” people
@admingeneral6532
@admingeneral6532 2 года назад
10 mm…because they don’t make 11mm
@jeffie8696
@jeffie8696 2 года назад
They reinvented 32 French Long, I suggested this one years ago as 32 Super and was shot down by none other than Jan Libourel . Having more rounds in the magazine is always a good idea in a combat situation, reloading makes you vulnerable, nobody suggests single shots for self defense .
@royharrell1760
@royharrell1760 2 года назад
Paul did not suggest a single shot. Your statement makes an implication and no sense. You are correct, reloading makes you vulnerable. However if done correctly you always have a loaded gun, even while reloading.
@zekeanderson4745
@zekeanderson4745 2 года назад
@@royharrell1760 you related to Paul? I had brother n law named Roy. Nice guy.
@225degrees
@225degrees 2 года назад
Reloads are all but non existent in self defense shootings. A pistol with a ten round magazine is more than adequate. The .30 SC cartridge is an answer to a question no one asked.
@OfficialFedHater
@OfficialFedHater 2 года назад
Who is reloading in a self defense situation? Most situations end in around five shots and modern carry guns are packing around 10-15.
@bubbajones5905
@bubbajones5905 2 года назад
Higher capacity is nice, even if not important. It's paying three time the cost for practice ammo that I can't get past.
@michaelmcduff2263
@michaelmcduff2263 12 дней назад
We love you Paul. Best of luck with your health issues. Love ya man!
@Prepper319
@Prepper319 Год назад
Man we love you Paul ! ❤
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