Paul is so modest when he points to himself as an "average shooter" I feel like saying "No Paul, we have all seen you shoot through the years and you sir are not average." Anybody remember the demonstration covering shooting guns out of people's hands? That was good shooting!
At one point Paul felt he needed to demonstrate his credentials and dumped a whole damn box worth of shooting competition medals on the table. I think Paul just likes to keep himself humble and not rest on his laurels. I think it's fair to put him in the 95th percentile of shooters (that is, in the top 5% by ability).
@@rdrrr Not only a box of medals but stacks of plaques and upright trophies, the gold cup kind, if you've seen what he says is "most" of the collection. Still he is average compared to people who can shoot out the entirety of the ace from an Ace of Spades ♤
@@Hjerte_Verke At the shooting gallery back in ye olden days I could do a fair job of that with the automatic bb air guns they had.... I would STILL not rate myself within hollerin' distance of Mr. Harrell... maybe that is a different scale. :) CHEERS.
“This is not my Glock. There are many like it but this one is not mine.” Very interesting comparison. I think your takeaway nails it. It might give serious (read “rich”) competitors an edge but for the average (read “not rich”) shooter, not so much.
My first pistol was the previous generation of the Jericho, before the slide cuts on the front made it ugly, and I love the thing. After awhile I picked up the Masada and it's been pretty damn solid as well. Just reliable guns with great ergonomics.
I have the 941 polymer version we call it the baby desert eagle here, and it is by far my worst shooting pistol, at 25m I can barely keep 10 rounds on a issf rapidfire target. I love its form, function and reliability but shooting it depresses me, not sure if its just me or the gun but I just can't get it to perform close to my other pistols perhaps polymers just aren't for me. .
Had 9 941FS over 30yrs. Still have 5 of them. Have on one over 120k rounds on it. Combined with other gripp panels, they fit like a glove and Istill like the a lot. Allof my ones had tight tolerances and where fairly accurate. The poliygon barrel was picky to some sort of bullets and weights, not in function, just in accuracy. But If I was using it, I did could check what I wanted to use, so I took the best for her guts. Still love them.
This is one of the first resources I put in front of new shooters. He's got a real gift for making the material accessible without talking down to the audience.
@@MichaelJenkins910 I agree...Paul is a wealth of knowledge and experience and it's with that, that I use his videos to educate my New Shooter Friends as Paul is far better at articulating the nuances of "The Gun" than I ever could.
Over time Paul continues to show us with tangible facts that in the vast majority of comparisons between expensive equipment and equipment at common prices, the difference, if there is one, does not really justify the investment. As always thank you Paul!
Most "really expensive guns" probably would not make any difference to the lower 90% - 95% of shooters as you point out. Convincing folks that spending that extra money on practice ammo and range time is a real hard pull. LOTS easier convincing Joe-Blo (and myself) that THIS HYEAR THINGY CAN MAKE YOU A WIZ BANG SHOOTER! Especially if it is cerakoted or tacti-cool or has nifty blinkin'-lites or the name "Dan Wesson" or "Ed Brown" on it. :) CHEERS!
Paul - Alien 9 owner here. My brother brought out his CZ Shadow2 and we did a Coke vs Pepsi taste test. Our very unscientific conclusions were that although the Alien 9 does indeed have a different recoil impulse than the CZS2, there was almost "Not enough difference to make a difference" and our groups with both contestants suggested the same. The slightly smaller grip of the Shadow2 fit my hand better, and his $1k CZ was (as you stated) $4K LESS than my Alien 9. I'll never sell it, but the point you made about getting something else and spending the additional $4k on ammo and training is 100% valid.
Diminishing returns. I once heard from a well-off guy who owned around eight high end pistols that the CZ shadow 2 was unbeatable in it's price tag and would leave little to be desired in performance against any other pistol. It was way before laugo, so I'm not comparing the two directly. Still, once you achieve what the Shadow 2 does, you need to start pouring a lot of money to get more performance. CZ has done it best to offer price-performance in the shadows, even getting to the point of designing a gun without a firing pin block. But that's so life. Up to a point, if we eschew high-end sport performance and focus only in mundane real life drills, a Taurus TS9 with no other modification than a polished firing pin, would do everything a Shadow 2 does, but weighting less, being less difficult to conceal and with the advantage of being drop safe. Unfortunately, due to a license deal, Taurus doesn't sell that pistol in North America, but that's a gun they could offer in the price range of a glock generation 5...
Paul one aspect you didn't mention for the rapid fire portion is the Alien was the first gun shot on that drill, by the end you were getting more and more warmed up. Great shooting!
This thing might be outstanding with red dots though mitigated recoil and a stable dot, that might shave of even more time. Edit* I hope of a price point under 2000 though and i am concerned of the gas system beeing very maintanance intensive.
@@airgunfun4248 I don't know why they are dodging your question, kind of obnoxious. The Jericho 941 is the handgun of choice for Spike Spiegel the main character in Cowboy Bebop. Very cool show and firearm.
I appreciate Paul's down to earth advice. Pass on the $K gun, use the savings on ammo for practice time. That said, there are a ton of good pistols these days that work very well, are accurate, and people buy lots of them. We live in a good time for finding a decent gun at a reasonable price. I get a smile on my face when folks mention their new favorite gun to me that they shoot well, the grip is right, the sights/optic is right, the width, length, weight, ammo count, all of that has them all excited AND they did not have to take out a loan to buy it. No, I will not say what my favorite is. No way. I don't want the blow back from those that want to convert me to their favorite gun. Been down that dead end road and it always looks the same. I'll stay happy and hope everyone finds their happy place and their favorite gun.
It always cracks me up when Paul says "We are trying to determine the accuracy that can be achieved with this pistol by the average shooter" .... while pointing to himself.
Just for the fun of it, I calculated the Hit Factor for each of the guns: Alien: 16.212 M-59: 13.523 M-17: 14.767 92FS: 16.927 G17: 14.710 941R: 14.732
Bearing in mind Paul's wealth of experience with the Beretta, this shows that the Alien's design conveys a significant (in the statistical, not idiomatic sense) improvement in hit probability.
Hey Paul! I met you at Yardbirds a couple years ago, the tall girl who was with Elly. I have a Jericho 941R too! Really cool to see you compare it against the Alien, which I've been super curious about. Stay safe and have a great one!
Paul pointed out that he had never used an Alien prior, meanwhile his 92FS seems to be his main pistol. Having a comparable score between something you've never shot before and the gun you have the most practice with is nothing to scoff at.
@@alexander1902 That was my point. I was saying that since Paul was able to achieve a similar level of accuracy and speed with the Alien compared to the 92FS, that it was likely a very good pistol as he hasn't had to learn and adjust like he has with others.
@@HTacianas the $4000 price tag comes from the fact that it’s an innovative piece that’s a one of a kind. It’s not meant to turn a first time shooter into John Wick. An experienced shooter with his Hi Point would do better than a beginner with the Alien. At no point does Laugo or anybody else say otherwise.
I do like the concept of a handgun built with for less muzzle rise. My S&W 422 incorporated a form of this and it seemed to make followup shots faster (for a small 22LR). Unfortunately my eldest daughter loved it as much as I did. 🙄 Maybe I'll find another one some day.
I just got back from the range with mine (2000+ rounds through it total). My personal favorite pistol. Fantastic CZ75 clone with good weight to make the experience very pleasant. not a carry gun, but stupid fun and reliable.
I have a Baby Eagle in .45. I love it, but it's a bit bulky for concealed carry, even on my frame. 10+1 rounds of .45 isn't bad. Baby Eagle and Jericho, are basically the same gun re-branded. The Baby Eagle is put out by Magnum Research and Jericho is made by Israel Military Industries or IMI, which itsself got rebranded to Israel Weapon Industries (IWI). Both manufactured by IWI (IMI).
Thanks Paul. Nice to see someone shooting 20 yards. I do most of mine 20-30 yards figuring most 'opponents' mano a mano practice at 10 yards and will try to get closer before starting the 'conversation'. Hopefully to my advantage. 🤓🇦🇺
I'm a big fan of the Jericho. Mine is an FS9 which is their "mid sized" all steel model. I find it to be an absolute tack driver of a pistol and the all steel construction makes recoil fairly minimal. I used to have a compact Beretta 92 and between them I prefer the Jericho for a 9mm.
@Mana razor well it's complicated. The Jericho as we know it has gone by several different brand names and designations in the past. For example it used to be known as the Baby Eagle. Even here we see Paul is using an R model which they don't make anymore. From IWI's website there are 2 models of Jericho 941 in current production, both all steel. The F9 and the FS9. The F9 is considered full sized and the FS9 midsized. The only difference between them is barrel/slide length with the F9 having 4.4in and the FS9 having 3.8in. The .45 caliber model and both of the polymer framed models are listed as discontinued with the latter being replaced by the newer Jericho Enhanced (as opposed to 941) models. Interestingly the reason it's dubbed 941 is because it was originally designed to be interchangeable between 9mm and the more potent .41AE. That's also why the all steel models are on the heavy side for a 9mm. Since .41AE lost out to .40S&W much like HDDVD did to BluRay its been doomed to obscurity thus IWI no longer makes the conversion kits for it. At least we get to have a nice all steel 9mm in the end.
Thanks Paul and team, that was really interesting. For paper target accuracy, my "go to" 9mm would be an old school SIG 210 but every so often I am surprised by how accurate some Browning Hi-Powers can be with decent ammo.
I've never heard of this gun before... sounds interesting, especially with the frame mounted sights. Looks like it performs well enough... Wait... did you say 4 THOUSAND dollars? LOL Yeah, I'll just go buy another M&P... or 5 for that price.
@@thisagame5847 That's absolutely ridiculous... I just paid less than 1/10th of that for a 10mm M&P2. Yeah, it may be a lesser gun, but this "alien" pistol can't be 10 times better. I'd rather buy an FN SCAR 17 for that price.
I have to admit, it really looked to me like there was a little less muzzle flip with the alien, but that price? I agree. Definitely a competition gun.
I worked at a large gun shop years ago and handled and sold many of those Jericho 941s and they all had superb DA/SA triggers and excellent ergonomics (ala the CZ-75) Very highly recommended.
considering the Jerichos are forged and CZ-75s are cast I’d say the Jericho wins on durbility over all unfortunately it weights a metric fuck ton….still my favorite pistol that I daily carry
If Paul considers himself a average shooter. I'd hate to consider what kind of shooter I am. But like Paul said "buy more ammo and practice"! That you Sir for all your hard work and time you are appreciated.
The Alien certainly has an intriguing design, but for the price I could think of a lot of other firearms I'd rather have. Also, I'm curious about the durability of the Alien design.
Happy to hear gunfire in the background again. Looked like all the pistols performed well given the parameters of ownership and the amount of practice or lack thereof Paul had with each pistol.
IPSC person here. I drive a Tanfoglio. It's basically the Jericho but a bit nicer (bull barrel, bigger mag catch, better trigger etc.) and more expensive. Actually, I would've bought the 941FS (Steel frame with a frame mounted safety) if there were any on the market when I was looking for a production class pistol.
We have an Alien at my local range. I rented it out and was honestly blown away by my grouping and shot speed. For a pistol I'd never fired before I was shooting as good as my prodigy with an optic and much faster. And that little gun doesn't have much muzzle flip either. In fact I had to upgrade the spring on it so I could shoot more quickly as it felt like I had to wait for the slide to go forwards before pulling the trigger again. I am very impressed with the Alien. Better start saving money.
Paul shot the Alien better than every pistol except the 92FS... but the Beretta is his main carry gun and he has more experience with it than every other handgun he owns combined. Nearly as good out of the box as a pistol he has years of experience shooting. I consider that a ringing endorsement of the Alien.
Excellent test Paul ! All those guns ran great and you had excellent groups on all ! Like you I have a few 9mm hand guns but my favorite range gun is one I've had since I bought it new in 1990 , my Ruger p89 stainless, its heavy so recoil is low and it is easy to keep on target .
Beetween Paul Harrell and Masad Aoube ive learnt so much about guns. Bear in mind I'm 66 years old and only fired 1 shot from a 22 rifle in my whole life. I'm irish and live in UK.
@@PaulHarrell I bought my Jericho 941 at a gun show where I was able to handle it right beside the Beretta 92FS. Both had great fit to my hands and both actions seemed to be very smooth. The 92FS was $200 more, so being a little frugal, I went for the 941. Interested in what ammo was used for this demonstration? Was it plain range practice ball ammo or some type of defense rounds?
The Manute Bol reference was a true lol. But I have to say, the man was a true humanitarian and great human being, let his legacy not be forgotten in Sudan
I don't know if I have seen a good head to head video with the alien like this before. Really cool to see how it stacks up. Had never heard of the IWI pistol. Did some quick reading on wikipedia, and I would love to see a more in depth video on that particular firearm. Good video.
Hey Paul , I researched that Ian Fleming , creator of James Bond , owned a Browning .25 , serial number 257024 , made in 1920-1921 . Source : Colt Forum Help identifying Ian Flemings Police Positive . Fleming did not own a Beretta . In Flemings estate listed all his guns including the Browning .25 . The gun was a war time issue that Fleming took every year to Jamaica. The .25 was not licensed in England until Fleming wrote a contact in government in 1953 . I have identified the .25 as a Colt 1908 vest pocket model . Just thought you would like to know . Thank You for all your work .
In other words, the Alien is at least as good as any of these other popular pistols. And maybe it has more potential once the shooter gets use that that particular design. Good test, well done. And my new favorite quote is, "And yes, that is annoying."
My CZ75 BD SA is the most accurate semi auto pistol I've ever shot, so I'm not surprised its Israeli cousin did well. I hope some day a 941F makes it into my collection (if nothing else so I can make "Space Cowboy" jokes). Yes, I know Spike carried a 941R but I want the frame mounted safety thankyouverymuch.
My take; "Beware of Paul Harrell... even when he's carrying 6 guns, because his shooting with each of them is almost always going to be better than 'combat accurate'. "
Great comparison. I carried S&W 9mms for years on the job, I always encountered difficulties in getting tight groups with them. My fellow troopers often heard me say, "Well, you don't need tight groups because you can only destroy tissue once." I've also owned a Jericho for years & like its performance. My department went to Glocks in .40 S&W 10 years prior to my retirement & it seemed qualification scores improved. These days most of my handgun shooting is with red dot sights as my near vision focus is now beyond a front sight. I get the most jollies from flopping over my MGM spinner.
As a shootist that Alien is absolutely amazing. I shot a friend’s gun and it was better then I am with my 941, G17, G22, Sig X5 and Beretta 92. Of course I can’t afford one and will never buy one, but it’s absolutely worth the price, if you hunt or shoot competitively. Also worth it if you already own 20 different pistols and want a “perfect” pistol. 1% better is expensive, and 2% better is very expensive. The Alien is 2.5-5% better and is actually a bargain compared to a ground up custom 1911/2011 that may or may not shoot as well as a Legion or X-5. (Don’t like the sights though and shot the RMR upper sooooo much better). What I’m saying is Paul’s experience is the same as mine only the Alien was slightly better and faster for me, even cold.
I'm with a lot of the commentators on here, I never thought I'd see Paul do a review on a Laugo Alien. However, I'm grateful for Paul's testing and insights into specific Firearms and Firearm Types. I would absolutely love to see Paul do one of His lengthy testing with various ammunition, meat targets and His Patented Dawn of Time Explanations!!! Thanks Again, Paul!!! You have made me a better Marksman and have helped to weed out guns I don't necessarily need.
The g17 was very impressive right from the factory. Of course your 92fs is the gold standard for the PH RU-vid channel and really makes me desire one in my collection. So far I have stuck to Sig and Glock but the M92a4 is definitely in my future.
@@breckfreeride I bought a 92f eons ago and didn’t have to do anything to it for it to be accurate and a great shooter. Maybe it just fits me very well.
The problem is that all M9/92FS pistols have their safety right on the damn slide. I hate it. The M1911's safety and it's position on the weapon absolutely curbstomps the M9's into the ground. I have no idea why we don't have more pistols flat out copying the M1911's homework when it comes to the safety.
With all respect to the gun makers, this demo shows that the shooter makes all the difference. And Paul's remark at the end makes all the sense in the world - thank you Sir!
I'd love to see paul's performance with the alien a few hours into shooting. I suspect with a day of deliberate training with it, he'll leave the 92, which is an amazing gun, in the dust.
I doubt that he will replace his Beretta for anything else. He's an old timer. In a bygone era, a man could change profession, marital status, religion, name, even his gender, but never his gun, lol. That said, I'm quite sure that the reason he uses that 92 it's because he has so much training both during and after service that he truly confides in it and it would take a unprecedentedly novelty just to make he try (with the internet of replace his guns) something else. That said, you have a point, I wonder what could he achieve with the laugo (or another high end pistol) after a month of two of only shooting it. Great expectations.
I think given the amount and format of shooting he does the alien wouldn't be practical. For the price point it's not just expensive to acquire, but likely very expensive to maintain as well. Kinda like handing a concept car to someone who teaches defensive driving classes.
That's the first thing I tell new pistol buyers. All the major brands are good and work fine. Pick the one that fits you best, i.e. point shooting. Otherwise you'll be handicapped from the get go. A good example of a poor ergonomics auto is the S&W 59. I had two in my life. They felt like 2x4s and always shot low unless you shot sloooww and deliberate. Very reliable but not very shootable.
Hey Paul. Because of your comparison and review of ammo a few videos back, I decided I liked the Sig Sauer V-Crown ammo and decided to purchase some to replace my Hornady ammo (which you've indicated have poor performance). I got 200 rounds in 9x19 and 200 in .40 S&W. Surprisingly the .40 S&W ammo was about 5 bucks a box less than the 9mm. Anyway I feel much more comfortable keeping my pistols loaded with the V-Crown, especially because my 9mm was loaded with that cheap IMI ammo. The IMI ammo served its purpose at the time I purchased it when ammo was so hard to find. Anyway the IMI ammo will be great for plinking.
