I got saved listening to a hyper Calvinist radio station back when i was 19 yrs old listening to the old recording's of spencer, martin loyd jones, pink, james montgomery boice and the rest, i got to the point where i had to leave that bunch where they obviously corrected the book and at age 21 heard Dr. Ruckman's video on " basic Manuscript evidence " and audios like this one on Calvinism and the Doc was definitely the best teacher the Lord sent me to listen to ...at age 42 now, this is what still makes youtube worth it...thank you for posting this
At 15:40 is he says "This is the system, unconditional election which means God elects without any purpose" I'm sorry but this is nonsense and is not what Reformed teach...For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Ephesians 2:10...This verse is one of the purposes Reformed teach for why God elects...I'm sorry but you can't take this guy serious. He really butchers and misrepresents Reformed teaching.
He also says Calvin had Servetus burned at the stake, the man was already condemned to be burned at the stake by the Catholic Church and the State Council ruled that he was to be burned...it was a a complicated historical case but it seems ironic a Protestant would charge Calvin in the Servetus case which is one of the ways Catholics argue against Protestantism.
I'm loving how the Lord is leading me to these teachers. I grew up in a church that teaches TULIP and it never sat well with me. I can't help but feel calvanists to be prideful and its a faith plus works... you have to prove your saved by doing what the denomination says. I'm a simple Bible believer a sinner and I'm so thankful for the finished work of Christ. You don't know how free you are until you realize there is nothing we can do but surrender believe and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.
then..... You MUST be one chosen by God... no one feeling as you do cannot be.... All Calvinists believe they are sinners saved by grace... but as a Calvinist...perhaps another word for a Calvinist is "WOKE"... we understand our condition and we know who we are... I also believe that not everyone who "thinks".. they are saved will feel as YOU do..(I am a simple bible believer and sinner) .many believe they are saved... but do not realize their own depravity apart from God.. or their need apart from God..... those who do Not understand their depravity and their need for God.. are Not Christians IMO...
@@jeffcarlson3269 I don't believe God chose some and cast others to hell. Our free will by weather or not we trust and believe and love the Lord determines where we go. Christ died for all, but not all accept that. I do not believe a denominational church can "excomunicate" members from the body of Christ . I understand many calvanist will be saved and are saved.. I however don't agree with election etc.
@@charyeomans3579 but .... who determines our free will?.. Proverbs 16:33... The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the Lord. does this not tell us that the outcome of our Lot.. is determined by God?.. we are shown the choices... but God.. determines the finality.. whether wish to think so or Not... we Only have free will c according to what God gives us.. our Lot.. is already pre chosen by God... also Proverbs 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. is this not given to us by God..? what about.. the Pharaoh of Moses' day?.. does Not the bible say.. in several places that the Pharaoh hardened his own heart.. and at some point you will see in several instances God hardened Pharaoh's heart. .I counted them at one point and studied this... if I remember Pharaoh hardened his own heart arount 9 times... but God then hardened Pharaohs heart 5 times.... so Yes God does determine some tpo go to hell.. we are no better than the Pharaoh.. and we are Not above.. Justifying Himself thru the condemnation of those.. who harden their hearts to Him...
@@jeffcarlson3269 the Lord knew from the beginning who would accept His free gift ... He gave Adam and Eve a free will.. obey or eat of the tree... they chose to eat, thus facing the consequence. We today don't know who will accept the free gift at what age or stage in life... thus we are told to share the Gospel. We can't don't nor shouldn't assume one to be saved or unsaved based on works or the church they attend ect. But God knows who does because He is God and knows all things from beginning to end. Also the kjv tells us to rightly devide. There are dispensations and God dealt with each diff but all can be saved if we choose to accept the gift. Isreal and the Church are not the same thing. Isreal is the elected nation.. always will be. But the church doesn't replace Isreal.. etc.
@@tomingram9982The falling away is SYNERGISM. Salvation is 100% of the LORD. 2 Thess 2:10-15 " And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
@@tomingram9982 the falling away is SYNERGISM, which Ruckman is teaching. See these verses- 2 THESS 2:10-15 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. ****** But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle." You didn't choose GOD, God chose YOU!
Ruckman seems to have done an excellent job on this topic. It is better than I expected. I thought this topic was too simple to be interesting. This video was a pleasant surprise.
Someone did some politically correct editing. Thought the audio recording was faulty but it only happened when he called sin what it is, SIN! Great message as always! Thanks!
Yeah, pretty aggressively too I thought. Not only unnecessary altogether, and fairly aggressive(the word "queer" is offensive??), but seemed to be done in a dishonest manner, pretending like there was some sort of technical glitch. Give me a break.
Didn't pretend anything, deleted out single words, from context you can tell exactly what he is saying. Deleted to avoid some kind of search engine that flag certain words like queer
@@timchess2313 AI content pruning makes sense. I hadn't considered that and I'm sorry I was a bit harsh. Politically correct language and the constant catering to every sexual abnormality in our culture are things I have little patience for. Thank you for explaining!
@@paul125 yeah it is cultural battle that we have seem to have lost to this point. I have seen a message by Dr Ruckman called "Star Spangled Sodmts" but don't ever remember listening to it. Was thinking to try and hear it and then post it uncut and just let it rip, atleast that is what I feel like doing sometimes but don't know if it would be wise. The Bible says "fight the good fight of faith" and I'm not sure that is a good fight I am supposed engage in. One thing I was just thinking of is that " pride goes before destruction, and a hauty spirit before a fall" so with all the parades being held to justify and be proud of sin instead of repenting and being sorry for sin they should be ripe for destruction and a fall. Hopefully the whole nation won't have to go down like S & G , or atleast if it does we can escape via rapture like Lot escaped before destruction. May we all as individual Christians do what God would have us to do to stand in the evil day.
Amen, praise the Lord that you received a blessing. Jesus said in Mt. 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Peter Ruckman was a pro-abortion. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VRcWAh21rk8.html The man does nothing but spew hate and promote murder
@@caleb4015 spent 3 yrs at his school and church. Don't remember him talking about abortion. And if he did he sure didn't emphasize it. I have heard him once on audio denouncing it. If I come across it again will post it. Eat the meat, spit the bones.
Finally someone in the Church that has common sense and tells it like it is. We need teachers like this today. Calvinism is travelling like Cancer in all Churches. TRUTH IN LOVE
Saying "Truth in love" after saying, "Calvinism is travelling like Cancer in all Churches" is suspect. Cancer doesn't "spread". Infectious diseases do. :P Also, I'm a Calvinist, because of the practice of Exegeting scripture. For example, John 3:1-15. Nicodemus, an Israelite teacher, is NOT born again. To be born again, you need the cleansing waters and Holy Spirit. Ezekiel 36:22-27, the cleansing waters will be providing by God and God will put the Spirit within His people. Thus, we can't come to God on our own. We NEED God, to come to God.
@@FabledNarrative Ok let me re phrase it. Calvinism IS CANCER travelling through the true church of God! Your a Calvinist because you refuse to be a Christian! A Christian says I follow Christ! A Calvinist says I follow a man The murderous John Calvin! John Calvin’s Bodycount… The victims are listed, followed by references, (A)…(L), the URLs of which are at the bottom. A. Execution 1. Jacques Gruet (A)”Thus the State issued dogmatic decrees, the force of which had been anticipated earlier, as when Jacques Gruet, a known opponent of Calvin, was arrested, tortured for a month and beheaded on July 26, 1547, for placing a letter in Calvin’s pulpit calling him a hypocrite. Gruet’s book was later found and burned along with his house while his wife was thrown out into the street to watch.” (C)”Calvin cut off the head of Jacques Gruet “for having written impious letters, libertine verses, and for working to overthrow ecclesiastical ordinances.” (D)Quoting Stephan Zweig’s “The Right to Heresy”: “Jacques Gruet was racked and then executed merely for having called Calvin a hypocrite.” (E)”This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as ‘Libertines’, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force. Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and, best known, Michael *Servetus (1553).” (F)”Even eminent men were not safe from Calvin’s control. Jacques Gruet was beheaded for blasphemy, treason, and a threat to the ministers.” (J) 2. Giovanni Valentino Gentile (A)and(G)”Another victim of Calvin’s fiery zeal was Gentile of an Italian sect in Geneva, which also numbered among its adherents Alciati and Gribaldo. More or less Unitarian in their views, they were required to sign a confession drawn up by Calvin in 1558. Gentile signed it reluctantly, but in the upshot he was condemned and imprisoned as a perjurer. He escaped only to be twice incarcerated at Berne where, in 1566, he was beheaded.” (H) & (I) Very full accounts of Gentile 3. Michael Servetus Is much needed about him? Is there any debate about his murder? (A) (C)”Seven years before the conference which was now to take place in Calvin’s house on the proposals of the queen-mother, Michel Servet, a Frenchman, travelling through Switzerland, was arrested at Geneva, tried, condemned, and burned alive, on Calvin’s accusation, for having “attacked the mystery of the Trinity,” in a book which was neither written nor published in Geneva.” (E)(J) 4. Raoul Monnet (E) (J)page 223 “This regime was resisted by a party incorrectly described as “Libertines, which Calvin succeeded in overcoming by force.Among the opponents executed after torture were Jacques Gruet (1547), Raoul Monnet (1549), and best known, Michael Servetus (1553). By 1555, however, all resistance had ceased and Calvin was the uncontested master of the city.” 5. Others (A)”Calvin also had twenty women burned at the stake after accusing them of causing a plague that had swept through Geneva in 1545.” (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” (F)”A heretic who also was an anti-Trinitarian was burned at the stake.” NOTE: Probably Servetus B. Banishment (mere banishment!) 1. Castellio (A)”Gruet’s death was more highly criticized by far than the banishment of Castellio or the penalties inflicted on Bolsec - moderate men opposed to extreme views in discipline and doctrine, who fell under suspicion as reactionary.” (B) (K) Very full account of Castellio 2. Bolsec (A)(B)(F)”Jerome Bolsec, a physician who attacked Calvin’s doctrine of predestination, was banished.” (L) 3. Others (A)”Calvin did not shrink from his self-appointed task. Within five years fifty-eight sentences of death and seventy-six of exile, besides numerous committals of the most eminent citizens to prison, took place in Geneva.” A. www.biblelife.org/calvinism.htm B. www.gospeltruth.net/heres…_chap5.htm C. www.worldwideschool.org/l…hap16.html D. www.dimensional.com/~randl/calvin.htm E. www.gospelcom.net/chi/HER…l047.shtml F. www.churchlink.com.au/chu…alvin.html G. www.newadvent.org/cathen/03195b.htm H. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…xv.xiv.htm I. online.sksm.edu/ouh/chapter/13_XIII.html J. The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church; F.L. Cross and E.A. Livingstone; Oxford University Press; K. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc….xv.ix.htm (different page from H) L. www.ccel.org/s/schaff/hcc…v.viii.htm John Calvin is a man who is held up by many evangelicals as an example of the most perfect systematic theologian that ever lived. And yet it would appear that he did not even meet the basic requirements of a NT overseer/bishop as to godly character! 1 Tim 3:2 An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. The New Testament approach to false teachers is the precise opposite of what Calvin’s modus operandi was: 2 Tim 2:24 The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25 with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26 and they may come to their senses {and escape} from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. As to the relationship of his doctrine to his practice, as he plainly taught that everything that happens is God’s will (I can provide the quotes if you would like), then it necessarily follows that he considered everything he did as God’s will, even having his detractors beheaded, burned at the stake, or banished. I’m saying that one’s theology inevitably works out in one’s practice, and this was all too apparent in the life of John Calvin. If I had someone who disagreed with my theology put to death (had I the political power Calvin had), would I be qualified to teach the Word of God? One’s actions don’t have any bearing on the authenticity of one’s teaching? It seems to me that we should hold ANY theologian to the same moral standard as any other teacher in the body of Christ. TRUTH IN LOVE
@@FabledNarrative I’m trying to understand your reasoning as to how those passages prove Calvinism. Those who reject Calvinism also believe that the Holy Spirit causes us to be born again but we don’t believe you have to be born again to believe in Christ. The Holy Spirit is given to those who believe. That’s what the bible says.
@@FabledNarrative I've noticed one of the key words you Calvinists say a lot of is "exegesis", it's like you all have a common teacher of heresies, and it's not the word of God...
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
World is Cosmos, it means an orderly arrangement, not everyone. So is an adverb telling how or in what fashion. Love is Agape, that we walk after the commandments of the Father. Definition is everything.
@@HOWBAZARY beautiful way of correcting God's word to make it say what you want. God's word says "For God so loved the WORLD...". We don't correct God's word, God's word corrects us. "The world" means everyone as a whole.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 We are shown grace through our faith to believe in the finished work on the cross, belief is not a work, grace is the gift, there is no boasting as Christ fulfilled everything. All we need do is trust and believe on Jesus.
Thank you for uploading this it’s so valuable. I like how Ruckman explains about repentance before being made alive in Christ. Calvinists put the cart before the horse. Newly subbed and many thanks for your work on this channel 👍
God bless and all glory to God, and we all know the big attraction on this channel is Jesus's blood bought child and laborer in word and doctrine, PSR. AV1611. Even so come Lord Jesus!
It's also an opportunity that God has given by grace. The Spirit convicts of sin but doesn't force the response to it. When we are honest about our nature, God opens up to us because we will our attention to it, it is a humbling revelation.
I wish Dr. Ruckman had heard of the doctrine of divine providence provided by Molinism. He is so close to it without even knowing about it. Dr. Vance touches on it in his work The Other Side of Calvinism.
@@hondotheology Even if you think it is, the point still stands that Dr. Ruckman was very close in his language to a Molinist view of divine Providence and sovereignty and his own student Dr. Vance proposes it in his work The Other Side of Calvinism, which he Dr. Ruckman touted as a definitive work.
@ 10:41 Peter: "The irresistible force is the Holy Spirit. Meaning an immovable object, the dead the sinner." To think...for a moment...that God could not move a dead man to life. To even compare man to God...such hubris, such arrogance.
Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, that was his purpose. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the WORLD through him MIGHT be saved. It us God's will to save the world, but they might be saved because they also have a choice in the matter. Matthew 23:37 (KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
God CAN do anything he wants. He CHOOSES to ALLOW us to be His children, and CHOOSE to obey Him. What a viciously wicked dictator god Calvinists must worship!
57:20 “The biggest lie you ever heard was a half truth” sometimes the biggest liars are those who spend their lives accusing others of lying. Food for thought.
Sounds like Satan to me. It's too bad that some people can't see the genius in his teaching and refuse to humble themselves in favor of their pride. It was never fair though, Dr. Ruckman read more books in a year than the rest have in a decade.
@@JamesBrown-fd1nv There is no question that he was a very intelligent and smart man, and he made sure to let everyone know that. But he was also given to exaggeration, overstatement, lying, and manipulation. Those who are/were mesmerized by his genius fail to see his negative attributes.
@@Notworthy72 Hey glass house person. Expound on where he was lying etc... I would say throwing mud with no evidence is one of your negative attributes. Come on hot shot. Dazzle us with your bible knowledge and rebuke Ruckman if he's wrong. I'll wait.... But I'll put my money on that you are just what Jesus spoke about in Matthew 23: 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. 14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
@@fourltrman Something tells me that even objective and documented evidence would not persuade you to change your mind about Ruckman and his misrepresentations, and yes lies, about those with whom he disagrees. If you desire to know whether he is telling the truth or not, I would challenge you to check out his claims against the beliefs and words of those whom he opposes. I believe you will find that he was far from honest or fair. Quite the opposite. He was deceptive and manipulative.
Backward salvation is the religion of the Seventh day Adventist as they are a mixture of hyper Calvisim, Catholicism, and all sorts. Pensacola Bible Institute use to have a field day with visiting Adventists; Campellites etc.
@@tomboyraider1015 This happens to a lot of theology. Once a person or group fails to rightly divide, the doctrines and teachings become a big hot mess. An example can be found on the mantle of every Catholic in South America, where they have Mary, Buddha, and a bunch of contradictory idols side by side.
Either something I don't support, or something I thought would cause me to be silenced by you tube. Yes I do edit the videos before I post them, mainly to avoid getting shut down
@@timchess2313 You either present something 100% or you don't at all. What are you afraid of? Getting shut down. Not much of a Daily Cross if you are censoring yourself.
never new about calvinism's beliefs,kinda like jahovas witnessess 12,000 i reckon ....thank you dr. ruckman....see you in heaven...i believe in JESUS CHRIST
Amen, birds of a feather flock together, all heresy and cults usually are off on Christ's person ( His Diety, God manifest in the flesh) and/or his work of redemptionon, the completed once and for all substitutionary payment for our sins on the cross and that salvation is by grace through faith without works in Christ alone.
@@timchess2313 seems like today in ‘church circles’ more ppl are deceived with works based salvation than not. Makes me wonder how many are truly saved, if they’re trusting in themselves to keep from sinning. I know one woman that thinks she doesn’t sin Yet she’s the nastiest person towards her husband and she has zero grace or forgive for anyone who offends her. She actually is into the Saturday worship and says Jesus isn’t Jesus name. But yahushah. And she never shares the gospel. Never soul wins. Never opens her mouth to the lost. And Durante pray for anyone unless inside her clutches of control. It’s all hokey to me. I left the ‘friendship’ because God told me her she’d destroy me.
@@AyeWitness It's simple we have the clear words of Jesus "go and sin no more" which proves it is possible, furthermore since Jesus was fully man and wasn't "totally depraved" his very life refutes Calvinist idiocy, and we know that even if we do sin, because we WILL, his shed blood redeems us in the eyes of the Father the instant we REPENT (more WILL) and turn back to the straight and narrow path. It just seems that all Calvinists must be the "spiritually weak" Paul spoke about not understanding his writings.
If you pray for a sick person to be positively healed, rather than for God to make it possible for them to be healed, then you are already more Calvinist than you may know.
I find it notable that Ruckman cited to Exodus 3:19. "I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand." That verse explains God omniscience. Ruckman then skips all the way to Exodus 8:32. “And Pharaoh hardened his heart at this time also, neither would he let the people go.” His conclusion is that God did not predestinate Pharaoh's actions. Ruckman claims that it was Pharaoh who hardened his own heart and God did not predestinate the hardening of Pharaoh's heart. Ruckman makes that argument by skipping over and not mentioning Exodus 4:21. God told Moses before he even returned to Egypt that he would harden Pharaoh’s heart against the children of Israel so that Pharaoh would not let them go. “And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.” (Exodus 4:21 AV) Exodus 4:21 impeaches Ruckman's Arminian gospel. The problem with Ruckman’s Arminian analysis is that he purposely overlooked a key passage (Exodus 4:21) that clearly states that it was God who planned ahead of time to harden Pharaoh’s heart. If Ruckman is the bible expert that he claims to be, that would mean that his failure to mention Exodus 4:21 was purposeful. It seems he has avoided Exodus 4:21, because it impeaches his Arminian theology. Edward Hendrie Author of "The Anti-Gospel"
@@brianc81 God hardened Pharaoah's heart because of what he did, the way I see it he didn't just harden his heart just because he could. God did it through his actions. You got to look at it in a different perspective.
@@chair91212 God also hardened Pharoah's heart (read all the scriptures, not just some), while Pharoah hardened his own heart being a vessel of dishonor fitted to destruction! (Romans 9:11-23)
Chuck Missler is good and I have been attracted to his teaching in the past but he is not a KJV Bible Believer or was not at the time I was listening to him in the 90’s - It doesn’t mean you can’t get something from him but a Real KJV Bible believer like Gene Kim or Sam Gipp or Brian Donovan (Pensacola, FL) or Ruckman will have a lot more to give you in my opinion. God bless. Check out Don Nesbitt’s You Tube channel as he has much good Bible believing ( KJV) teachings and preachings. But most importantly be in the word yourself so that you can compare what you are being taught by men against what God’s word says in the Bible. Acts 17:11
@@timchess2313 good comment 👍 It’s hard to find KJB only and I agree with what you have said. I’ve got a Ruckman study Bible and it’s really helped me. Leighton Flowers does a good job against Calvinism but again not KJB only as most Americans use ESV.
17:40”God can use a Calvinist in spite of his Calvinist .” Sounds like something a Calvinist would affirm. Lol. Not to mention the Hermeneutic of reading what King Artaxerxes writes for Ezra as a doctrinal point of free-will. That is so misleading.
Seeing that you don't know who's on first tells me that you don't study as much as you just read. Just because God can "use" something doesn't mean that he "wills" it, he periodically intervenes just as Satan did in Job's life.
That is because narrow is the way that leads unto life, and few there be that find it. God's plan and intention and desire was to reconcile the whole world, but unfortunately only a few went along with his plan. 2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV) To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
@@kingstund101 Amen ! Repent means a changing of the mind. Turning away from something and turning towards God. Remember when Moses lifted up the bronze serpent ? All those that had been bitten by asps just had to LOOK....and they would be healed....No work involved other than LOOKING.
@@patcola7335 It is ALWAYS about the "will". Abstaining is a decision that you make, Coveting is a decision that you make. If you think of "works" as a physical act like killing a sacrifice, then it doesn't fit into the grace only church age. But remember that, "I will ascend above..." is how sin began, and that is a thought! As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he,...Proverbs 23:7 Calvin and the majority of Christians have a problem with understanding the Bible because they have the beginning of sin and time wrong. If we say that God controls the will of his creatures then that means he created beings just to condemn them. If he does not control the will then the created beings are capable of making their own decisions, and judgement remains just. When it says that God is not willing that any should perish, it means that he is not causing any to perish. Jonah tried to avoid God's will for his life, but God intervened in his life, he didn't overpower his will. Calvinism is just as debilitating as all unBiblical doctrine, and it guarantees that exegesis will be wrong.
Many of Ruckmans lecturers at Bob Jones may well have ended up at Seventh day Adventist theological seminaries. What amazes me, is the large flow of lazy Baptist preachers ending up in these cults. I know of several and have had words with them about their descent into Hyper Calvinism and wrong doctrine. One ex Baptist preacher just brushed it off and said to me, he had wasted his years in the Baptist pulpit. Now with his lifestyle with the mega cult of Adventism, he along with other a keynote speakers in big conferences. Tragedy
I know that what was said is a bunch of bull I grew up that would give yours a run for the money, alcoholic step father never starved,but I wasn't saved even after I started going to Church after I was Baptised I never new JESUS CHRIST as my SAVIOR as I know him now now I witness to people I hand out tracts and now being older I don't worry of the joys of youth but the closer I'm to Glory the better I like it AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
The only time that God imposes his WILL over anyone else's is when he is executing judgement. When Lucifer sinned in Heaven, God cast him out into outer darkness, God cannot sojourn with sin. When the anti-christ wants to be worshipped on God's thrown,
@@jiwbink I’m sorry. I was being sarcastic. My original post was a bit of sarcasm concerning the way Ruckman & his followers view him. I think your response proves my point
@@Over-for-now you are right about that, but also God did gift men with teaching ability and knowledge of his word to be a blessing to and to edify(build up) the body of believers.
A "prideful" one. Glad this amazing preacher was brave enough to call it out when it was being protected even back then. I've never heard of this man but he sure does know the Bible.
🔴🔴 Appendix III The Meaning of "Kosmos" in John 3:16 It may appear to some of our readers that the exposition we have given of John 3:i6 in the chapter on "Difficulties and Objections" is a forced and unnatural one, inasmuch as our definition of the term "world" seems to be out of harmony with the meaning and scope of this uword in other passages, where, to supply the world of believers (God's elect) as a definition of "world" would make no sense. Many have said to us, "Surely, 'world' means world, that is, you, me, and everybody." In reply we would say: We know from experience how difficult it is to set aside the "traditions of men" and come to a passage which we have heard explained in a certain way scores of times, and study it carefully for ourselves without bias. Nevertheless, this is essential if we would learn the mind of God. Many people suppose they already know the simple meaning of John 3:i6, and therefore they conclude that no diligent study is required of them to discover the precise teaching of this verse. Needless to say, such an attitude shuts out any further light which they otherwise might obtain on the passage. Yet, if anyone will take a Concordance and read carefully the various passages in which the term "world" (as a translation of "kosmos") occurs, he will quickly perceive that to ascertain the precise meaning of the word "world" in any given passage is not nearly so easy as is popularly supposed. The word "kosmos," and its English equivalent "world," is not used with a uniform significance in the New Testament. Very far from it. It is used in quite a number of different ways. Below we will refer to a few passages where this term occurs, suggesting a tentative definition in each case: 1. "Kosmos" is used of the Universe as a whole: Acts I7:24-- "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that He is Lord of heaven and earth." 2. "Kosmos" is used of the earth: John I3:1 ; Eph. I:4, etc., etc.-- "When Jesus knew that His hour was come that He should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved His own which were in the world He loved them unto the end." "Depart out of this world" signifies, leave this earth. "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world." This expression signifies, before the earth was founded-compare Job 38:4 etc. 3. "Kosmos" is used of the world-system: John I2:31 etc. "Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the Prince of this world be cast out-"-compare Matt. 4:8 and 1 John 5:19, R. V. 4. "Kosmos" is used of the whole human race: Rom. 3:19, etc.-- "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God." 5. "Kosmos" is used of humanity minus believers: John I5:i8; Rom. 3:6-- "If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you." Believers do not "hate" Christ, so that "the world" here must signify the world of unbelievers in contrast from believers who love Christ. "God forbid: for then how shall God Judge the world." Here is another passage where "the world" cannot mean "you, me, and everybody," for believers will not be "judged" by God, see John 5:24. So that here, too, it must be the world of unbelievers which is in view. 6. "Kosmos" is used of Gentiles in contrast from Jews: Rom. 11:12 etc. "Now if the fall of them (Israel) be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them (Israel) the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their (Israel's) fulness." Note how the first clause in italics is defined by the latter clause placed in italics. Here, again, "the world" cannot signify all humanity for it excludes Israel! 7. "Kosmos" is used of believers only: John 1:29; 3:16, 17; 6:33; I2:47; 1 Cor. 4:9; 2 Cor. 5:19. We leave our readers to turn to these passages, asking them to note, carefully, exactly what is said and predicated of "the world" in each place. Thus it will be seen that "kosmos" has at least seven clearly defined different meanings in the New Testament. It may be asked, Has then God used a word thus to confuse and confound those who read the Scriptures? We answer, No! nor has He written His Word for lazy people who are too dilitary, or too busy with the things of this world, or, like Martha, so much occupied with "serving"," they have no time and no heart to "search" and "study" Holy Writ! Should it be asked further, But how is a searcher of the Scriptures to know which of the above meanings the term "world" has in any given passage? The answer is: This may be ascertained by a careful study of the context, by diligently noting what is predicated of "the world" in each passage, and by prayerfully consulting other parallel passages to the one being studied. The principal subject of John 3:16 is Christ as the Gift of God. The first clause tells us what moved God to "give" His only begotten Son, and that was His great "love;" the second clause informs us for whom God "gave" His Son, and that is for, "whosoever (or, better, 'every one') believeth;" while the last clause makes known why God "gave" His Son (His purpose), and that is, that everyone that believeth "should not perish but have everlasting life." That "the world" in John 3:i6 refers to the world of believers (God's elect), in contradistinction from "the world of the ungodly" (2 Pet. 2:5), is established, unequivocally established, by a comparison of the other passages which speak of God's "love." "God commendeth His love toward US"--the saints, Rom. 5:8. "Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth"--every son, Heb. I2:6. "We love Him, because He first loved US"--believers, 1 John 4:19. The wicked God "pities" (see Matt. 18:33). Unto the unthankful and evil God is "kind" (see Luke 6:35). The vessels of wrath He endures "with much long-suffering" (see Rom. 9:22). But "His own" God "loves"!! If you want truth concerning salvation go on Instagram Unbiased_grace The_sovereignty_of_God Studies_in_the_word New_eternal_covenant Election_of_grace Or Facebook Ben Eliyahu Yeshua Harrison Or Rudy Harrison
This chap is a Baptist, of the KJV 1611 independent Bible believing Baptist type, he went on to be with the Lord a few years ago but we can still be blessed by his teaching and preaching through audios and videos. His materials may be purchased from Bible Baptist Bookstore in Pensacola, Florida. He was a champion of the Authorized KJV 1611 Bible translated under King James of England in 1611. He taught that this was the preserved word of God without proven error for the English speaking world and the paper pope and final authority for Bible truth, doctrines, and upon any subject it addresses. Absolute time (big ben), absolute heat flow ( BTU,British Thermal Unit) and absolute location (prime meridian is at Greenwich, England), and absolute truth AV 1611 Holy Bible come from England.
@@timchess2313 is he a dispensationalist too. Thank you for your response. Im betting that people in 1611 probably talked/sounded a little different as compared to now. But yeah I know what you mean - the purest translation would be the first edition English bible.
At 15:40 is he says "This is the system, unconditional election which means God elects without any purpose" I'm sorry but this is nonsense and is not what Reformed teach...For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Ephesians 2:10...This verse is one of the purposes Reformed teach for why God elects...I'm sorry but you can't take this guy serious.
Once a person believes they become elect to be conformed unto Christ’s image, but his point is that unconditional election is completely Gods choice without any regard to a man’s choice, but in the Bible God elects according to foreknowledge, not unconditionally. He elects those who chose the believe the Gospel, not arbitrarily or unconditionally. Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
@@timchess2313 well that's a simple explanation of each view (but that has nothing to do with the very specific point that I was making by pointing out that the presenter was claiming that Reformed teach that no purpose exists for the election when in fact they do offer reasons why God elects thus the presenter offered a misrepresentation). Apparently you were so caught up in the dispute between the two views that you missed the point.
@@timchess2313 It is one thing to point out the obvious that the one side affirms that elect are chosen irrespective of any good works or choice forseen by God in them and it is another to claim that Reformed teach that God has no purpose for electing them.
@@timchess2313 you say "but the Bible teaches God elects according to foreknowledge " but the correct interpretation of the Bible in regard to predestination and election is one of the very points in contention. Thus what you have presented here is simply begging the question (which is a logical fallacy).
@@Adam-ue2ig Romans 8:29 (KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Here is the link where Dr. Ruckman explains why his TV videos were edited ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pV2LdNm4qTk.htmlsi=2A3dI18xCwN9tR5z
The Bible says Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. So with Ezra those were believers who believed God and were counted righteous, so yes they can do free will offerings if they’re righteous
🔴🔴🔴 John 6:37-39 KJV [37] All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. [38] For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. [39] And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. Romans 8:29-39 KJV [29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. [30] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. [31] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? [32] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? [33] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. [34] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. [35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? [36] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. [37] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@HOWBAZARY Calvinists believe that, at the beginning of time, God selected a limited number of souls to grant salvation and there's nothing any individual person can do during their mortal life to alter their eternal fate. Either you were chosen or you were not chosen, and that's all there is to it. The above is not what the Bible says about salvation, therefore it is heresy. This is only one of the 5 pedals that they hang their theological hat on, and 4.5 of them are incorrect. The only half that they got correct is the fact that predestination is a Bible doctrine, but it is not about salvation. Predestination is the act of being conformed into the image of Jesus Christ, something that only happens after you are born again. The list goes on and on but debating it only means that you wish to hang on to it. If this is the only Ruckman sermon that you have heard you would do well to listen to as many as you can before letting his detractors ruin you.
The problem with Ruckman is he gets the gospel right but everything else he's completely screwed me on I agree that salvation is by grace through faith and I agree Calvin is are a cult that deny free will but Rahman himself had a lot of funky teachings. First of all hyper dispensationalism it is a thing people will take versus and they'll read into them way too much in the northern broad context surrounding the verse this happens all the time. But ruckman's understanding of what a hyper dispensationalist is is not accurate because I am what you would call him attacks dispensationalist I believe the church started admit acts according to what the book says because I have intellectual Integrity whereas Ruckman doesn't believe that Ruckman believes that the body of Christ started at the early part of the book of Acts when the body of Christ started with the Apostle Paul Paul was the first member of the body of Christ according to scripture
FREE WILL???????? To all those who belive in Free Will. I would like to know: 1) What is your definition of that word Free Will? 2) Where you get your definition of that word? 3) Is there a definition of that word in the scriptures? If so chapter and verse. TY
John 1:9 (KJV) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. John 12:32-33 (KJV) And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This he said, signifying what death he should die. And since faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God God help us to preach the gospel so that men can hear and believe If they choose to do so.
Ezra 7:13 (KJV) I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee. After being enlightened by the Holy Spirit through the preaching of the gospel each person has a free will to either accept or reject Jesus Christ as their savior. Because God said he would draw all men to himself when he was lifted up to die in the cross and that he is the true light that would lighten every man that cometh into the world. After being drawn and enlightened each person has a free will to say yes or no to Jesus Christ as their Lord and savior.
Have you never heard of a dictionary? You realize every language on earth has a corresponding dictionary? Do you not consult a dictionary in your own language to discover the meaning of a word? The public school system is really turning out some geniuses...😶
🔴🔴🔴 John 10:1-5,7,11,14-16,24-29 KJV [1] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. [2] But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. [3] To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. [4] And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. [5] And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. [7] Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. [11] I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. [14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. [15] As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. [16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. [24] Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. [25] Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. [29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
@@HOWBAZARY sad how that belief drove me to madness because I knew deep down I was never good enough. now I know I am saved 100% not a a single doubt about that
In God's FOREKNOWLEDGE, He knows who will be saved or not saved BUT He does NOT withhold the Gospel from the lost. It is His will that ALL come to repentance. Jesus died for the whole world. Calvinism is a man-made doctrine. We are totally depraved people without Jesus BUT Jesus' atonement is not limited. God knew that most of Israel would reject their Messiah, but did that stop Jesus from trying to saved Israel? No!! He wept for His people. John the Baptist was the forerunner to Jesus and he taught repentance to Israel. Praise God, there was a remnant that was saved. If you are in a Church that teaches Calvinism, please leave. There was NO new doctrines given by the Holy Spirit after the Book of Revelation was written. Salvation is by grace through faith in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. All have access to this grace BUT we all have a free will. God knows what decision you will make but He will try to save you anyway.
We are NOT "totally depraved." Jesus was fully human and never sinned once. He then commanded us (knowing we could, but also knowing we probably wouldn't) to "go and SIN NO MORE." Clear your mind of that remaining Cauvinist nonsense that denies the humanity of Jesus, which is a FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINE that every Christian must accept.
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
Brother Tim, I’ve got about 16 VHS Drawing Men to Christ videos by Dr Ruckman. I’m not sure if these are still on the bookstore now or not but I’d love to mail them to you. I have no way of taking care of them. Find me on Facebook or Twitter if you are on there to send me your address if you want them…free of charge.
Thank you for your kind offer. According to James at PBI bookstore he said anything recorded in BBC in Pensacola is off limits but anything recorded elsewhere they can't restrict. So if these are Drawing Men to Christ videos recorded in Pensacola I won't be able to post to RU-vid. But in all sincerity I thank you for your offer! If you ever come across any audio or video recorded away from Pensacola will gladly post up to RU-vid. Thanks so much, God bless your generosity
@@timchess2313 thank you for the information! I found them on eVilBay a few years ago and picked them up along with several audio cassette tapes. They are all from the bookstore though. If I find any of them outside of the bookstore I’ll pick them up and ping ya here on your channel. Thanks again!
@@jerem0621 hi. I’d love to see those videos. I’m So into watch Ruckman say n night. Could you upload them on Rumble or something like that. Surely can’t be a bad thing to share them. The bbc are a corrupt pedo institute to the hilt. Who cares what the heck those people say lol
@ 29:00 Peter starts to read Romans 9 OUT OF CONTEXT! Verse 18, then 16, then 17, then 13. I am a Calvinist, because of Exegesis. I have YET to see someone go line by line, verse by verse via exegesis and disprove Calvinism, without using an analogy or parable to explain the text. Please handle God's word with care.
If someone went line by line, you wouldn’t accept their interpretation because of your presuppositions. Other things would have to be pointed out first to show the necessity of a certain interpretation to get us to where Paul was leading us. If your interpretation doesn’t land in line with Rom 11, then it’s the wrong interpretation. I can go line by line with you if you would first allow me to point out where Paul was going with it. Otherwise your presuppositions won’t allow you to even understand or accept my interpretation of Rom 9, line by line. It would be pointless.
Romans 9 is about Paul's brethren- Israel, hardened because of disobedience. If you don't understand this you haven't read it. Calvin was anti-semetic. No way would he have admitted the Jews are in view. Take care
Agreed. Pete’s standard operating procedure for exegesis is hopping around from verse to verse to try and prove his point. He doesn’t know what the word careful means when it comes to Bible study
@@evanu6579 My argument was about mishandling God's word. Then you comment on my presuppositions, but NOT the issue of going out of order with the word of God. Regardless of what my presuppositions are, please value reading scripture in order. Thank you.
@@FabledNarrative Line by line is going by order. I mentioned it several times. Your Calvinist interpretation going “line by line” will land you with a heap of contradictions by the time you get to the end of Rom 11. Line by line can start with figuring out where Paul goes with it first and then you can see if line by line lands you where he wants you.
The Lord is not willing that any should perish, who will have all men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth, that he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY MAN, and he is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world, behold the Lamb of God which take the away the sin of the world.
Piffle!!! I wish Ruckman was still alive so I could ask him about the very first verses he uses to "refute" Calvinism (Ezra 7:13-16, Ex. 35:21). Where do these contexts show they deal with salvation? The verses he quoted at the beginning that Calvinists (and others) use, deal with "coming, knowing, and being granted" salvation by GOD. NOT by the will of man! Calvinists don't deny free will exists in humanity, it's just that man can only do that which is consistent with his fallen nature, and what man CANNOT DO, is choose or know God without the activity of God The Holy Spirit!! It is His job to convict people of sin, righteousness, and judgment. It is His job to regenerate. "Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost" 1 Cor. 12:3.---- So if the Spirit is not IN us, we can't confess Jesus. If the Spirit is IN us, we are born again, regenerated, justified, and saved. It's not complicated.
It's freedom of speech,people can change the channel if they don't like it. Ruckman said it, he obviously didn't see a need to censor himself then so why you doing it now ! Do you even have permission to edit these videos (just because you have the ability to, doesn't make it right.) Are you going to go through his books & edit out all his comments you don't care for as well ! Leave it alone man !
You know its pretty ironic, that Ruckman spent more than half his life Teaching/preaching & Defending the KJV the Inerreant,Infallible, Inspired word of God ! Ruckman stood up to & Standed against Scholars & Theologians who change God's Word. And here comes along some ne'er do well and edits out comments he doesn't like ! What're you gonna do when the words SIN,HELL,HEAVEN,SALVATION & JESUS CHRIST aren't allowed anymore & become taboo!
I love this guys messages. In 30 yrs I never believed in predestination but last year I came to believe it on my own. Never read a Calvinist book or anything like that. But there’s no way to get around it, there is predestination.
Yes we as believers are predestinated to be conformed to his image, predestination started when we trusted Christ as Saviour. At that point we became predestinated to be conformed to his image Romans 8:29 (KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
@tim chess NASB1995 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified. You quoted Romans 8:28 out of context. In context, God foreknew His people, predestined to be conformed in His Son, called for this purpose, justified through His Son, and glorified those whom are in Christ. Simply, God's foreknown people were predestined them to be glorified in His Son. Thus, Calvinism (Reformed Christianity) is true. Non-Calvinists take verses in isolation and base their theology around that isolated verse, void of context.
@@FabledNarrative foreknowledge on God's part does not mean predestination to heaven or hell, it means he knows ahead of time (fore- knowledge) who will believe and who won't, and those who will he predestinates to be conformed to the image of his son. Foreknowledge proceeds (comes before) predestination. Predestination is not arbitrary but based on God foreknowing who will trust Christ and who won't, and predestination is not to heaven (even though a believer will go there) but it is to be conformed to Christ's image
Predestination is true. Predestination for believers, not to becomes believers. God has predestined believers to be conformed to the image of Christ at the resurrection, to receive the adoption at the resurrection, and to receive an inheritance at the resurrection. So yes, predestination is biblical, but not how a Calvinist sees it. You’re predestined to yet future events because you believed.
Acts 24:14 (KJV) But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
@@forg1vens1nner58 Ruckman has been thoroughly debunked many times over. I was merely pointing to his particular brand of “ism” that he claims is just believing and reading the Bible. We all have our presuppositions even if he claimed that he didn’t.
Not Worthy I’ve never seen him debunked. At all.. I’ve seen Biblically illiterate people like Steven Anderson take a jab at him after he passed. Never seen anyone get the better of him in a debate neither, John MacArthur even refused to debate him at Ruckman’s expense. So I’d love if you’d be able to discuss doctrine on here and debunk him.
@@forg1vens1nner58 If you have never seen him debunked “at all” that tells me a couple of things. 1.) You haven’t looked very hard or read too much that would debunk him. 2.) If you did hear something that was contrary to his supposed truth you wouldn’t believe it because you have your own strong biases in accordance with him. His blunders are quite numerous in this video and you won’t have to search very hard in the comment section to see that.
@@timchess2313 I use the KJV as my base bible to study from. I do think it's the most accurate over all. But, 1John 5:7 was not "discovered" until the 16th century. It's not in the original manuscript. The Roman Catholic priest who ran the KJ translation team, also consisting of 50% RC priests, were desperate to find evidence of their Trinity doctrine, so they inserted the false verse. To their credit, no other translations incorporate the error.
@@brucemercerblamelessshamel3104 Exactly. Ruckman blasts Calvinists as heretics and having a “backwards salvation” but fails to mention the KJV translators were also Calvinists. Good point
The first step always, when attempting to taint Calvinism as wicked “heresy” (when, of course, it is nothing but Sola Scripture), is to misrepresent and mischaracterize Calvinism from the get-go. For instance, my dear Wormwood, always suggest that Calvinists believe humans have no “will,” choice, or say in their “destinies.” Additionally, make ‘Sola Scriptura’ out to mean something entirely different than what it actually means, so that your opponents cannot use scripture (i.e. Jn 6:44) to buttress their points. Lastly, make very sure you appeal to people’s vanity and desire to be gods themselves! Tell them that Calvinism robs them of all volition and choice and that your way is the way where THEIR ideas and understanding are pivotal, deep and entirely separate from anything like God’s Will or some such. Your Loving uncle. Rob
2 Peter 3:9 (KJV) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 1 John 2:2 (KJV) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world. Hebrews 2:9 (KJV) But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. 1 Timothy 2:4 (KJV) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Here is a verse that shows that people resisted God's will and instead did their own will. Matthew 23:37 (KJV) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Also here are verses that show the reason ("for this cause God shall send them strong delusion ") is because they first "received not the love of the truth that they might be saved" 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 (KJV) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Because they first believed not the truth because they had pleasure in unrighteousness, for this cause God sent them strong delusion that they might believe a lie and be damned. It was not an eternal, arbitrary, unconditional choice by God to damn them to eternally to the lake of fire, but in response to them first not receiving the love of the truth. Then "for this cause" God sent them strong delusion that they might believe a lie and be damned.
These people are level one thinkers, I don't mean that as an attack on them, it's just that they are not very adept and wise with deeper understanding. It is best to give false Christianity one fastball, waist high, down the center and if the audience rejects their weaker position, just leave them to themselves. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, unless you have a block of salt.
