Pete Rose is Still Angry at the Reds 

Pissed at the league and the Reds office but not the players and coaches.

Title should be Pete Rose still angry at Baseball not the Reds. Him not being allowed the Game & Team is the MLB not the Reds.

Bill Stephens Exactly. If the Reds were allowed to have him in the clubhouse they would trust me

MomanSLM Don't put the Reds office into this. They have NOTHING to do with it! it's all MLB

ThePowerStacks if I'm not mistaken until Manfred became commissioner, the Reds were not even permitted to officially retire his number or induct him into their own Hall of Fame. (They unofficially didn't issue his number 14 except briefly to his son when he had the stint in the majors, but were barred from officially recognizing him in that way.) I think Manfred eased some of those restrictions but stopped short of actually reinstating Rose. Though he did, at the same time as he officially denied Rose's reinstatement request, also suggest that he believes the Hall of Fame is a separate question and implied that he doesn't necessarily agree that the Hall shouldn't be able to at least put him on the ballot. But that's actually a decision over which the Hall of Fame has its own discretion.

dbag0584 what are you dumb

@@samw2431 he admitted to sleeping with girls who he thought were as young as 16 while married and in his 30s. Some of the girls were allegedly as young as 14. When he was confronted about it he said they told him they were 16. He's a gross pig.

vashthestampede11 i have never heard of that

Why is that sad? He broke the one infallible rule of the game. So why shouldn't he be band? He lied, cheated, and gambled. Obviously you tell your kids it is OK to do those things. Rules are for chumps and assholes, son. Just don't get caught. Fuck him. He has never admitted wrong, and is a fucking go-nad.

@@jamesoconnor3562 Yea and how many did drug and roids and still played the game horseshit on infallible rules my ass!

No one says he isn't a pleasant, voluble little rascal who is sort of an autistic savant about hitting fast-moving baseballs. And living on speed. But he duck fupped the game and I want it written on his gravestone, along with the main big-time juicers. Phooey.

So you were honored to be around a cheater? Kind of sums up your life huh? Nuff said.

@Dmb596 4 years later, good job mate. He never cheated. Shows how much you know about the situation lol. Maybe take the next four years to reflect on your ignorance.

Hey.....wheres that pic taken of the boat on the water in your profile??

@@motorcitymanman7711 Caribbean off of St Kitts.

@@RecoveringGenius Thanks.....the wife and I are thinking of doing the Carribean for the first time....whats the best "Bang for the Buck" area? We dont have a lot of dough. One person whose been there a lot told me Aruba or Trinidad/Tobago. What say you?

@@motorcitymanman7711 wow.. great question... where are you flying from?

Every island has spots that look like a screen saver... maybe start with the keys first... then, your first couple nights at a decent resort in Jamaica and then check out and go on an adventure and figure out where to stay based on how the day goes and where you end up. Erroll Flynn and Ian Fleming loved Jamaica.

Is this the same John Curry that works at Sanderson Farms????

John Curry He fucking well EARNED his whipping boy status.

Probably is the best hitter. He's up there.

100% self inflicted.

He is the same as Shoeless Joe. He should have been banned from all Cincinnati events. The Reds screwed up by retiring his number in the first place...he was banned for life from baseball.

LOL.....Suuuuure he could 😁😁

He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.

James O'Connor I bet your one of the one of the people that thinks Bonds should be in the hall though

@James O'Connor my comment was made out of respect for his accomplishments , I guess he was the only one to ever do this , No , he got caught , I suppose you would fess right up if that was you ?? Sure you would . I just love the commentary from all the self proclaimed experts . It’s easy to judge others , I’m sure you know that . His accomplishments stand alone , I suppose Barry Bonds , Mark McGuire , etc are good role models ? Yes , he did in my opinion bet on baseball , but his accomplishments still stand . Were all human .

@@robertsr.249 Well said Brother! Pete may not be the best person ever. But damn the man loves baseball and he is the very deffination of how the game should be played. MLB is a Joke the Reds is a joke of an organization for they way they treat Mr. Rose.

Money, the MLB picks money

MLB is in the CASH$$$$ lane! Lot of smart guys in the MLB who should cut the sanctimony and let Pete on the field, in the dugout, and in spring training. The man is baseball. Baseball ain't baseball without Pete Rose.

Just because Pete Rose says it doesn't mean it's true. He lied about gambling on baseball games

@@stevegoehring1610 Just because he says what?

@@MrFrinZy anything. The fact that people actually believe anything he has to say at all is unbelievable to me. This man has been caught lying so many times I've lost count.

Winningest player in history

Why would u want a 78 year old delusional blow hard in your clubhouse? He's banned because he constantly lied for decades and now is spiteful. Great player but full of excuses and not an accountable man. Kinda sad

Nightrain76 it’s not the reds decision. The MLB says he can’t go on the field.

Carl Spackler Because at 78, he can still out hit anyone on a major league roster

@@klonidier it's not a lie if you believe it ... 😂

@@tacotom3492 who cares. Everyone lies. Some cheat. Some do both, yet they're still Abe to be coaches in the league. Foh with your crying.

more like 'what a douche.'

@@samueliam745 what have you accomplished in your life, i bet your a douche

@@summerwhite4796 you're*

@@sircjgentleman No, your. Because he douches. So, he's referring to his douche.

@@samueliam745 You shouldn’t talk about yourself that way!

He signed a contract to not bet on games. He screwed himself.

Combat Medic all he needed to do was admit his gambling incident and he’d be in the HOF

Well said>>>>

>>is the most knowledgeable ex player Phooey. Jerry Remy, alive and working in Baseball(TM) during the same period. ANY day of the week and TWICE for the Sunday double-header. Not just because I'm from Boston: there are very good reasons he worked FOR DECADES doing TV baseball "game commentary" (as in useful game and specific player details, not stupid Bovine Sewage). H E double toothpicks, I'd even almost take having to put up with Howard Cosell again if it meant I didn't have to listen to that speedfreak degenerate gambling serial liar. Remember: Giamatti tried to "let him up gently": turns out That Man had LIED to The Commish and was STILL LYING AFTERWARDS. Redemption requires true acceptance, about which as regards the specific reprobate in question I end as I started: phooey. Go RemDawg Go.

What he is awesome at is cheating.

John Bandera he sounds amazing for his age

Damn right

He’s delusional about his baseball crime‼️

He BET on baseball games WHILE he was playing, he knew it was wrong but he didn't CARE enough to not do it.....not like he needed the money. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!! Then he chooses to live in Vegas of all places!!!

Motorcityman Man The time has been done. Let the man into baseball.

He bet on games as a player and manager and had been lying about it for three decades. You realize that right?

Another casting stones!! You make me laugh, GOODY GOODY

@@fmgsr1 If you responded directly to what I said, I'd have more respect for you. Many people don't realize that this wasn't an isolated mistake, thirty years ago. As recently as 2015, a note book was surfaced confirming that Rose bet as a player -- a claim which he'd lied, and continues to lie about, to this day. In addition, it's not as if he made a single bet. He made ongoing bets for years.

He will never accept the fact that it is ENTIRELY of his own doing. And reading below, it is obvious that you tell your children it is OK to break the rules. Those other guys? Their fools, fuck them. Just don't get caught, and if you do blame someone else. Rules are for chumps, do what you want to, and screw the rules. He was a great hitter. Great fielder. Played his ass off. And broke the cardinal rule of baseball. And all I read below is he's a whipping boy, he got hosed, everyone does it, he should be in the hall of fame. Is that what you tell your kids? He was the greatest, he belongs in the HOF, fuck the rules.

Ex- Men - Um, yes it does. He's banned from baseball and MLB rules stipulate he can't be involved with any team, whether that's instructing minor leaguers or going into the club house. It's actually a pretty simple concept.

Doing what? Teaching them how to bet on the games? Showing them that rules don't apply to him, even though he knew the rules? Not hardly. Pete the prick is getting exactly what he asked for, and in my opinion, a whole lot more to deflate that huge ego that thinks he's better than anyone else. Bench said it right. Break the rules and pay the price. Tough luck, Gambling Pete. You seem to have cut your own throat.....

BS. There are plenty of other good hitters/coaches/mentors that do not have Rose's SELF-INDUCED baggage. This guy is out because he knowingly and repeatedly broke the rules and lied about it, even right to Commissioner Giamatti. Had Rose come clean to Giamatti, I'd have gone with it. But Rose didn't, and didn't for a LONG time after those meetings. I have no more time or patience for Rose than for the juicers who came after him and ruined the record books.

@@michaelmcgovern8110Perfectly said! I totally agree! 99.9% of people don’t agree with you and me.

@@bobjones8321 Put on a Peace sign, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Pitching discussions let slide til after Spring Training, says I. Or, if you've got nothing else to do, go read the 40% of Ted William's book "The Science of Hitting" that is about specific technique (and less about example players swings). Batter UP!

@@bobjones8321 Then put on a peace-sign tshirt, link arms with me, and we'll talk about hitting, especially beHIND the runner deep in the count with two outs. Forget pitching discussion til after Spring Training. If you've got nothing else to do, read the 40% of Ted William's "The Science of Hitting" that is specific to technique (feet, stride, hands, pitch selection, game situation, all of it) and not just player examples. TL;DR: Williams says: Hit their mistakes. You must be able to hit or foul off every pitch anywhere in the three-dimensional box that is your strike zone. Know what the pitcher can do. "I would practice until my hands had blisters, then I would practice until the blisters bled." That last one IS a close-enough quotation and I'm not going to go look it up. ;-].

PROBABLY the greatest hitter? IS the greatest hitter.

Bonds, Sosa, McGuire are smart enough to keep their damn mouths shut and not do stupid stuff in retirement. Pete just keeps "poking the bear" (MLB) with his whining and gambling. And when it came out that he had been having sex with a 14-year-old girl, he pretty much guaranteed that he will not get into the Hall Of Fame until he has been dead for many years...if, ever. Pete brought all of this on himself.

@@SomeJustice19k well some people would disagree with us, so never speak in absolutes.

@@timheidel5849 I agree he has brought stuff on himself. But it has nothing to do with his career!!!! If you and or they want to say he isnt in because of off field stuff then they need to take out half or more of Cooperstown because alot of those guys did crap that would far exceed anything Pete did... it's the baseball hall of fame, not the hall of nice guys!!!! Have to seperate douche thi gs from great play. I'm not even a reds fan just a baseball fan.

@@zachmitchell7696 4,000 hits with a dad bod, no roids, no modern training techniques and no modern medicine. What he did is incredible. Only other batter that I'd say MIGHT be better is Ichiro.

BTW, My great-grandmother managed to get to as many games as possible. I have very old autographs from Perez, Morgan, Griffey (Sr.) , and Foster. One more I can't think of for the life of me...initials Dl? Still...I WANT ROSE AND BENCH! I was C. Rolled with #8 for Yogi...sry Johnny! Just throwing it out there if anyone is listening. Still in the tri-state area! Trust me, none of you are forgotten! On field accomplishments are HoF criteria; not off-field decisions. ❤

*will

The title of this video's a total lie.

Ken Arthur couldn't have said better myself I grew up 50 miles from the ball park watching Pete play growing up was an absolute thrill no one attacked the game like he did

Craig O I agree He messed up, and he definitely won't get in as long as he's alive its really sad that he's that stubborn and continues to Gamble I grew up watching this guy play and it was a thrill being 50 miles from the stadium watching the Big Red machine are memories I'll never forget he was the leader played the game right. Your exactly right about fundamentals and hitting I hate that baseball has became what it is.i could listen to him talk baseball forever It's sad he could help the game so much. Sounds to me like it's the Reds decision to not let him on the field that surprises me a bit

Charlie Hussle

Baseball is run by a bunch of pansies. Look in the stands and see what liberalism does. People are tired of the powers that be screw up the game.

Needs Pete for what?

SHERLYNN JUNIOR he literally accepted that in this video... he said he was pissed off by the reds

Yeah but it’s not like he bet against the reds and told his team to lose like why that rule exists, he bet for his team to win, which is still bad but imo nowhere near taking roids or something

@@echozero8213 Don't ever try to minimize the corrupting effect of Rose's gambling. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/

@Michael Heathman ...Aren't we all...Everyone has dirty laundry to wash. That is why Jesus came to this Earth to save and forgive and only God can judge. Jesus is without blemish but we all have stains.

@Michael Heathman ...Some people play cards and dominoes and they take it real serious...as serious as cancer. Do you think it is just a card game...they have more than poker faces on.

@Michael Heathman If you were listening to the video. It is Pete Rose way" A street they named after him not anyrhing to do with his way or the highway or anything to do with Jesus is the way. It is simply a place. And as for Las Vegas it is a good place regardless what goes on there. Las Vegas is just like any other place in America. You will find hustlers and city slickers everywhere in any city. And yes Jesus is the way, the truth and the life but that is another subject and it is sinners who he came to save and forgive or did he come to save only the righteous. Pete Rose has been serving his life ban and he has been an example to others and others have learned from Pete Rose....He clearly admits his wrongs and gives his advice to others. Don't do it!

@Michael Heathman He saId Rose "IS" the HOF.......not "Rose is IN the HOF.

What is worse in Sports than throwing games? It doesn't matter how great he was as a player if he as manager threw games.

I don't believe that a competitor like Pete Rose threw ball games for money. It's not as if he was strapped for cash. He played the game to win, and he managed the game to win. What planet are you living on? Did you ever see the man play? He even ran to first base even after being walked. We're not talking about the Black Sox, who were persuaded to throw the World Series because they weren't making any money. There is no evidence that he ever bet against his team, so stop with the accusations.

Bobby Bobby google is your friend. Plenty of evidence he bet on his team WHILE playing.

@@joesmallwood9253 He bet on them to win.

@@joesmallwood9253 Yeah, bet ON his team, not against them. HUGE Difference there. Maybe not to the league, but to his credit anyway. When you bet against your team, you are a traitor who will give a lackluster effort in the game, and when you're the player manager as he was, you also have the opportunity to control the outcome substantially by mismanaging your team. Neither of which this guy ever did. Obviously some of the comments are from people not familiar with his play and didn't see him throughout his career. I'm not saying he didn't bet on baseball, but no way in hell did he ever bet against himself or his team and try to throw a game. That wouldn't at all be consistent with the guy who played the game for over 20 years and never gave less than everything he had.

Rose may have broken the record in one less season (although your numbers are off as Cobb played 24 seasons and Rose broke the record in his 23rd season), but Rose broke the record in his 3,476th career game and his 15,550th career plate appearance (if going by the official MLB record; if going by the record everyone but MLB goes by you can knock 2 games and 9 plate appearances off that total). Cobb played in just 3,034 career games and had just 13,099 career plate appearances, so Rose did not accomplish the feat sooner than Cobb.

I agree: MLB did Pete a favor when they shouldn't have. They should have kept him banned from the All Star game.

The best player of all time ? Lol

It sure is.

The Hall of Fame is a load of crap anyway. It's a group stroke-fest of ass-clowns who play buddy-buddy games. It hasn't been a REAL 'hall of fame' for the sport for 30 years. They can't recognize one of the best players to ever play the game? Doesn't sound like a hall of fame to me.

He may have your support, but he certainly does not belong in the Hall of Fame. He broke the cardinal rule of baseball. Just ask Johnny Bench. Enough said.

Look, another person that knows nothing of what they talk about. You do know that Cobb was not the hateful racist like the rumors state right? Every story of him being an outward racist and all-around asshole have been completely debunked as they were written by an author that has absolutely zero credibility and was fired from all of his journalism jobs for continually writing inaccurate stories. In fact, Cobb came from a long line of abolitionists in the south and welcomed the integration of baseball. Cobb wasn't a perfect person, but he was nowhere near as bad as the false narratives flying around say he is. Also, Rose was nowhere near the GOAT. Get out of here with your bullshit.

Alejandro Robles I like how there was only accusations and yet nothing has came from it and it’s 2019 gtfoh

a rod is a joke

Rose also didn’t bet on the Reds to win when Mario Soto was pitching. That gives bookies inside info and how do you know he wasn’t making decisions in the games he bet on the a reds to win just so he could win that bet that day? You’re obviously slow mentally but you need to know something

*out king

He's a lying arrogant prick.

No way, he lied for waaaay too long. He doesn't deserve to be in, he broke the golden rule of baseball. Even after he admitted he bet on baseball he kept on lying about betting on his own team. Let him in after he dies

Yeah, he admitted to it after lying about it for 15 years and did so just so he could sell his book. Time to continue keeping him out for thinking he was bigger than the game.

Exactly they want bonds in the hall of fame, even tho he cheated and did worse things then rose did

Maybe 100 year after everyone who was alive in 1986 dies

It's going to be a while. Maybe 50 years, but one day he and Joe Jackson will get in.

Sounds like baseball is using the Government's way of doing things. Wait until everyone dies that cares before you reveal anything such as who killed JFK.

No, they really won't

Not only that but I think his two biggest strikes were not just betting on baseball, but betting on his own team (he claims he always bet on them to win, seems shady, no way to verify), and he agreed to a lifetime ban. That is like the criminal that accepts a plea deal complaining about it after the fact. I respect what he did as a player, and I've seen him talk, he is a funny guy, but as a person he seems to have major flaws.

Total BS. Yez he gambled, was he wrong to do that yes. Have you ever made a poor choice in life? Show me a human being who HASENT and I'll jump tl the moon for you. Unless those mistakes hurt someone else or someone else's property then why are you making a big deal outnof him gambling. As much as he loves baseball, loves his team and players and fans. Do you really think he would bet against his team and mess up a game on purpose over some money? He was already rich.. he made a mistake. He deserves to be in the hall of fame while he is living. You got roid heads and cheaters in there but Pete gambled so he is shunned? Get real. Do you know how much food it woukd do fkr the game and how much excitement and media stir it would bring if Pete was allowed to manage a major league team? Ppl need to get off their high horse and stop condemning the man. Over GAMBLING. This is so stupid it's unreal he's paid the price and it sets a precedent already to anyone thinking about doing that again.. right is right and wrong is wrong. Opinions though are like ass holes. . How does anyone love baseball and not support rose for the hall of fame? Even if you disliked the man's lifestyle and all his whoring around when married and everything else. That's between him and God and has nothing to do with his baseball accomplishments and by the way all those records. He didn't need ROIDS. For like the cheaters do

@@joshdavis3743 Gamblers usually owe money to really nasty people. Rose gambled big money. When he was in a nasty hole, I'm sure Rose figured betting on his own team (an outcome he could easily manipulate, especially as coach) was a great way to make sure he didn't get his legs broken. Rose broke baseball's most sacred rule: No Gambling. Bye, Pete.

@robertgates5164..How many lies have you told in your lifetime ? Do you still cheat on your wife ?

​@@robertlosasso4222 It is the constant lying that hurt Rose. First he lied about gambling at all. Then admitted gambling on baseball but not the Reds. Then bet on them to win as a manager. He is an addict and no way to know how long he was gambling on baseball. Add in the fact he had questionable associates. People associated with organized crime. Baseball did not want to have another situation where baseball was in control of organized crime or the mob. The mob at this point was still around. Throw in fact that he cannot remember if girl he slept with was legal age. Even tho imo 16 is still too young. Throw in fact every deal he has had to potentially get in he has scuttled. One of which would have kept him out of prison, got his gambling debts forgiven, and eventually let him in. The man multiple times had 6 figure gambling debt. Now I do hold MLB to some extent just as culpable. They knew he was a heavy gambler even as far back as when he came in to MLB

I used to think that way. Now I see why he's upset and it makes perfect sense.

Sure: let's put into the Hall a guy who NOW admits he played most of his career on speed (do "Mr. Hustle" and his on-field bizarre behaviors make more sense now?) and gambled on baseball, even on games he played in. Sure:. teach our kids that nobody cares if you break the rules as long as you succeed. That kind of [excrement] gets us garbage like Trump.

Would not won game7. against RedSox wout Petes baserunning skills deep in game!

@ Robbie I would like to know how everybody knows which way he threw his bets ? Pete would never bet to lose , do I think he bet on baseball , yes ,do I think he bet on the reds ,yes , do I think he bet on them to lose , where he could influence the outcome , NO ! The newspapers here had the entire expose with alleged names of bookies , fixers , etc , I think John Dowd filled in the blanks with the answers he was told to use , I live in cincy and read and watched all this bullshit transpire and anyone with a single brain cell could tell not all , but some of this was fabricated , Regards Robert

@@robertsr.249 hi..I think it is a given that he did bet on the reds to lose at times..remember rose accepted banishment from baseball so the Dowd report would not be released...think about it...he of course backed out of his deal and lied for 20 yrs after....

@@robbie192 It's the equivalent of opting out of taking the breathalyzer test when a cop pulls you over, and taking the voluntary suspension of license, cuz you know you're gonna be caught.

@@giantsfan7733 well, I may disagree..Pete got the Dowd report secret..baseball never released it to the public..he kept his image and many still say he never bet on his team or his team to lose.

@Robbie I still think John Dowd put down what he was directed to , Have you ever heard of fabricated evidence , The bigger the pile , the worst it smells , bet ,yes , bet on the reds ? Yes , bet on them to lose ,? Where he could influence it ? No ! He was told to shut up about it for future consideration , As an added note I graduated from the same high school as Pete

I'm not so sure. I believe he's sneaky bright............

@@frankiesparks2868 💯

SPEED made him Charlie Hustle. FFS.

Epitomizes the game, doesn't it!

The steroid era wasnt even that bad. The baseball was great and exciting. The best hitters vs some of the best pitchers ever.

@@tokeypokey I agree the steroid era was exciting, but damaged the integrity of the game more than Pete Rose.

@Scot Ashley Sexton from what I’ve seen , the only time MLB will let him around is when there is money to be made for MLB , like some of the ceremonies in Cincinnati .

I think we only have Pete's word that he bet for his team and he's always lied when it helped his cause.

Pete lost big money to gamblers. Gamblers will sell their children to keep going. Did he over-use a closer? Did he rest a closer a few games to load up for a game he thought he could win? Who knows what he did to his lineup as a direct result of gambling.

Also, I don't think most of the public knows about betting the run lines. One last thing, most ball clubs have a defensive specialist. A guy who comes into a game in the later innings. I'm sure Pete didn't use those guys if he had a chance to win a bet.

Don't EVER try to justify what Rose did. www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/08/why-pete-rose-still-cant-be-absolved/378866/

He did bet as a player though. There is conclusive proof that he bet on games while he was a player-manager, so your logic goes right out the window. Good try though.

Roman Randolph Pete was still playing in 1986? No way he would have been 45 in 86, usually far to old to still play MLB

Roman Randolph Pete was still playing in 1986? No way he would have been 45 in 86, usually far to old to still play MLB

@@beholden1663 Yes way. Rose played 1B/MGR 1985-87 then only MGR up to 1989.

jbstonesfan he did something that was wrong and he knew it it’s the same thing if you let Sammy Sosa and Barry bonds in the hall of fame because they both did something they know they shouldn’t have

Cody Croy but they can still go into the parks

@@codycroy9597 no one is talking about letting him in the Hall. Those cheaters you mentioned are all still allowed to coach and work in baseball. Hell McGuire coached the team he cheated for. Pete should be allowed to work in baseball.