Philip II - 05 | Into Greece 

Happy to wait, your videos are always worth it. Keep it up 👍

Archaia Istoria interesting 🤔..... I never knew that the Greeks won a battle against the Macedonians. There you go.. you learn something new everyday 😆

Just asking, weren't Macedonians Greeks?

Hey bro, I'm a newbie to your channel. It's fucking dope man. Keep it up and for sure you'll have the next big history/info networks.

I really enjoy your channel. I am looking forward for the next episodes of Phillip,Alexander and the diadochoi. I dont mind to wait,i know that the final result will be perfect,but since its a long time already,just to reassure us,are you working on a new episode about Phillip?

this series is also good ru-vid.com/group/PLtTvxBSj6Espt-R08by3cwIJpA2T2s2tb

Much agreed I need more.

This name is doubtful

before 25 centuries FILIP KING ON MAKEDONIJA ! ! ! ! !

Yes

Ιστορία και Λεόν

To be fair, wouldn’t make much sense if I didn’t explain the whole final great conflict of Classical Greece thing before bringing Philip into the conflict. However the next episodes will no focus much more on Philip again

@@ArchaiaHistoriaNo problem man you do you, it just that by the point Philip appears I had forgotten the subject of the video.

Hola mi amigo! I plan to continue the series, just have some other videos lined up atm. Glad you’re enjoying the series.

There’s always the patreon lol! But this series is still being worked on, I’ve just been busy finishing with university

@@ArchaiaHistoria Aight glad to hear it, good luck with uni bro

You are serbo bulgarians do you realistically believe the ancient macedonians were slavic... Bulgarians are considered most closely related to the neighboring Macedonians and it is sometimes claimed that there is no clear ethnic difference between them.

Cradle of civilisation 😅😅😅😅 hahahahahaha 😅😅😅😅 you really made me laugh. I question, which civilisation Alexander spread to the entire world and which language?

@@Peterkonto MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP . ...... c'ao.

Thanks a lot for the kind words! Modern geopolitics and nationalism is definitely a minefield when explaining ancient identities. Even our understanding of what “Greece” is, is dependent on geographical, cultural and linguistic context. Your video suggestions sound quite interesting, I’ll have to give them a look once I’m done with the current back pile. And don’t worry Philip is making a return*

Just for you mate!

Yes sadly I’ve kept you all waiting for a while for the next episode. Although I will be continuing this series

@@ArchaiaHistoria Nah man take your time, quality>quantity. Thanks is for your work.

Just you wait for the come back!

Sometimes I do actually make videos. I know I’m surprised myself

apenasmeucanal You might need to join the discord to find out ;)

Archaia Istoria Alright you got me. +1 sub

Thanks glad you’re enjoying it. The plan is to finish the 30 tyrants and then to get back into Philip II

Appreciate it, many people have been asking for a Patreon but I think I’ve got a good idea lined up for the community to support me that they can benefit from too. To answer your question, I plan to go until the end of the Diadochi!

@@ArchaiaHistoria Honestly I'd use subscribe star if I were you since Patreon's community guidelines might come back to haunt you. Love your work ❤️. Keep it up.

@@ArchaiaHistoria wow

Cheers

Glad you’re enjoying it! Which episode brought you here anyway?

@@ArchaiaHistoria Philip 2 episode 3 watched it on 42inch smart TV 📺 lol I've listen to a few other but they don't include maps and animations so it's hard to picture what's going on but your animations really bring the story alive and help you visualize everything. I also respect your honesty when you mention details are lost on certain events and don't fill in them gaps with your own ideas. Excellent keep it up subscribed and liked

I’m all ok, just finishing my ancient history degree which takes up most of my time. Next video is on the 30 tyrants

Got tips from Invictas

i bet... that maneuver was so totalwar like

Glad you enjoyed them!

I plan on adding more but it’s still a WIP sorry. Rest assured the series will continue

Thanks, but full animation is really time consuming. Hopefully I can release at some steady pace but it does vary video to video

@@ArchaiaHistoria Yeah well, maybe you can do a little shorter videos like 10 minutes while keeping the animations interesting, and use a broad range of interesting historical topics to speak to a larger audience

I’d pretty much just be History Matters then. I appreciate the advise, hopefully things just come together but I’m trying for consistency if I can swing it

@@ArchaiaHistoria Haha, with shorter i didn't mean 3 minute videos, anyways from now on i will be anticipating ur uploads aswell, good luck with everything :)

I do plan on covering a lot of the history leading up to Alexander. Soon I’ll be covering topics like: the late Classical history of Magna Graecia and Sicily, Corinthian War, Late history of Persia, etc.

@@ArchaiaHistoria It's all very exciting stuff

Got em

No serious historian claims otherwise my friend its just that until now Philip was mostly occupied with the barbarian kingdoms in the north not with the affairs in greece expect athens,I think the title is okay

As Panos Katrinakhs said, in ancient geographic terms Macedon and Greece and the Peloponnesus are all seperate places that are a part of “Greece” as a whole. Sort of like if you went from say Lorraine to Normandy, you wouldn’t say “I went from France to France” you would say the specific regions

How will he recover? Find out next time!

Episode 06 is written, it just needs to be made. But not after 30 Tyrants Part 4

Sometimes I do upload videos

That's typical of slavoscopian tactics in order to justify their Fabricated historical lies and propaganda. By trying to differentiate between Greeks and Macedonians when in fact they wereall Hellenes(Greeks).

I bet all my money that you are from Banana 🍌 Republic and you never learned how to read!

@Nom Anor Because they didn't that's why. When your ancestors were probably screeching and trying to find caves, the Greeks had scientists and philosophers and get this: historians. With real, factual evidence (Skopia doesn't have those even today) and they would all conclude that Macedonia was in fact Greek. There is no need for historical revisionism, but even if you didn't take this into account, you couldn't prove in a million years that Macedonia wasn't a part of the Hellenic world. The Greeks didn't call them foreigners, only those with political interests did (the kind of politics that goes on today did evolve from the Greek democracy after all). So the people that had conflicting political interests with the Macedonians would even argue that they weren't even Greek at all (at the time Greek meant civilised in the Greek world). But that wasn't based on facts. The facts are that their language was a dialect of Greek, their culture was pretty much the same as the rest of the Greeks, they participated in the Olympic games, which were only for Greeks, most of them had Greek names that even a modern Greek can understand (however as in any Greek state there were some regional names) and in all the official recordings that we have from the Macedonians, written in Attic, the Greek lingua franca, they themselves considered themselves to be Greek. And fun fact: they still do. Strabo, one of the most well-known ancient Greek historians, said: ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ. Which means: So, Macedonia too, is Greece.

I didn't like to point out religions have no connection to race. Don't stupidly throw around racist as a word, it's idiotic these days.

@Nom Anor The Greeks considered almost everyone that did not behave like them as barbarians at the beginning. You also have to look at the politics of the Greek States. Macedonia worked in a completely different way than the rest of the Greek States. You must consider that accepting a powerful state like Macedonia to mess with the balance of power in Greece was not in the interest of the Greek States.

He did march into and conquered Greece. He was Greek indeed though and Macedonia is too. I don't get what that other guy means to say with modern orthodox Greeks. He is probably butthurt about something weirdly absurd that only he can find important for some reason.

@@georgios_5342 thats so sad... Can we name the place north of Saloniki south vardar so that they will know what it feels like?

You know what is federation ? It is like you are famed that all Greeks were united ! And the identical ramparting came like in Ancient time! Macedonian are separated by new historical happenings ! You asked for it and you have got it ! From 1977/78 you have been self flatered that Macedonia was Greece ! Ha ha ha This is now our pay back !

Greeks and slavoskopians are not the same. But Greeks and Macedonians are the same. Maybe yugoslavian clown you can tell us what Macedonian is Not Greek!!

Greeks DEFINITELY the same with Makedonians, totally different from North Macedonia though. Greeks are just Greeks and North Macedonia a mix of Albanians, Turks and Bulgarians, slavic origin I better say. Greeks are Greeks for 2700 years!

MAKEDONIJA EXIST 25 CENTURIES from FILIP KING ON MAKEDONIJA. Oto german make Greece before 190 years.

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It is called Hellas for 2700 years now. Greco, Γραικός we were called by the Romans and it means, the old ones in Greek, or because of our origins. Grecos was the son of Zeus and Pandora. Yunan from Ίωνες we've been called to our Eastern borders. You have to understand that Greece 🇬🇷 was a vast country who occupied many others all these people gave us different names but for the local population it's Hellas for thousands of years now

@Kaly Let us compare to today. There are many many countries with English written coins, are these countries all English? Also I am Macedonian but I communicate using the English language. I prefer the Economic structure of the UK compared to Macedonia. Thus If I go to Macedonia and Implement Similar Micro/macro economics and then mint coins to allow trade with a Wealthy nation to start commerce Is Macedonia the UK? The truth is no one knows 100% But what I do know is that Macedonia was 700km away and if one was to walk the distance as that was how the majority of transport was it was over 15 days away on foot if one travels at 5km an hour for 8 hours a day... THAT SIR IS ANOTHER WORLD AWAY,..... another country you could say, and as you Athenians loved to call us.... BARBARIANS. SO please when one visits an area and brings back ideas It doesn't mean they are now this new country. Athens had good ideas I will give them that just like people gained a lot from China... is the whole world China. Please Greece today stole Macedonia Under the Treaty of Bucharest. That we do know. Good Day.

@@potatopack " Greece didn't exist as aname back then" *Ἑλλάς* Nom. - ἡ Ἑλλᾰ́ς Gen. - τῆς Ἑλλᾰ́δος Dat. - τῇ Ἑλλᾰ́δῐ Acc. - τὴν Ἑλλᾰ́δᾰ Voc. - Ἑλλᾰ́ς The word did exist!!! For fucks sake, why do you and your people keep saying that? Strabo, 7.9: "Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece[..]" (..έστι μεν ουν Ελλάς και η Μακεδονίαν[...]) Greek was not a foreign language to Macedonia. according to most linguists and philologists, the Macedonians spoke a unique doric variant from Northwestern Greek stock. The Pella Curse Tablet substantiates this view. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella_curse_tablet The names like Philippos, Alexandros, Antigonos, Demetrios, Kassandros etc. are all Greek. The toponyms such as Aigai, Dion, Argos Orestis, Herakleia Lynkestis, Pella were all Greek. Military terms such as Ile, Taxeis, Strategos, Phalanx, Hypaspistai, Pezhetairoi, Argyraspides, Somatophylakes, Hetairoi, Thorakitai, Machairophoroi, Prodromoi, Toxotai, yadayadayada were all Greek. Your analogy with english coinage is embarissing... "Please Greece today stole Macedonia" There has been a recorded residence of Greeks in the region of Macedonia since Antiquity and even before the arrival of pontic refugees, the Greeks were the predominant population in the south (real Macedonia), even rebelling against the Ottomans in 1821. Greece stole nothing. Your people in those times were always recorded as "Bulgarians" in population censuses. Emmanouel Pappas (Filiki Etaireia) referred to himself in 1821 as "Leader and Defender of Macedonia", while your ancestors roamed around identifying as Bulgarians. "Athenians loved to call us.... BARBARIANS" The Athenians called everybody Barbarians since they were arrogant snobs. The Aetolians and other speakers of the Aeolian dialect were labeled as barbaric. The Macedonians identified as Greeks. "Now that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know" ~ Herodotus V, 22, 1 [Don Kagan, Sterling professor of Classics and ancient Greek History, Yale University] "We know the ancient Macedonians were fundamentally Greeks, that is to say they were Greek speakers and ethnically they were Greeks" Eugene Borza, Historian, Penn University, "Macedonian Redux", p.260 "...Modern Slavs, both from the Former Yug. Rep. of Macedonia and Bulgarians cannot establish a link with antiquity, in contrast with the Greeks. The Slavs entered the Balkans ten centuries after the demise of the Ancient Kingdom of Alexander. Only the most radical nationalists Slavic emigrants of the US, Canada and Australia even attempt to establish connection with antiquity..."

@@enyalios316 Honestly keep creating these stories. EVERY MACEDONIAN IN THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA..... Tito managed to brain wash everyone? Good story kiddo, Secondly We are bulgarian..... Um didn't you say we came from the north east in 6th century the story changes.. get a freaking brain. Go read any literature before the age of the internet when the greeks created a campaign to fabricate the world to manipulate and change history to support the theft of Aegean Macedonia due to the treaty of Bucharest. When you twats uncovered the tomb of Phillip in the 1970s you guys went OMG we need to claim this. Macedonia knows Phillip is Macedonian not greek. The way he was buried is the way Macedonians bury their dead. The greeks bury their dead in their method. Now Stop making up stories and quoting text from fabricated sources to support the greek propaganda train. Go look at all the history of Aegean Macedonia... the names were all renamed hellenised to be greek. They had old Macedonian names. if anyone is reading this, this is another example of how Greece has tried to eradicate all traces of Macedonian history and culture from the Aegean Macedonia area. GO do some research. Its actually fun to see what you uncover and realise the bullshit the greeks have sold to the world and makes us all mugs, except the Macedonians. Enjoy your souvlaki and have a calamari from me

​@@potatopack I don't care if you truly think I am lying. "EVERY MACEDONIAN IN THE WHOLE WORL.... blablabla" "Tito managed to brain blablabla" "Go read any literature befo.(..) blablabla" How about I quote some men who know the literature... since I obviously do not... "Today's members of FYROM [Rep. of Macedonia] speak a Slavic language codified only after 1944. They are descended from people who were called, and at times called themselves, Serbs or Bulgarians" [Keith Brown, 'The Past in Question, Modern Macedonia and the Uncertainty of a Nation, (2003) Princeton University Press, p.2] "Macedonia is a Greek speaking Kingdom in northern Greece." [Robin Lane Fox, Oxford University] [Eugene Borza, Pennsylvania State University, Macedonia Redux] "Modern Slavs, both Macedonian and Bulgarian, cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries AFTER the demise of the ancient Macedonian Kingdom" "It should be noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the ancient Macedonians of Alexander the Great who were related to other Greek [Hellenic] tribes..........and the so-called modern "Macedonians " of today [of the Rep. of Macedonia - FYROM] who are of Slavic origin and related to the Bulgarians" [David H Levinson, Anthropologist, 'Encyclopaedia of World Cultures', p. 239] Herodotus states, "Now that these descendants of Perdiccas (Macedonians) are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know" Jonathan M. Hall, “Classical Archaeology and the Ancient Historian”, University of Chicago, 2014 “The claim on the part of the Slavic Republic to the name Macedonia and to its inhabitants' descent from the ancient Macedonians represents, at best, a THEFT of Greek national property, heritage, and identity, and, at worst, a thinly veiled irredentist aspiration to the Greek territory the Slavs themselves termed as 'Aegean Macedonia'...” Dr David Gordon Mitten, Dr James Loeb, Professors of Classical Art and Archaeology, Harvard University "...We do not understand how the modern inhabitants of ancient PAEONIA ( the region SlavoMacedonia is settled ), who speak Slavic - a language and people introduced into the Balkans about a millennium after the death of Alexander - can claim him as their national hero. Alexander the Great was thoroughly and indisputably Greek..." [Ernst Badian, Emeritus Professor of History, Harvard University] "We have now become accustomed to regarding the ancient Macedonians as NORTHERN GREEKS." "[...] you passed a decree calling on me to make common cause with the rest of the Greeks against him" ~ Philipp II. of Macedon counts himself among the rest of the Greeks (Dem. 12 6) "Cnaeus Octavius, who was also present, translated the address into Greek" (Liv. 45 29) when Paullus Macedonicus addressed the Macedonians, he had Cnaeus Octavius translate his speech into Greek for them. Some more??? "you guys went OMG we need to claim this" "I am the Leader and defender of Macedonia" ~ Emmanouel Pappas (Filiki Etaireia) Ever heard of the "Makedonomachoi"? This is the seal of the Greek Macedonian Committee from 1904 depicting Alexander the Great and Basileos the Bulgar Slayer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Seal_of_the_Greek-Macedonian_Committee.jpg "They had old Macedonian names" Oh yeah... old Macedonian names such as Solun and Vodena instead of Thessaloniki and Edessa, the way how the real Macedonians called those places. Yeah... I didn't know that the name Thessaloniki DID NOT derive from Θεσσᾰλός (Thessalos) = Thessalian, and from νῑ́κη (niki) =victory.. Would you please tell me the "real" bulgaro-monkeydonian meaning of the place... Oh and could you please correct all the other "real macedonian" meanings of these macedonian words??? Μακεδόνες (Macedonians), (μᾰκεδνός, makednos = tall, ) "highlanders" in Greek... Alexandros (αλεξείν, alexein = protect, άνδρος (andros) = man, "protector of men") - Demetrios (masculine form of Δημήτηρ = Demeter/ "Mother Earth") - Seleukos (aeolic- Ζα, Za = very - Λεύκος, Leukos = white) - Antigonos (αντί, anti = against, γόνος, gonos = offspring) - Antiochos (αντί, anti = against, έχω, ekho = grasp) Military words: Argyraspides (Άργυρος/Argyros = silver, Ασπίς/Aspis = shield), Pezhetairoi (πεζός/pezos = "on foot", ἑταῖροι/hetairoi = companions) Hypaspists (υπό/hypo = beneath, Ασπίς/Aspis = Shield) Prodromoi (Πρόδρομος = forerunner) You haven't addressed any of my points yet. You are just bitching about the evil evil Greeks and how I am just lying. You are the typical "out of arguments" kinda guy. Go cry you brave Macedonian

Oh and btw. The macedonian burial ceremonies stem from the archaic/mycenean Greek period where the Greeks buried their dead in burial mounds (toloi). The 192 people who were killed at Marathon were also buried in a burial mound. The method just came out of trend in the south.

MAKEDONIJA ---- 25 CENTURIES IN SOUTH EVROPA ! ! ! ! !