Yeah it’s appreciated. Some great comedic moments, useful info, inspiring travel, heart-warming stuff. Going to try get my kids and wife to watch it in advance of our next euro trip.
That’s lovely to see, Flaviana is a lot less aggressive with you when holding wine, doing smiling at you… and using the word piece… 😉 Great video…Enjoy your hol… 😊
Great video, every time I watch these I get inspired to plan my own European road trip. We’ve previously driven to the south of France in an ICE car but we are now an all EV family (LEAF + ARIYA)
Ariya would make a great road trip EV.. Leaf is hard enough travelling around longer distances in UK looking for Chademo connectors; don't fancy doing that in Europe. Unfortunately for me as a fellow Leafer.
Always a delight watching your videos. Drove a NIO EL6 last week. Big difference from from the 2013 ZOE I'm driving now. The future is now. As a Belgian, I completely agree about Belgian drivers. However, in my experience, French drivers are at least as bad, especially if you go more to the South.
@@MrEV It is. It solves some fundamental problems that most current EV drivers don't have to deal with - If you have home charging, it's so easy to drive an EV that battery swap seems completely unneccessary. However millions and millions of drivers are not able to charge at their property. Furthermore, swap stations are less stressful for the grid in comparison to ultra rapid chargers. Many of those (will) need battery storage to buffer the power anyway. So I think there is actually a future for battery swapping, of course not as a replacement for charging, but as an extra option with specific advantages.
Scrivo in italiano as I heard u more than fluent in it : vi ho scoperto recently and I really love your videos plus I find your couple amazing , you guys together are really funny 😁 I love the difference between the complaining Italian soul of your wife vs your English calmness . Well done guys
Just used the link in the description to send an overdue donation. These videos must be so much work to film and edit and provide useful info, as well as being entertaining. Thanks again.
We were on vacation in Austria at the same time, and the weather was really bad at the beginning of August. I even made two videos on my channel, but we had a much easier time with our model s on the road. You can take a look, even if you don't understand German, the pictures are simply breathtaking. Many greetings from Bremen to Canterbury. 👋😊🦮
Super video, good to see the Italian chargers are easy to use too. PS John Hawkwood was a notorious 14th century English mercenary who with his gang, butchered their way across Europe for money, often switching from one side to another if the pay was better, not somebody you'd want to mess with..
Great job man! I’m planning on getting a Peugeot E-208 on march and your videos about this car are really inspiring me to do that! Thank you very much, keep going like that!!!
Thanks for sharing you family holiday in beautiful Italy… love the chilling out with a glass of wine! Flaviana really looks the part of relaxed mum with that glass in her hand😀. We have to be more adventurous as we don’t go on long trips with our Kia eNiro … really the best family EV.
The one in Tuscany? It was. Flaviana was being a bit hard on it! The one we stayed at in the e-Niro trip was our favourite in Tuscany though: Hotel Casolare La Terre Rosse www.hotelterrerosse.com/en ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vSg5EYFk1I8.htmlsi=GrcaOG_fCTydJmHb&t=1351
@@MrEV we honeymooned nearby, relais la suvera in pievescola. Was that wine from the wine museum in San gimignano? I'm afraid I have to book a holiday to Italy now
Your road trip videos have inspired our family and this year for the first time we’ll be driving from Sweden to Italy on our EV! Send greetings to Flaviana from a fellow Italian expat 🙂
Andrew your journeys are always entertaining and full of info and learning especially for us EV virgins, (Took posession of our first EV 2 days ago , the new tesla model 3 highland) where is your Tesla journey 🤣
Congratulations! How are you finding the lack of stalks?! I’m hoping to finish part one of the Tesla journey before Christmas. I won’t commit to sooner than that!
@@MrEV Well only driven it about 200klm so far and mostly at night, Only came with 23% SOC so have so far, one charge at a supercharger Valencia(150klm free credits, because of only 23%) one on a free 7.4kw charger in my local village (just for practice) and at my home, to now 100% , so not exactly used to it yet. But have to say, I am surprised that within the first 100klm i was not feeling for the stalks and now even at roundabouts i am finding the buttons, still taking a quick look but notice i am starting to go for the buttons without looking. So i actually think within the next 100klm or so I probable will not need to look at all. I will reserve my final judgement for a couple of weeks time. The rest of the car though is so much better than we had hoped it is noticably much better than the old model 3 that I test drove, wind, road noise etc and the suspencion is so much better without actualy losing it almost kart like feeling (I used to race them) I would say, and a million miles better than the MG4 Luxury that we test drove and had first ordered last year, until the crap non existant MG Spain service caused me to tell them where they could stick their MG4 order. I really am glad I went for the new Ultra Red and white seats, even though it was a rediculous amount extra (My wife saw the colour on an "out of spec review" in Germany and just said wow) It really does look awesome, seems to suit the car especially from the front and even though we have only had it 2 days everywhere we stop somebody says wow that colour looks awesome. Now got to edit or just upload the 360 camera footage to youtube this weekend as my family in UK are pestering me to do it. I really hate editing video it takes so long, so i understand your non commitment to when 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I am gonna show this to my wife this evening and I think after that we will overthink our 2024 summer holiday plans. Maybe it will be my first time in Italy next year. Really scared about driving in Italy though.
I drove over the Genoa highway bridge 2 years before it collapsed, I felt it wobble. The year after I avoided it, drove around it. This year a bus fell off a cliff because of the state of a guard rail. A Gondola fell down a few years ago… the infrastructure is more dangerous than the drivers in general. We spent three summer vacations in Tuscany and loved it. Milan is a fantastic city, but not for driving. Don’t hold off, you’d miss too much. But be aware of the infrastructure.
Yes, but with an e-208 it will be the car dictating where you have that coffee. It does not have enough highway range for your preference. It is a city dweller. Andrew proves it is possible to do a road trip like this, but it takes dedication. We use it as our dweller and we love it. For road trips we take the Merc.
Great road trip. The hotel in Tuscany looked great. I agree Belgians are shocking drivers - stayed in a hotel in Brussels many years ago now and the cacophony of screeching tyres and blaring horns was something else especially when trying to sleep. Driven there as well and my knuckles were white.
I am a Belgian. Brussels is a special case. The misbehavior there is because of a large non-belgian ethnic group behaving as if they still were in their country of origin.
Well worth the wait , fantastic video as always , please try and do a review on the new Kia Ev Niro , would love to hear your view comparing it to the old one , I love my new niro in the 4 grade spec 😊😊
Great video. New to EV (June 2023 BMW iX1) took 1st big trip from Memmingen Bavaria (near Illertissen where you charged) to Norwich on 12/13 October, returning 19/20th. Wanted to do it all on Ionity as get low rate with BMW (DE €0.35, BE €0.28, UK €0.30). However, on both legs but particularly on return in middle of Storm Babet, big problems in the area from Stuttgart/Karlsruhe to Luxembourg - a blackish hole in infrastructure, at least if you're wanting to fast track through. Outbound, like you, charged up at Denkendorf near Stuttgart, hoping to get 336km (WLTP 400km) to next Ionity charger at Messancy near Luxembourg. Knew unlikely, and had to get alternative. Near Saarbrücken, sent to broken HPC, but luckily found an Aldi 75kW DC charger that did good job while I shopped for Stollen, Glühwein & Co for UK!. Rest of journey in Belgium & UK (Hythe, Maidstone, Hethersett) a dream. However, return truly awful. Perhaps I was getting too cocky. Never had range-fear, but by now was quite happy to be in single digit SOC% in areas I didn't even know. Filled up at Messancy at midnight from 2% to 78% knowing would have to do non-Ionity charge somewhere before Karlsruhe. Hit closed, supposedly 24hr open, HPC chargers, followed at 4%SOC by faulty 2x beautiful new Shell Recharge HPCs not working despite what Shell forecourt cashier said & hotline claiming "not Shell" (too new!), then 2%SOC emergency slow 35kW DC charger in village, followed by miserable Total Energies 2 x 175kW Chargers east of Karlsruhe near Autobahn that only gave 25kW, turn back & divert into Karlsruhe to brilliant EnBW HPC (some of best in Germany) & was then able to get to Ionity near Stuttgart. Over 6 hours to do 370km & all the time being beaten up by Babet! However, despite that double Blackhole experience, in over 30 years of dozens of Bavaria to UK trips, the most relaxed 'driving' journey ever, & that despite driving at full, permissible maximum speed (180km/h BMW max in Germany) and I'm 69 now & ought to have grown out of lead-foot phase. Did get photographed on motorway in France & Luxembourg, but not much above limit! All the assistance features make it so much easier. If interested, 3 videos (mainly in English) I put on a Twitter post during awful night return run. x.com/ImmigrSchorschi/status/1715542518572470396?s=20
Great watching your vid, but it makes me yearne to do another pan-Europe jaunt as we've been confined to camp for a couple of years; fingers crossed for next year...
Italy always amazes me how beautiful it is I am dreaming about to travel to cassino and napoli with my fiat 500e convertible with my little pooch cappuccino ❤
I have driven to Italy twice and loved it. I’d love to do a European road trip In an EV. I have a Soul EV, an older one but I would have to replace that one with a bigger battery pack one.
That was worth waiting for, I would say it was lovely see the sun but you did drive through some pretty atrocious weather, didn't you?! Cheers chaps, looked like a lovely time.👍👏
Pretty sure the Mini Cooper SE turns the headlights on when it's raining, but that may be a function of light sensitivity rather than rain. Enjoyed the journey. Great scenery. The great thing about traffic in an EV is you're not burning fuel when you're not moving--apart from HVAC and lights.
In Europe, with family, I would always use trains as they are so efficient and reliable (even in Italy!). But this looks great for a solo road trip - very tempting.. :)
Zalig! Really nice video there.I enjoyed it very much. It must have been quite a bit of work, thanks for this, I always look out for your next video. I own a 2020 e-208, yours seems to be quite a bit more efficient. The difference is the transmission ratio that is better for high speed. The tire thing is the annoying result of the ABS system watching for differences in revolutions rather than true tire pressure measurement. It is a known issue. Sometimes you just need to reset the system from the setup menu and it is gone. Probably due to the bad weather, it will have sensed some rev diffs splashing through the puddles. Also the driving and infrastructure in Belgium - I am a Belgian - are no surprise to me. There are quite a bit of very poor drivers watching their cell phone instead of the road. People are also very much stressed, so they don't have time to mind the road too much while worrying about everything. As for the infrastructure - the weird angle backing up - you have to know that if your IQ is too far above 50 you are deemed overqualified for mapping out infrastructure in Belgium. That is a real problem in Belgium. Too many times the road signs here give you the message "You moron, you didn't know it was back there? Now you've missed it!" which of course does not help a safe driving style. Nowhere else in the world I have seen people back up on the highway because they missed their exit. I see it happen in Belgium quite a bit. So it is not you, you did really well. Another very enjoyable and instructive video. Just avoid Belgium for safety in the future :-).
Great video! We travelled out on that route as you came back, weather was horrendous! You have faith in ABRP, I can’t get on with it, find it frustrating.
I have some faith in ABRP because I’ve not found a decent alternative yet, but I agree it’s enormously frustrating. I probably cut out an extra 30 minutes of me moaning about it!
Fantastic video, a joy to watch. And like many others, I'm now dreaming of a first EV road trip. Just got to buy an EV now. Which is timely as I have an Enyaq on order, supposedly being delivered in December. I'm an Englishman living in France with a French wife. Future competition for Andrew and Flaviana? I don't think so, you are a peerless master of your art. I so much enjoy your videos.
I really enjoy your videos, they give a good insight in to the reality of owning an EV…being honest I remain to be convinced, primarily because I couldn’t stand the “brinkmanship” or the need to organise to such a degree when/where to stop. A failing on my part I admit (amongst many)
Thank you! I quite enjoy the organisation but I completely understand it’s not for everyone. I wanted to do this journey in a Megane as that has route planning built-in, which would have made the journey far easier. Sadly I couldn’t afford to keep it so we got the e-208 instead for this journey.
Thank you, really enjoyed that - must have taken some editing to get almost exactly an hour. Lovely scenery and family. I would struggle with the lack of toilets at charging stops and the available food - i wonder if there are supermarkets you could stop at to charge and get a better selection of food ? I know you prioritised charging where you could use the shell card but in the uk i tend to use the tesla superchargers if there are open ones near my route mainly because of price - 40p if you subscribe for a month. The first part after dropping off the ladies looked idyllic but looked pretty grim after that with the bad weather - never understand when one has to concentrate so hard in bad weather how some people can drive for 6-8 hours without a break - i would value a stop every couple of hours or so to stretch my legs.
Yes, I’m sure there’ll be better options at supermarkets (certainly in France anyway - Carrefour are fantastic for instance) but it can often mean a bit of a detour off the motorway. Tesla’s prices are absolutely fantastic. Such a shame most other networks are extortionate.
Another excellent video and what lovely places you all visited. The little 208 looked good too, is the battery too small and you have to stop frequently though? Have you worked out a comparison between an ICE car fuel cost and the EV fuel cost (including all the sandwiches and coffees at the chargers 😂)
What a beautiful setting for the first hotel and such a quiet location. Second hotel looked nice. But what is it with the white paint? Hotels seem to be universally either pale coffee/magnolia or white of an odd yellow.
I have to be honest. The main reason we tend to go to Italy on vacation is the food! That and I like the drive through France, mainly because I'm used to Belgian roads :D :) Doesn't Google maps include charging stops by now?
Another thoroughly enjoyable video. 👏🏾👏🏾 Well done & thank you. But I’m dying to know what happened when you first sat down on the ski lift?🧐 All I heard was “attentione!” 🤷🏾♂️😛
As usual, a great video - I expect you really appreciated some good home cooking after all those sandwiches and burgers! (kudos to Flaviana and her food + hotel ratings - nothing like a bit of the Truth As It Really Is). Did you find that the bad weather impacted your range seriously or not so much? Have to say that ABRP didn't seem so good in real-world use.
ABRP is far better than it was, but I agree it can still be very glitchy. Also, a weak link was using it with Tronity: an OBD dongle would be far better, but that wasn’t an option in the Peugeot as it was from Onto. And yes, getting home to ‘proper’ food is always a pleasure! As for the range, I don’t think the poor weather impacted it too much because I was driving slower.
I'm guessing Bolzano / Obereggen is in a German speaking area of Italy. The Tesla has had "Charging interrupted" a few time. I'm pretty sure that on at least a couple of occasions it was the charger overheating and switching itself off. (just went to a different charger - worked fine both times). Other times ...not obvious. Mains glitches? One of the features I would like to have on the Tesla is to turn the lights on when the wipers do anything other than a one off wipe. It doesnt. 😞 Tyre inflation warnings are a pain in the proverbial. My old Honda you had to deliberately reset the sensors via an obscure menu on the dash. The Tesla seems to go away after a few miles,... I dont quite trust it though. (Ive had four punctures in the first year I had it. Expensive!!!!) Having seen all that beautiful scenery and far away places, my feet are getting itchy again. Well done Andrew.
Hi love the road trips to Italy, I have done several myself although not in an electric car. Could you put a link to the hotels especially the one called Peter would love to explore that area on the road to and from the family home near Cassino.
Good point! I'll add them to the description, but here are the links: Hotel Peter: www.hotel-peter.it/en San Galgano: www.sangalgano.it/en/ We would highly recommend the following hotel in Tuscany as well - a place we went in the e-Niro years ago. The food was amazing, and they have an EV charger. www.hotelterrerosse.com/en
Always enjoy your videos,with or without the family . I wish I could do it but sadly my brain does not work as well as yours . Keep the videos coming . What car do you have now ? As onto have gone bust .
Nice video and an easy watch. I’ve driven EV through France, Belgium. Germany and experience very much as you showed - mostly very good. I’m not so convinced by a better route planner - I use it to outline the trip but then stick with my onboard navigation and google maps.
@@PhilippeDHooghe We usually go to family in Huy near Liege. Charging at high speed on the way in France A25 near Lille or the E40 route near Ghent. In Huy I've tended to take a trip out near Liege airport Bierset for the ionity. I've used the supermarkets in Huy but too slow really and not really convenient to leave the car there. From Huy out to Germany Aachen, Cologne there are chargers at the service stations. So generally good but would prefer more public chargers in the town itself and of the service stations in and near Huy - slow or not working on our trip a year ago. It does look like there may be more options now - may find out before Xmas.
@@1mw2mam ... yeah, not surprised. I have talked to EV charger companies who said it was "very hard" to get a permit to build an EV charger in Wallonia. As the economy of Wallonia is more like that of a third world country, there is not a lot of EVs around either. There is no reason for Wallonia to be so far behind economically other than its leadership. Wallonians are not lazy. They are discouraged.
I used ABRP most of the time, but the navigation (although better than it ever was) isn’t quite as slick as Apple/Google. I just used them when I knew there was no need to stop to charge anywhere else.
Thanks, great vid. I know you were spoiled by the ioniq 5 previously, but TBH the charging speeds you were getting on the e208 were not shabby for a battery of that size (we have an ID 4 with the small battery, and the e208 looked like it was getting better rates in many cases). Although I do want to really believe in ABRP, I think your experience is the best demonstration I have seen on RU-vid of the frustrations that can arise when relying on it too much, particularly as a live routing (as opposed to planning) tool. Your persistence in sticking with it slavishly for the whole journey is admirable, but possibly added significantly to the stress? Perhaps your next road trip video should look at how using a mix of different tools (e.g a combination of ABRP for planning, Chargefinder, and Google / Apple Maps for navigation) compares in practice. Sounds more complicated in practice, but in my experience is actually simpler.
I’m quite impressed with the charging speeds on Stellantis cars like the e-208. 30 minutes to 80% is very respectable. And yes, ABRP can be so glitchy. It would have been better had I been able to use an OBD dongle instead of Tronity, but even then it’s not always brilliant. I’m tempted to do a long journey using ABRP one way, and without it on the way back to see which is better.
Thank you Mr Ev, your videos have been excellent and have been instrumental in us purchasing our first EV. We are the proud owners of an Ionic 5 77kw (EVs are excellent) and are planning our first EV trip to Italy which we normally do twice a year in an ICE car. We live in West Dorset and are travelling to Scauri, Lazio via Cernobbio and Umbria. On your latest trip to Italy, would you still recommend RFID cards or another alternative for car charging. Any top tips would be helpful. Many thanks yet again.C
Thanks so much! What a wonderful trip that'll be. I would highly recommend the Octopus Electroverse RFID card (and app, if you need it). That should activate 99% of the chargers you encounter on your journey. electroverse.octopus.energy/network/sign-up?referralCode=free-sage-191 And get yourself a Bip&Go to take care of tolls through France and Italy. www.bipandgo.com/en/ Buon viaggio!
Just noticed you never use superchargers. Did ONTO support supercharging? The only time i've done a long multi day trip, i found a tesla subscription and using superchargers were far cheaper that any other alternative.
Onto only supported Superchargers with the Teslas (see the Model 3 road trip video when I manage to finish it!) And yes, they are very cheap, and particularly good in the e-208 as the charging port is on the correct side! I liked using the one Kerpen, although I wish there were canopies! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J2e9DVgSvwc.htmlsi=1LuPYu2sOKKTJjeK&t=2888
I am tempted to attempt an EV Italy trip. I am a newby when it comes to foreign charging - what rfid cards and accounts would you advise me to get -- also, how low do you normally allow your battery to go i.e. how close are typical charging opportunities? I normally use a Belgium, Lux, Swiss route to Gotthard so not surprised ABRP took you away from France.
I tend to aim for a 10% minimum as that gives plenty of buffer in case you have a diversion or need to go to another stop. Getting it nice and low helps get a faster charge too. Are you in the UK? If so, Octopus Electroverse is currently the best of the RFIDs I think. electroverse.octopus.energy/network/sign-up?referralCode=free-sage-191
Love your detailed videos! At 2:19, is that the ABRP or Tronity app? Also planning a Peugeot e-208 road trip from the Netherlands to Austria in a couple weeks (so in winter) :)
That'll be a lovely journey! Remember to get snow chains! Yes, it's ABRP. abetterrouteplanner.com/premium/?referral=DHEJRJDI It's not always great with Tronity so I'd recommend getting an OBD device and linking it up with ABRP for much more accurate route planning on-the-go.
@@MrEV thanks for your reply! How many times out of 10 would you say the linking between Tronity and ABRP works? I am considering an OBD dongle, but also read they can have some security issues. Next to that, we are not doing many long road trips like these with the Peugeot, so don't really feel like buying an extra device for this one.
That's a lot of stops to drive to the south, changed a lot since we last did it regularly in the 80's , we had an AA map ....lol , do you not eat fruit ?.lol...we always bought fruit at stops
Looked like a great trip! I notice that your individual legs were fairly short, usually less than 100 miles. Was this because you were using ABRP which calculated optimal charging?
The efficiency was a bit better than ABRP thought so I did end up reaching destinations with a bit higher % than planned. Ideally I’d have aimed for about 10-20%. But yes, ABRP was calculating the trip in the fastest way, but it was also prioritising chargers that accepted the Shell card. (Which I had free with Onto!)
Your trip looks very much limited by range. Staying between 20 and 80 SoC means 60% of 45 kWh or 27 kWh. At 18 kWh/100km, 150km. 93 miles. A 77kWh Ioniq 6 is a totally different experience on the highway. The e-208 is not built for long road trips. Primarily a perfect suburban and city machine, limited mileage roadtrips doable. Andrew’s trip would be agony for many. Certainly for the machissimos who think covering 1200 km in one day proves they are great. I’m more like Andrew. 650km a day is enough. But I’d prefer doing it with two stops, not four. However, as shown by some others, one can also change the way of car travel and have more frequent stops, hotel stays and opportunities to see more along the road rather than doing point-to-point travel. I believe Andrew shows how this is done and I like it a lot. But many people don't feel they have the time for that. I have plenty now, that makes me privileged in that department.
Nice little car that 208. in motorway speed it take alot of charging but on Contry roads it is more normal in using energy and dont need as much charging.
Yes, it’s definitely more of a country road sort of car, although I took it on other long journeys when I had it and was pleasantly surprised at the efficiency. Possibly because English motorways are so congested!
Personally, I ask ABRP to stop only in stations with at least 6 chargers, to avoid small places with one shared charger like you had. Great video by the way, thanks! I can’t imagine all the GoPros batteries management during the trip!
Thanks Andrew for the video, loved the bits in Italy particularly the wine. My only concern is you were charging at 40% SoC I noticed at least once possibly more why not drive further and stop between 0-10% SoC instead and will give you the best charging speed and charging curve. ABRP is got some very weird intelligence when it comes to chargers. Having seen some that Felix has posted about on Twitter I'd purposely have stopped at some of those instead of listening to ABRP.
So how do you navigate on long haul trips then? I'm eager to learn. So far, my trips in the e-208 always were "within the range" for one day. The farthest I've gone is 168 km single, for a four day stay at Rochefort Belgium. I dared because I wanted to try and the hotel had a Porsche 22 kW charger. No public chargers to be seen in Rochefort. The only ones were privately owned by hotels run by Flemish owners. I've also done one day trips over range, but had carefully planned a FastNed stop ahead. FastNed are fast and reliable. 0.69 € / kWh is steep and makes diesel cheaper. What kills Peugeot EVs on long haul also is the lack of affordable fast chargers in Europe. So we use the Merc diesel for long haul. The Merc is also a considerably better and an even more luxurious highway machine, but it is also twice the price of a new e-208 and much more expensive to own. BMW / Mercedes / Audi / VW EVs can fast charge at Ionity for about 0.30 € / kWh. With Peugeot, you are an outsider. Andrew had a special deal with ONTO that is now bust. But as a private owner of an e-208, you need to charge at home only. I use solar PV that makes it really cheap. So the e-208 fits the bill perfectly for suburban use, which is most of our use really, but if I'd need to do a lot of long haul I'd never go to Peugeot for that reason. I'd probably go BMW or Mercedes. Even the Electric Viking is missing that point and does not know why Tesla and European brand EVs are selling well in Europe but Chinese brands don't seem to get any traction. That is because most EVs are business owned and fast charging a Chinese EV is twice the cost. What sells an EV on long haul is the charging network.
I agree! I’d much rather have stopped at 10% and I really don’t understand ABRP’s logic sometimes. There’s an app called WattsUp which tells you the chargers along the road you’re on which would have been really useful, but it’s UK only. Apple Maps also has similarly great functionality, but I’ve only seen it work on the Fiat 500e, weirdly! Finding chargers on the go can be a real struggle. Maybe Google Maps does it now actually?! I’ll have to try it some time.
@@MrEV I believe you said it before. If you preselect charging network preferences you will get what you experienced. I have the same experience. For example, I asked Chargemap (very good for France) to prefer Fastned and route me to the Champagne region - I'm a Belgian after all. It made me even detour for a Fastned stop. Routing this way is a multivariable problem and all multivariable control needs tuning. With this I mean: no solution is ideal and the trade-offs need to have a cost assigned to them. As you change these costs, the solution will change too. The user does not have access to that tuning and it makes the router seem to do "strange" things. But it is the mathematically correct solution for the given tuning. In Dynamic Matrix Control - an industrial multivariable controller I've used a lot - these tuning factors are called "Equal Concern Error" and it becomes very complex very quickly to tune that. Very easy to completely screw up a controller with these.
@@MrEV When I've used ABRP to plan a journey I set my charger arrival SoC and destination arrival SoC and it does the rest for me so when I arrive at a charger I'm close to say 10% rather than 40% as I've set the SoC arrival at a charger to be 10%.
34:50 EWE go is part of EWE group, an electricity provider in the northwest of germany, I mean close to the shore. They have build up a huge own network of chargers and are cooperationg with a lot of others. It has its roots in the region between the rivers Weser (Bremen) and Ems (which is running along the dutch border) therefore the name Energy (supplier) Weser Ems = EWE. You called it like yougo or hugo but it is pronounced by the letters at least here in germany more or lesse like EVE.
Thankyou for sharing , still looking trying to decide what to get for replacement to my leaf 30, your Italians coming on very well. What price you paying with shell card and the octopus cards?
The Shell card was included with the Onto subscription I had with the car, so all the chargers I used with the Shell card were “free”. Have a look on the Shell and Octopus Electroverse websites to see the individual rates, as they can vary quite a lot. Generally the latter is cheaper I think.
@@MrEV i see that onto include free charging , is that Europe wide ? That might be way for me to upgrade my leaf 30 to something more fun. Have you slept in e208?
@@lookoutleo I've not slept in the e-208, no. I don't think it'd be very comfortable! Onto are on their last legs unfortunately. You can see the costs on this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-89P-X5_e_XY.html It's not really free charging exactly - just heavily discounted! But yes, it's Europe-wide, although there are other costs involved to pay for the Europe package.
It surprises me that you stop with still quite a lot of battery. Is there any reason for it? When I do long trips I normally don't start looking for a charger before I get to about 20%. Is that silly?
I was blindly following ABRP’s guidance! When I initially made the plan, it assumed I’d reach chargers with about 10% but it was a little more efficient than it thought and yet many of the charging stops stayed the same. That makes me think in some areas there are few options. Having said that, I had a setting in ABRP to prioritise chargers I could use the Shell card with, so I think it ignored some better options. Ordinarily I’d aim for 10-20% as you do as that seems far more sensible!
Hi Andrew. Great video. I am just starting to drive to Tuscany twice and year. We have a french tag for the peage and would like one for italy like you use at 2:37 in the vid. What brand do you have and does it work well? Can a UK resident get one?
@@MrEVthanks so much for taking the time to reply, much appreciated. Love your videos, keep them coming, particularly the road trips. Do you offer or plan to offer patreon membership?
@@philmiles4687 Thanks Phil. I don't want to go down that route just yet as I can't commit to the time. I'd just end up disappointing subscribers if I didn't keep to a weekly schedule or something! I do have an account on ko-fi.com/misterev though so I'll be using that a little more in the future for some exclusive videos.
Do you find the chargers in Europe more reliable than in Britain? A couple of months ago I travelled from Coleshill in Warwickshire to Bath travelling only on A roads. Out of the SEVEN chargers I attempted to use, five were not working, one was incredibly slow (and it was in a very dark car park) and the last one was in Cirencester and was working. It’s about 100 miles and took five hours. I have to say that was my worst experience, but I still have no intention of returning to an ICE vehicle.
I’ve never known anything as bad as that! What charging networks were they? BP, Shell and GeniePoint are best avoided I find. In terms of reliability I find Europe about the same as here, although their preference for Alpitronic chargers mean I do feel more confident that there’ll be no issues!
@@MrEV1. Coleshill Morrisons GeniePoint, n/w. 2. High street Coleshill n/w 3.Moreton-in-Marsh Blink n/w 4. Moreton-Marsh hospital Swarco e connect couldn’t connect 5. Stow on the Wold Tesco Pod point too slow 6. Cirencester Waitrose Shell recharge n/w 7. Cirencester Lidl Pod Point Hallelujah 😀 BTW Love your videos 👍
@@MrEV love it on the motorway and with lane follow assist. Pretty much stays central in the lane following the car Infront. Will be a helpful feature on a long trip. Now I've watched all your trip vids , it's given me the confidence to attempt a trip abroad with family. . Maybe just France first then maybe further away. Done almafi coast from the midlands in a transit van in 24hrs with 3 other lads taking it in turn driving. Stopped in minori for an hour , swam in the sea in Dec then drive back. Charity thing.
Mine is a GT and it has adaptive cruise. It works very well. The Merc's is better though, a bit less jerky. And the Peugeot will overtake on the right, which is not allowed. The Merc doesn't, stays behind cars on your left.
Thank you for your explanation You had some dreadful weather on your trip A lot of the older charge sites are out in the open so you get a good soaking at them I for one was caught out in a terential down pour while trying to get a charger working People filling up their fossil fueled cars just meters away were feeling smug with a full canopy over their heads watching me getting soaked and standing in about 4 inches of water That is a horror night I won't forget And I didn't get a charge there
